Unfortunately, a fairly common issue with controllers these days is stick drift, whereby one or both analogue sticks act as though you're holding them in a direction when you're not. The DualSense is no stranger to this fault (we've had it happen at Push Square Towers), but it looks like Nacon is attempting to make stick drift a thing of the past with its latest pad.
The Nacon Revolution 5 Pro is an upcoming controller, compatible with PS5, PS4, and PC, that looks like an alternative to the DualSense Edge. It has a modular design and is highly customisable; included are three different stick heads and stick sizes, as well as three weights you can put in the grips. Additionally, you can program four controller profiles per platform, and customise it further using an app on your PC/Mac. It also boasts trigger blockers to let you customise their "amplitude" and two forms of d-pad to choose from.
Most interesting, though, is the tech behind the asymmetric sticks. They (and the triggers) use a new magnetic hall effect technology, which apparently makes for "greatly increased precision and durability" and "eliminates stick drift". Obviously, whether that holds true or not will take time to assess, but hopefully it's an improvement at the very least.
The Revolution 5 Pro is up for pre-order at €229.90, and will be available in October. You can find more info on the official site. What do you think of this one? Tell us in the comments section below.
[source nacongaming.com]
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My PS1 controllers still work to this day. Is there any particular reason for stick drift being such a problem these days. Is it a change in materials? Are manufacturers being stingy and using poor quality parts?
Looks good, but horrible choice for the D Pad. The replacement one looks the same, just raised.
That's a deal breaker for me.
Who thinks circle D Pads are a good thing anyway?
That D-pad looks horrible!
I was interested, looking for the pri…. 230€ yeah no thanks
@RainbowGazelle The absolute vast majority will buy a new controller rather than fix the faulty drift. More money, that's it. Same reason fridges /. TVs used to last a lifetime in comparison to nowadays.
Get out of here with that stick placement.
The drifted up to the top left get your garbage out of here Nacon.
Got the sticks wrong. It's a pro PS5 controller and they got the sticks wrong.
No stick drift? The left stick drifted so far up and to the left that it's above the dpad.
The trouble with the PS5 Dualsense is that it is set up with such a tiny deadzone that only a little relative drift will show up. Unlike the Dualsense Edge you can't customise the deadzone in the UI for the stock controller. This is super frustrating.
I have plugged my two drifting DualSenses into a PC for diagnosis and they have less relative drift than my PS4 and XB1 pads which DON'T drift on those systems. Annoying, and expensive... which is probably why. Greedy *****!
I'm sure it's great and all but the stick positioning makes it a big nope from me. Although an option for people that do prefer that layout can only be a good thing.
Drift away into oblivion. My PS4 controller does this often, but not my PSX, PlayStation 2 nor my PlayStation 3 controllers. Made a really hard game harder ( The Evil Within 2) harder when the controller decided to go down'sy and do it's on thing...
I have symmetrical hands, so I like symmetrical controllers. Using the Xbox controller layout was a poor choice.
If my left thumb was twice as long as my right thumb then I'd understand why the left analog stick is where it is, but both my thumbs are identical in size. Yh so used to having both the analog sticks perfectly in line with each other which is perfect placement for where both of my thumbs naturally are when holding a PS controller
I must say, I’ve never had stick drift on a pad other than the Switch. And I’ve had most of the mainline consoles since C64
Haha, where do people get the ideas for these prices lol. No controller can be "pro" enough to justify such an unnecessary luxury purchase. We all know real pros don't need special equipment
A rubbing alcohol and holding both l3 and r3 will help stop the stick drift.word up son
@playstation1995 Fuuuur reeeal
I never ever had any issue with stick drifts on my ps4 for 9 years, now with ps5 no issues (so far) either. Nintendo switch however, only issues with those joy cons, also with 3rd party joypads.
Am I crazy enough to think that 220 euros for a controller is just too much..even if it's 'newest tech'. But then if it's the last controller you will need, then maybe it's worth it. I will wait for reviews first.
Like inverted Y axis, all games should have an ajustable deadzone option.
@Bamila absolutely too much money. I have both an Elite and the Edge. Amazing controllers but I got my Elite used and Edge with gift cards I got for my birthday this year. No way I was going to pay full price for those. I prefer to buy back buttons adapters for the base controller because of all features this is the one that matters the most for me
What on earth is that dpad? To someone who loves playing 2D games on the dpad, this looks like a nightmare. Not that I'm the target audience for a €230 controller anyway, that's just an obscene price.
I had a nacon pro controller on my PS4… best controller I ever had tbh… which under normal circumstances would mean I’d be up for this… £200 though 🤔
I would be all over this as I absolutely love the Nacon fighting stick I bought earlier this year, a really solid piece of kit - even if its far more expensive than this unit.
We have four dual sense in the house (I have two PS5's) and one has indeed suffered a bit of stick drift, so a pad with replaceable sticks would be an asset. But I'm slightly concerned about the D pad, and without wishing to offend my Xbox friends (who think I'm mad), I'm not keen on offset sticks like MS uses, it makes no sense to me and means my wife has trouble using it too.
So for the above reasons I intend to get an Edge this Xmas which has replaceable sticks but keeps the features I like about the current dual sense.
Always nice to have choice though, and this could well appeal to those who prefer offset sticks - and there are many of them!
Asymmetric sticks is huge pain in the as$ on my Switch controller, so there is no need to suffer on PS5 also...
For that price I would expect it to at least have the left stick and the d-pad on the right position
Not sure if I'm a fan of the asimetric sticks, and that dpad looks, interesting õ-ó...
but I'm much more excited for this that the Edge, Nacon controlers are super solid.
I wouldnt bet on the stick drift thing tho, from my experience their sticks are kinda fragile and straight up break at time. but hey, meybe they improved that.
Might get this one
The look of the controller really reminds me of those fake console mock ups from the mid to late 00's.
Honestly the only controller I've ever experienced stick drift was my Switch Pro Controller with the right stick, and I'm pretty sure that's from excessive Salmon Run playing in Splatoon 3 lol.
@RainbowGazelle PS1 controllers didn't have sticks!!!
@Maddie47 I'm not sure I agree with "almost always", but it seems to be pretty common. The controller that came with my launch PlayStation 5 developed drift after about 1800 hours of play, but was luckily within warranty, but it's also the only controller I've owned this millennium which has suffered from drift (some controllers in the 90's used to allow you to offset their deadzone with little sliders around the sticks), although it's with noting how small the deadzones are on the dualsense.
I've not put much wear on the RMA'd replacement as I bought myself a midnight black controller and relegated the white one to a spare which is paired with my phone for remote play, but the black controller now has well over 2000 hours on it and it's going strong.
I have never experienced stick drift, so I suspect that people who say they have are lying. Either that, or they are smashing their controllers with hammers and then dunking them in the toilet. If you didn’t do stupid things like that, you wouldn’t have any problems.
Also, cars don’t break down all by themselves. As long as you put gas in the tank and don’t drive them into walls, they’ll keep going. My car has been running great for years and years so I don’t see why anyone else would have a problem.
Oh, and your cat died because you didn’t feed it. I feed my cat, and it’s still alive, unlike yours. You should be locked up, you monster.
My 3 DualShock 3 controllers and my 4 DualShock 4 controllers have no sign of any drift, despite a LOT of use. Then again they feel much better built than the DualSense 5.
That said, no sign of any drift so far (not been used that much though) and the only one I've seen it on is my son's Switch where the left joycon became unusable.
This controller have been worthwhile if you could change the DPad and left stick position round like some of the more expensive DS replacements.
Nice layout as I prefer the Xbox style layout but that price.. Are Sony ever going to allow cheaper wired controllers to be licenced this gen? it's been nearly 3 years! Xbox did it after a few months. The Nacon wired PS4 controllers were great along with being cheaper than a DS4.
@ShogunRok they have the sticks setup for 3D gaming and not 2D gaming. Not sure if thats wrong or not. That would be subjective. I prefer offset for 3D games. But that D pad looks awful.
I watched a video the other day about how Sega made driftless sticks for the Saturn and Dreamcast all those years ago. It baffles me that it's a worse problem now than then.
"They (and the triggers) use a new magnetic hall effect technology". Hall effect tech was used in the original Dreamcast controllers, so it's hardly new. Other third party controllers and portable game devices have also started using it.
Never been a fan of offset sticks and a d-pad where my left stick should be. Pass…..
I’ve been using the Gulikit controller for Switch and PC, which has Hall effect sticks. It’s been great so far. I will probably pick this up, I prefer asymmetrical layouts.
@RainbowGazelle it's due to higher sensitivity to minor changes in electrical currents in controllers which allows more precise and responsive controls. The downside is that it's also more sensitive to faults.
No, no and no. Also, No
That looks like some kind of cheap- arse Madcats / Game own brand PS2 give it to your little brother to play with spare controller tomfoolery, right there.
It also eliminates symetrical analogs and any haptics.
ROFL
1) asymmetrical sticks? not even the option to switch to symmetrical? Duh! The controller is for Playstation, double duh.
2) the cost? ain't no way!
3) stick drift? one new DS4 I purchased started to get left stick drift after about 10 days of use. no hitting with a hammer or dropping it into the toilet. stick drift may be a combination of stick design and game design, and maybe too the console. GTA 5 on my PS4 will get left stick drift or no stick drift with my DS4 depending on the dead zone setting.
My current DS4 is now 2 years old with daily use and the sticks do not drift while playing a game. the only issue is when using the browser. the page will auto scroll up until I press the left stick hard to the left or right and then rotate the stick in a circle a few times. that would fix it for a week, but now only about an hour.
4) d-pad? I prefer the DS3 d-pad that is one piece instead of 4 buttons. that one piece, for me, is more accurate, especially in selecting the in-betweens like in-between up and right in Fallout games for selecting weapons.
5) could change my mind factors, How the controller is in use, how it feels in my hand, how the sticks feel, do I like the buttons, the battery life, durability, an option for a symmetrical stick layout along with a pop out pop in feature to replace the stick and trigger assemblies.
@Jayslow 😂😂😂 best comment on here and sadly so true..any controller where the sticks are offset takes the L
@Resurrected-X460 @Whately86 Thanks for the answers. They certainly maje sense. I hope it's more the accuracy part, rather than the greed part...
@stassinari They did. It would be quite difficult to play Ape Escape without them, as they're required.
I have replaced my PS5 controller because of drift. Unfortunately, in Denmark the warranty is partly handled by the company that sold me the PS5 (EL-Giganten) and they 'forgot' to register my replacement controller which very quickly after my warranty ended (should have been extended if they did the paperwork) developed drift leaving me with an almost unusable controller in most games. And I don't intend to reward SONY for bad controllers by buying more, so I am just playing remote on my phone or games that eliminate the drift... somewhat. I would like to hear how to fix with rubbing alcohol.
So, no controller and soon no PS plus. It seems to me the next step is removing my credit card so I can't buy any new games and then I might be done after finishing the backlog.
@RainbowGazelle last sentence of the "Design" section from the Wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_controller#Design):
The PlayStation 2 console is backwards-compatible with the original PlayStation controller, with limited functionality due to a lack of analog sticks and pressure-sensitive buttons.
I'm not sure what PlayStation you played on, but it was not the first version.
@stassinari @RainbowGazelle the first DualShock controller, as well as the Disk Analogue Controller (earlier, larger, no rumble outside Japan) were optional accessories for the original PlayStation, launched after the console's release, and the console came with the simpler controller lacking analogue sticks.
The relaunched PSone, which was the mini version released around the same time as the PS2, came with the Dualshock, and the difference between that and the Dualshock 2, which came with the PS2, is that the DS2 has analogue triggers.
Ape Escape required analogue sticks, on the same way that Will Sports 2 required the upgraded Wiimotes. The original PlayStation didn't come with a controller with analogue sticks, so from that perspective the original PlayStation's controller didn't have analogue sticks. The PSone did come with the Dualshock so you can say the PSone's controller did have them.
You can argue that because there were two controllers available for the original PlayStation which came with analogue sticks, that those were also its controllers, but given that they didn't come bundled with the console it's not really clear cut either way, and I'd say that no, they were add-on peripherals rather than an intrinsic part of the console's ecosystem, in the same way as the various bits of plastic Nintendo sold to go with the wiimotes (like the steering wheel, for instance)
Hmm. I wonder who on earth will pay over 200 dollars for a game controller...
I would have bought it if the stick was in the normal place...... I can't stand them not being symmetrical.
Sweet lord!! That’s more than it costs for a PSP 😆
I'd rather just buy another Dualsense when they are on sale for £39.99
Removed - disrespecting others
Here in Argentina with the inflation we have, I would have to sell a kidney to buy it, they regenerate right?...
@stassinari I can't believe I'm being gaslit here. Here's the Wikipedia page for the official Sony PS1 analog controller, which came with the slim PS1s. I got a slim PS1 and 2 of these controllers as a kid.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_Analog_Controller
I'd just buy a new controller, if it drifted, before paying that much. Sounds like a seriously expensive extended warranty insurance program. Good luck with that.
@Ineptgamer Don't be such a scaredy-cat. You have two kidneys. If it doesn't work with the PS6 you might have to give up part of your liver, though.
@RainbowGazelle I sent a reply to both of you which I believe outlines all of this with the arguments either way. At some point the argument becomes one of semantics.
Just clean the contacts with non-conducting contact cleaner. I had drift in my original dual sense I got with the console on the release, cleaned it thoroughly and the drift is gone. Never drifted again, still use it.
@KidRisky There were too many cases of drift for relatively new controllers. I don't think everyone suddenly decided to hammer their controllers or to just outright lie. I've been through drift and fixed it with cleaning, so I believe that's the actual reason: some dusty residue from manufacturing process left inside.
@theheadofabroom All I said originally was my PS1's controller's sticks still work. That's it. I'm not trying to argue whether it's the original controller or not. All I said was, verbatim, "My PS1 controllers still work to this day." It's not a debate. I stated a fact.
@RainbowGazelle I think the confusion here is partly coming from naming. There's no such thing as the PS1, but the original PlayStation (released in 1994) is often referred to as the PS1 following the naming of the PS2, PS3, PS4, PS5. There's also no such thing as the PS1 slim, but some people, it seems including you, use that name to refer to the PSone (released in 2000).
Some people consider those to be the same console, while others don't, hence confusion, and hence why I've been very careful with my wording, so as to be understandable to people with either opinion.
@theheadofabroom It's the same console. Sorry, I'm done with this conversation.
I've read some comments were some are against this. But as some one who has a launch ps5 and my wife bought her self one last year . We have went through 6 Controllers total ! We are in out 40s our home is a pet free smoke free home. We wash and dry our hands before playing to get oil and dead skin off of them. We take great care of all our things. We play cod/apex/fortnite togather and have 6 drift controllers and keep in mind I have been gaming since the commodore 64 and the atari 2600. First console ever ever ever to have stick drift. What kills me is all the bells and whistles in the dual sense but the joycons ware out in 6 months. I just want a controller that works and is not cheap. A controller can can vibrate your ass but it's no good if you can't play a game with it. I pre-orderd 2 of these bad boys to hell with dual sense edge too I'm not going to have more money in faulty ps5 consoles then the price of console. Sony quality build in controllers this Gen is piss poor
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