Sony will reportedly release an upgraded PS5 Pro hardware model in November 2024, according to a report from Tom Henderson, who’s successfully leaked PlayStation’s hardware plans in the past. The Insider Gaming scribe – this time writing for Key to Gaming – accurately outed the Japanese giant’s Remote Play streaming handheld Project Q prior to its official unveiling, and has had inside information on a variety of other products, including its line of INZONE headphones.
Internally, the platform holder is purportedly referring to its supercharged system as Project Trinity, which aligns with other Matrix-inspired codenames it’s used in the past, like Neo for the PS4 Pro and Morpheus for the original PSVR. The PS5 Pro has apparently been in active development since 2022, with most studios allegedly scheduled to receive devkits by November 2023 at the latest. That’s all ahead of a reported November 2024 launch.
Henderson does allude to some specifications – including 30 workgroup processors – but admits he has a lack of “technological prowess” and that details have been “hard to pin down”. Nevertheless, he mentions that the upgraded system will aim for improved framerates in 4K resolution, optional 8K modes, and accelerated raytracing. All of this seems reasonable, and is largely what we’d expect from a hardware refresh at this stage.
There’s no mention of a target price, but understandably it’ll be more expensive than the base PS5 console. Obviously, with the lack of true new-gen exclusives this generation, many will be questioning the purpose of an upgraded hardware model, but we wouldn’t say no to a better looking GTA 6, at 60fps in full 4K, with improved raytracing – would you? Microsoft, for its part, has said it has no plans for an upgraded Xbox this generation; Sony, apparently, does.
[source keytogaming.com]
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Hope so, I can finally ditch pc for a while.
Seems kind of pointless, although I think the same was said prior to the PS4 Pro as well. I ended up really liking my Pro (aeroplane noises aside)
My main problem with this would be that there are still a lot of great games that don't even have PS5 version yet (RDR2, Bloodborne, TLOU 2).
Wonder how much it will be priced at and what the base system will be lowered to.
I'm still not really convinced we've seen the best of the PS5. Outside of a very small handful (hand halfful?) of games most of what we have are essentially PS4 Pro Pro games. Diablo 4, Resident Evil 4, Street Fighter 6, Lies of P, Horizon, etc. It's all just shaping up to make the PS5 this weird middleground when it was supposed to be a leap. I feel like it'll be looked back on as a weird transition rather than its own generation. I'm still in the habit of expecting games to have the PS4 badge on them on the PSN Store and being pleasantly surprised when it has the PS5 badge instead.
I did just get a PSVR2, though, and while I love the headset and the games I've played so far, it's kind of a drag that some of them run at 60fps with spacewarp, rather than native 90/120. Maybe the PS5 Pro will let them run at a real 90/120.
My conspiracy theory is that FFXVI was developed with a PS5 Pro in mind. Hence the option to unlock the framerate despite it not really being much 'better' than 30fps
Haven't really seen what the ps5 can do when it stretches it's legs on UE5 etc.
Seems like a big mistake for Sony and/or Microsoft to release a mid gen refresh when taking that into account
If it was this year I'd say no way, not needed. The current model is fantastic.
But November 2024 is a good distance away so plenty of time to put funds aside for it, and by then it would be 4 years since the PS5 launch.
Yeah I'd definitely consider getting one next year.
I remember loading up Uncharted 3 on my PS4 Pro and not expecting much of a difference but being very happy with the results.
I’ll wait for them to actually show some games that take advantage of the new hardware before considering an upgrade. I’m perfectly happy with the base model as is.
In the article it says the rumoured new model for this year is not a slim and is to to replace the current one. I would be a little disappointed if it just looks the same as it does now with the only difference being the detachable drive. Part of the reason I haven't got a ps5 yet, is because I hate the design, also if the new design for this year is similar in shape and size as it already is, then the pro one next year must be massive lol.
N.i.c.e. i got my ps4 pro in 2017.i will get the ps5 pro when it comes.word up son
Trinity, as it will be the third PS5 type on the market? Even if it's actually the fourth with the rumoured modular disk one 🤔
I really want to know why trinity is the codename now 😬😁 maybe the new model, with modular disk attachment, the Pro and a Handheld become the Trinity of PS consoles.
Or maybe that Unreal 5 Matrix test was turned into a PS5 exclusive full game and is released at the same time 😅
Or maybe it will be triangular, and look like The Green One from Quality Street 😁
More conspiracy theories and random guessing please PushSquare users, nothing better to add to hype than wild theories and silly guesses
I did get sucked into upgrading from a PS4 to a Pro but if I'm honest, other than doubling my internal storage it did kinda feel like a complete waste of time and Money.
If a PS5 pro does eventually exist (and chances are it will) then count me out.
I Won't fall for the same trick twice
I'm all for it. Imagine it can do 60fps at 4K solid, even better with RT.. that would be amazing.
Honestly, that sounds like just about the right date for this. I got my PS5 at launch, and it's been great, but a year and change from now I may actually be ready for an upgrade.
At what cost? A PS5 is still 'expensive' for a Console and I don't really want to be forced to buy a separate Disc drive as well if they remove it to 'keep costs low' and hit those who still want and buys Discs with an 'expensive' peripheral...
I'd be OK with a redesign because the OG PS5 is a monstrosity!
Yep ps5 pro still nearly 18 months away if its true,but by that time it'll probably be a great upgrade for gamers that want one ,I did get a ps4 pro and thought it was worth the upgrade ,so I shall get ps5 pro as well because you can never have enough power when it comes to games
Maybe Final Fantasy 16 can actually run at a constant 60fps on that thing
I am still playing on a 1080p screen so im not sure this is for me 😅
The ps4 had a far bigger selection of games out before the pro was introduced whereas i dont think the ps5 has really had that amount of time to stretch its legs so to speak. That being said hope the ps5 pro retains the modular feature regarding the disk drive.
"As far as specs are concerned, those, according to the report have been tough to obtain. However, two things that we do know are that the PS5 Pro will feature 18,000 MT/s memory and 30 WGP (workgroup processor)."
This all nonsense. These systems are using custom built unified memory modules that is shared between the CPU and GPU, they aren't comparable to consumer ram, so the on-paper spec doesn't actually mean anything.
"Performance targets for the PS5 include improved frames per second (FPS) as well as better FPS stability performance at 4K resolution, an 8K “performance mode”, and accelerated ray tracing."
This is also such obvious nonsense it's laughable. "Improved FPS", really? The current PS5 is more than capable of running everything on it at a high and consistent framerate, it's not on the hardware, it's on the developer to properly optimize their games. And 8K, not a chance in hell. A 4090 can't do 8K at playable framerates, but this sub-$1000 console is able to? Get ready to see 720p upscaled to 8K using terrible FSR (and I say that as an ardent AMD guy, but DLSS is superior in every way).
So when are we going to get 4k@60fps games??
@Member_the_game Yea i mean I got an Xbox One X and whilst it was nice to have a boost in resolution; a couple of years later the Series X was out and so all in all I don’t feel it was worth it. Not going for any mid-gen consoles this time no matter which side it’s on.
Plus it will make the eventual jump to next-gen even better.
I mean 4 years after the original model is a pretty big gap so I'd be ok with that
Resolution and raytracing wise, I couldn't care less. However, this should ensure more stable and higher framerates and I'm all here for it.
How about stop making games for the PS4 and just concentrate on the current PS5?
Interesting in regards to the competition.
MS have stated they have no intention of a mid gen upgrade. The Series S is starting to look like a millstone round their neck in this regard - a mid gen upgrade would leave it looking further underpowered and potentially leaving it behind.
I wonder if MS has painted itself into a corner.
Personally, I've already upgraded from S to X, and I'm okay with the prospect of not having a further upgrade carrot dangled in front of me and my overburdened bank account.
Not a huge fan of mid-gen upgrades. Before them, developers used to wring every ounce of potential out of the hardware available. Some of the late gen efforts I remember on the PS2 for example were stunning.
The modular nature and power of modern PC's has enabled developers to become a bit lazy in their coding.
Consoles are constantly playing catch up.
I'm getting one! Then the old PS5 is being push into the bedroom.
@IronMike when the PS5 Pro comes out.
My body is ready!
Not short of money, and love my tech. Have owned every Playstation since a Japanese import PS1 back in 1994, so I'll be buying this Day 1 if I'm able to find stock.
I still don’t see the point of this.
Games are still going to be compromised by bad development practices.
Madness, we literally have a handful of true blue PS5 games, and they've maybe not really pushed the PS5 as far as it can go, The PS4 had a solid catalogue of PS4 only games when the Pro came out, so I could see the point of it, esp as some of those games were pushing the limits of a PS4 standard.
To me it just seems like greed and a massive smack in the face to everyone whose finally been able to get one after 2 years consistently low availability, and im assuming 4K 60fps with Raytracing as standard would be the main push, but I dont think that will justify the price they would presumably ask for it.
Just seems like the wrong time imo, gives off bad vibes really.
I can see happening but not sure why? 4K 30fps or 60fps 1,800p is just fine for me. Raytacing is such a waste of resources
@TheCollector316 is your wallet and your soul 😇😉
Would prefer more PS5 exclusive games. How many are there?
I am still reeling from the May showcase and the Factions 2 semi-cancellation. I was an enthusiastic PSVR2 buyer just 5 months ago; Sony needs to show me that I've got something to look forward to. If they can't, Starfield is going to be my gateway to being mostly on PC.
Nooo Sony, dont give another reason for the devs to be lazy. We see now how spider man 2 will look like (we also remeber ghost of tsushima on ps4pro). This shows that with current tech mirracles can be done. Ths PS5 is still not utilized at all.
The OG PS5 will then replace the PS4 as the base model that games are developed for hopefully.
Not a fan of this. Ps4 pro made sense with 4k tvs becoming standard but this feels like a cash grab. Put the resource into an incredible ps6 and release it late 25, early 26
Why? Seriously, the only reason for the Ps4 to have one was due to a format change with TVs. We don't have that this gen. Just refine games to work better on what we have until it is pushed to it's limits like every other console.
They don't produce enough exclusives anymore to justify this, and they all end up on PC anyway at this point. If I wanted to continually upgrade my hardware, I'll just jump ship to PC. We're being milked!
1440p and 60 fps is enough for me, I rather have smaller ps5 rather than ps5 pro.
This really doesn't make much sense in financial terms. Like really, the hardcore PS fans will invest. But decent availability just started to get good. And there haven't been many next gen games out. Because of the PS4 support. Which now looks like is being slowly phased out for games. And the economy really stinks for buying power. At least on Canada, it is.
As long as the base PS5 can keep hitting a solid 60 fps with a decent resolution, I'll just stick with it. I just upgraded the GPU in my PC this last spring and I've been playing so much Splatoon 3 that I can't really justify a Pro PS5 at this time.
I'm personally not convinced. Bar a small handful of games, we haven't seen much take full advantage of current consoles. Dont know
@Ravix Maybe you'll be disappointed but it seems Sony are just big fans of the matrix. The codename for the Ps4 pro was Neo and the PSVR2 was called Morpheus.
I'd rather new Nintendo hardware tbh
If we can get 4k, 60fps in quality mode with RT, I'll be all over this.
If this turns out to be true, I'm not sure how I feel about it right now. Gut reaction is I have no interest right now as I'm perfectly happy with my PS5 (my problem is with their tech team managing the UI, not the system itself). It is true that some games struggle to run at a high resolution and 60 FPS, but I still find it hard to believe it's truly the console's fault and not mostly the developers. Sony first party studios like Guerrilla have proven that games can look beautiful and run at near rock solid 60 FPS (Horizon Forbidden West is still unmatched imo).
The console isn't even 3 years old yet, but people are already writing it off even though it always takes time for developers to really take full advantage of systems. There's no way that they are pushing the PS5 to it's limit already. Do I wish that Final Fantasy XVI could look as beautiful as it does in Graphics mode at 60 FPS? Sure, but again, I blame that on Creative Business Unit III and not the PS5.
It will depend on how far the PS5 Pro can go power wise and if Sony is finally not too lazy to make the console whisper quiet like the PS5 should be. I know some people say there console is, but as a whole it is not. Far better than the PS4 Pro in that regard, but it still could be whisper quiet if they put in the extra effort. Anyways, I can't say I'll be committing to this until we know far more, if it happens. Right now I'll continue to happily use my regular PS5.
@MrMagic aha, never knew that. At least there is a 'not really a reason' reason for it, no code to be broken 😂
If it exists, it'll be my third PS5, so a personal trinity 😅
I didn't trade in my PS4 Pro but I'll defenitely do so if I get a PS5 Pro. Maybe by the time it drops most games will have finally left last gen behind. How many PS5 only games have we actually gotten since release, I'm drawing a blank other than Ratchet & Clank and Returnal. They are prime examples of what could have been for a base PS5 when the Pro drops there should be no excuses for games not running and looking their best.
My stance is that the issues this gen are due to developers and not hardware limitations. For that reason it'll be the first gen that I flat out refuse to buy a hardware revision/upgrade until I see devs bothering to use it. First party titles seem to be pretty consistent but third parties have done little but muck around and smack 30 fps and 1440P on games.
Only way I splurge on this would be if Sony puts out a mandate that all games with a PS5 version run at 60 fps @ 4k as a minimum. Sony is notorious for tacking on absurd fees for devs, but I would 100% support this directive.
@Batsugun887 FF XVI was fine by me, even in performance mode. The games that really make me question hardware revisions are games from Team Ninja which have been absolutely vomiting out releases this gen and almost all have looked like a muddy bowl of vaseline and barely hit 30 fps at times. If a game looks good and plays well, fine. But we haven't seen much at this point to justify an upgrade.
As I mentioned previously, I'd love for Sony to mandate a 60 fps, 4k mode in all games. So far I've felt like a paying beta tester for most games this gen. Exceptions being Dead Island 2, Demons Souls, Returnal, Hogwarts Legacy and Final Fantasy XVI. If games are truly taking six or seven years to develop nowadays, hardware ought to reflect that.
Ah yes, just what we need. A pro model for a console that has around four actual exclusive games three and half years into the generation...
Yeah, no thank you. At this rate, I have literally no reason to buy this nor a PS6 for that matter. Live service games, a next-to-non-existent exclusive library, and insanely overpriced peripherals and accessories. It's been such a disappointing console at this point.
It's been a great generation for gaming, but I think I'm getting to the point where I would rather play my games literally anywhere else.
Totally in the market for this as I don’t want to choose between 4K and 60fps but as long as they don’t shoot themselves in the foot like Xbox with Series S, actually making it more complex and time consuming to develop and optimize games for the platform.
The good news is, I won't be tempted until sony gets it together and has enough stock to sort the scalpers problem... So, probably mid 2026. By this time we'll be talking about ps6 shortages coming up
@Swirly Amen. I fail to see the reason for investing in a PS5 Pro when, at the end of the day, I'm still locked into only playing my games in front of a TV. Nintendo's hardware is underpowered compared to other consoles, but the portability and flexibility of how we can play their ever-expanding library of exclusive games are completely worth the sacrifice. It helps that Nintendo releases a new exclusive game every single month when Sony struggles to get one or two games out per year... and a lot of those Sony games are starting to feel the same.
@JSnow2 Agreed. If you own a Switch and PC then you can basically play every single game out there worth playing. Throw in a Steam Deck and you're set for the next 5-10 years.
I will skip the slim or redesign and just sell my Digital base console and get the PRO. These rumors line up with the older rumor of the Pro coming in the same month as Switch 2. Switch 2 will sellout faster than than Nintendo can take the money to the bank.
I don't see how this is anything other than positive. Giving those who are more serious an option is great. If you don't like it you don't have to buy it. Devs have run into the limit much faster than in previous gens, mainly because the systems are very similar to their predecessors. There is no cell processor devs have to figure out how to squeeze the most out of, they already are quite familiar this time around and could put the extra power to good use. The guarantee of a 60fps future alone is worth it. The extra abilities may also lead devs to start approaching graphics options like PCs handle them. It would be great to be able to say "I don't care how great the clouds look or the density of foliage. Let me drop those down a bit to reach a solid 60 and/or 4k and/or RT. Maybe if I limit this option I could run the game at 40fps with RT." Having flexibility to play at the framerate you want or fidelity you want could be something we see with these more powerful options.
If this Is real ff16 can perform well but interestingly forespoken on ps5 has been updated with better settings resolution and framerate since launch so me thinks these games have room for optimization
I love the storage space on my ps4pro! It's why I play it more than the switch!
Eagerly awaiting the ps5pro so I can stop borrowing my friend's whenever he leaves town. But maybe... justify the purchase with games first.
Absolutely pointless getting one if you already have a ps5....but I might still lol
By the time the PS5 Pro comes out Microsoft might own every 3rd party developers out there.
I just wanna know how powerful it is compared to my current pc. If it's better than my PC, I can always sell my gpu for a better 1.
If consoles could have upgradeable parts. It would be so awesome.
@Snick27 nah. That won't be allowed. But they should be allowed to buy smaller dev teams.
At everybody asking for „4k with stable 60 fps“ or so: This is a design decision made by the developers! If the developers want to, they can make these games on base PS5. Or they can make 720p games with instable 30 fps on PS5 Pro.
Beside that, I am not looking forward to a PS5 Pro, because it will result in generally (!) worse optimization for the base PS5.
@NinjaNicky but you don't really buy it from sony if you buy it from amazon , target , walmart or bestbuy. i mean you can trade in your ps5 if you really want to , but you'll never really get a good deal for it.
@Snick27 And by the time either of them actually release a game Nintendo will have release their next console.
Sony 👏. Where 👏 are 👏 the 👏 games 👏?
I get tired of most games that aren't Football Manager these days and my PS5 is gathering dust. So it's a no from me. Fast forward 18 months... I'll probably still buy one.
While I understand that PS5 Pro will help improve performance like FFXVI having a more stable framerate, comparing Switch's lineup to both PS5 and Series X|S (it's also the case when comparing Switch to PS4 and XB1) makes me very uneasy about the continued quest for more powerful hardware.
PS4 Pro was developed to supply 4K visuals, perfect to take advantage of the rising tide of 4K TVs.
Don't know anyone with an 8K TV and there's nothing being broadcast in 8K. Heck, apart from Disney+, Netflix and Prime there's hardly anything in 4K streaming (looking at you 720p Now!)
4K@60fps would be a start as it looks like the current PS5 is struggling with this - hence the PS4 Pro Plus moniker that it's struggling to shake off.
They are finally moving on from PS4 and have not shown the full capability of PS5 games, which have been held back by PS4 versions. PS5 Pro seems too soon.
It has felt like they haven’t came close to utilizing the PS5, so I gave zero interest in a Pro version.
PlayStation in this day and age is nothing but a timed exclusive box. Literally get a handful of games that will be on pc in no time.
PS5 is real 😲 I’m not gona say a pup, but we were effectively sold a PS4.something
Completely unnecessary obviously since there isn't a single game now and in the next 2 years or so that utitilizes the full power of the current console anyway but will be the next step as predicted where nothing will get better/more beautiful but just have those pathetic dumb useless technical fps and resolution stats.
Instead of better quality we got the (almost) same quality with PS5 just with 4k textures (noone needs, makes nothing better looking just sharper), and with the Pro we still get exact same quality but with more frames then for the mainstream (who cries for texture resolution and framecount).
Instead of having, e.g. a more than enough 1080 resolution, more than enough 30 to 60 frames but have insane more quality.
Well, PS6 then maybe. Or no, wait, then all the power is wasted on 8k of course.
Anyway, will get it of course and sell my original PS5 so I always have the latest version and can sell it better whenever a new model comes out but yeah.
Can't wait for the first game that will actually move the current generation forward, maybe in 2 or 3 years
I hope the base harddrive will be replaceable like the PS4 I really don't like the harddisk on the mainboard especially when its done so so your PS5.
@SystemAddict Yeah no the thing runs great the the loading times, the smooth OS when switching between games alone is a night and day difference.
Trying to find sense to this rumor..
A complete and utter waste of resources on Sony's part.
Consoles are crap now, just pay a little extra and build a decent gaming PC as all Sony/Xbox exclusives eventually get released there, not to mention all the benefits that come with being on that platform. As for Nintendo, just emulate those Switch games.
I've never seen a generation of consoles so uninspiring in all my life.
I feel sorry for console owners, £70 games, 1 digital store (no competition), pay to play online, spoon fed what console Manufactures think you want, No 100% backward compatibility with previous generation of games, no option to set your frame rates for every game, poor warranties on hardware, no promises all your games will work with next generation of hardware...i could go on and on.
Time to give console manufactures the middle finger and jump ship. Console owners are being played like a fiddle.
It doesn't matter if you get ps5 pro. They still have to make the game for the base PS5, the extra graphics isn't going to be that much better. Get ready for those graphs PS5 base Vs PS5 pro.
@Flaming_Kaiser Sounds like you're describing a PS4 Pro with an internal SSD!
@x3King84 Given the PS4 Pro could run (sort of) 4K visuals at 30fps (higher in some cases), I didn't think it was too much to expect a doubling of that frame-rate but apparently the white wonder isn't up to the job? Been a let down so far...
@sanderson72 PS4 has the OS on the mainboard and you can switch out the hard drive does it not?
Have developers really pushed the PS5 to max yet because I really don't feel.thwy have. The specs on a PS5 are crazy I don't think we've seen the power cranked up to max yet BUT at the same time I'ma buy one if it hits shelves
@Nei you obviously don’t understand who the S is made for.
@Flaming_Kaiser I was more referring to your "Yeah no the thing runs great the the loading times, the smooth OS when switching between games alone is a night and day difference." comment but yes, the core of the PS4 OS is on EEPROMs but obviously it reserves some of the hard drive space for its own purposes.
A Pro with a good quality internal SSD (1TB Crucial MX500 is about £50 these days) just goes to show why the old stager is still more than clinging on - boot time is about the same as the PS5, load times are up to 2 times the PS5 load times and the UI is still light years ahead of the now 3 year old PS5. Shame they retired the Pro but perhaps they were concerned it'd take some of the shine away from the PS5.
@cburg To make you feel you spend less but i the end you are totally locked in nowhere to go I'm also kinda baffled with a fully digital console that you start with so little storage.
If existing 30 FPS modes will run at 60 FPS and existing 60 FPS modes will run 90-120 FPS then I'll be a happy camper! Would also love to see 3D Audio for speakers.
I'll be picking this up Day One!
I recall a poll PS did a little bit ago fo predicting when a new PS5 version would release. I mentioned late next yer to early 2025 while majority of people thought this year. It makes the most sense to not release an updated PS5 version because Sony is just now having enough consoles on shelves to keep up with demand. They would hurt themselves if they released it this year.
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