Well, then – here we are. As perhaps even eternal optimists may have anticipated, US regulator the Federal Trade Commission has lost its case against Microsoft, meaning there’ll be no preliminary injunction to prevent its Activision Blizzard acquisition from closing before its 18th July deadline. And in dramatic fashion, the house of cards has subsequently collapsed, with the UK’s Competition and Markets Authority effectively admitting that it’ll return to the table to renegotiate with the Redmond firm.
While we’re still sceptical of speaking in definitives – this entire saga has brought about more twists and turns than a sensationalist Netflix documentary – it’s looking like the $69 billion buyout is now on the precipice. And therefore it’s probably an appropriate moment to consider what the deal closing would actually mean for PlayStation, and what its next moves are likely to be. After all, we’re all viewing this deal through the lens of being PS5 and PS4 owners, so it’s worth discussing.
In the short-term, the answer is fairly obvious: very little. Even in the unlikely event of the deal closing tomorrow – and it won’t, because the Xbox maker still needs to work through those aforementioned issues with the CMA – it’ll take a considerable amount of time for the publisher to be integrated under Microsoft’s umbrella. Moreover, Sony still has marketing rights to this year’s Call of Duty game, and the Redmond firm has obviously committed to ensuring the franchise remains multiformat for at least a decade.
That means even in 2033, you’ll still be able play Call of Duty on PlayStation – and that’s assuming the franchise retains its enduring popularity, because there’s obviously no guarantee it will. As for other Activision Blizzard titles, Crash Team Rumble, Diablo 4, and Overwatch 2 have all just launched – and it’s unlikely any changes would be made to in-development projects, so you can certainly expect continued PS5 and PS4 releases from the publisher for at least the next 18 months, if not more.
It should be noted that despite its monolithic scale, Activision Blizzard doesn’t actually release many games outside of Call of Duty, and there’s a reason for that: the first-person franchise has slowly consumed all of its development resources, with dozens of teams now assigned to sustaining the series. There’s some hope from the most enthusiastic Xbox fans that this acquisition will usher in a new era of output from the legendary publisher, but it seems hugely optimistic to us – especially if the notoriously resource heavy Call of Duty is, as promised, now going to release on more platforms, like the Nintendo Switch.
But if not much is going to change for PlayStation in the short-term, then where’s the fire? Well, it’s the precedent that this acquisition sets – and the context in which it’s unfolding. It’s important to remember that Microsoft has already purchased one traditionally third-party publisher in Bethesda, and now it’s on the cusp of blowing $69 billion on the industry’s biggest. We know it’s had its beady eyes on others like Square Enix and SEGA, although ultimately didn’t follow through.
Sony’s business model relies on strong third-party support, as it’s through these games that it earns the vast majority of its revenue. In fact, increasingly PlayStation is earning more and more of its money through microtransactions, with in-game purchases driving its income to record levels. It’ll continue to make a substantial chunk of change from Call of Duty for the next decade at least, but its traditional business model is under threat if more third-party franchises eventually end up exclusive, and it’s going to need nous to navigate these turbulent times.
The reason for this is because, despite being an organisation of considerable wealth, the Japanese giant simply doesn’t have the financial resources to compete in the playground that Microsoft’s engaging in. That means retaliatory acquisitions are simply out of the question, and therefore there is a very real danger other publishers could be snatched away. While it’s admittedly unlikely, it’s a potential risk that PlayStation may need to plan for if it intends to remain solvent for decades to come.
Sony’s current business model operates on razor thin margins, where it spends extraordinary sums of money on marketing to expand its install base and drive further revenue. In this scenario, it should be underlined that many of its first-party projects also act as a form of brand advertising: recent documents revealed that exclusives like The Last of Us: Part 2 and Horizon Forbidden West cost over $200 million to develop – and those figures are only going to rise.
PlayStation invests these extraordinary sums into first-party development because these games help to sell PS5 and PS4 consoles, but its business model only works with the revenue it’s generating from third-party games to prop it up. This is the potential pitfall that Sony now faces: the Activision Blizzard buyout alone is unlikely to dramatically impact it, but if it sets a precedent where other publishers fall, then the platform holder could be in trouble.
Many have argued that PlayStation could simply follow Nintendo’s route, where it’s historically been able to sell systems on the strength of its own software alone. But, with the greatest of respect to the Mario maker’s output – and regardless of which games you personally prefer to play – there’s a gulf between the production values in, say, Pikmin 4 when compared with God of War. Sony’s entire publishing output is defined by its big budgets.
And there’s another wrinkle to this which is proving a major threat to the status quo: Microsoft wants you to play its games as part of a subscription. While there’s no evidence that the scales have reached tipping point just yet – in fact, consumer adoption of services like Game Pass has stalled in the United States – there is a danger that it could eventually impede the sales of full-price games. At which point, PlayStation could find itself in a position where it has no other option but to launch its games into PS Plus – further compounding the issues with its business model.
Of course, all of this is hypothetical – and potentially years away at that. It also assumes any purchased publishers would follow in Bethesda’s footsteps and largely transition to Xbox exclusivity, where there’s no guarantee that’ll necessarily be the case. The positive for PlayStation, regardless, is that it has time on its side: its highly successful business model is not going to collapse in the next five to ten years – if it even does at all. And if there is a scenario where some of the outcomes outlined in this article come to pass, it has plenty of time to create contingency plans and pivot accordingly.
So in the here and now, PlayStation is unlikely to be affected by Microsoft’s big money purchase of Activision Blizzard. However, the organisation is going to have to be aggressive, nimble, and smart if it’s to overcome the very real challenges it faces. Hopefully it can come out of this scenario stronger and continuing to deliver the type of games we all know and love – but it’d be naïve to assume it’ll be all plain sailing from here onwards.
What do you think Microsoft’s proposed purchase of Activision Blizzard means for PlayStation? Are you concerned for the future of Sony’s gaming brand? Do you think everything will be hunky-dory regardless? And what should the Japanese giant do if the deal goes through? Let us know in the comments section below.
Is Microsoft's proposed purchase of Activision Blizzard a concern for PlayStation? (3,142 votes)
- Yes, it'd be naïve to assume this won't impact Sony's business
- Maybe, but it could take years before we see any real impact
- No, this won't affect PlayStation in the near or far future
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To me nothing changes, but Sony needs to lock down some key players to the business especially in asia. Other than that they are planting seeds in korea, india and so forth. But they need to secure some names cause its clear xbox is out to spend sony out of business
We won't truly know the major impact until at least 3-5 years. I'm not happy about this. But imma gamer before in a complainer, so I'll focus on the positive right now.
To be fair, Sony could do with a good boot up the arse, so let’s see how they respond over the next few years.
Buy Capcom and Square-Enix and let them have their garbage developer Activision Blizzard.
They continue as normal by consistently making some of the best games in the industry.
Acquisitions would be nice, but PlayStation speaks with quality not quantity.
The scrutiny on Microsoft will 100% increase if they try and buy other publishers. Because let’s face it at some point Microsoft will need to be stopped from creating a monopoly
@kyleforrester87 There's a kick up the arse and then there's having your entire established business model potentially flipped on its head.
BUT! I'm sure they pay people very, very handsomely to navigate situations like this, so it'll be interesting to see what the coming years bring.
@get2sammyb 10 years is plenty of time for Sony to sink or swim
It's depressing seeing so many people championing the monopolization and consolidation of the industry.
The floodgates are open and I'm seeing big players like Amazon and Tencent spending big money in publishers so they don't stay behind. Sony will probably be affected after the next 10 years, and they must be more aggressive in order to stay competitive. I'm seeing them buying at least square enix as a protective move in the near future.
I think Sony needs to step up their game and make big acquisitions of their own but at the same time take the opportunity to strengthen themselves and stop relying so much on third party as solutions. They should get back to making their own big shooters again to complete.
Unlike Xbox, Sony can create great new games so this should give them a much needed push to expand their library with new games while Xbox continues to milk others success.
It will simply change their future thinking. Us gamers wont see any big changes for a long time. With COD still releasing, its still only a small part of Sony's business that will be lost.
Not much will change in the short term since COD will release on Playstation for 10 years but Sony has to start making counter moves now or they could disappear by 2040
For the most part xbox will just be getting a huge cut of all the playstation sales. What helps playstation will also be helping xbox.
Additionally gamepass will be even better. Sony will need to focus resources here that it has previously been reluctant to.
Some of the single player focused games might be exclusive. These won't be a huge hit to sony. Call of duty, overwatch, maybe even diablo will remain on ps.
I think the biggest change is that it will put Sony and Microsoft on a more even footing in the console space. If that is good or bad will depend on perspective.
The days of all the good exclusives being on PS are probably over but this is hardly the first time in the history of consoles where that has been the case.
Personally, I don't think this will result in any drastic changes. My hope is it will force Sony into a spot where it feels pressured to start making more consumer-friendly decisions to compete.
@KaijuKaiser i wouldn't assume hi fi rush would have been multiplat on release. Sony bought the 2 previous bethesda games and had eyes on starfield.
I’m not sure if I ever heard whether this 10 yr COD agreement had any stipulation of how PlayStation maintains access to COD. Is it contingent upon running it through a GamePass app? Is it only to be streamable through their proprietary cloud services? If so, it doesn’t really benefit Sony nearly as much if they can’t continue to collect their 30% cut when it and it’s MTX are sold through the PS store.
In that reality I think it’s a bigger mess. A future where some form of GamePass is on PlayStation is a really weird thing. I image it would be a modified version that doesn’t have all of the same features as the Xbox GamePass, but regardless, it would be complicated.
I do think the quality of COD possible erodes, or at least shifts to some different type of game than we’re used to. It makes no difference to me since I don’t play COD, but if Sony loses revenue due to loss of COD sales, I see the end of experimental projects like Dreams and other sunken costs that take too many chances to lose money. And that would be unfortunate.
It wouldn't surprise me to see Sony start creating a title similar to COD in the next five years. Makes much more sense to create competition than buy it. It's difficult, sure, but certainly not impossible.
@Titntin Yeah I think you put it quite succinctly there. Like you say, we won't see any changes for many years.
@Total_Weirdo
Hahahahaha. Yeah, their negotiating position just got a lot weaker.
@Th3solution "I’m not sure if I ever heard whether this 10 yr COD agreement had any stipulation of how PlayStation maintains access to COD. Is it contingent upon running it through the GamePass app? Is it through their proprietary cloud services? If so, it doesn’t really benefit Sony nearly as much if they can’t continue to collect their 30% cut when it and it’s MTX are sold through the PS store."
Nah, nothing like that. It'll continue to release on PlayStation as it would have done had the acquisition never occurred. For the next 10 years at least, anyway.
It isn't just Sony's future but the industry as a whole, I wouldn't be surprised if in (quite) a few years we have a repeat of 1983 only the reasons will be quite different (forced expensive subs to play games etc).
Hopefully Nintendo can save us again.
Nothing much. What will they miss really? COD is a huge one but that's not for 10 years, and who knows if it'll stop even then. Crash? Great series but one new game in years and Rumble was a disaster. Most of the other IPs haven't seen a release in a very long time
So, just asking a question, don’t pile on me as I’m just curious and hoping to get the answer from someone more knowledgeable than me. Could this be a move to get gamepass on PS in the future? Like a EA Play / Ubisoft model?
@Mauzuri on what basis is MS doing a hell of a lot better though? They still don't have games, gamepass is still most likely losing money, and PS plus in the last 6 months has gotten massively better and their console sales are shocking
That means even in 2033, you’ll still be able play Call of Duty on PlayStation
I'm not even playing it in 2023 so Call of duty is no big loss at all for me
The impact won't be felt until PS6. More casual gamers might purchase Microsoft's machine on the basis they will be advertising COD heavily as an xbox title (assuming COD is still a big deal in a few years time).
Microsoft having advertising rights to COD was a significant contributor to Microsoft's initial success with the 360, and likewise Sony with PS4.
Sony is going to have to be smart. A cornered Sony is a dangerous animal though. They turned around the dreadful start to PS3 and released some of the best games of the generation. They are going to have to shore up and further invest in their first party talent, and work to retain those old relationships they have treasured over the last 25 years.
And for goodness sake, go and say sorry to those Japanese developers and rebuild those relationships.
Playstation has by no means been dealt a killing blow here, but hard work is definitely needed.
Well funny enough atleast over the next 10 years Sony will be profiting more from call of duty as now they can charge Activision the usual 30% cut instead of the reduced discount they currently have. Sony will also save on marketing the games.
The single player games from ABK don't bring sony much money, plus overwatch 2 is free to play and will most likely to be that way in the future. It's literally only call of duty that could effect Sony's business and we would have to wait atleast 10 years to see if it would be removed to do so.
Also how often do ABK release console games outside of call of duty? Diablo is every 10 years or so, crash every so often, Spyro may aswell be dead. They mainly focus on live service and even then most are PC or Mobile only.
People are seriously overestimating this deal in terms of losing console games and it effecting sony in a major way.
@get2sammyb Ok, thanks for clarifying. I had conspiracy theories swirling in my head. I think I based it off the idea that the only way the Switch has a prayer of running COD is through the cloud. So I wondered if all multiplatform versions of COD would be that way.
As for Sony’s next move, I do think a legit COD competitor better be in the works. I feel like they have to get that going and not wait 10 yrs. Especially since their first few attempts might fail.
Nothing, PlayStation will still be number 1 and reign supreme.
What will happen is Sony lose billions. What could they have done with that money? What R&D will they cut, what games will they no longer make? Who’s to say. Undoubtedly a company of Sony’s size losing that much money is not good for the industry as a whole or any playstation owner. It’ll also lead to the rise of subscription and perhaps cloud gaming (again, not good for the industry).
I don't think the Microsoft buying spree is great, but I'm more concerned with what's going on with Playstation internally. Their first party development has an incredible track record so they deserve the benefit of the doubt, but their seeming ambitions to become Ubisoft is concerning (and I say that as someone who actually kind of likes Ubi). It's not hard to see the focus on GaaS going poorly over the next 3-4yrs, and that's at least as great of a threat as what Microsoft is doing.
@KaijuKaiser where did I imply the window of development? All I said was Sony was known to have made a deal on 2 bethesda games prior to the merge and was in discussions for Starfield exclusivity.
I don't think you can assume multiplatform release of Hi Fi rush when Sony was working to secure a 3rd out of the 4 known bethesda upcoming releases.
Sony had set a precedent of securing exclusive release window of bethesda titles.
Edit: redfall wasnt announced until after the acquisition. So sony had the previous 2 and was working on the 3rd of the 3 known upcoming releases.
@Total_Weirdo What about future Diablo, Overwatch and Crash games? Not many people play cod but these games people do play and enjoy on Playstation.
I’m beginning to think at this point anything that Microsoft does will just be them farting into a hurricane. Series sales are only tracking slightly ahead of xbone, gamepass subscribers have flatlined, Xbox doesn’t sell outside of the United States. Their only hope is if Sony and nintendo ***** up at the same time.
The main way this will impact Sony is that all that game revenue will now go to Microsoft's gaming budget. This will allow Xbox Games Studios to grow much faster, but not at Sony's expense.
Probably the only IP here I care about is Crash Bandicoot (but I still incorporate that IP more with the PS brand even though it's already owned by Activision out of nostalgia). CoD will probably keep releasing in PS consoles for a long while but we'll probably see the day that Crash is now an Xbox mascot. On another note, maybe we'll finally see Crash joining Smash if Banjo & Kazooie and Steve were allowed to join
@get2sammyb But Sony will still get a cut from sales/micro-transactions on PlayStation Store - where a majority of Call of Duty players will reside - because the game isn't going anywhere.
Phil Spencer even said under oath that Call of Duty will remain on PlayStation (I'm not exactly sure what else you all need as proof that your precious CoD and Sony money machine will stick around for the long run).
His exact words under oath (copied from IGN):
"I would raise my hand. I will do whatever it takes," he said in court. "We have no plan. I'm making a commitment standing here that we will not pull Call of Duty - it is my testimony - from PlayStation."
Okay, so Sony loses the "edge" it had with the marketing deal as Microsoft said it isn't playing favorites for anyone.
Even having the game on Game Pass won't sway a bulk of gamers because it's cheaper to just buy the game outright for a year until the next one releases (which is probably the bulk of actual CoD gamers). Most people are going to stick with the platform they are most comfortable with.
And while Sony fans are sitting here wondering what happens to "poor" PlayStation, Nintendo fans are just happy that Call of Duty is even a possibility in the foreseeable future.
Also, if one IP from a third-party is your entire business model, it's time to find a new business model.
I don’t think we have to be extremely worried about this. What we should worry about however, is the direction current leadership is taking PlayStation in and the current state of first party studios.
As others have said, it doesn't really affect me in anyway, it'll probably hit Playstation but they got money, they'll be fine.
Everybody just talks COD, but that will still be on PS at least for 10 years. All other AB games, though, 100% Xbox exclusive, just like Bethesda and that will hurt badly. Still not buying an Xbox. 😄
@Cjam36 couldn’t have said it better. The current threats for PlayStation’s future are internal. This leadership is trying to turn PlayStation into a money milking machine and its apparent from everything: its GaaS push, its focus on milking existing IPs through sequels and remakes, its excessive handholding in their recent major games, etc.
The kick up the arse that coasting Sony needed. Will be interesting to see how Sony respond.
It sets a dangerous precedent. If you have enough money you can just buy out the competition. We supposedly had systems in place to prevent monopolies...but if you go before inept judges and make crooked backroom dealings you can easily bypass all of it. Phil Spencer has lost the last shred of goodwill I had for him. What a snake in the grass he turned out to be.
@Th3solution
According to an interview with The Verge:
Sony will be great, so will Nintendo. I see it leveling out the gaming industry a bit, which hopefully will lead to more competition. We as consumers will benefit from that. As an owner of all 3 I actually think today's news was good
Idk that MS can even successfully manage what they have more less another publisher. Especially with their business model being GamePass. Which going forward with big AAA self published games going to that service day one will eventually have a huge negative impact on them. The Nintendo and Playstation fan bases are pretty loyal. It be interesting to see if MS growth doesn't budge after this and how long they continue to operate in the red.
@kyleforrester87 I hope the kick connects with Jim Ryan's arse and boots him out so they can get someone in who cares about the brand and the historic franchises rather than remake of a remake of a remake.
PS seems currently directionless, unless you count micro-transactions. Where has all the creativity gone? PS3 had some stunning IPs and they've been left to rot and instead we've had Not-The-Last-Of-Us-Again and Again and Again. PS5 has been a large fail for me so far.
One thing is that only some franchises will be exclusive to XBox as M$ will need to see some returns on their investment and every game of theirs on PS gives them money back. One wonders what will happen to Crash and Spyro though?
@grimgaming Hasn't Nintendo been milking the same franchises for the last 30 years? It's working great for them. Sony is just doing what is best for their business and that means more TLOU, GoW, Spider Man.
What happens to Playstation? The best outcome is Playstation becomes competitive to make up any losses or expected losses, and has to actually try to win people's business like they used to making PS better than it was before the merger, even if making the shareholders wearier.
What likely happens? Absolutely nothing at all, because they still totally dominate in marketshare and it will be a long time before they feel the effects of any kind of shift in install base.
We can split the odds down the middle and go with "The PS6 Slim redesign era will be the best Playstation since the PS1"
@sanderson72 I tend to agree, although I don’t particularly dislike Jim but can’t say I have a lot of affinity for him either, and I am willing to put the last weird year from PlayStation down to them fighting this.
But they need to start to up their game now somehow, I don’t know the answer but the Sony Brand bread and butter exclusives just don’t do it for me anymore. Last one really worth a damn in my view was Bloodborne and that was a third party dev. (Although, I am yet to pick up Gran Turismo 6.)
Gamepass is losing money. Just wait it out.
@get2sammyb
"...it has plenty of time to create contingency plans and pivot accordingly."
This has always been the key point for me.
Sony aren't just sitting around saying their prayers. They're putting in massive effort with small devs in India, China and Korea.
They've been investing around the industry, they've been picking up incredible creative talent and you can bet they'll be trying to secure Square Enix and Capcom in some manner, even if it's just with investments like they did with Kadokawa/FromSoftware (alongside Tencent).
In a perfect world we wouldn't have consolidation, but we're here now. It is what it is.
Sony increased their own budget for acquisition and investments recently.
I'm legit excited to see what they do next.
Put Crunchyroll on PS Plus Premium maybe as a start. Give me a Bloodborne or GoW anime.
What happens to Playstation? They keep making better 1st party games and signing exclusivity deals. I'm Game Pass, PS Plus and Nintendo. Not phased really save for the incoming Game Pass boost, which will be nice.
@BeerIsAwesome ah whatever number they are up to now. I was playing Gran Turismo 1 earlier today, the world’s gone crazy.
Man Pikmin 4 vs God of War. Both awesome series but I know which one I would rather play 💙❤️💛. Crazy how production values don’t always equal fun.
For myself personally this isn't a huge deal as while I occasionally dabble in COD I can live without it if the time would ever come that it is no longer on Playstation.
There's no denying that this is a potentially big problem for Sony though. I don't think the ship is sinking or anything but no doubt it's unfortunate news for them and for the industry. Though I'm sure they have a plan to deal with it as best they can.
There simply isn't an easy replacement for the money COD makes. Anyone thinking this might somehow magically bring the likes of Killzone or Resistance back is honestly just naive.(Even though I'd love to see that) Sony could put out the greatest shooter of all time and it wouldn't even come close to making a tenth of the money COD brings in on a yearly basis. It's just not possible.
And the "Just be like Nintendo" idea is NOT the way to go. Honestly its a miracle Nintendo remains as successful as they are. Everything surrounding their IP and developer talent is literally awful.(underpowered hardware, dodgy internet, strange business decisions, etc) It would be a very bad idea to base your business around the way Nintendo does things. Their success is an anomaly, not the norm I would say.
The good news is we won't see any real change for quite a while. If Sony wishes to keep COD on Playstation there's one way they can...continue to sell as many consoles as possible. If they can manage that somehow then Microsoft will have to continue to play ball at least with COD.
@Vergil7 I think more people play COD on playstation than any of those other games by a fair amount. Unless I am misreading your statement.
@Sil_Am that is correct but Nintendo actually innovates, both with their games and with their platforms. I’d love to see a new GoW and TLOU but what I wouldn’t like to see is a sequel that barely changed anything compared to its predecessor, which is what GOWR and HFW (and likely SM2 too) are
I believe it is the kind of blow that will be felt not now, but in a decade.
I obviously can't predict the future, but I believe Microsoft is in a position where their consoles can become the "default" gaming platform simply because everything will be there, sometimes with a little perk, and financially more accessible.
(People who keep preaching about how Game Pass will eventually fail really needs to get out of whatever they are smoking. Haven't they seen how profitable subscriptions are?)
In a scenario like this, Sony could probably go the Nintendo route, but it is also possible that they are pushed out of the market because, unlike Nintendo, their games are way too expensive to be made.
In that sense, GaaS really is one of the few possibilities of secure revenue for their future.
@NEStalgia "What happens to Playstation? The best outcome is Playstation becomes competitive to make up any losses or expected losses, and has to actually try to win people's business like they used to making PS better than it was before the merger, even if making the shareholders wearier."
I mean, to be fair, Sony is in the position it's in because it has continuously created compelling products.
I know Sony has historically made acquisitions and signed deals with publishers to strengthen their position, but nothing ever on this kind of scale. Again, this is $69 billion!
I don't play COD, only one of my kids does and that's purely for zombies. It could go tomorrow and I wouldn't care. But I know a lot of people do.
@Tharsman Thanks for the sourced reference! Sammy eased my concerns but it’s good to see the actual quotes from Phil. It also makes me feel less paranoid that I obviously wasn’t the only one concerned that the 10 yr commitment was all bait-and-switch scheme since he had to emphatically clarify in such a open manner.
@grimgaming It's an unrealistic expectation to expect franchises with $200 million budgets to completely reinvent themselves with each iteration. Not only would that push the development cost of each entry through the roof, but you'd basically be getting one game every eight to ten years from Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, et al.
If anything, this entire scenario is going to make their first-party games even less risky, so if you already think they're playing it safe, then it's going to be a dark generation for you!
What happens to every developer now that the rat race is on?
All sony need to do is to buy square enix and focus on making sure at least 4 or 5 of they’re live service games secede.
"Redmond firm has obviously committed to ensuring the franchise remains multiformat for at least a decade"
So I know that MS offered to have COD on PS for 10 years, was the offer accepted? I might have missed this. I read that the COD license expires this year on PS, but this article states how COD will be on PS for the next 10 years...?
Anyway now PS can buy Ubisoft and invest in XDefiant and have their own COD
Here is the only way this could work: Microsoft gets out of the console business and Game Pass ends up on PlayStation (and every other remaining platform).
It may sound absurd now, but that is where we seem to be heading in my view. Either that, or one of the two platform holders will implode in the long run.
What really changes is that Sony is now in the ring with an extremely hostile competitor, as opposed to the seemingly docile and complacent one last gen. This deal has now been tested and proven to boost competition, and that's exactly what is going to happen. It won't happen overnight, but MS will now be taking control of all ABK marketing once the current deals expire, and that alone is going to be a huge bump for Xbox. You want to see the new CoD announcements; you tune into Xbox 'not E3'.
@get2sammyb
That’s a factor but Sony is where it is, in my humble opinion, more thanks to third party exclusivity and marketing deals than due to the games they create.
Edit:
I think the only one that can claim to be in the position they are primarily based on the games they create is Nintendo.
I voted that it maybe will impact Sony but I don't necessarily believe that the 'extra' Competition that Xbox and their business model poses will be 'negative' - I believe that it could well be Positive for us as Gamers....
No question it will hurt eventually, but it’s not likely to in the short term
@Art_Vandelay I keep thinking about this too.
I think a few years back Jim Ryan or someone said something along the lines of Game Pass will never be on PlayStation while Sony are competing with XBOX in the console space.
I can't find the exact quote right now though.
The point being that it could happen, but not while XBOX exists as a console.
@BeerIsAwesome yeah I played a bit of Sport, so 7 is technically 8. Or is it 9 or 10 if we include the “Concept” games? Lol.
Looking at the titles now, I forget that GT3 had the subtitle “A-spec”. That’s pretty cool, to be fair.
@BeerIsAwesome yes I remember Concept on PS3 getting a real slating for its overall lack of content versus cost, beating Ground Zeroes to the punch there perhaps!
No one in our house is interested in cod these days. We prefer the single player games
@get2sammyb Playstation is in this position due to a cocktail of events and circumstances that lead here, not insignificantly PS's competitors shooting themselves in both feet more than once, enough for that time PS shot itself in the foot to not be fatal. The end result was a market that really just became a market of one by default. Not really because PS of what PS did right, but simply because they were doing less wrong. And once in that position there's so much momentum. It's not like they simply offer so much more that's so much better that it just ran the competition out of town. Their popular games are popular but if you add up the total number of people buying in just to play HFW, GoWR, and all 12 of us with a PSVR2, that might not also be swayed by something like Starfield and Fable to go green instead, even a 100% conversion of that game-swayed market from blue to green would not likely alter the market share significantly. Something like CoD would have a much bigger impact in swaying that, and that's why it came down to everyone arguing about CoD, and landing on the idea that MS guaranteeing no change for an acceptable period of time is plenty of time for PS to either compete, or fail to on their own merits. Obviously, if in 10 years MS manages to win all the gamers just by having CoD, and PS can't avoid bleeding market, then their products weren't really all that compelling, were they?
If what PS has is what PS buyers are seeking, this has no effect on PS, really, at all. If PS buyers were mostly just buying PS's to play CoD on, then PS wasn't really offering a compelling product in the end, they were coasting.
Having said that, while I think this does help MS's position, I still don't think even this will be a big enough boot to actually accomplish that. You're technically right that PS's products are compelling, and thus I don't see this changing demand significantly for PS's products. Revenues? Maybe. Demand? Not so much. But that's two different situations. Which is a shame, because I would have liked it to be a large boot to the posterior to kick them into being more competitive, but I really don't see even this being that effective at that.
ABK and Microsoft would LOSE so much money if they didn't release the heavy hitters on Playstation. Call of Duty especially. I don't expect Call of Duty to be an Xbox exclusive ever, due to the amount of money it generates, the plans for the franchise to become a platform in and of itself, and the low insthall base of Xbox and PC when compared to Sony consoles; Playstation CoD users are more numerous than both combined. The prospect of buying an Xbox for Call of Duty also doesn't really make sense, especially if the consumer already has a PS4 or PS5. Enthusiasts who own a PS4 or PS5 will just play on PC or buy or build a PC if they want to play CoD bad enough, and casual CoD players will not know that CoD is exclusive which will lead to frustration.
Not to mention ABK's Call of Duty mobile games...as of now ABK is employing a scattershot approach in terms of getting CoD into as many hands as possible, but if you take a huge platform like PS out of the mix, the likelihood of mobile platforms overshadowing and cannibalizing less established platforms grows.
Emerging franchises are a different story. ABK is massive, with multiple devs all working on CoD. Some of these studios can be pivoted to other emerging franchises that could be exclusive to PC and Xbox.
And also...don't forget about Battle.net as well. It's going to be interesting to see what happens with that. I honestly don't expect much to change this gen, and I don't expect much to change next gen either.
Expect the next 3 CoD games for sure on PS.
I'm sure sony can manage without the games activison/blizzard release. After all microsoft have been surviving without sonys exclusives quite well so far. I cant see call of duty vanishing from the playstation as thats a lot of money to lose out on. At the end of the day there is nothing anybody can do about it anyway so why worry? Enjoy what you have while you still have it.
Maybe xbox, playstation and nintendo should join forces and create a super console the 'Playnintex' 😂
Expect more 3rd party exclusives and i wouldn't be shocked if Sony go after SE or CDPR now.
I just hope this all backfires on MS. Anyone with a lick of sense knows MS are aiming to get rid of Sony and its quite worrying knowing MS have the money to do that. This judge has a history of backing MS as she's done it before and her son works at MS, MS paying people off is not unheard off so 🤷♂️
Sony will be just fine
It won’t have a huge deal other than the states. In Japan MS is miles off and a lot of AB games aren’t very popular. In Europe the majority of causal gamers pick PS every time and that won’t change. As long as the likes of fifa and COD stay on the system then sales won’t fall away. What I think it could impact is the PC market which again Sony is supporting. The deal was based on COD and it’s still around for 10 years. Will COD still be the powerhouse in 10 years, unsure
I'd be happy if Nintendo were to get game pass.
@WallyWest No, I don't think so. MS aren't trying to get rid of Sony. It's Sony that wanna get rid of xbox. Also, there's nothing MS can do to get rid of Sony. Xbox is shxt.
Let MS have COD. Activision..! I'd put them in the same class a EA. I'm a gaming snob and I wouldn't, as a matter of principle, buy an Activision or EA game. Trash mongers.
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I can't wait for Pikmin 4
I don’t like it.. I don’t trust Microsoft. One big evidence is look how Sony buying out Bungie vs Microsoft buying out Bethesda. They are anti consumer and they just have deep enough pockets to do this type of stuff. I been following game news way back when you would get a game informer magazine subscription at GameStop or EB games back then.
What has Microsoft done over the last 20 years?
They have to buy devs and publishers to remain competitive because they suck at putting the work in like Sony has. They cry and say we are dead last in the console race.. they did that so they can buy their way up to the top.
This is what makes the gaming business so unattractive. They said they don’t want to make exclusives but only do that because Sony does it. Does any one remember the dlc maps on Call of Duty that Microsoft had first dibs to because they bought exclusive rights to the content and their ads had Microsoft logo in the end. EA sports had the Microsoft logo because Microsoft paid for their name to be their.
Ok that being said, how do they become dead last and cry it because Sony does exclusivity when the whole time Sony did it because they were playing Microsoft’s own game.
Sony will probably buy another major studio or publisher now since it will more than likely finalize.
You can probably see a competition of consolidating the gaming industry.
That all being said. Please Sony, bring back good titles.. Socom would be a good pick, Warhawk for a fun arcade shooter. I miss those days.
I don’t think it doesn’t do anything their first party is a lot stronger then theirs. And I think Sony buys square after all the dust is settled. And call of duty will keep being on ps5 anyways.
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It's easy for some of us to say, we don't play CoD or other Blizzard/Activision games, but MS can do things that will sway casuals from the PlayStation platform. I've seen a few people who were desperate to get the PS5 to being happy with an xbox.
I can see a shift happening, but nothing to stop PlayStation still being around after 10 years.
I know it'll be a blow to Sony's / PS' operations but in a personal sense, it doesn't affect my gaming habits or decisions as I don't gravitate towards Activision Blizzard games.
I'm looking forward to the eventual sourness that long time Activion Blizzard games fans will go through once MS/Xbox gets their hands on their IP.
@CutchuSlow There's literal emails saying they want to get rid of Sony.
Of course it’s going to have an impact, but not at all concerning, Sony is a juggernaut in gaming, they will absolutely find a way to keep being the market leader for the rest of this generation at the very least, and in fact I’m way less concerned about Microsoft-Activision than Sony themselves with their current obsession seeking a cash cow in live-service games.
Guys...I get it, this is a PS site, so everything has to be viewed through the lens of what's good for Playstation...but framing the question as "What happens to Playstation if MS buys ActiBlizz" is just asking for bad faith, console wars nonsense.
Nothing that affects PS users in any measurable way happens. For the foreseeable future it will be business as usual because Microsoft HAS TO recoup that $70 BILLION they're spending, and they simply cannot do that by pulling stuff like CoD from PS platforms, and they've committed in writing to supporting PS platforms with ActiBlizz titles for AT LEAST the next decade.
The ONLY thing that happens in the immediate is Sony not being able to buy marketing or early access or exclusive items. That's literally it, nothing of any consequence.
There's a whole lot of what ifs getting thrown around, and sure, there's a lot of stuff Microsoft COULD do, but it's going to be a long time. Especially after all the pushback they've gotten because of this deal (and the Bethesda deal), MS is going to have to be real, real careful about what they decide to do going forward. They're going to play nice with everyone for as long as they have to, because it benefits them to do so.
@Ashina that sounds more realistic 😂
@kyleforrester87 Exactly this, currently I do feel that Sony lacks competition and they’re being too complacent about it, but people here are more concerned to what happens to a big corporation who is already a juggernaut in gaming, instead of focusing how will it impact us.
Just think about it, if Microsoft starts eating up some market share from Sony it will force Sony to compete more aggressively by benefiting US, PS users, but some people are so blind to their fanboyism that they care more about the financial performance of a corporation rather than our own financials lol
Xbox are thinking the long game here.
Where people will just jump from game to game instantly on GamePass whilst playing on xCloud. No downloads.
I'm afraid Playstation and Nintendo will not be able to compete here. They will need Microsoft servers to do so.
Anyone thinking this isn't a massive blow has their head in the ground.
I have felt all along that even if Call of Duty is not exclusive to Xbox, launching day one on gamepass will be almost as impactful. If there's one thing out there that could provide a huge boost to a subscription service and move some people away from PS, it's COD.
@Mauzuri doing a hell of a lot better?? what are you smoking man you could of said they as a company has be doing a lil better I'll believe that more
Since we're talking in hypotheticals, here's another one: Microsoft continues to lose money on its consoles, is unable to compete in the hardware market, and follows in SEGA's footsteps by becoming a third-party publisher to PlayStation and Nintendo, along with Steam, Epic, iOS, Android, etc.
Microsoft admitted in testimony that it has never been especially competitive in the console market sales race. It more or less tied with GameCube for sales in the PS2 era, finished third behind Wii and PS3, finished a distant third to PS4 and Nintendo Switch, and is badly lagging behind PS5.
If any company has a right to be concerned about its future in the gaming space, it's Microsoft. But they'll be just fine, even if it means GamePass becomes a stand-alone subscription on PS6 or whatever.
(Quick edit: I don't really believe any of this will happen, but my point is we just can't draw any meaningful conclusions about the MS acquisition of ABK at the moment.)
@RicebinBernacky it will be interesting to see how many of the casual gamers convert to gamepass. Sony had some data on the crazy number of people that have a console and only play COD. I can't imagine too many of those players suddenly paying for gamepass instead of just that one time $70 or free to play warzone.
It will be interesting as it unfolds, there hasnt really been a game like this hitting a service before.
@Shepherd_Tallon I remember that. And funnily enough, it aligns perfectly with another quote, but from the other side: when asked about Bethesda games' exclusivity, Phil Spencer said it would be available "wherever Game Pass exists", or something along those lines.
See, not on Xbox. On Game Pass.
Stranger Things have happened.
I personally don’t think much will happen to PlayStation from this acquisition. The article mentions a lot of “what ifs” and they are fair to be cautious, but I think highly unlikely to happen. Yes, Xbox might make some of the games exclusive in time. I don’t think Call of Duty will be exclusive after 10 years, but even if it does, who’s to say COD will still have the impact like it does today? The PlayStation brand is strong. If you have a PS4 or PS5 and love it, I’d be content with that. PlayStation isn’t going away because of this. If anything, PlayStation will make their games better so they can still compete and remain on top. I don’t look at this as a loss for Sony. Even Jim Ryan said PlayStation will be fine.
i've consigned myself to the fact that this will be the last generation of playstation and xbox consoles i will be getting but since i still have 360 games i bought new that i still want to play and haven't got round to yet i think they will see me out but i will be annoying to not get the ending to some storys like horizon etc..
possibly nintendo could keep things offline buy own etc for a few extra consoles too.
@EvilSilentFrame it's true that Microsoft don't exactly have a stellar record of managing the games companies they buy out. Recently they seem to have adopted a 'don't get involved' approach, which is probably sensible given their history, but who knows how long that will last.
@Balosi I think that approach will last awhile with them. They are trying something new. If it works, they’ll stick with it. If it doesn’t, they’ll start getting involved more.
@WallyWest i didn't see the emails. But I thought all it said was that they have the ability to use their money to put sony out of business. I didn't hear them say they are doing it. And Sony are doing something, they are blocking games from being on xbox. Sony are being way more aggressive than you realise. Xbox just trying to keep themselves alive.
I look at it like this. Microsoft saw how important having exclusive COD content was for the Xbox 360. Somehow, Sony was able to wrestle it away during the PS4 generation.
One thing is clear: over the last two generations, both consoles have proven that by having COD exclusive/ marketing rights, we saw Microsoft and Sony both have a more competitive edge than when they didn’t.
But I still believe Sony will ultimately be just fine with their superior first party games and better management.
@CutchuSlow I get your point and I dont disagree on Sonys tactics. But that last bit. Trillion dollar company trying to keep themselves alive in a market? Nah. They are just trying to buy competitive advantage same as Sony, but on a bigger scale.
GamePass’s future will be Redfall quality.
Sony is in this position for one reason, arrogance, just like their overpriced tvs. They have done everything to kill the competition with exclusive deals, money hatting, paying for games to not be on game pass, buying up studios (oh yeah right, they nurture their studios.) Time for the religion to wake up. Sony messed with the wrong company with more resources and money that is more diversified and stronger financially. Poor Jimbo.
Internally at Sony:
First of all M$ will try to give Sony a smaller share. Phil clearly doesn't react on an email from Sony so there will be a stand off and it wouldn't surprise me if Sony says, if we can't have the 30% you can't put it on our platform and M$ walks away. Result: no CoD for PS and no $$$ for M$.
If they come to an agreement and we get to PS6 (or pro) Sony won't give them a developer kit until the hardware is released resulting in a horribly optimized game.
Sony will buy more studios and will try to build a game that beats CoD.
Internally at M$:
So many studios, so little talent to manage them. Being forced to add more (streaming)platforms to the already heavy workload leads to talent leaving the company.
More games on GamePass leads to less third party studios releasing games on the Xbox platforms. There will be hardly a business case that makes sense as more will be played on GP and even less games will be bought. M$ is creating their own Nintendo construct and Sony will have a lot of third party games exclusively on their platform as a result.
I don't want to analyze the business + financial prospects of these corporations, I want to enjoy some amazing innovative games and move on.
If Microsoft, Sony, Blizzard, whoever makes amazing games, I will enjoy. If not, I will move on.
Phil Spencer says more games on more systems and to more people. That is as long as you're not on a Sony console. I can see more MS attempted purchases and the price of game pass going up as those many places to play mandate a game pass subscription.
Sony can counter with their exclusives that are as good or better than games lost from MS purchases, or as what I would love to see happen. Sony purchases Ubisoft and Take-2 and thumb their noses at MS. Then Jimbo announces that games that will still be on Xbox will be a game by game decision, but that RDR3 and GTA6 are Definitely not coming to Xbox.😛😛😛😛.
The only reason the deal is going to pass is because Microsoft has been paying off politicians. Sorry, "lobbying".
I feel like Sony will likely see a fall in revenue from this but I don't think it'll affect them in any astronomical way.
Hopefully Sony has another showcase soon showing all the good games they've been hiding during this litigation!
@Jaxx420 i mean in the gaming bit. If xbox doesn't sell well, they could shut down the xbox department. So they are trying to do something to keep going.
@CutchuSlow like what they did to mixer
@CutchuSlow Oh poor MS how will they stay alive with their trillions. Fun fact Sony started getting more agressive with deals and such the moment MS started their big spending spree. Also MS do way more timed deals or 3rd party exclusives then Sony do, every month i see games appear on the Xbox store and GP that don't appear on PSN. Sony do timed and 3rd party exclusives because they don't have the money to just buy Bethesda or Activision so they fall on that, its a tactic all console makers have done for decades however MS decided to change the game by just buying up massive 3rd party publishers. You think MS will stop now? No they will buy another and another until they are forced to stop. MS cry that Sony may have bought exclusively of Starfield while ignoring the fact they can outbid Sony on any deal they make. MS are not victims they're just the bully who acts like the victim.
@NoCode23 Sony can't afford Take-Two, they couldn't even afford the price of GTA 6 timed exclusivity
@WallyWest yeah but that's not going to kill playstation, is it? Nothing xbox do will ever kill playstation. Only PlayStation can kill themselves.
@twitchtvpat what's mixer?
Sony should just cut any further Activision games that they haven't made a deal for and just let MS have them exclusively from now on. That 10-year plan is just a prolonged advertising campaign for Gamepass going forward.
Sure it'll hurt the Sony coffers and some players will go to team green permanently (good riddance honestly) but think of it like ripping off a band-aid instead of slowly peeling it off - a short moment of pain compared to long torture.
It'll end up shrinking COD and Activision's popularity considerably long-term and that would be superduperamazing.
@kyleforrester87
Agree Sony could use a kick in the pants, I just wish it was a different way than another big third publisher getting bought by MS.
@Splat do you have a source for gamepass is losing money? All evidence points to it being profitable.
@CutchuSlow I mean 3rd party deals fund the exclusives, those deals fade when MS owns most of gaming and those 3rd party games only stay that if MS wants them too. Yes MS could crush Sony if they were allowed, those emails weren't what ifs all that was leading men from Xbox discussing a way of eliminating Sony from gaming. This is what MS does and they have a history of doing tactics like this. The Judge what allowed this should not have been the Judge due to a massive conflict of interest and i wouldn't be shocked if her son gets promoted sooner or later.
@Perturbator This is why random people from PushSquare comments sections aren't running billionaire corps.
@WallyWest calm down, it's only activision. And they aren't trying to crush anyone. You are just being paranoid.
@CutchuSlow I said they could not that they will. Yeah we should be worried as in the space of a few years MS has swallowed up two of the biggest gaming publishers out there, corporations swallowing up so many smaller ones in so little time is never a good sign.
Funny though because one look at the film industry right now should tell you why MS shouldn't be allowed to have Activision. The film industry is failing right now and its largely down to giving corps like Disney free reign on spending and allowing streaming to run rampart.
Honestly I think everyone wins here except PlayStation. Players will finally be able to play CoD and Diablo games on GeForce Now and XBox Cloud. There are already plenty of amazing PS exclusives but MS needs to buy studios that can make their exclusives and that’s fine. Nintendo and Sony are too far ahead with their exclusives for MS to catch up any other way, and a 3 horse race is best for consumers. CoD itself is a great franchise, but not substantially better than Battlefield. I’m also glad that these games will come to Game Pass. I like subscription models especially with games costing $70-100 now.
I mean for the next few years nothing crazy will change.
The momentum for PS5 is just too high now. It will dominate the generation as the PS4 did before it.
What’s more interesting is what will happen with the PS6 and Next Xbox. That’s when this thing will really start to hit Sony.
Love how everyone flips the switch so quickly, when the deal was uncertain it was all spreading misinformation/being ignorant to business regarding exclusivity that would never in a million years be viable/make any business sense, now everyone is all "it don't matter" or "won't affect playstation"
Really going for Activision seems to me like the wrong move because call of duty sucks and so do the other games under them, should have gone for 2K or EA for the sports games.
Playstation continues to launch AAA games that sell millions of copies and are awarded multiple GOTY awards. MS continues to squeeze out one or two turds a year while Blizzard/Activision games die on the vine because they are reduced to a third the number of consoles they were being released upon before because as proven, MS can't manage their studios. And Gamepass is further devalued by games like Diablo 4 becoming free to the small number of Xbox players out there. Cutting out the 100 million+ PS gamers is a bad move. But that's all MS is capable of doing.
Call of Duty is popular but it’s also old. There are more PlayStations than Xboxes so if you are Sony you need to build a Call of Duty killer/replacement.
Turns out Sony already have an ip that can do that in SOCOM. Change the series into a COD like game with some SOCOM twists. Perhaps make this a F2P title that instead is built upon and focus solely on the multiplayer.
No reason at all that Sony can’t use this to their advantage as they’ll have a sizeable install base of players who might sooner try a new product before buying an Xbox for an old one.
Not a lot as it happens. Microsoft know that the CoD market on PS is massive and will be wanting some returns on that deal.
At the same time there isn’t really anything else from Activision they’re going to miss. Overwatch 2? Crash Bandicoot? Spyro the Dragon? Do me a favour.
Microsoft’s big play was King, because $80bn is a small slice of the console pie but a big one on mobile. Those are the revenues they want streaming into their coffers.
What will be interesting is seeing if Sony retaliate. They already took away their only chance of redeeming Halo. I do wonder if they will start to sew up the Japanese market a little more. Square Enix have got to be awfully tempting. Promise to keep releasing games on Nintendo platforms and that will sail through regulation.
@Total_Weirdo M$ can’t save activision they can’t even save themselves . rare is still dead & they let their flagship series (halo) fall off hard
Hopefully it will improve Playstation. Competition is always good and they need a stronger Xbox to keep them on their toes.
@SoapMonki
Why? Nintendo had the opportunity to buy Rare and declined. After that it was either MS or (ironically) Activision who bought them. Thing is, a lot of people had left Rare from their 1998 peak and Nintendo had probably seen the decline in Rares output coming.
@CutchuSlow
There’s a lot of people being very paranoid about this who simply aren’t reading the market properly. This got through only because Xbox is in third place and only then with a huge amount of concessions. Any subsequent big deals would be even more difficult to get past regulators.
The line about spending Sony out of the business was one email from one guy in 2019, and within context of stopping Sony/Amazon and the like from dominating the market. But now it’s getting all twisted out of shape.
@WallyWest
Sony may not have enough money to purchase Take-2 and or Ubisoft, but apparently MS does. What is next for MS? Where is the next destination of their caravan of Brinks trucks?
@WallyWest Ok, Mr. 2500 comments not-so-random Push Square comments Wally West.
Tell that to Hi-Fi Rush, Redfall and Starfield. We KNOW Microsoft nixxed the PlayStation versions of these in-development titles.
There is an important distancing between their words (We're not trying to take game away from other platforms etc.) and their actions (taking away games from other platforms). Expect the same where it makes financial sense.
But it will take 5-10 years to REALLY see the impact of this deal. Plenty of time for Sony to take the L and improve their own business.
Well that's all those Devs down the toilet then.Once they've realised they're just going to beocme part of a bland churn machine I guess they'll be jumping ship. After all games require creativity, inventivness, and a sense of fun, things M$ can't buy but it can crush under the sheer weight of it corporate blandness.
So much salt in the comments, sony should just accept the microsoft deal like nintendo, steam, nvidia and others already did.
@electrolite77 I really struggle with this line of thinking. Like, I understand the perspective, but it really shouldn't take a $69 billion buyout funded by a trillion dollar titan to create competition in an industry where Nintendo and many other overlapping entertainment mediums exist.
Alas, this is where we're at, I suppose. I just really despise this "trillion dollar underdog" mindset. Microsoft has had ample opportunity and resources to compete over the past 20 years.
except for diablo, i dont think i play much activision or blizzard games.
played a ton of call of duty and overwatch years ago, but i dont have the time or dedication to go back at an online shooter. or online whatever.
So this probably wont affect me much.
Still bad for COD fans on playstation, if it ever change anything.
not to mention to add , a lot of people have left big studios to create their own new studios. i think sony would be better off investing into new start up studios from those people then buying up the big studios. the only big studio i think they should buy is square , imo. i think they have really promising studios in firesprite and asobi.
It will be interesting to see what game pass does to CoD sales.
Hopefully Sony finally makes a new Killzone or SOCOM.
Sony just need to get a new Resistance, Killzone, MAG or SOCOM in development. An incredible amount of IP in their vaults that they just sit on.
What will be the new price point of game pass with Act/Blizz games added in?? If I ever feel I have to, I will buy a Xbox as a second console! The next problem will Microsoft cut budgets to the games from Act/Blizz to make them fit into there game pass model.
@CKFilms Yep. No reason with their skill they can't create a CoD competitor. I always liked Killzone better than CoD anyways.
Surely we've all heard of Battlefield? COD was always inferior and won't effect my 1st person purchases.
Besides, I didn't buy a PS for its 1st person games. With God of War, Uncharted, Last of Us, & Spiderman, plus their close relationship with Square Enix for Final Fantasy, resident evil, silent hill, they're going to have a huge fan base over the next 10 years, no matter what MS does.
Do we really think that companies like EA, Rockstar are just gonna stop putting their games out on consoles with huge user-bases, and PS has built up a huge loyal group.
With the punters PS have, and a bit of shrewd business, I can see a square Enix deal in the cards and a hugely successful 2040 onwards for PS too, no matter what MS do.
There's also still a huge portion of gamers out there that aren't buying into the subscription model and the gamepass stalling in America is evidence of that. People still want ownership of their games. Sony don't need to do what MS do... MS and activision can have their cloud based game services for mobile devices, and Sony should keep doing it their way!
There’s just too many unknowns but I’m pretty sure the ten year deal was MS’s strategy just to get the deal over the line.
Doubt CoD will be available elsewhere or at least have parity after that time is up.
Blizzard has call-ops and lots of games. Microsoft has far more users than Sony's exclusives, if they add users to Bethesda's games and Diablo, StarCraft, Overwatch, and Warcraft. Sony will continue to sell call-ops, but the more they sell, the riskier. The console wars will rage again in the future.
@get2sammyb
I agree it shouldn’t, but that’s where we are. Pretty much the only consistent thing that’s happened throughout the life of the Games industry is platform holders getting complacent and arrogant. Anything that helps preclude that (and I’m not alone in sensing some of that from Sony recently) is welcome. The vast majority of what they’re trying to buy here won’t really impact the Console sector anyway-they want WOW, Overwatch and Candy Crush most of all. Hopefully what leverage they will gain in the Sector will pull Xbox closer to my ideal scenario where the 3 platform holders have 33.3% each.
@cuttlefishjones
As opposed to being part of the renowned church of innovation and originality that is (checks notes) Activision?
There was a report recently that In 2021, over 1 MILLION PlayStation players ONLY played Call of Duty on their PlayStation and nothing else, and 6 million PlayStation gamers spent 70% of their time only playing Call of Duty.
If I was one of those players with the choice of getting the game on Gamepass for free on day one that might persuade me to change from PS to Xbox.
Perhaps it'll be like when Disney acquired Lucasfilm and Pixar, where it starts as a gradual decline before hitting a point of maximum free fall, destroying previously good IPs with shovelware sequels.
"After all, we’re all viewing this deal through the lens of being PS5 and PS4 owners, so it’s worth discussing." - Actually, no, I'm viewing this through the lens of being a console gaming enthusiast in general, owning a Switch, PS4, several PS3s, a couple of Xboxes including a One X, PSP, PS Vita etc. I own mostly Sony stuff (not just consoles but AV equipment in general including 3 of their better TVs over the years).
Personally I think this will be one of those things where everyone makes it out to be a huge deal at the time then a year later when no serious waves have been made, Microsoft haven't single-handedly killed the video games industry etc.
Politicians bought and paid for by Microsoft. Unbelievable. They literally had an email saying "we will spend Sony out of business", also remember they bought Bethesda they said "Future Bethesda games will be on Xbox, PC, and "other consoles on a case by case basis." - then later Elder Scrolls & Starfield won't be on Playstation. They aren't spending $69 BILLION to let Playstation keep playing Activision games #duh! And Activation OWNS rights to Crash Badicoot! That was Playstation's mascot, it be like Microsoft buying rights to Mario! SMH. Small chance FTC is appealing, but I bet the next judge is also in Microsoft's pocket or ignorant to gaming industry.
@WallyWest Sony was gonna pay Starfield for 1 YEAR exclusive rights, Microsoft Locked it down forever (so far it seems), if Microsoft did the same thing and made Playstation wait a year I'd be perfectly ok with that I'm a PS5 owner & I could wait. But, Microsoft is playing dirty - if you know their history should come as no surprise.
I don't play COD because it got expensive. There is a new one every year. The campaign is short and then multiplayer is always short for me. Competition is aggressive and people are rude. And of course cheating.
But if all previous COD and new ones are free on game pass I would play them way more. Also more people to bring back and work on sidelined franchises. Tony Hawk 3-4 remaster and Guitar Hero are on top of my mind. I think there would be a push to get WOW fully converted to a console. These would be huge draws to Xbox and Gamepass.
Appeal denied. It’s over. Learn to live with it.
@SgtTruth believe it or not not everyone lacks your patience. I have Playstation Plus Premium and i'm enjoying games from many Years ago lol. Just played Mafia 2. Waiting a year VS Never is obviously not the same. I prefer waiting. Unlike Day one buggy $70 games. When I wait I get them for a lower price, bug free, & often all DLC to boot. Doesn't matter if a game comes out today or 5 years ago - the 1st time I play = new to me
@Tlotoxl why though. that doesn't make any sense. You are not getting it 'for free' you're paying a monthly subscription fee. which is a lot more expensive than just buying COD if that's the only game you play
Nah Cod still be playable on Playstation. And Playstation is such a strong brand it doesn't need CoD to survive. People are now acting as if the world is ending with this takeover. But it's actually kind of sad. Suppose Sony would take over EA or Take two, then gta 6 will also come to Xbox. Because it makes millions.
Of course, there is one other option available to M$. "COD will be available on PlayStation" but they don't mention which generation (that we believe in - J Ryan Esq.)
Just saying, PS4 could be around for some time yet...
@grimgaming
Firstly I don't pay for Gamepass, MS rewards has paid for my Gamepass for the last 18 months & I'm paid up for another 5 months to come.
Secondly if you only play Call of Duty then you obviously play online so you are going to have to pay a PS+ subscription to play online anyway
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