Destiny 3 Begins Trending on Twitter As Fans Are Fed Up with Current Game

If you grind hard in a live service game, it will be for not, because it is a live service game.

It's not forever and Destiny it starting to look old.

the same people will say "this is just overpriced DLC" when destiny 3 drops

From the outside looking in, Destiny 2 has been a never-ending cycle of disappointment for years. All you ever see is people complaining about how Bungie's ruined this, ruined that, broken this, broken that.

As someone who stopped playing Destiny 2 before it went free-to-play, nothing I hear about the game has ever tempted me to go back. Honestly just sounds like a perpetual nightmare.

The mere fact that the negative reaction is a call for a sequel as opposed to people leaving the game shows why Sony purchased them. Bungie is not perfection but they are always successful.

I don't even want a destiny 3, I would rather them make a game based of a new IP or just help playstation with their live service projects.

Destiny 2 also isn't a great place for new players, there's so much lore that new players are missing out on, I've recently started playing again and there's so many references to characters and events that I have no knowledge about.

I don't suppose it's on the table that they make something else? They divorced Microsoft because they didn't want to make Halo games forever but they will make Destiny forever?

A Destiny 3 would be irrelevant without abandoning old gen and having a new engine, something Bungie refuses to do, they've been band aiding a Halo Reach engine since 2014!
The game has been a disaster since it went "free 2 play" (with full price expansions every year), Witch Queen was a nice comeback but they went right back to all of the crap right after it. The reality is that they can pump out one big AAA level expansion every 2 years or so and everything else is usually reskins and filler that grind you for engagement. I don't deny their success, I just personally don't find it fun anymore.

I was intrigued when it went free (or came to PS+, I forget which came first) so I played through the base story and... it was a Bungie shooter. For some, that's enough. But for the life of me I could not figure out the hype.

I've played loads of ARPGs (D3 alone I have prolly north of 5-600 hours easy, having bought it on 4 platforms), all the Borderlands games multiple times, both Division games for multiple days worth of play time (especially Div 2)... I GET grind and replaying content.

But holy hell. There was nothing, and I mean nothing, I found special about Destiny 2. At all. Even in a genre I tend to turn my brain off for, Destiny just felt like it was written by tossing darts at a board of words chosen at random. I couldn't wrap my head around a single reason to do a damn thing once the dust settled.

The fact some people only play Destiny just boggles my damn mind. ESPECIALLY when Bungie has shown their ass multiple times with tweaks and policies and gameplay changes. Like holy hell, people. You're in an abusive relationship. Leave.

Just checked steam and the fact its high in the charts is why there will eventually be a sequel 😒

100,000 players playing 35 minutes ago and that's just on one platform.

And for comparison call of duty MW2 had 101,000 so yeah destiny 2 is still mega popular.

@CieloAzure the exception being Fortnite. It was the most downloaded free-to-play game in the EU, US and Canada on both the PS4 and PS5 systems in March, despite being in its sixth year since release.

@UltimateOtaku91 the model of gating story behind seasons really ruined it all for me. Sure if you stick around and play every single season then it’s probably a great game, but for everyone else the story is absolute nonsense. It’s because if this that I have zero faith in them helping Sony with other live service games. If they would sell all the story bits of Destiny and Destiny 2 piecemeal and let me play all of them when I want then I’d probably get back into the series.

I played Destiny 2 for a few months after release and then quit.

After it went F2P, I hopped back in for a very short time but deleted it soon after.

I’m just not a fan of what’s required to keep up with what’s actually happening in it, and now, things have been removed and if you haven’t followed it closely you will be lost.

I prefer they soft reboot Destiny 3.

Yea people get to hung up on one of the top 5 live service games. Just move on and play something else if you don't like what Bungie is putting out.

I did Final Fantasy XIV for 18 months. I did Destiny 1 & 2 as well as Division 1 & 2. I lost interest. I moved on. I enjoyed them, but not infinitely. That’s why I prefer the single player games. Play through and done.

Perhaps someday but I doubt it will happen any time soon. Destiny 2 reminds me of how SF5 was during its life cycle. People talked trash about that game from the beta until now and yet they played anyway. That's how many of these long term service games. The community hates them...but then continue to play them. 😄

Destiny has always struggled to know quite what it is- whether it’s a FPS or an MMO first and foremost, whether it’s about the story or the gear or the combat… and at this point, I don’t think they’ll ever find it.
Personally, i’m just content with replaying Destiny 1 and appreciating it for what it was, rather than seeing what kind of reckless experiment they think will turn it into what they want it to be. If Destiny 3 does become real, I just hope they’re reckless enough to make something interesting like they did the first time round.

Personally i think Destiny is a lot like Halo at the moment, decent games that gamers aren’t leaving better games to play Halo and Destiny. Not sure this franchise ever had a huge following for long to begin with. I would like to see Bungie start a new IP and let Destiny have some time off.

Many believe that the developer’s decision to keep iterating on a game that’s now over five years old is a mistake, and they’re eager for the team to wipe the slate clean and start over.

Destiny fans: WE’RE FED UP, THIS GAME IS 5 YEARS OLD!!! WE NEED A NEW ONE.

GTA developers who been dishing out GTA Online for 10 YEARS NOW since PS3

GTA Online fans: this game is fun.

As far as I know, this is just a "vocal minority" thing.

Bungie is charging too much for too little content. People are tired of paying over $100 each year and getting no new strikes, new crucible maps, or new gambit maps, and just 6 to 8-story missions with the story going nowhere and ending abruptly. Each season is the exact same leveling up the vendor and repeating the same old content to get reskinned weapons and armor. Even enemies are often just reskinned palette swaps with a few extra spikes or appendages. The game has become a neverending hamster wheel where you keep grinding the same old content. I just finished my pinnacle grind and it was atrocious. I thought about masterworking Leviathan's Breath but then saw that I needed 1,500 kills! 1500 kills with a bow with just 10 ammo! I immediately dropped the game. The gameplay is AMAZING but the content and gameplay loop are terrible.

I gave it about 3 hours (for the first time) last month and must say I was confused too much. They still wanted something from me, but without any major reason. Started with power 1600 and finished with 1612, so with not even one percent powering up. I was shooting down some tank again and again and again until I realised it has endless respawn. The only thing I liked was graphics and design of station (until it started to be repetitive).

Bungie would take everybody's breath out if they release Destiny singleplayer game, because world itself was quite amazing and if they make solid story it could be perfect game.

But isn't this just the nature of a live service game.
Just like franchises. Some games in the series are amazing and some are misses.

The fact remains they've made a game which has lasted for over the 5 years, they have learnt alot and the gameplay has been perfected.

But its just like any over arching story, it gets complicated and its locked alot of us out, if we didn't jump on at the beginning and stay with it.

But thats a learning curve and one where Sonys other first party teams could help them out.

They have the gameplay nailed down but story could do with help.

I never understood why everyone called Bungie live service masters. They are masters of First Person Shooters, there is no doubt, along with ID. But they are truly awful at live service and even sunset content after you have purchased it. Even the pvp in Destiny is rubbish. They are more a study case of what NOT to do in a live service game. They are really bad at it. I hope the next game is not live service and they stick to what they are good at

@Green-Bandit just to highlight Destiny 2 has an average 24hr peak of 107,964 and came out 6 years ago vs Halo at 5,322 as of today. It's the second most downloaded Free to play game in the world after Fortnite and Destiny 2 is ranked #2 out of 138 tracked MMOs in terms of aggregate server and player population. I do not play Destiny but there is zero doubt of its success and longevity over Halo ect. Which is why Sony purchased them to begin with. Live service successes are few and fair.

The gamers on twitter might remember saying the same thing about the original. When Destiny 2 launched it was a breath of fresh air because they stripped out all the bloat; now its buried under its own systems again.

Worse is the new player experience. You can't just play through every story campaign in order from a menu because Bungle vaulted them all. There are no attempts at onboarding, No explanation of terminology or lore. 'Jump into a weekly nightfall playlist' isn't very helpful. Even something which should be simple like transmog is too over the top. Diablo 3 and Horizon get it so right!

I was gifted a code for the new expansion so I thought I’d give it a go after not really playing since Destiny 1. I’m enjoying it - there’s fun to be had for sure. But the story is poorly acted nonsense for the most part, and it’s ridiculously unfriendly to new users. Also visually it’s really showing it’s age. When I heard the new expansion was set in a neon lit city I thought it sounded cool but it looks so dull and the citizens are just low detail holograms for some arbitrary and barely plausible reason. Despite all that I’m finding it enjoyable and I’ll probably play for the rest of the season, but have to admit I’d definitely be up for a sequel that simplifies the story and ups the production values.

Sentiment is the worst of human feelings. It stops progress and makes the past look like it was flawless. Destiny 3 should not carry anything from Destiny 2.

The whole bungie purchase by Sony still seems terrible value to me.

Compare that to insomniac which seemed like a bargain.

@BeerIsAwesome
Hahaha. Brilliant. So true.

@BeerIsAwesome truer words haven't been spoken.

“ However, some members did express concern about all of their hard work grinding for guns over the past few years being for nought”

I remember I had Destiny one. First reset I list everything and had to start again. Promptly deleted it and decided live service games definitely weren’t for me.

Have since heard they even “vault” oaid for content.

Yeah, people who like these types of games are weird to me. They’ve already set their standards of what they are happy to accept though, so complaining about progress being lost does seem redundant at this point.

It's normal for people to have complaints about live services cause they are designed to be grindy and unfun. So, there is always an attrition war between players wanting a more fun experience and devs wanting to extend engagement metrics.
I wouldn't read too much into it. WoW has been under fire for many years and in a battle lock with It's userbase often asking for a WoW2 and Microsoft is buying that.

This is normal stuff. Live services can't please everyone and often illicit emotional reactions due to how invested players are. Which is why they have a bad rep, but many can't break free due to that sunk cost.

Working on a live service game is the only thing I can imagine being worse than playing one. Years upon years of post-launch support tweaking and adding stuff to the exact same pile of code just to keep a product profitable, unable to move on to anything that's creative or stimulating in the slightest.

@Arthur_Morgan yeah i mean Halo as a franchise at the moment is struggling hard. But Peak Halo was a way bigger franchise than Destiny was my point and it just fell out of flavor. Destiny is peaking now cause of the new DLC, looks like the average player count over the last 12 months was around 55-60K which is a touch stronger than i thought, but still not crazy high. Not sure why people are into it with how bad it’s been written and losses content for new players to come into. My point was simply those two franchises while not small at all outside of Infinite, could go back to the drawing board and take a break. Try something new and see if more new players would come in. Sony bought Bungie to have them help with the over 10 games they have in development that are online and service based games. Was a smart pickup as Sony has shown very little talent in online gaming over the last 10 years. I hope this works out and we see some great Shooters and multiplayer games on PS.

One reason they need Destiny 3 is that the story for D2 has gotten so unwieldy and difficult to follow even for veterans let alone new players. I think it needs a reset with a new storyline and not make the mistakes D2 made with its complex lore.

We really need a soft reboot of the franchise with Destiny 3. I’ve bought, played, and lost every dlc since launch. I have no clue what is going on lore wise. They keep name dropping terrible sounding character name that adds little to nothing to the story… But I keep playing cause a friend is a massive destiny nut and it the only game that makes him happy and helps with his depression. I’m also his only friend who willing to play it.

I recently jumped back in after getting all the expansions on sale for £50 and honestly i'm loving it and i'm remembering why i played it so hard during the Forsaken era. Yes it has huge issues but the gunplay is the best out there and the game is just insanely fun.

People clamoring for a Destiny 3 seem to have forgotten that there was a Destiny 1, and jumping to a new game is how we got here in the first place. Destiny 3 would just be the same terrible design and you would end up paying $70 for it. I don't think the problem is Destiny 2, the problem is Bungie. Reboot Bungie.

Why exactly do destiny 3 need to happen? It makes no sense. Why ditch project with thousands of men hours used to build it that has content beyond horizon for a new game that eventually will do exactly the same but with much less content and features?

Believe it or not they shouldve made destiny 3 long time ago... when they first got rid of red war told me other wise just because the old mmaps running on the background is too much for their servers to handle the new content.. but i know they wont make another destiny game because when they make their last dlc for d2 they will stop making new content.. so if they will stop making new content heres where what i think would be best... they can use the timeline in their advantage so we can play they old content we loved and well hated so all the new lights can enjoy what we did when the game released...but that just me

Destiny II is the game I delete to free up space on my PS5 that's it!

I don't think Destiny 3 is needed. The game is already a mess as it is and making a Destiny 3 would only repeat the same problems Destiny 1 and 2 already went through.

The best thing is to scrap the 2 out of D2 name and fix the timeline. Make it so that us, the players, can choose what part of the story we want to be in and vault the rest. As we progress further, the part behind joins the vault unless we move the timeline back again (forward parts would be in the vault too until we move forward). It should be one big long game that players should be able to return back to the past and play all content owned and be able to replay the story properly.

I know doing something like that could cause issues with multiplayer stuff but multiplayer stuff could be done in the most up to date part of the timeline. It would just give players the ability to play all the content they paid for and get to replay the game as many times as we want. Perhaps add a recap of the story based on players progress for anyone that hasn't played in say a month.

The game is terrible for new players and returning ones. Fix that and there's no need for a Destiny 3.

Been playing since the D1 alpha.

The community can complain about scrapping the game and starting fresh, but nobody was happy about losing all their favorite gear & loot when the jump to destiny 2 happened.

At the same time, you can only chase the same damn weapons X amount of times before it becomes boring. Bungie sunsets and takes gear away, only to give it back and make players grind for it all over again several months, a year or so later, with an updated perk list.

Bungie tried fixed perks on weapons when Destiny 2 first launched, and that went over horribly with the community.

Add in the fact that the seasonal activities are merely repackaged events that generally use the same basic mechanics.

Also the fact that the actually multiplayer PvP mode, hasn't seen any significant changes or new maps in years. It's just a complete mess.

There really is no easy fix for the game, and i doubt Bungie is keep on getting away from the seasonal model.

@Green-Bandit The only reason Destiny was successful, was because of how hyped they were as a company with the success of Halo. Sony fans had to deal for years with talk about how good Halo was and never got to play it. So when Bungie left MS to make Destiny everyone jumped on to give it a try.

Destiny at it's core is just a reskinned Halo. The gunplay is exactly the same. Bungie took everything they were experimenting with on a gameplay level (as far as movements, and power ups, etc) in halo 3 and refined it. Breaking it up into 3 different character classes, etc. and adding on an additional layer of loot RPG by having weapons roll with random perks.

They also went super hard on the co-op aspect of the game with raids and dungeons.

@kabal82 i agree and i played Destiny when it came out and just never really got into it, i wanted to tho. But when Destiny 2 came out i just sat back and watched it be mediocre and never cared to join in. Don’t feel like i am missing much, i just hope bungie takes their team somewhere else and better yet, make it fun, understandable and accessible. As a Hardcore 360 fan i loved Halo 3 and thought it to be Bungie’s best work ever. These day’s Halo is struggling to hard for me to give it much time after playing it a lot at launch, only to find out new maps where a year away. My eyes are set on what Naughty Dog is going to do with the Last of us multiplayer. I so want that to be good. Thanks for the reply, you were spot on.

@Mitsui I wouldn't call them entitled. If you bought all the expansions half the stuff has been legit deleted from the game. Not "well make a private server" or that. It simply does not exist anymore. While games like WoW have done this over the decades, D2 basically licked its chops at the first chance to purge content out of its relatively young (at the time) game. It was unprecedented in MMOy games to see stuff purged so fast.

@TooManyBrownies: If someone has 100+ hours on a game, I'd say they like it enough. When I play something as extensively I also notice the tiniest things that start to bother me. I think it comes with the territory and is just a testament to how much I love the game. Why else would I go so deep into it? Of course with that comes a certain passion and some people just can't control it and start bothering other people^^

At least that's how I see it..
edit: I might wanna clarify that I only played Destiny 2 for about 40 minutes. It's an outsiders perspective for me. I tried almost all the major MMOs but so far none grabbed me the way I like it

Unpopular opinion but love service is not the future and people are already sick of it, Destinys constant loot, level and then have it reset in a seasons time is pointless and gets to a point where it's a chore god knows why Sony is trying to push it so hard (other than the vast money they can milk from it )

@TooManyBrownies: Yeah, for me the mentioned reasons sound like excuses, so I didn't mention them:
-lack of other games, I mean seriously? All the time they spend complaining could be used searching for the next game on steam or wherever, that grabs 'em.
-addiction in gaming is probably something I'll never fully understand. For me it sounds like an excuse for weak minded people.

As for the other stuff it's just like I said my outsiders perspective and my subjective opinion. I just would never continue to play something that stops being fun for me. I have never cracked even the 1000 hour mark on any of my favorite games, but they are all offline experiences, where I'd have to play them 10+ times for that. Maybe in 20 years some games will be at that point for me xD

@Marquez
I love the gameplay too. Have been playing since D1. Got 1199 hours in D1 and 3256 hours in D2. (Time wasted on Destiny.com lol). I love the performance, shooting, and abilities. I just hate what Bungie has done to the game. They slowly turned the game into a hamster wheel and a full time job where you are never done and always have to keep playing to keep up with others. I also hated when they vaulted content like the Red War campaign which I liked very much. The 1AU mission was my favorite with an amazing soundtrack. How can they take away content that I paid for?? That is unfair even if it is legal.

Since Lightfall I was playing for 5 to 7 hours daily. Finally, after reaching max pinnacle cap I started feeling bad about how much time I wasted on arbitrary achievements in a videogame. I felt trapped and taken advantage of. Not to mention the toxic racist people on lfg add to the stress since English is not my native language. Then I saw a video by NovemberHotel on YouTube discussing how the game was designed like a job with tasks and deadlines like in real life to keep you busy forever. I decided to drop the game cold turkey after that. Have been playing the Cold Steel series stress-free since then with no pressure to keep up, completing dailies/weeklies, and finding lfg fireteams to complete raid/grandmasters. Peace at last.

I fell out of Destiny 2 when the previous entrees red war, warmind, curse of osiris, etc were removed. Those were the BEST year of destiny 2 in my opinion.

I stopped playing after vanilla destiny 2 was reworked to use rng gear drops and all my current gear was made useless, won't play anything by this company again.

What good they possibly add to destiny 3 to make it a newer experience? This game has been going for awhile now and they've updated it to the roof