The hook with the upcoming iPhone 15 Pro is not only that it’s an outstanding multipurpose device, from phone to full-scale camera – but it also has the power to run modern console games natively. That includes the likes of Death Stranding: Director’s Cut, a release originally funded by Sony, as well as Assassin’s Creed Mirage.
“It is like the everything you love and depend on, your device, your phototaking, your memory capturing, and now it's a powerhouse game console, but one that is in your pocket that you can take anywhere, game over different wireless networks, game on different titles, different ways that you get,” said Apple marketing bigwig Kaiann Drance in an interview with IGN. “I mean, it's remarkable how it all comes together.”
GPU software executive Jeremy Sandmel added: “I think they say the best game console is the one you have with you. It's going to be the best game console.”
To be fair to Sandmel, he likely made this comment tongue in cheek, but obviously the context is lost in a text interview. And platform architecture honcho Tim Millet did clarify: “I think we're focused on the developers and the titles in the games. Less on trying to compete with consoles. I think console is just a convenient way for us to talk about the classic games and the types of games and developers that we're targeting, the ones who have been successful in deploying there.”
So in other words, Apple doesn’t really consider the iPhone 15 Pro a competitor to the PS5 and PS4, but it does see developers who historically ship PlayStation games as potential targets to port their products to the device.
[source ign.com]
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Can it run Crysis?
My first smartphone and only iphone was the 5. I was impressed with the graphics it could do. I quickly became disillusioned with any sort of gaming on a phone. The mobile market got so full of trash and scams it'd be a hard sell to pull in actual gamers. Plus with the default controls being touch screen, it limits what is convenient to play on it.
I got an iPhone 14 recently so I'm not looking to upgrade for another 2 years at the least, but...
I usually go for the base model but if they build a good library of games by the time I'm looking for a new phone, I might be convinced to get the Pro.
That's a big if though.
Would I swap gaming on my 50” tv for an iPhone .. erm lol?
I don't think I could ever play a (console) game using the touchscreen instead of a controller
The best console with the worst looking games, 30 minute battery life and touch screen controls? Yeah sure 🤣
"they say the best game console is the one you have with you"... Who are THEY?
If iPhone released a version with physical controls, either snap on (like Switch) or slide out (like Xperia Play) then that would show it is serious about 'console' like gaming
Unless it’s got a holographic projection with an interactive interface (like Washu’s computer in Tenchi Muyo perhaps), yeah, sure.
Btw - playing console games with touch controls? Nah.
Good thing the DualSense works quite well with iPhones over bluetooth and there are accessories like the Backbone to make it even more convenient on the go.
@twenty90seven 3rd party versions of those have existed for a while, The Backbone is supposed to be pretty good.
If they can find a way to get the games running on their new expensive headset thingy... They might be on to something
I find it much less impressive that it can run Death Stranding when you factor in the fact it costs £1,200
Microsoft considers buying an apple from now on.
Yeah hang on I'll switch out my TV to some smartphone screen, I wonder though playing RE4 or something..be like 35mins battery time 🤣🤣
For everyone mentioning touchcontrols - I might be wrong but doesn't apple's OS on phones/ipads/computers all support Dualsense since last winter? I'm pretty sure I read that about 6-8 months ago.
I don't own (and don't want one) Iphone because I prefer my PS5/75" Sony TV - combo. That's all me and my wife needs for movie and gaming sessions
@Friendly i misread that as Microsoft considering buying Apple XD
Gaming as we love it is dying. This isn't marketed to us. This will benefit the mobile gaming industry, which is terrible for us....
"I think they say the best game console is the one you have with you."
I have never heard a single person say these words.
It'll probably have a battery life of about six seconds.
Less chance of being mugged in the street for my PS5. No thanks Apple.
CandyCrush saga VR in UE5 or it didn't happen
Can it run cyberpunk with max graphics and rt? 🤪
My phone is a PSP with a razer kishi 👌
I’m not interested in mobile phone gaming, even if it’s AAA console games like Death Stranding.
I do need a new phone though. I’m like 5 generations behind in the phone space. It might finally be time to upgrade. Then maybe the Push Square videos would load up more consistently for me. 😅
if they fancy giving Microsoft a hard time I’m all in.
As always this company is delusional. They might claim that usb-c is their invention as well.
I actually want an IPhone now. Wow. Maybe after my current deal is done in a few years I will get one. USB C will make using a controller a snap as well. It's cool to see all the competition in the game's industry, it's the sign of a healthy industry when the consumer has a lot of choice for where they spend their money and time. It's amazing to see it still growing so fast.
If Apple doesn't charge to play online, and they keep iterating on their tech like they are keen to do, I can see this being a competitor in the console market, especially if they release a dock and design a controller.
"It'll be the best games console!"...until the IPhone 16 comes out...& then when you have to update your OS you'll find everything runs more slowly, & the battery drains faster!😋
Then by the IPhone 17 & next major OS update your paid for game apps unless updated will probably no longer run on your "most powerful console" Iphone 15 anymore!🙄
Constable_What wrote:
Why do you need USB-C? All the current controllers (Dualsense, Xbox, Switch Pro etc.) work via bluetooth with phones
..."Apple insinuates iPhone [...] better games console than PS4, PS5."
"Apple doesn’t really consider the iPhone 15 Pro a competitor to the PS5 and PS4."
...Okay. So...what are we saying here?
Even if the iPhone 15 Pro ends up being great like they claim, there's no way I'll play a major AAA game on a small screen over a big screen TV. There are kinds of games that really work on mobile, but what they are going for is not an alternative.
Yes, people will do way more than they should on their cell phones nowadays, but they are overshooting here if they truly think a lot of major console games can truly work on a cell phone. They should be targeting Nintendo.
@themightyant So you can attach it to your device. I have a Razer Kaiju and you can just slot your device in it, and it's a lot less cumbersome than linking a controller to Bluetooth, and wither using one of those contraptions to attach it to your controller, or standing the phone up on a desk.
That's why I said, a "snap". Hey?
Great... You´re playing RE4 Remake and are super immersed: SMS from mum, playing 3 min, Your Phone is low on battery, playing 2 min, friend calling you and so on. I love my consoles and one factor is that it is for media and gaming, nothing else.
@somnambulance I see you are a man of culture as well
@RoomWithaMoose there's two different parties saying that it isn't a competitor, and one party making a tongue in cheek remark stating that a console you'd be able to fit in your pocket would be considered the best console to Apple
So nothing is really being "said", it's just an article for fun relaying some news from some of the industry muckity mucks.
Ok. Where are control BUTTONS and where to insert my discs?
I don't have an iPhone so this isn't for me but... I'll still be pretty impressed if they can run modern games @ full graphics and framerate, whilst getting decent battery life and not melting
Hahahahahahaha...wait, let me catch my breath...hahahahahahahahaha
They'd better stop bragging about it, otherwise Spencer will be adding them to his shopping list.
The problem with iphone is the os is changing so often that games can be unplayable after a couple of years, if you bought a switch or ps4 (offline) games, that games will be playable until the end of time or at least until the console is damaged, but with iphone that game will be just lost in times.
@TheDarkSide Apple is worth more than microsoft though, it's the other way around.
Give it a year and you'll need to spend another £1200 as they will nuke the battery even more. Might last 30mins at the moment, but next year it will last 30 seconds.
The best X according to Apple, and their fans, will always be the Apple X.
There's also a common expectation that the most expensive X is the best X, and Apple have that in the bag too.
Thats cool. Still dont want to play on my phone
@Robocod, almost word-for-word what I was going to post! 😂. I like Apple hardware, but ugggh, the software. Just look at the iTunes app on a PC (I don’t know, maybe it’s better now but I gave up on it 5 years ago after 10 years of perseverance)
@BraveLilCrumpet Indeed. I felt proud that I could make that reference casually for this moment.
Never bought one, never will. Not only do I find iphones overpriced compared to android phones, I don't like the arrogance of apple or the culture of people who have iphones (well, not everyone, but a certain kind of people).
Overhype is what Apple does best, since people keep falling for it.
Porting a game on a mobile on ios/android can be a really tedious puzzle of optimization and assets/tech conversion.
Even there, the market for games on mobile platform is so much different. its just not worth it, better spend time on a new project.
@sentiententity you can use a controller on a phone. or some weird controller case.
but... its still gaming on a phone.
And how long will that already weak as water Apple Battery last playing a game, 25 minutes?
gaming on a phone is like taking photos on a phone:
utter feces.
I doubt mobile by its nature could compete really, but…
If it had a nice little dock with no lag and a good controller, (Airplay is fun to try, but it usually gets “choppy”.) The new phone does have USB-C, which invites some new opportunities with data transfer.
I might treat a phone like a Switch in that situation. That’s an interesting thought to me.
@mariomaster96 you can use an xbox, playstation or even a 8bitdo controller on a phone.
yet, its still playing on a phone. its bad. You will either drain the battery super fast or make it overheat.
I'd personally never choose any phone for gaming over a pc or console ,I only use my Samsung smartphone for games of chess and other simple games for forms of entertainment on a touchscreen and that's when not at home etc ,I wouldn't care how powerful a phone is ,it's simply not proper gaming to me who are they trying to kid lol
@DrVenture69 Got family members who are Apple fans...within reason...been Android myself, but after seeing how my old Galaxy fared dutifully updating it & even after replacing the battery(when that was still an option!), I've become more cautious!
Managed to get by 3+years touch wood & keep apps updated,but quelle surprise seem to have ecked out a longer battery life thus far not falling for the phone manufacturer update racket! 😋
Seen way to many indie devs talk about the pain of publishing on Apple/Android vs the big boys with their Candy Crush Roblox freemium warez!
Idk. Im calling BS. I ll believe it when I see it with this 1.
@Kanji-Tatsumi This is the main take for me. That price is insane.
I fully appreciate that there are phone enthusiasts out there who will love this tech and that these games are an added bonus, but for myself I'd sooner get a flight to Tokyo or something.
@RoomWithaMoose
They explain that it is tongue-in-cheek in the article and that the speaker's tone may not come off that way in the text. So basically it's a funny headline, alluding to a jocular comment, and then an article that explains why it's not really the case. It's not contradictory it's subverting expectations.
Is it april fools already.or this motherfu😴😂🤔😲 is on drugs.ps5 is unstoppable.word up son
My non-fanboi takes (some of you all are insane😂)
Nintendo has sold nearly 130 million Switch, people like playing handheld. Mine never leaves the dock but my kids never play in the dock. And Switch Lite doesn't dock so...
Steamdeck, Asus Rog Rally, etc people LIKE handheld gaming. AND SONY IS MAKING AND SELLING PS PORTAL FOR HANDHELD GAMING YOU NUTJOBS!!!! 😩
iPhone 15 Pro costs over $1k, that's 3x as much as a Switch, 5x as much as a Switch Lite, it better be a better gaming console than a Switch. Might even have more power than a "screwing up the works for MS" XSS. 🤷♂️
Yes touchscreen play sucks, I can't do it, but Backbones and Grips and things exist for a reason, for people to game on their phones. Not going away.
So yeah, nobody wants to play touchscreen on their phone, but handheld gaming is all the rage right now, and there's a lot of power in a $1k phone. It's not all about you, you people.
That's cool and all but id rather play Snake on my old Nokia phone and stick to playing big games on the tv.
"They say the best games console is the one you have with you"
This sums up modern advertising and corporate idiots. Who say? No one say. Shut the f*ck up 🤣
It's the same utter meaningless bullsh*t that features in that electric car advert "who said electrification can't spark excitement?"
Literally no one. What are you even talking about? Its just sticking words together that sound like some amazingly clever and positive thing that you've discovered, that ultimately means nothing.
Argghhhhh we totally deserve exticntion 🤣
A mobile device is awsome but gaming is not possible during my drive towards work. When im om the job i dont have the time and when I'm at home ill rather play on a console. So what the use of the mobile phone when I think about it's nothing for me.
I just want a phone with which I can call and text for 20 bucks. The basic stuff.
Is that still possible these days?
Unless it has a slide out controls like the "sony Ericsson Xperia play" did then maybe, but using touch streen! no chance
@Icey664 Its always the ones that are trying to sell you a phone
What the hell is up with all the "I can't play if it's a touch screen" or "touch screen controls, no thanks." How large of a rock have you been living under? Firstly they have controllers and Bluetooth for the old folks, and attachments for the middle age gamers, but I truly watched my 12-year-old niece play Genshin on her iPhone 11 with the touchscreen controls and there was no issue for her. It is almost like she prefers a touch screen to all the old foggy attachments and buttons. Weird how young kids adopt new ways that become normal.
Yeh, right.Full of rubbish as usual. Sadly the Apple fans will fall for it every single time.
I doubt anyone is going to get an iPhone for gaming
Nice bonus though along with all the benefits and features of a phone.
Especially with some of the plans and deals available through carriers.
Easy stream to the TV with a blue tooth connected controller. All for trying it.
Oh Apple ... they think people buy the switch because it is portable and not because IT HAS NINTENDO GAMES. People who have the newest iphones and use the airpods (i thinks that's their name lol) all the time, they don't want to play on their phones to look like a f****g nerd, they buy that stuff to look cool and they already have a ps5
I am not an Apple fan, but iP15 gen does show its potential to be a console, people may arguing the screen size, battery life, touch screen controlling, but, we have to think about what is a gaming console first. 55” 4K? Pro- gamer gamepad? PS5 not even has a screen, the 55” 4K is our TV! Battery life? PS5 not even works when we don’t have a power cord.
Let consider a iP15 Pro Max with a dongle which make a 4k rt output (usb to hdmi?)and a charging port for the phone battery, it just like the power cord and a hdmi cable of PS5, and iPhone has bluetooth connection for game pad too, think about we are able to put a PS5 grade console in a pocket? And how about there are some mini games to play during the iPhone is “unplug”, those mini game may earn some exp, skill, or $ for the Main Game, the player can casually play whenever they are available, it will merge the portable gaming device and desktop console in a user friendly way, Nintendo ‘s Switch did it, but not that powerful for AAA games and the size is way bigger than a iPhone, and lack of the usage of a smart phone.
To be honest, iPhone 15 may not be quite capable to make these transition come true, yet, but it seems the future is not too far.
I laughed when Apple showed this, love the iPhone etc but no, leave the big games off the 6.1” screen please, even the Switch Lite feels a much better gaming device then the iPhone does.
@UltimateOtaku91 Nintendo Switch has been the best selling console last decade with the worst graphics, 2 hour battery life (originally) and well, a touch screen.
The graphics will be better on iPhone 15 Pro (it has hardware raytracing support among other things), battery life remains to see but taxing games like Genshin runs for hours on older devices and iPhones have controller support, including DualSense. It can also output 4K video via the USB-C cable so a “docked” mode is possible.
I don’t personally think they’ll compete with consoles any time soon, if ever.
I do think though that if there’s a company that could break into the market, it’s Apple with its bottomless pits of money to invest.
@naruball idk, I'm an Android person myself, but the specs don't lie on this new iPhone. It's even capable of raytracing on top of running contemporary console games.
That's nuts. I like to **** on Apple as much as the next guy, but the tech they're bringing in on a device priced at a 1200 dollars USD in a phone is pretty innovative and affordable on a lot of cell plans. I have an expensive phone as well (Samsung S23 Ultra, and it will cost the SAME AMOUNT as what I am paying for this phone and is waaaaaay better), but I only pay 40 bucks a month for it with a plan through Verizon, after trading my old phone.
I don't think it's gonna topple PS5, but it's a cool device that's taking gaming seriously, and that's good for the industry to see more competition.
If you believe that, I have an igloo in Death Valley to sell you.
April 1st comes round quick
I can get the Apple effect by by placing some black tape vertically down the left side of my telly. No one wants to see all their screen, surely! 🤣
Is an encouraging development am sure I am always interested in games in the palm of my hand, it’s my preferred method but they need to get a grip (of) themselves
Only so many years they can get away without Steve Jobs innovation before they get found out. Suprised it hasn't happened already.
@UltimateOtaku91 To be fair most phones now are way more powerful than the Switch. I'm playing Ever Crisis on my phone at a way higher resolution and framerate than it'd be on Switch. Phones, even mid-range ones like mine, are roughly at least PS4 Pro level now. Though obviously usually with awful touchscreen controls.
This is Tifa's model in EC, it's surprising how much like Remake it can be running on a phone.
Ahh I get it... so it's like Stadia!!! Awesome 🤣
Apple's best video game console was the Pippin and I will not be quiet about this
I'd rather a Pippin or any interesting uses of the hardware else, let alone better games. Sure App Store/Apple Arcade but no thanks.
Also dual screen iPhones doubt it. Annoying notifications regardless of changes over time.
Also controller/controller grips or built in/separating like Switch/Lenovo Legion hmm the latter thanks. No on touch screen inputs.
There is a reason I like them 'sometimes' used in 3D/Vita games for specific things, not the only inputs besides an additional controller on phones/tablets.
Apple needs to listen to Google and why they gave up on Stadia. Tech companies don't get gaming, Apple has Apple Arcade/the App Store but that's it. It's what gamers want not oh yeah we get gacha/MTX money, wow.
We aren't all playing casual games on our consoles, we may our phones (I don't) but if we want to take gaming seriously we don't our phones.
It's more a time waster/social device then a PC/Console/Handheld were care to put more time into/not push the battery as much.
@mariomaster96 nothing action oriented fast pace strategy games like fire emblem or turn based gameplay
Although apple has some good tech it's overpriced. When I get my hands on Mac books or iMacs their operating system is wiped and windows put on. I had the iPhone one I bailed after that android is freedom apple has you locked to an app. I'm buying a new phone iPhone 15 no interest I like farephone the user replacement parts are a plus I'm rocking a user changeable battery! I have a good laugh when apple does their press releases seriously it's a cult following.
I don't intend to buy any "gamer" phone or whatsoever. But there are some impressive phone performer out there already. Just shame how many "million" of scam/crap/rubbish games are out there. I didn't see any real good game for long time.
Only enjoyable game I had (eg. on android tablet) is Rome:total war. No micro transactions, no cheating way by buying benefits etc, only buy the game and it's done.
LMAO that's hilarious. One of the most Apple things ever. They think they are the best at everything they attempt, yet they are not even best at their main market.
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