One of this week's biggest news stories centred around Sony's plans to reportedly release a new PlayStation handheld. It sounds exciting when you write it down like that, but expectations were very quicky adjusted upon the realisation that this device would — again, reportedly — be dedicated to PS5 Remote Play.
Naturally, we wanted to harvest your opinions on the subject, and so we published a Talking Point, inviting you lot to share your thoughts on a potential Remote Play system. Our included poll asked a simple question: "Would you be interested in a PS5 Remote Play handheld from Sony?"
The results were actually quite split, but the majority clearly aren't sold on a portable machine that's built around Remote Play. 28% of users said they "don't really see the point", and 22% said they simply "couldn't care less". A further 21% said they'd need "a lot more info" before making a decision. Over 2,300 votes were registered.
Interestingly, in our second poll, only 23% of readers said they use Remote Play on a regular basis. 38% said they've tried it "once or twice", and another 38% admitted they've never used it.
These results obviously beg the question: is there even a worthwhile market for a Remote Play handheld from Sony? Especially when so many devices are already supported? As we said in our aforementioned Talking Point, we imagine that this rumoured system would target the PS5's hardcore audience as another fairly expensive accessory.
So, where do you stand on all of this? Make sure you've got a high speed internet connection in the comments section below.
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can the overall media and youtubers just wait on acting as if this thing is confirmed untill it ACTUALLY is confirmed? cause last time i checked none of this is official .
neither is the ps5 pro.
I am impressed how cyclical this is.
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Makes sense. Personally, I’d love a dedicated remote play device if it had the right control scheme and the right price. A replacement for the phone or tablet/Bluetooth controller combo would be nice as those can be finicky and uncomfortable in some situations. I probably wouldn’t pay more than say $120 max and it would have to be really good at that price. I use remote play almost daily, but I don’t know a single other person in real life that uses it, so yeah. Most people would probably have little to no reason to buy one.
PS ability to read the room has been mad off. Where are the 1st party games!
(Sets user engagement attempts to ludicrous speed)
I think a dedicated remote play device makes it workable, selling in tandom with the PS5. Yes you can currently play on phones, but you can’t play any game properly with those controls. You need a controller and syncing a PS controller to a phone is a hassle.
I think they’ve seen what Backbone is doing and wants some of that market. Clearly they see the future of games on PS5 only so why not be able to play those anywhere.
Not surprised at all by the response, but I do think there's a niche for this, and I'm not overly surprised it's in the pipeline.
I think when you look at it more as an accessory, like a Pulse 3D headset or the DualSense Edge, it makes more sense.
If this thing is real, I’m sure it’s meant to helo with their Japanese market, we’re mobility is extremely important and high speed internet a lot more ubiquitous.
I mentioned this in the other thread but I would be interested in this if it’s not a single purpose device. If it’s an android tablet (with market, browser, etc) that happens to come with a remote app, I might be interested, so long the price is right and the specs good enough.
Tried Remote Play once again after quite a few years after the rumors surfaced. Still runs like absolute garbage with my internet
If others have the same problem I'm not surprised that not many are interested in it. Also because you can use remote play on many devices already anyway
I use remote play on my Steam Deck one in awhile, it's pretty good, I wouldn't buy a device designed for it exclusively though.
If this device doesn't also enable cloud playing, it will be in trouble.
@jdv95 that would make sense, so no.
I think the 29% of people who are on board with this Remote Play only device will change their tune when Sony announces the price. I'm guessing it's going to be around $300 if it's real.
I mean, even if this thing was $100 I still wouldn't buy it. I've used remote play on my phone and Steam Deck and it still sucks every time. Crackling audio, dropped frames, and input delay all make the experience just awful, and that's with a 100+ mbps connection.
Ok. First. Big middle finger to Sony on anything handheld related for the foreseeable future. They gave us PSV early adopters the same treatment after only a year and a half on the market.
Second. There's zero reason to have this device. 99% of the people that would use remote play (if not all) have a smart phone. Pair your controller to it, download the app, and boom. Remote play on the cheap.
@Shstrick Oh, I wouldn't be surprised if this cost WAAAAAY more that $120. If the Dualsense Edge is going for $200 then this will easily cost around the $300–$400 mark.
@B_Lindz I agree. I would hope that it would be more affordable, but I really doubt it. I’ll likely be sticking with my current setup for streaming 🥲
A strictly “remote play” device, basically a Wii U Gamepad, is as DOA as the Wii U, and deservedly so. Make something that also streams without the need to own a PS5 then you have a Japan market at least. Remote play is such a 1 trick pony it would basically have to be included with the PS5 at no extra cost. Which again, see Wii U’s utter miserable failure.
But a PS5 tablet with everything the PSP and Vita had EXCEPT it’s own games I could maybe get behind.
As a reminder to you older gamers, this isn’t for you, it’s for teens and 20 somethings who don’t even own a tv and do all of their gaming on Switch, Steamdeck, laptops and PC monitors who want to play PS games but can’t.
I mean, it sort of feels like Sony doesn’t actually know what their fanbase wants currently. PSVR2 came out at a goofy time, for instance, when inflation’s at a high, and with little fanfare or marketing. While stock shortages are diminishing, there’s still a sizable population still stuck on previous gen consoles, and there’s rumors of PS5 pro next year. There was even a rumor that PS6 is closer than anyone expects. It’s baffling. A remote play device is like saying “the WiiU gamepad… clearly, the success of that needs to be followed up.” I’m not diminishing the WiiU for what it was, but for how people reacted to it. It was met with confusion and, as a result, low sales.
The fanbase wants a clear and concise plan for where this generation is going with the basic PS5 hardware. There needs to be more communication on games that feel “next generation” and the PS5 generation needs to split from PS4 in earnest, so that the console can prove itself without all these other bells and whistles.
Soon rather just buy another DualSense or two in different colors as it would obviously get more guaranteed usage. A little off topic, got no need for a remote handheld though. Highly recommended the official charging dock by the way, DualSense never runs out of charge this way (dock requires two DualSense to never run out of charge) and no messing around with charging wires
If they enable Native Play it'll sell like hotcakes otherwise why bother when Switch and Steam Deck exist?
I liked the Vita, and the Switch OLED is great. Streaming only just isn't something I'd be interested in.
@Uncharted2007 Agreed. Your 99% of people guess is probably more accurate than PushSquare saying 29% want this. What this poll is actually saying is that 29% of PushSquare viewers want this which is a TINY margin of PlayStation fans that keep up with gaming and tech news. I would wager that the VAST majority of PS players that have a PS4 or PS5 don't even know what Remote Play is.
Let me give an example of how much of an echo chamber PushSquare/NintendoLife is. I was chatting with a pretty large group of friends, all of them gamers. I kid you not, not one of them had even heard of the game Hades. Not one. These were all people who own consoles or PCs and game daily, if not weekly. This is what Sony is up against, most people, including gamers, do not keep up with gaming and tech news. Selling a niche product like this is bound to fail.
@Wheatly “know that was a major success”
You left out an “n’t” after the was. But yeah, sounds like a Wii U Gamepad to me, except Sony wouldn’t be so stupid as to limit it to 8’. I swear Nintendo totally screwed up not letting that work over Wi-Fi. Even if it was limited to in home Wi-Fi, but the 8’ made it a corded controller without the cord, but at 8’ it was nearly useless for anyone in a typical American 2-3 story house.
Though even if Sony made it work over Wi-Fi still seems stupid to me if it requires a PS5 base station and they don’t just let it work off the cloud. As much as I’m not a cloud gamer Japan seems ok with it judging by the number of Switch cloud games. Could very well be a Japan only device like the VitaTV. I own a Vita TV in the US but it was really made for Japan, it’s a paperweight here.
i think the biggest problem will be the overpriced gadget, its a sony acc product anyway.
@FinneasGH ...but you can't play them anywhere. Remote Play doesn't work everywhere. The majority of the world, including 1st world countries, doesn't have the internet bandwidth to support Remote Play consistently. I have great internet and Remote Play still sucks every time I try to use it.
What's with the negativity on this website? Phil cleared y'all a check?
@Shstrick Same. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if this new device cost more than Nintendo's next console, which is hard for me to wrap my head around from a marketing perspective.
If it supports all/most cloud gaming like geforce now/xcloud and remote play with ps5, I would be interested, unless it is outrageously priced of course
@somnambulance Absolutely agree with everything you said. If people are using the WiiU as a measuring stick for how well this product will sell then it's already a flop. Hahaha!! You hit the nail right on the head when you used the word confusing. That about sums up how I feel about Sony's marketing choices since the PS5 launched, so confused.
@TrillionTears Sony would drop this thing faster than the Vita. It's an objectively awful idea. They can't even get the psvr2 off to a strong start. This has nothing to do with Xbox, either. The derangement from Sony fans is ridiculous. If PlayStation is so perfect, why do so many Sony fans care what the competition is doing? Talk about an insecure mindset.
A fool and his money are soon parted.
Remote play should be an app for devices we already own.
i tried remote play on my vita back in the days. it was lacking L2 - R2 buttons, killed the interest right away.
But a dedicated remote device made for it, then that would fix the problem and make me very interested.
My TV is always on demand, we have a large family.
Could be my Genshin impact hub for sure.
They just need to keep it simple without gimmicks to keep the device cheap.
I don't want a remote only handheld but if that is all it is then it would need to be cheap. I wouldn't say it would be a bad device as there will be people that can benefit from it. Not everyone wants to use their phones, tablet or computer for remote play. And it would be a handy way to game when you're away from home.
Sony are losing out for not having a handheld but they need one that doesn't rely on internet. It should also be able to play all PS4 games and a downgraded PS5 game with loading screens and lower resolutions. It should also have PS+ running from it too. Run the same games that are made for the console to avoid having to split developers. Maybe give it some extra features to make handheld fun.
If remote play is all it is, then that's okay. It could do better but even a remote play is just another option that could be more convenient than having to select apps and connect your controller. It should be designed for gaming unlike the phone which would just heat up too much and then your battery dies. Perhaps an official handheld from Sony can run remote play better than our phones can.
I don't think it would matter if it sells well or not. It should be cheap and easy to make to dip into the handheld gaming. But if it can run games offline like the previous handhelds then I'd expect to see a good push with it.
Personally, I don’t see the point.
1. If I wanted to remote play I can buy a controller to clip my phone into and turn that into a portable console.
2. This is useless at home. I will just move the PS5 to a TV/Monitor in another room if I can’t use the main TV.
3. This sucks for being outside the home. I don’t want to have to turn on my PS5 in my house and connect over the internet which is unreliable in the UK.
Having said all that - This could work for Japan.
1. The Japanese love handhelds.
2. They have much faster internet. They can connect anywhere, even in the tube, and have better connection to their console at home than most of us would have over wifi.
3. They have a lot less space. So gaming in a multi person household is better suited to having your own device.
Surely it depends on the price point. Having a dedicated unit with controllers which you can just turn on to use is a nice option so long as it's affordable. It's not like you are forced to buy it in order to use your PS5.
@B_Lindz PS5 is reminding me of the Xbox One launch or WiiU launch. There’s so much focus on extracurriculars and not enough focus on the actual games, even though the PS5 line-up has been strong so far. It’s a shocking revelation in gaming, but people that buy games simply want strong, complete at release games right now and that’s it. It’s simple.
@somnambulance "not enough focus on the actual games, even though the PS5 line-up has been strong so far."
Do you know, I personally see a massive contradiction in that line. They're literally the opposite of each other, one following the other.
@get2sammyb If this is considered to be an accessory — which, if the reports are accurate, seems to be the case — then this needs to be priced as an accessory. If this thing isn’t lower than $100, then this will be dead on arrival. With a DualSense alone costing $70, adding a screen to it will definitely cost more than that.
The only way they can get away with charging more for it would be adding more functionality to it, like putting Android on it, for one example. The reports don’t mention this, so that’s unlikely.
My guess is that this’ll be somewhere in the $150 - $250 range, and will be purchased by very few people.
I think this disillusionment would be different if Sony wasn't failing on the promise of a new generation and the fan relations. After over 2 years of radio silence except for overpriced peripherals and upgrade fees and pretty much nothing else no road map whatsoever. So yeah, when you hear that another peripheral or accessory or piece of Hardware that Sony is trying to sell you when we don't even have a road map about software aside from, "live service is coming, " not even for the brand newly released PS VR2.
It definitely hits a little different it stinks and people are probably getting tired of it. So it's not surprising that these rumors fall flat.
Revive the Vita.
The allure of a handheld is self containment. I have no interest in a device that is a brick without internet access.
@get2sammyb That's exactly it. At the end of the day, it's just another accessory with no added cost in terms of investments specifically for it. Hence, I don't get why some people get emotional over it.
@bkeswick Perhaps you’re right! The line-up HAS been solid, but it has been a crossgen line-up still with very little road map for what’s ahead. For most consoles cycles, we’d be hitting mid-generation right now when this generation feels as if it’s barely started.
@jdv95 I actually prefer there's preemptive backlash so Sony really thinks hard if this would be a good idea to consider in the future. There's little point in backlash if this potential cloud junk is being manufactured and being ready to ship 🤷
As I said. Even sat within yards remote play can be average. Broadband in UK sucks for the most part. We get Uber fast later this year where I am so maybe.
you would hope sony is smarter than this. if they can find a way to natively run the entire ps4 and ps5 catalogue (with some exceptions when necessary) at 720p/30/60 minimum specs, they will have a winner on their hands. heck, even if it isn't the entire library but a large curated list of the most noteworthy games, that would be acceptable as well. naturally, it will be a digital-only device and i am ok with that so long as our current digital library is supported on the device. a remote play-only device will be dead on arrival. i would guess that less than 5% of the entire sony userbase would be "remotely" interested in this
I remember picking up a PlayStation TV shortly after release during a Black Friday deal for £25 (it now commands a fair bit more) Side-line hardware projects such as these don’t have great consumer demand and seem doomed to fail.
A PS Remote Play device would need to be cheap to succeed. It has to rely on a good network connection to provide a stable, consistent and frustration-free experience. Consumers might buy this device and find it simply does not work satisfactorily with their given setup. If it were cheap, then potential costs involved in upgrading a home network might be offset.
This device needs to be simple and undercut the Backbone, which is a licensed device.
Sony should invest in more talent, more funding for unique and innovative gaming experiences. There should be a focus on quality software support, instead of needless diversification into hardware that isn’t in high demand. Perhaps Sony should focus on software to push VR2, rather than this mooted device?
I would consider buying this if it was integrated into at least some games for the option to have a second screen like the Gamepad…..
The one time I tried remote play was on a mesh 5 ghz network with Ghost of Tsushima. Unfortunately the game was practically unplayable. I’ve had better experience playing Xbox Cloud, Stadia, and Steam Remote Streaming.
@Vacuumator Yes, this reminds me of the PS TV - and I bet it will be just as poorly marketed and end the same way.
If they make a bunch and they bomb, I may buy a couple on clearance. A dedicated device with the full DualSense enhancements would be great. I've used Remote Play from my PS4 to my PS5, from my phone to my PS4 and PS5, and it's pretty solid with my setup (PS5 hard-wired to router, solid wifi, PS4 hard-wired to a mesh hub, phone just on wifi but has network priority).
But it's not for everybody, won't work outside the home nearly as well for most people as Sony will probably imply...and if they plan on making it cellular to work outside the home, expect it to be a worse experience AND pricey AND come from the phone company with a new line contract. Blech. No way.
If they keep it wifi only and the whole thing comes in under $100, I'm buying one day one. I don't think that's what will happen, and even if it does it likely won't sell like crazy.
If this thing is real and as described, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be interested in it. But even if I were to change my mind, I wouldn't pay more than £50 for it.
I sometimes use remote play on the ipad with the dualsense connected by bluetooth. The only advantage of a dedicated device would be if the connection was smoother. Otherwise I cant imagine trying to play on any screen less than 10inches.
Yes, I would be very interested in this. I love my Switch and play mostly in handheld. Remote play on a phone is too cumbersome and wastes battery. Having a dedicated handheld with good controls to remote play PS5 is a great idea.
I'd love a new Sony handheld but remote play is a big fail for me.
My WiFi speed is a max DL of 15mb and a regularly DL at about 9mb. This is nowhere near enough to support remote play.
Maybe in 2026 when my council eventually upgrades to FTP internet...
It's a product with almost no market whatsoever, the few who care about remote play already have at least one device that can do it today.
This is a device (if the rumours are true) that is a dedicated streaming device that also requires the dedicated hardware to run the games and that is bonkers, it's truly the worst version of what cloud gaming's potential can be.
If this could do what Xcloud does and stream any game on a subscription, without needing a PS5, then I could kind of see the point but as is, I think its a dreadful product
@get2sammyb that depends entirely on the price though, if its going to have dualsense features and a decent screen then this thing won't be cheap. Also if it could stream all the available games on PS Plus as well as remote play then it starts to make much more sense
I guess they are trying things like PSVR2
Not sure it will take off that well though.
Must cost millions to develop these things and get them off the ground.
Not sure for Sonys reasoning behind this device, maybe their modern take in Betamax vs VHS.
Wish they would spend the money on giving 4 HDMI 2:1 ports on their 2023 top OLEDS than waste money in this new device.
Then they might become king of the TVs again one day.
I hate remote play in its current state. When using my phone to remote play everything is fine until I want to use my phone for anything else (answer text, take a call, get a notification), and then at this point the app immediately sleeps and logs off the session.
If I had a fairly inexpensive (this means many things to many people I get that) device that could keep connected to my ps5 indefinitely or I could use it to wake up the console while on any other network and game on my PS5 from anywhere I'm in.
But right now remote play keeps the tether too short...
Unless my settings are wrong on my phone then please clue me in.
@Wheatly It's amazing how poorly the Wii U did when MK8 has sold like 30m copies on Switch, Zelda BotW I think 11m, Pikmin 3 I think did well. Smash is similar, Splatoon 2 was basically Splatoon, as is Splatoon 3. The library is so similar, but Nintendo screw over it's attempts at selling the Wii U, what little attempt they made, every which way possible.
Not just them though I guess, every company gets complacent., Sony screwed up PS3 after PS2, though unlike Nintendo they figured it out later, which Nintendo did do w/ the slow start 3DS. Sony did well w/ PS4 after PS3, Nintendo did well w/ Switch after Wii U. But Wii U should never have sold that miserably, it took a corporation.
Sony could sell a cloud player, not just remote player, but cloud like Gamepass, and probably outsell Wii U. Not if it's $550 like PS VR2 though. 🤑
If this is true, I want it day one
I use remote play quite a bit with my vita.
But I find I get a much more stable connection with my PS4 pro than my launch PS5. Not sure why..
@TheCollector316 Sony has strange hate, maybe fear of gaming via cloud. They had a vision of cloud streaming at one time. But those Sony executives have been pushed aside. Sony is the only ones to take away devices they had originally supported (TVs, PS3, DVD players). And did so for no real technical reason (at the time) other than to sell more PS4s. They have slowed walked advancing their own (first to market service) PS Now to be competitive and support more endpoints (it is non-existent beyond PC and PS. Meanwhile others (Xbox, GeForce Now, Luna, and many more) support a broad selection of additional endpoints to service the consumer. And now if a PS5 exclusive game is on their cloud service it is only streamable if you are streaming it to a PS5 (forget even trying if you have a PS4). It is not like a games stream at 4k and can't play otherwise. They prioritized the console endpoint (especially the current gen) at every turn. That is the opposite of what you should be doing. So, I agree they should make this device support their cloud service but history shows they probably won't. I believe they will prioritize this device around supporting PS consoles in order to sell more consoles. Obviously it they do it will likely fail. Which case they can always update it to later support their cloud service.
Edit: even this device is rumored to only support Remote Play from PS5 consoles. So not supporting PS4 further tells me, if true, it probably won't support their cloud gaming.
I do this on my steamdeck and have access to pc games. Way better
The recent Remote Play video showcases who is new to it, doesn't understand it, says Vita or just well never heard of it because Sony doesn't market it that much which with the PSP not sure but Vita I mean it's clear there with Vita marketing as sad as it is. The Wii U well Nintendo did not market it well. I mean you can show a Switch like ad situation to showcase the Wii U with (I like the Wii U I understand that isn't not even dual screen phone pulling off things due to the focused design on 1 app/game but could it for sure it could it even if weak hardware it's about designing around that.
We can have picture and picture and you have a Sony tablet from 2010 with Android 3 or 4 using dual screens to now Samsung, LG (before they dropped out), Microsoft doing dual screen phones with 2 apps/2 games or whatever at the same time. It may have been too early but it was still trying while Switch does what Pocket PCs, PSP 2000s and Nomads have been doing with a cable/dock to a TV for years no one else is doing separated Joycon controllers for their Steam Deck or Cloud handhelds), put the disk in the console to 'show the console', use the Gamepad in Off TV Play, Wiimotes and so on it isn't hard they just want to be the family system.
Well beside the Wii U name many people don't even think about casting their phone to the TV unless a YT app or something has that icon they aren't going to get a third party app to do just that. I do because I think it's cool and well there is delays between the TV and phone but still the consoles Wii U and Vita casting did a better job than the app I used to demo Phone casted content to my TV that isn't an app with a TV mode already.
It's because of that detail, remote play. Android Cloud handhelds are just that Android based not Cloud one use devices they aren't a paperrweight. Also a device that need a console, a router and a phone/handheld/PC device. Why would they need a new handheld for PS5 for that and support PSVR, and PC and Mobile gaming....
Yeah I don't think the fans that want a handheld or the sources/rumours wanting to come up with something so silly think that far on what is needed and why Sony doesn't need to or won't do that. Why would they compete with a handheld or PC handheld for. Why just why. I don't think it makes sense to.
Why would they waste production costs on this think about that. The Wii U was different it was designed around it and dual screens and more with games. Vita was it's own platform and also a remote play option/Playlink with smartphones for PS4 party games among other things to PSVR show what Sony was thinking so why would they have a Remote Play handheld?????
A device that's got barely any use cases than that to go off of unless it's an Android handheld but they did the Xperia Play, probably other tech stuff I haven't uncovered yet why would they need to now of all times.
Their western audience has spoken for console gaming, the phone direction has spoken, PC is another space for digital games so no production there on Sony's end (they made PC and tablet devices in the past anyway so like Microsoft they know that space well and how things were changing) and VR they have solely for the console space so why would they need a handheld? Even if yes I am a handheld fan.
If it was a digital only proper handheld sure it's not as great as having physical for some people but people wouldn't bat an eye as much because it's still a proper device.
A remote play device, aka your phone, PS4 to PS5 (an app) and PC all can do remote play besides well the bonus of the backbone grip for iPhones and Android has no grip partnership product but both phones have the remote play app in their official stores (unoffical apps in the Android store way before Sony offered it on Android in 2019 prior it was Vita exclusive of course) so who really needs a handheld/why would Sony waste production on a useless device that's a paperweight why would they do that.
If Remote Play has always been there from PS3 and PSP when it started (or your cross save Outrun 2 PS2/PSP stuff but that;'s different that's your GBA to GameCube sending a minigame to the RAM kind of like stuff not playing the game level of remote play), to PS3 and Vita to PS4 and Vita/Phones/PC to PS5 using Phones/PCs and PS4 it's clear why would people need a remote play screen besides the more accessible ones.
That or they could have a PS+ TV app. The Vita had Cloud PS Now support for a time so people got to experience something then.
I like remote play but because a phone/Vita can be used for other things as well as remote play not a single use device.
@TheMightyImp2 Could be the way the software is changed between Vita and PlayStation 4s.
It could be the hardware maybe can do more on the RAM/CPU/GPU side to help alongside the casting it from your PS5 to your router to the PS4 Pro so the PS5 or the PS4 Pro does however much of the work.
It could be whether the 5GHz WiFi chip helps the Vita had a 2.4GHz it can't do 5GHz so that could be why as more data but short distance.
Just my thoughts I have no idea but just conclusions I think could be plausible.
@B_Lindz not everyone is from America so currency differences would make it look cheaper or overpriced
@Wheatly "I mean otherwise it really isn't doing anything that can't already be done"
I don't think it's about something "new" so much as something "theirs". I feel like every Apple product that Apple "invented" was actually somebody else's device first that Apple just copied and sold as a "new" idea. When people are drinking the Kool-Aid that's what happens.🤷♂️
Sony sold a PS Vita TV, a 3D "display" that nobody remembers and a PSPgo that they erased from the history books, so selling a device destined for failure isn't really beyond them. It may just be for Japan though, I've read wi-fi works ok there. It must, they sell "Cloud" Switch games there for full MSRP. Vita sold ok in Japan for years, they'll seemingly buy anything mobile there.
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