
We’ve known for quite some time that Sony, in its current guise, doesn’t care much for its core consumers – but overnight, it proved it. The platform holder nonchalantly announced price hikes to the annual tiers of its various PS Plus subscriptions – and these are significant jumps, not just minor alterations.
While the increase affects all territories, in the US you’ll now be paying $20 more for the basic PS Plus Essential tier, which is required to play online. To make matter worse, the manufacturer didn’t announce any plans to add new features, content, or improvements to the service. This is a major pricing increase without any reasonable justification.
Understandably, the response has been strong. In a poll we ran overnight, around 33 per cent of you said that you’ll be ditching PS Plus entirely when your subscription lapses. A further 21 per cent of you argued you’ll keep your current subscription but will drop down a tier. Considering Sony introduced the likes of PS Plus Extra and PS Plus Premium to maximise revenue, this seems like a disaster.
Of course, the proof will be in the pudding, and we’ll now need to see what impact this has on the company’s bottom line. It’s generally averaged around 50 million active subscribers, give or take a few, but we’re expecting – and, to some extent, hoping for – a drop-off here. A few extra dollars in a rough economy wouldn’t have been great, but would have been understandable – this increase, though, is simply beyond the pale.
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I do not play online...so with most of the so called free games if heavily discounted I all ready own anyway...so there is no need for me to throw money at something just to play games that "Sony" has decided I should play.
I don't think there will be any improvements to the service. Sony has a history of this kind of stuff and we all know it.
Take the PlayStation Link accessories for instance, $150 or $200 for a headset or earbuds, but these are the only wireless options for your PS Portal because they omitted Bluetooth in favour of a new proprietary tech and gave some vague reason as to why. It reeks of the Vita needing memory cards because they expect certain speeds, but turns out SD Cards work just fine thanks.
I'm willing to bet if we open the PS Portal, there's a Bluetooth chip in there.
I also expect, for the new PS5 revision, that the existing, expensive, Pulse headset the system launched with wont work, because it'll use PS Link accessories instead. So that'd be two seperate headsets in not even 4 years, all because.....reasons?
It's the same with PS+, its a price increase....because they can. Sure, Xbox just raised the price of Game Pass and PS+ works out cheaper yearly, but the value proposition you can argue isn't there for that highest tier compared to the highest tier of Gamepass.
But also, $80 a year to play online? What in the hell is this? It says something that people online are starting to look at the Nintendo Switch Online Expansion Pack Family Plan (For 8 people) and realise that's now the same price as as the base PS+.
When your traditional expensive and overpriced competitor is offering a bundle for 8 people at a discount to their highest tier for online and its the same price as you basic offering, there's something wrong.
If you're doing things with accessories that even Apple wouldnt do, there's something wrong.
Live services, increasing prices on consoles, games, services, locking you into new accessories by forced compatibility, it's all so unnecessary and yet here we are.
It's pretty clear the price increase is to get a good portion of the 50 million subscribers to stock up on a couple years subscription at current prices, raking in a ton of money.
Very few people are going to lapse, just get another year now while the price is cheaper
They know what they are doing
$160/year for premium. Why, you could almost buy a Switch Lite for that price. Or two fully priced PS5 games. Or ~20 games on sale for $5-15. Or just, like, a LOT of pizza.
@KaijuKaiser $20/year if you just wanna play online, but with added benefits. $50/year if you want a classics catalog that far outweighs Sony's classics offering. $80/year split between 8 mates and you still get everything.
It's still a rip off that you have to pay to play online — really feel like all three services would still have a market without gatekeeping online play. But it's easy to argue NSO is the only service still reasonably priced. Granted, it offers a lot less. But, unless you're exclusively gaming through GamePass/PS+, you're probably just sitting on their offerings most of the time.
@Haruki_NLI Christ you surely cant compare NSO with Psplus 🤣🤣
Yep complete BS. In Australia we have deluxe not premium so no streaming and after the increase Extra will cost more than Deluxe is now.
@Texan_Survivor I couldn't agree more. I've been considering upgrading my old PC for a while now and this may be just what I needed to make the jump.
Am I happy about having to pay more money, no! But do I understand why the price is going up, sure! It seems the cost of everything is going up so why wouldn't they increase it. Whilst I may not play games from the service every month, I have played inFamous, Stray, Split/Second, Key We, The Quarry, Ghostwire Tokyo, Syphon Filter and Super Stardust Portable this year. So I'm certainly getting value for money. And I've Sea of Stars downloaded ready to go once I have the time.
They're currently testing 4K streaming in beta so one could assume that'll be partly the cause for the rise in cost. But also surely they'll end up rolling it out to be able to stream direct from server on PC etc. So they'll likely "justify" the price increase at a later stage.
Having said all that I still think that services like this are going to negatively affect games in the long term. Xbox celebrating 3 Million players for Hi-fi Rush, but the completion rate is quite low. If only 1 in 10 people are seeing the end of your game why would you bother making a game that's longer than 3 or 4 hours long
As I said in the other thread, I think they're banking on renews offsetting and making more money in the end for them even in the event of the potential loss in subs as long as the sub loss isn't catastrophic and they get to set a new floor in the process. it's the latest Jim Ryan money squeeze.
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This is my last console. My pc is getting a new rtx and motherboard, just weighing up the options.
I don't think that the people here who have been licking Sony's boots quite understand just how much money that is. I could get every major subscription service going for that and still have money to spare. Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney Plus. The lot.
They had better have some nice upgrades in the pipeline because right now Sony has lost my Premium sub at the bare minimum.
@Texan_Survivor totally agree with your sentiment. Saved up enough to buy a halfway decent gaming laptop last year and my purchases for PS5 have taken a nosedive. It just feels like I’m being fleeced by Sony. Only time I buy ps5 games nowadays is for the rare exclusive or if I happen to see a physical game at a decent sale
@KaijuKaiser You also get the vouchers to be fair, which, for a new game at launch over on my side of the pond, is a pair of vouchers for £84 (Not including gold points for a discount).
If I was to go buy Smash and Tears of the Kingdom with those two vouchers, that's £120 worth of games for £84. I'd say that's a pretty good discount on any Nintendo published digital title.
But, that's not the point. And I do believe @Smiffy01 also missed the point at large, for 8 people to get the highest tier of NSO...is the same price as the base tier of PS+ for one person. Think about that. 8 people get online access for the same price as one on another system. Sure there are other perks around it, but when you really break down what this is, a fee to play online, that's not a good look.
You also seem to have missed the rest of the post, which is about Sony going full proprietary again and price gouging, simply because they can. It's gonna keep happening, it always does with every company, it's now a matter of how far are they going to go.
Now they arent even using inflation as a justification, there has been no justification, and the quality of the service thus far, which they are already getting more money for than they used to by the way, which they have openly stated, hasn't improved.
So what is this price hike doing? Nothing. And we all know it's simply for profit.
Someone posted this in the comments section of the blog post announcing the price hikes.
Current –> New (US)
Essential: $59.99 –> $79.99 (+$20 – 33.34%)
Extra: $99.99 –> $134.99 (+$35 – 35%)
Premium: $119.99 –> $159.99 (+$40 - 33.34%)
A 33/35% price hike is just plain extortion especially with no added benefits.
Jim Ryan has my full support.
After many years I went in and canceled the subscription which ends in November. I can live without multiplayer for a bit just to shove it the Sony. I hope people do the same just to make them realise the mistake of such an increase. $10 a year more yes, but not such an increase at once. People better not complain about pricing if they remain.
🔥 Breaking: Consumers don’t like paying more. 🔥
The cost of living has risen significantly the last 2 years, this is a luxury service I can miss so I will not renew.
I'm out completely once my Extra sub is done, I don't use PS Plus enough to even justify even having essential tbh.
Prices rises are bad enough at the minute, companies the world over recording record profit whilst people struggle. It's price gouging, pure and simple. We accept it so it carries on.
Yes gaming is a luxury and PS Plus will be treat as such by me, hopefully many who are unhappy follow the same train of thought but I doubt it.
I've never been one to overly bash Sony, or any gaming company for that matter, they are business doing business things, you may agree with them, you may not. I own all 3 consoles at the minute, as well as a Steam Deck to scratch my strategy itch when needed, I'm lucky in that regard that I can afford to own them all, I certainly don't fanboy for any console neither, I'm 38 ffs 😂
So it's not a negative on Sony, the state of gaming at the moment is down the toilet at the minute, in my opinion of course.
I have online for all 3 consoles, those days will be ending across the board, maybe with the exception of the Switch as the kid uses it a lot.
Once this gen has run it's course I'll be moving over to PC, Sony hasn't wowed me this gen (same can be said for XBox although I am looking forward to Starfield), there have been a couple of good exclusives but to be honest it's nothing that I couldn't wait to play on a PC down the line.
I don't play competitive multiplayer but I do use PS+ for cloud saves and occasional co-op.
At £60 per year (essential) I can stomach it. If it goes any higher than that they can shove it. When gaming goes full services I'm out anyway. Got a big enough library of current and retro games to last a lifetime and a big backlog for years to come.
I rarely use my PS5, but I still like having cloud saves. There's just no way I can justify keeping this. It's truly a shame that PS is a brand I have loved so much in the past, and they have just become my absolute last choice for gaming over the past few years.
Unsubscribing. Most games I play multiplayer on are on Xbox so I'l just subscribe to the much better Game Pass.
I could understand an increase of £5 or even £10 but this is ridiculous.
I pay monthly so this doesn't affect me personally as there's no price increase on the 1 month and 3 month subs, I do think though that if they up their game and include better games then im sure that would settle some people down.
Will be interesting to see how this affects all their live service games that they are planning in the pipeline?
@PSme Well if they want their live service games to do well then they should remove the PlayStation plus requirement, especially if they are free to play.
@deathaxe normally, I'd agree, but Sony is making record profits over and over again. There is no excuse for this.
Im a huge sony fanboy.(have had all the playstations from 1-5) but i also have a gaming pc. I usually favor the ps5 at all times. But this is it. Now im going to play every game i can on PC, only using the console for the exclusives. And i dont play multiplayer so F*CK ps plus
@UltimateOtaku91 I honestly think they don’t care. Majority of ps users don’t want live service games, single player only. But hey! Sony pushing on with live service.
I am currently subbed on extra to September next year but now considering not subscribing to anything after its done. I don't really play anything online apart from fortnite which you don't need plus for. The cloud saves are useful and if I get rid of plus would reduce my backlog a bit!
Sony deserves the backlashes.you gave the worst psplus ever and you increase the prices of psplus.its ridiculous.word up son
I wasn’t too upset about this initially but the more I think about it I don’t think I will use the service enough to get my moneys worth. I like having it but I don’t really play online and the monthly updates are so hit and miss I don’t think it would be worth it in the long run. This is a big price increase so I don’t think I’ll renew even for essential. Can always go back if I really miss it
@VanguardKaiser The USA price hike is really odd. In the UK it's only £10 / £17 / £20 for the 3 tiers or around 20% for each. While no one likes a price hike, personally it still offers good value for me.
@Texan_Survivor I take your points. But I'm sure I remember you, and others, saying this before on other price increases, that Sony was pushing you to PC. I suspect you, and many others, will still be here next time the console cycle comes round. Reality is most people play on console because it is more convenient than PC. Or is this the final straw that broke the camels back?
No one is forcing u guys to pay for this u can do monthly or quarterly. For people who can pay the yearly they have income they just throw around some people can do that some can't. We don't know what Sony is doing. Sit and wait see if they announce anything new which I think they are going to.
@themightyant if u go to PC kiss your physical copies bye bye PC is all digital
I defo won't be staying on the highest tier... ridiculous... probably the lowest simply so I can still play multiplayer...sigh
PS5 was sold months ago. Disgusting what Jim Ryan has done to this company. Bought a Switch OLED and have had a fantastic time.
@Pranwell
No, cause the Switch pro controller lasts longer than 5 mins before needing a charge 😆
@Moonvalley_PS when the last time Nintendo put their digital games on sale never I think it crazy Mario is still 60 dollars it been out since switch releases
@Slayer25c
Reverse is also true, when was the last time a Sony exclusive held its value longer than 6 months?. See i can sell a copy of Mario Odyssey from 2017 for 50$, enjoy the 7$ for GoW Ragnorak.
Some fairly big mission statements made in this thread. Chances are most of you will still be here commenting on the next price jump too 🤣
@Moonvalley_PS who giving u 50 dollars for Mario better not be GameStop lol
@Slayer25c
Ehh well i was exaggeration a bit but my point was buying nintendo games physical is great because their game's prices drop very slowly compared to Xbox/PS. Sort of a poor man's investment.
@themightyant @VanguardKaiser Yes, as a US resident I’m baffled at why we’ve been targeted at a higher clip. Don’t forget, our prices don’t have VAT build in, so we add another 8% (depending which state you live in) to the listed price. So for Extra (my current tier) I’ll actually pay $145 per year, which exchanges to £114. I feel like that’s an unfair difference.
Glad I spent $200 (AUD) on five years of PS+ through Turkey when the new tiers were announced!
@chucksneed same here I did 10 years
@RoomWithaMoose NSO still has NES, SNES and Gameboy games (some of the greatest games ever made) included with their online service. At around $1.75/month it is objectively better than...this.
Those games also don't leave after a year.
What Sony is clearly banking on, is people resubbing by the 6th and then forgetting all about this increase by the time it comes to renew in a few years time. They'll make a nice tidy profit now, and then people will be thinking about something else in a couple of years.
@TabulaRasa Right, but no one is saying they need justification in a universal sense. It is their service, and they can obviously raise prices when they want, and for whatever reason they want.
They do need justification if they want players to decide not to drop the service after a sudden price jump. Like you said: if you decide it is too much, you will drop it. Me too. If Sony doesn’t want a bunch of people to make the same choice, it needs to provide some reason not to. Personally, I am not sure what I get from Plus is worth it at this price.
@Slayer25c Nintendo discounts their first party games to $40 every now and then. 3 or 4 times a year. Nothing big but a discount none-the-less.
Why discount when your game is a top 10 sellers for 5 years straight? You don't.
The more I think about it the more the fact itself that we have to pay just to play online is outrageous. It's not like Sony is paying for servers, it's the darn developers and studios that pay for that. Sony has no right to charge us for access to online gaming.
Yeah, I sort of think this in conjunction with the live service push that Sony is brazenly taking could very well lead to a Sony crash of sorts… but I also wouldn’t be surprised if this is an evil-eyed move on Sony’s part to see if people panic rush to up their subs before announcing they’ve made the “thoughtful decision” to “adjust the price hike” to “listen to player feedback” that they “value deeply.” And then the price increase would mirror the Xbox rate hike. Sony is calculating like this… I’ve said it elsewhere, but without an improvement to this service AND Gamepass, I’m done with them both in June when my sub lapses. And I think a lot of people may be feeling the same way. These sub services just don’t offer THAT much. I’ve played through three games total on PS+ Premium and otherwise I’ve just sort of started a bunch of games and hopped off them? Same problem with Gamepass. It’s so rare I actually complete games I get with either service and I’m still buying tons of games. I say this as I’m loving Sea of Stars though….
Oh, and for everyone praising NSO in the comments, people have been trashing it and Expansion pass for so long and I felt like I was the only one that saw it as an incredible deal. It’s simple and cheap and totally worth it. The quality of games is over all really solid too. There’s a lot of junk on PS+ and Gamepass.
@Smiffy01 You are aware it is still possible to play PS games and comment in these threads without paying for PS Plus, right?
@Bamila u paying for Sony infrastructure for psn they started charging us for online after the great hack.
I only play Street Fighter online these days, and with crossplay being more and more prevalent, I will just play MP games on PC. Loads of free games there, I am grandfathered into not having to choose games on Humble Bundle, and MP gaming is free. Bought SF 6 on PC. I'll just be playing there from now on.
Sony can suck it with their price hikes.
I see a lot of folks saying the point of this is to get folks to load up on short term suns, which is an interesting angle I had not considered. But if that were true: Wouldn’t we get more notice than this? A week is not a lot of time for those subs to roll in.
I tend to think Sony is hoping that this will pass under the radar for many altogether, given the short notice and the fact the announcement was buried at the bottom of a post about the essential tier games for September.
@themightyant I agree mate, the usual pitchfork mob catarophising everything.
'They raised my sub price by £20, so now Im going to spend £100s on a PC so I can play 1080p games with awful stutter' It makes no sense. I spent £4.2k on a pc last year imagining Id be in gaming nivana, but Ive hardly used it cause the console experience is simply better for me.
I do understand that nobody should like or welcome price rises, but the level of reaction here is rediculous, and no doubt nicely flamed here by Push Squares usual rediculous articles.
@TabulaRasa I agree with you. I have been a member of Plus for a long time, but unless we get something more from the service, I think the cost finally outweighs the benefit for me.
They aren’t immune to us bullying them. We need to spam them on every social media until they reverse the decision. Corps have gone back on these sorts of things before due to massive backlash.
I had been a loyal PlayStation gamer, owning all the consoles from PSX -> PS4, including both handhelds.
When the new consoles were announced in 2020 I decided I'd try something new and bought three years of Game Pass (£120 on a deal) and a Series S.
If I'm honest I've been wildly underwhelmed. I played a bit of Destiny, thoroughly enjoyed Forza Horizon 4, and tried hard to get excited for Horizon 5. But ultimately came away feeling a bit 'meh'.
So with talk of a slim PS5 and my Gamepass sub due to expire in a few months, I planned to come back to the Playstation fold. But now I'm not so sure.
The whole aura around PlayStation at the moment feels very reminiscent of the early PS3 era - taking the community for granted.
I had Plus for over 10 years before I 'defected' so I have a bunch of value in subbing to the Essentials plan, but right now I just don't feel good about it.
@nessisonett idk if it would work look at Netflix people say they lose people when they started charging extra for people not living in your house they gain more members.
I've got the PS Plus due to discounts, I've never purchased at full price. I've got like 350 games, mainly from 3 years of PS Plus ownership, but I don't play online games, and as many commented here, most are very cheap games, so, it is useless. I rather upgrade my GeForce to the top tier, since I'm a founder member I get the same price for 12 months. So, I'm just buying games that take advantage of PS5 tech: 3D sound, haptics, VRR. 120Hz, etc.
Instead of buying a super PC, with GeForce I can get everything with raytracing and 120Hz, right in my iPad Pro or my Sony TV.
So, farewell PS Plus.
I just might drop to silver if it still exists. I don’t really play online. I’m on the extra tier right now and the only new game that I got was Stray so it’s really not for me vs gamepass. For new player it is pretty fantastic though
@Slayer25c Hey, I dropped Netflix because of that! If people don’t fight the good fight and stick to it, then the corporations win. They win only if the consumers capitulate.
@Westernwolf4 I think it’s a bit of both. Sony is being sneaky and seeing what they can get away with right before they set a course to adjust with a State of Play. There’s a logic at play here.
Though, if it’s the same logic that was at play for the Sony Showcase, we’ll see if it backfires…
I’m pretty angry about this. It’s a $30 price hike in Canada, making it cost about $100. I’m on a tight budget, and this throws a monkey wrench into the works.
But I can’t see a way not to keep my subscription to Essential. I don’t play online very much, but my niece — who I console share with — does, and even though we split the cost of Plus, this is still gonna have an effect. I also like having cloud saves, access to Plus games, and extra discounts. And I can’t switch to a competitor’s console, since I have thousands of games on my PlayStation account.
They’ve got me over a barrel here, and it feels gross.
@nessisonett I’m really hoping for this. I don’t use social media, but I did contribute to the dogpile in the comments section on the PSBlog post. So I hope the collective internet will help me with this.
I don’t condone harassment, but people will have to be loud about their displeasure about this price increase.
If I remember correctly, I think Microsoft went back on a similar price hike after the backlash. And Sony kept the PS3 and Vita stores open, after the backlash at the announcement of their closure. Here’s hoping it can be done again. 🤞
@Impossibilium if you aren't harassing individuals or partaking in criminal acts with a company - harassing companies is the very best option for them not taking advantage of people. It is the only weapon people have against unfair practice. Heck, even unions are basically designed around harassing companies to get what labor wants.
There are many examples of it working wonderfully. Give companies operating like this the respect they deserve - which is none.
About the main way users could send a possible message is to login to their preferences & switch off auto-renewal on their subscriptions.
Pretty likely there'll be enough data tracking in place to notice if users are turning it off. In my neck of the woods $96 for Essential whilst going up to $195 for Deluxe! 😱 Hate to think what Premium would be if they ever added streaming Down Under...as it stands,the paper thin PSP,PS1 offerings have been lacklustre with occasional exception & non existent PS2 & third party classics.
I'm ok with the price hike as long as you get something for it. I am assuming since Sony has not said anything that they are not providing additional features, games, etc. I will cancel next August if that is the case.
@Cashews precisely.
Also for those making excuses for billion dollar corporations, due to costs going up. I've got news for you, it's all a lie. These corporations are announcing record profits nearly unaminmously. Take a look at some of the earnings report transcripts of whichever corporate predator you prefer. They aren't even hiding the fact that they are price gouging intentionally behind the veil that was a very small period of base material scarcity and transport logistics 2 years ago that largely only affected select production processes in select industries.
They are lying to you, the news, lying to you. Whether it be gas, rent, or the goods and services industries; they are all raising prices together and doing so because they have spent a millenia or more building a system where you have no choice but to pay for every aspect of living within the confines of that system. Generation after generation of indentured servitude. This is why no amount of pageantry by the various financial bodies to correct this fake inflation is showing meaningful reaction from the markets. Because they are acting outside of the basic tenets of a market and it's just now more plain to see despite the free market system largely being a concept not adhered to for nearly a century. They aren't even trying to hide it anymore and actively gloat about their price gouging and record profits as many struggle to even afford gas and rent.
It's one thing to just lay back and take it or to passively hate it but feel helpless. Yet to actively defend your own victimization is just madness.
@Texan_Survivor I agree. I've been a console enthusiast since the Atari. Was Nintendo all the way through (SNES, 64 & GC, they lost me at Wii) until PS4 in 2017. I was surprised how many games I had available and had no doubt I would get the PS5 (my current system). But now I'm think that $650 (PS5 + ssd I'm getting now) should get me a decent start for a PC build. The only difference Sony has are the exclusives and you can get a 2nd hand console and exclusives and play them if you don't want to wait for PC release. I feel like Sony is trying to push away whoever isn't ready to blindly commit to them
@KundaliniRising333 if they don't feel the pain they won't change.
Right now - I'm a bit sickened at all of the people who caved into Microsoft's pre-release cost of Starfield. They charged 30 bucks to play the game 5 days early and if forums are any indication - many MANY people went along with this scam.
If the game is a blockbuster I expect all of the big companies to follow suit. Paying a large sum to play a game a few days early with the streamers (who don't pay one cent for the game at all mind you).
I've said this for over a decade - gamers, in general, are the most un-intelligent, worst consumer group that exists. Their addictions are as potent as cigarettes and heroin. They will take almost anything that is served to them no matter how foul it is. The industry is fully aware of this fact.
Anyone else feeling that PS+ is gonna get real real bad because of how many games extra and premium give us??
Because it feels as though this month ain't really great and it'll get worse because of the extra games and premium games giving out.
And didn't Xbox do this too their GOLD games every month were horrible when gamepass really start getting real.
Step 1 - raise the price but give a few weeks notice
Step 2 - watch everyone panic and stack years worth of a subscription because they perceive the original price as a "discount"
Step 3 - do the bare minimum with the service knowing that your audience has already locked itself into the service.
@Cashews it's funny you mention the starfield situation. I was literally just thinking about it this morning. I hadn't looked it up but just the idea that they claim it free on gamepass you push this play it early premium just doesn't sit right. I had no idea they were charging that much more for the early access. It's somewhat grown less apalling I think because they have quietly been moving toward a norm being paid early access for over a year now.
You aren't wrong in highlighting the bizarre cult like allegiance gamers have to their platform of choice. It mirrors the division and blind allegiant nonsense that is American politics quite a bit. I just don't understand the idea that if one likes a medium or even platform offerings at times, that they can't criticisize or push back when the platform does something that is largely focused on taking advantage of the fan base.
Sure gamin is a luxury, but it's just one aspect, a microcosm of a whole that is affecting every aspect of human life not to mention planetary destruction as a consequence. If you can't even call out bs and take action in some form on this front or even voice disapproval, yeeeesh, that's a real problem.
"We’ve known for quite some time that Sony, in its current guise, doesn’t care much for its core consumers"
This is inflammatory, speculative, click-baitery and pretty much baseless - wrapped in a bow for people who love to overreact. I guess pretty much on point for the gaming-entitled sect you've been fostering around recently. Though let's not go into the mixed signals - Sony can't do no wrong (sales figures, exclusives) - Sony sucks (pretty much everything else) - but hey, that's what passes/parses for journalism these days.
@LifeGirl I'm not happy with the increase but even with the increase, here in the UK it works out at £10 a month for Premium. I'm £15.99 a month just for Netflix on its own so I'm curious where you're getting all other major streaming services for less than £10 per month combined.
Now, I'm not a "boot licker" (well maybe) but as I said in another post it is essentially a 34% increase. This works out for me as 40 bucks more a year to sub to PS+ Extra in Canada. Again I have spent more money for less value on many other things. As frustrating as increases are there are other things for me to worry about more than 40 bucks.
My sub runs until Xmas, will see what the discounted rates are then, I don't get a lot of value out of PS Plus so happy to let it lapse. A reasonable increase I'd accept but this is ridiculous.
@hi_drnick
Right!??! This is the fourth article talking about this price increase and they just keep getting more and more inflammatory. Did we not already have a pole to measure how angry we all are? Engagement is engagement I guess so whatever.
@MikeOrator it's all about the clicks. Expect even more.
@hi_drnick they'll just reply by saying "but we're not journalists". At least that's what they've done in the past.
Mine expires around Black Friday as that usually tends to be the cheapest time to buy so I guess I'll see what offers are on nearer the time.
It's ok people getting understandably angry but for anything to happen we all need to vote with our wallets.
If everyone actually follows through with their threats of cancelling their Subscription Sony will soon drop the price again
@Cashews indeed, hence so many pay to win games making a fortune from certain people (whales or whatever they're called)
At essentially £10/month it doesn't sound too bad, until you realise that the 'Console' tier of XB Game Pass is £9/m (with games day one), and Sony have announced this price hike just in time for their rival launching arguably the biggest game of the year... Talk about an own goal.
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I got a 1yr sub to Extra in December (discounted to £59 from £84) and what I predicted would happen did. I played a fair amount the first few months and haven't really touched it since.
I bumped it up to Premium in June for another £6.27 and played a little 'Ridge Racer 2', but that's all.
The Premium tier was laughable at £100, with a slow trickle of PS1 & PSP games, but at £120 Sony really are taking the piss.
Personally while I could afford £10/m (or about £8.33/m for Extra), I just don't use subscriptions like these enough to justify it. Maybe if I was new to the PS4 or PS5 ecosystem, a sub would be a good way to try some of the best PS4 & PS5 games. But I've owned a PS4 since Sept 2017, so I've already bought & played all the games I've been interest in.
I'd also just like to remind everyone that PS Now was £50/yr and included online for any Now games (you'd still need PS+ for disc & purchased digital games). I mostly prefer singleplayer games, so the 'Essential' tier of PS+ being included isn't a bonus, it just inflates the price.
I guess Sony probably views itself as the dominant player in the console business at the moment (the data probably backs this up) and they probably realise that they can maximise their revenue doing things like this.
The good times are temporary, so I think Sony is probably milking their dominance this generation for all it's worth while they can.
Internet rage is not as strong in the outside world. People will continue to buy it cause, lets be honest, its kinda cheap rn
To the 33% who said you'll be letting your subscription lapse, it's incredibly easy to cancel your subscription using the PlayStation app. Go to the ps store tab, click the subscriptions tab, then the 3 lines in the right corner, manage subscriptions. Cancel that thing! You'll have to your renewal date. I've got till June next year.
I think this will all come down to the same thing that happened with the Red Dead Redemption coming to PSN. "I hate it... I will never buy it....etc." Then it becomes the best selling game for that month on PSN.If you are serious about PS Plus costing too much, don't buy it! Otherwise, just take it and fume to yourself.
I'll say it again, if you don't want something... don't buy it. These companies don't care if you are upset. They only understand sales. There are many things I don't buy any more. PS Plus is not going to be one because I play online with my friends. I will just buy it and be quiet even though I don't like it either.
The strategy of Sony punishing their loyal console players because their other efforts continue to fail is something I'm not liking.
PC Ports have been a complete flop, their early live service games have been disasters, and it's been met with price increases across the board, useless, overpriced accessories that only loyal console people would buy, dwindling first party offerings in favor of service games.
They have cashed in all of their earned loyalty from PS4 and then some.
I let my subscription lapse last year as I dropped Destiny 2... no reason for me to re-subscribe now that they hiked it up to be in line with Xbox. I'll do all my online gaming on PC now.
@JSnow2 what's worse is that they have people like me, clawing and screaming for Bloodborne on PC/PS5. They're leaving a massive chunk of money on the table because they refuse to listen to us, the fans, the players.
@Sequel no, we need to go BACK to what it was like during the PS3, where there was no subscription to play online because you, the player, already HAVE a subscription to play online... it's called your ISP. I get it, paying a subscription allows them to make the service better, but it's become apparent they're just using the subscription to butt-f**k your wallet without Vaseline.
There wouldn't be as much vitriol If they made a separate tier for those of us that don't care about the free games and just want online play, me paying $80 just to have access to online should be illegal
I was automatically put on Premium plan when it changed last year, and that is due to expire in October, so I've just re-upped for another year at the same £99 price for Premium. Once that expires Oct 2024 I don't think I'll bother subbing again. Too expensive going forward.
They’re justifying this price increase by saying they’ll be adding higher quality content and extra value to the service. But they don’t say what that’ll be. That’s my problem with this. If they were to state, “We’ll be adding this, this, and this,” along with announcing the price increase then I might be able to get behind the reasoning. Like if first party games or more 3rd party were included day one. Or they finally launch PS3 emulation and included that consoles back catalog for download. But as it stand their attitude is “just trust us.”
Apparently I learned that I don’t even need PS Plus to play online since my brother’s account is mained on my PS5 when I didn’t have enough money to renew on due date one time, but I still resubscribed anyways once I had it.
Once it runs out, I’m not renewing.
Sony, you lost someone who was a PS PLUS member every year.
I've been on premium since day one and I absolutely regret every second of it. I don't play online, I don't play Multiplayer, none of the games in the classics catalogue are actual classics. The game trials are complete bs. All the best games on extra are games that I paid full price for to play on day one. My subscription ends on October 9th, auto renew is turn off. If I can't justify what I'm currently paying then why am I gonna blindly agree to pay more. Sorry Jim, enjoy your time at the top, you're not getting another penny of my money.
The actual nail in the coffin for me though was the read dead redemption re-release. Why am I gonna pay £40 for exactly the same game that I didn't pay £40 for 13 years ago. But it's not exactly the same game cos the original had Multiplayer. Something has to change.
@get2sammyb even judging by those vote numbers it won't really affect anything much. And with overreacting taken into account, it may make a slight increase in revenue.
No way the majority of people who play fifa, cod etc ditch ps plus, and their subs are going up.
It's a bit annoying, but for a year, it's still not bad. Only reason I'll drop extra is if I don't play £30-40 worth of games this year on it, because that will mean I'm not using it enough to warrant keeping it anyway.
Like I said elsewhere, this will give Sony an idea of people's opinions towards the tiered subscription and probably lead to 1: improving Premium to include a lot more features and maybe a few more 'premium' games & 2: possibly phasing out extra/fully merging it into either PS Plus or Premium if overall people are tiring of the sub to play model as it is
Game pass cost $43.89 more per year when compared to premium...that's over 27% more.
If you stop charging for online play, you will see a dramatic increase in cheating on the ps platform. For $80 you also get at least 36 games a year on ps5. That's less than $2.23 per game.
The value is still there, community is certainly overreacting.
Just realised I have no real use for classics catalogue or streaming so I’ve dropped down a level, no point paying even more for stuff I don’t use !
@deathaxe BG3 is currently £49.99 on Steam. It's £57.99 on PS Store.
@Goobplus 100% agree and yep I've just added an extra year now.
Only bought one PS game this year so far and that was a used copy of Hogwarts.
I have though played a ton of PS Extra titles that I would never have bought and they far exceed the £83. Christ some people preorder Fifas and Cods for £90 just too get some ***** costumes etc!
Part of me wonders if they'll walk this back, but the other part is sure they won't.
My premium sub is up next year so we'll see. I don't blame people who are upset by the news though.
Everyone should stop paying and they will have to bring the price back down. I won't be getting plus anymore.
Most of the games I play don't require a ps plus subscription. So I guess I'm gonna drop it. May buy it for my kids birthday month. But the annual cost, nah. Miss me with that.
What I'm going to do is wait until there's a game on PS5 that I actually want to play online, and then pick up a 1- or 3-month sub depending on how long I expect to play.
Multiplayer & multiplatform game? I'll probably opt for the Steam version.
The sad part is I think it'll be a long time before PS Studios convinces me to re-up.
This is outrageous. I'm definitely going to downgrade my subscription. Pure greed.
PlayStations consumer services is abysmal! I’m surprised they haven’t been sued as much as they should! If PlayStation really cared about their consumers the CEO’s would take a pay-cut instead of screwing us over with this price hike!
@Number09 my thoughts precisely — the curated collection they offer I've either already played/owned, or can pick up for a pittance second hand (and trade them in once I'm done)
Just cancelled. I'll re-up at the cheap tier when the next battlefield comes out I guess for multi player. If Sony is going to hold back all first party stuff is a waste. Gamepass is so much more useful and you can easily get it for free with Microsoft rewards points. I love playing AAA stuff in my PS5 but I have to buy them all, so who needs the service.
Never pay full price for a year of PS+ (Or GamePass)
Wait and see what the CDKeys sales look like during the holidays. Take it from there.
"33 per cent of you said that you’ll be ditching PS Plus entirely" - 2023.
"If Sony decides to charge for multiplayer, I'll be switching to PC when next gen arrives" - 2013.
And we know how disastrous the PS4 generation went for Sony.
Sony are now trying to screw their loyal fanbase out of more money, absolute corporate greed and disgusting behaviour. I will be cancelling my sub when it is up for renewal.
Well I have expected this. What Sony needs now and, has needed, is a basic tier that provides just the online play at a price less than essential. That would work for many, those that do not benefit from the monthly games or sales. Cloud saving would be included in this cheaper tier because the PS5 does not allow saves to a USB drive like the PS3 and PS4 do. Price for basic basic tier? $40 would be reasonable.
Maybe Xbox will come back from behind with this Shoot yourself in the foot strategy.
Guys come on, they're raising the price so they can bring knack 2 to psn+.
PS Plus Essential was already in overpriced. I let my subscription lapse 2 years after buying my PS5. Now there is zero chance that I’ll be subscribing again. Major bummer..
They baited me in with 30% off Premium for a month and now I'm stuck on premium and can't drop down until the 17th after the price has risen. Thanks Sony.
I'll just go with gamepass where they have backwards compatibility as well on their console.
If Sony's intention is to lose customers to another company, well done.
@Titntin i dont like the increase but its not really as bad as its being made out to be. Its the cost of a couple of games a year if that and i do get a good amount of use from my extra sub. Those complaining about the price rise and then going on to say they are willing to throw a couple of hundred quid at upgrading their pc's to play games at 1080p on medium to high settings are just being silly. Wait until they realise its going to cost them a hell of a lot more to get to the same level of a ps5 and they will be back here commenting in one of pushsquares new click and bait article about sonys lack of regard for their consumer base. Like i've said before if you dont like dont buy it.
Im not surprised, “get majority hold of a market and then increase prices” is a badic business tactic.
Edit- ill still keep essencial, cloud saves are too good to pass on for me :/
I also do not play online, so good bye PS Plus.
@NinjaNicky £700 you say and wont need upgrading for at least 3 years? I'd like to see that pc up and running in a video showing it running the same games that are on the ps5 at the same level of fidelity. You may be able to build one with your gaffers generous discounts but i doubt the average person would be able to.pc gaming is a money pit (i've been there) and its ultimatley why i switched back to console gaming because a console is a lot cheaper and there is no upgrade path. Everybody has the same tech so there is no advantage to be had as everybody is on equal ground. Its only the t.v. that's really where bragging rights come into play,oh and the sound system of course. The games look and sound good enough for me on my ps5 and i dont need to suck the national grid dry to run the machine either. I've said this before to the pc builders on here and i'll say it again. You show me this pc thats more powerful than a ps5 for £700 running and playing games to the exact same standard and i'll happily shut up about it. Balls in your court my friend.
The answer to this seems pretty simple, if unpalatable to Sony: they should restructure PS Plus so that the basic tier is cheaper for online play (and perhaps Cloud storage) only - no monthly titles - similar to Apple's Icloud. In fairness, even after you have bought your console there are a range of network-based services that Sony have to provide and fund. The risk is many people downgrade to this and Sony loses a big chunk of cash (that's the unpalatable bit).
The middle Extra tier would largely stay the same, including the price increase. The value proposition is actually pretty good - if you have the time to devote to going through the catalogue and are prepared to wait for 1st party AAA titles to come to it.
Expectations of an equivalent of Xbox Game Pass are unrealistic. Microsoft are offering this at huge lost revenue opportunity for themselves simply because they have to to stay in the game and subsidised by their other profitable divisions. It's a bribe. Sony and Nintendo's shareholders expect them to make money from their core business.
Lastly, it's clear Premium needs to be beefed up. But it's existence is going to make sense once Sony transitions to a full cloud gaming provider - when the technology and consumer are truly ready for this (Stadia showed they are not). In the meantime it needs spiced by a larger dedicated back catalogue (rather than dripfeed) maybe early release titles or perhaps a super-premium game added per month to the library. with a bit of imagination Sony could make it more attractive.
The question is, does Sony care enough? As Apple has lead the way from balancing its devices revenue with services, and PS Plus is Sony's main services platform for gaming, really it should. However, this week's announcement seems careless.
The only reason I have plus is because I can't backup locally and online. I don't care about the games I don't have the time for them anyway.
@iapaulogise Microsoft don't track compilation rates though. They kill there own completion rates though by offering reward points for playing games. Hi Fi Rush was used numerous times after launch. I watched many podcasts where this was brought up & none mentioned the effect of reward points.
@themightyant I got the feeling the US prices are higher due to them not getting a PS5 price hike.
@species I'm so pissed they removed the local backup option. The rest of the stuff is something i dont give a toss about.
@liathach Or just reinstate the local backup option.
£20 increase over the space of a year, honestly that's not much and still incredible value.
They should have put out a Blog Post explaining though
@DaveSimonH I'm one of those people. Usually play Xbox but got a PS5 in December and a year of Extra so I could play a load of 1st party games I missed and a few others that were included.
Was considering renewing but there really is no point, especially not with price increases.
This is why for years I've been saying to fanboys that you don't want a specific console maker to be super successful. They typically become profit focused and anti-consumer.
If you like throwing money away for nothing, then more power to you. Sony and Microsoft have both been caught out in the past trying to take too much profit, so I would expect this will come back to bite them.
This is a wild price jump. I wouldn't even care if the service was good enough to warrant it but it isn't. The "free" games are frequently rubbish, never more evident than this month which seems like spectacularly poor timing on their part.
At the higher tiers it becomes even more egregious. Comical. Tone deaf. Completely embarrassing.
@Sneakyfox
Read my previous comments on my profile. I criticized it. All I said in that other comment is I can stomach it if it doesn't increase further.
btw you're spamming and double posting. I'd be careful, the mods might not be too pleased.
I will literally go from premium to essential overnight . Well done pony
That is a rather big jump in cost... time to downgrade when my sub is over.
I hadn’t really thought about it, because I don’t subscribe to PS Plus, but $80 a year for what is basically just the ability to play online is absolutely absurd. That’s the same price as the NSO Expansion Pack family plan. Ridiculous pricing.
@NinjaNicky yeah good old youtube. I've seen a few vids where there have been builds that come reasonably close to the ps5 running games in 1080p with no ray tracing etc. Those builds are generally £750 upwards so i'm sorry but your argument is a non starter..i'll stick with my ps5 buddy..
I'll probably lapse a well until there is a sale and do another year then.
I simply cant afford all these price hikes, i can barely afford groceries at the moment...
Is gaming gonna be for a rich elite audience in the future? I guess that's what they want, but they VASTLY underestimate the amount of poor people vs rich.
The gap is growing bigger every day and if the game industry fails to realise that then the industry is doomed.
You might target people with big wallets, but you're basically saying "F you" to the other 90% of the playerbase.
@Sneakyfox A time for a little poem:
I'm maybe a gullible shill,
but Jim Ryan deserves all our gil.
It's ugly, but that's just the way things are are the moment. Blame central banks, governments, special interest groups/lobbyists and large commodity brokers for the Western economic downturn, and not just Sony for upping their prices. As an almost exclusively SP only gamer, the likelihood of me renewing my Prime subscription for the "free games" after it expires is slim to none. And I know that I'm not alone. Sony could take this at heart, but I'm sure think that their investors don't care.
@Vriess Sony posted a $7B profit last year, it's pure greed
@VaultGuy415
Yeah, but its not just Sony, it's all companies. They all claim they need to raise prices to survive, but they're still making record profits while everyone else, or at least the working class, stay stagnant in pay.
I am disappointed in the over inflated price hike, especially of you prefer to buy 12 months instead of monthly. I did however get a few 12 months subscriptions last Christmas and in my birthday cards (6x PS Plus Premium). So I am safe as I did stack 2 of them and I have 4 in my sock drawer when I need them 🤣
I quit playing online games last year so thankfully I'm not reliant on ps plus and can let my essential sub lapse at the end of the year. The price hike is ridiculous, prices are raising in general everywhere and Sony is simply taking advantage of this for extra profit like many other greedy companies.
It is bad. Could be worse. I am/ was an Xbox fan. Imagine if after a big, big game drought what is hyped as the game of the generation comes out and it’s middling.
@Slayer25c that's not true. The hack occurred in 2011 and paying for online happened with the release of the PS4 in 2013.
I will probably extend my plus extra before the increase. I started paying for plus around 5 or 6 months after it was first released. That's 13 years of plus games across PS3, PS Vita, PS4 and PS5. I also buy quite a few games with plus discount.
Some people seem to think the price rise is okay because the price of everything is increasing. The rising costs in the UK escalated after 2020. The rising costs of energy was first blamed on covid, then rising demand in Asia, then wholesale prices and finally the war in Ukraine (all excuses while energy companies made billions in profit). Then there's Brexit, lots of strikes and living on an island surrounded by it's own excrement. There's no justification for the rise of the cost of PS Plus, it's simply greed.
Removed - flaming/arguing
Oooh we held out for as long as we could in these unprecedented times. Despite our best efforts YADA YADA YADA. I’ve had enough of this price gouging nonsense.
EVERYTHING has gone up a couple bucks here, a few bucks there. Guess what the first thing that will be cut? A friggin’ $20 increase to a hobby.
Thank goodness for my Steam Deck and my pc.
Seems like subscribers should know ASAP. I don't remember ever seeing anything sent to my email. Maybe I missed it.
@Cashews I'm sorry but those games can be easily emulated in phones
@lightningbolt79 u do know its not only £20
more that's on extra and premium and £10 on essential and library with extra is worth way more especially if they add ubisoft plus games day1.
Wasn't it only a few years back that Plus only cost £29.99? Then it jumped a tenner and now it's jumped £20. I'm out I'm afraid as I've got bills and a family to take care of first. I was planning on getting a PS5 bit I'm just going to stick with PS4 and get my games cheap in eBay etc. Maybe I'll get a PS5 when it's near the end of its life and it's games get cheap 2nd hand
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