
Starfield, the Bethesda RPG that released last year as an Xbox console excusive, is apparently being readied for PS5. As reported by XboxEra, the spacefaring title will arrive on Sony's current-gen console alongside its Shattered Space expansion, which is expected to launch at some point this year. What's more, according to the site's sources, Microsoft has started to invest in PS5 development kits, which, if true, certainly adds fuel to the fire.
Of course, if you've been keeping up with the most recent rumours, then you'll know Starfield isn't the only Xbox game that's supposedly jumping to PS5. Evidence is really starting to mount for a Hi-Fi Rush port, and Sea of Thieves is being whispered about as well.
This fresh report on Starfield goes on to say that, at least internally, Microsoft is split on the decision to ship its exclusive Xbox games to rival platforms. It's said that, ultimately, the company's pursuit of profit has pushed this outcome — there's simply money to be made by releasing games on an incredibly popular console like the PS5.
Supposedly, Microsoft will soon make some kind of announcement regarding this shift in strategy — so it shouldn't be long until we learn whether there's any truth to all of these reports and rumours.
Until then, though, how would you feel about Xbox titles like Starfield coming to PS5? Raise an eyebrow in the comments section below.
[source xboxera.com, via twitter.com]
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Wow thats actually pretty cool. Shame its not as good as people hoped for but still cool they are releasing it on another console.
Lmao saw this coming a mile away, pretty obvious the bigger the title the less sustainable gamepass is for it. If this and Hi Fi Rush end up on PS5 this year then selling my Series S last year was a great decision.
checks calendar Nope, it's not April 1st. 😅
If true, that's very, very unexpected. Always have been a Bethesda fan so i'm all aboard on this one. Now give it the VR treatment too and i'm in heaven!
Dropped after 20 hours on gamepass, really on of the worst open world out there, i'm much more interested in Hi fi rush or Pentiment.
In any case, if MS will confirm its multiplatform strategy this month, it's gonna be a month to remember
They really are going the Sega route
I just hope this means that PlayStation would get Elder Scrolls 6 at some point as well. I imagine they'd just be throwing a mountain of money away by not doing it.
Now if they could just port Skyrim to PSVR2.
@Toilet_Goat if this rumor is true (which it seems to be), expect TES6 day one on PS.
It is simple Xbox aren’t really selling that many consoles. Game pass sounds like it is doing ok but probably no where near as good as Microsoft wanted.
What is left for Microsoft to do, just sell games on every format and become the biggest publisher going. It actually makes business sense.
Though being honest if that want to sell games in massive numbers they need to start making better games.
I admit I was quite glad that Starfield wasn't a revolutionary all-time classic, just out of 'sour grapes'; but I'd definitely play it were it to come to PS. Doubtful though I think.
Not surprised in the slightest. They'd be leaving far too much money on the table if they didnt make it cross-platform.
And the same goes for Elder Scrolls 6. Coming soon to PS5... or more likely PS6
I personally love the game and it really does play great on my Series S, so if more people get to experience it, I can't complain!
We are living in truly unprecedented times!
@OldGamer999 most Xbox games get reviewed very well. Microsoft is also making a lot of money from Xbox and I'm fairly sure Xbox has overtaken Windows in terms of revenues.
However, the idea that Xbox isn't failing and that the games aren't all terrible doesn't suit PS fans in the "console war" so many people will ignore the facts and just unfairly criticize Xbox.
Can you imagine being a kid fighting the playground console wars on team xbox right now lol.
Like I seriously don't care about Starfield or any of that VS ***** but man it just makes me remember the wars we engaged in as kids and damn news like this would've been wild
Not buying the game regardless if it is true. Still I find bits of this hilarious.
@lightningbolt79 There is no way Xbox makes more money than Windows.
@BlaizeV A quick Google search shows that Xbox overtook Windows in terms of revenue.
Whether PS fans want to accept it or not, Xbox isn't failing. Gaming is the 3rd biggest business at Microsoft.
Almost feels sad to see it finally be over for Xbox as a big 3 member but they did it to themselves lead by the con man Phil Spencer. Their next path will be as a Ubisoft/Activision hybrid.
As for PlayStation & to a much lesser extent Nintendo, who have exclusively stuck to their guns, this is a great reminder what happens when you let your big franchises fall, overall quality dip and when you try to {and epically fail} act like exclusives don't matter.
It never made much sense to me to make Bethesda games exclusive in the first place and since they bought Activision, most of their game sales will be outside of Xbox anyway, so none of this is surprising. For quite some time Xbox has been heading away from its own hardware for some time and with the Series tracking behind the Xbox One it only makes sense for them to branch out
Makes you wonder how much money the Xbox division has been bleeding lately for Microsoft to resort to doing this.
@BlaizeV Basically ABK with its Microtransactions and Mobile revenue is carrying the xbox division already, that's what spending $69 billion get you.
@lightningbolt79 Embracer has a greater revenue than the fish and chips shop around the corner. Do you see how useful of a statement this is? It does not mean that Embracer is a successful business. What is Xbox's profit?
It's crazy times we're living in as PS gamers. I'm sure Xbox hardcore will have a very calm and reasonable response, especially on Twitter. This is such a seismic shift in strategy that it'll be fascinating to see how far this extends into Xbox's back catalogue and how they'll handle future releases on other platforms moving forward. This very much feels like just the beginning, that much is certain.
Phil's the one probably trying to fight this but it will be the Microaoft board pushing for this to happen. If Game Pass and PS + subs are plateauing then it makes financial sense to get the games on other platforms. Sony isn't going to accept game pass, so they'll need to go the individual game route.
Oh, i hope this is true, I wouldn't mind giving it a try. Send them exclusives on over, we'll take em.
@lightningbolt79
Xbox services are doing well and got a big uptick when they got ABK on board.
But the word services is key and games are a service and that would make more money selling those services/games to everyone possible. Like a windows operating system.
And since when in the last three years have Xbox studios really hit a home run with a big AAA near the quality of say TOTK and GOWR. I don’t think so.
That is one big reason they can’t sell consoles, no one is interested in their exclusive AA ish games.
@CKFilms Phil did a great job to convince Nadella to not let Xbox die but now, after 8-9 years, we have less Xbox Series on market than Xbox One did in the same time and 80 bilions $ spent.
Nadella is not a gamer and he wants to make money after all this years, he's gonna make sad 40-50 milions of Xbox user but he's gonna make happy 100 milions of PS users and 100 milions of Switch users
@lightningbolt79
I’ve been with Xbox since day one and maybe like you I’m not sure I was angry with Xbox direction they are going in. But I’ve chilled on it now.
We should cherish the word XBOX as in the future it will be Microsoft Studios and selling games etc to every device. It’s Microsoft’s business model and future and probably the best for them.
I got over that a while back.
Not surprising at all. MS is in a distant third place in the console space with seemingly no hope of ever catching Sony and Nintendo. MS has spent nearly $100 billion in acquiring studios to compete. It makes ZERO sense to lock that content to an underperforming machine. On top of that, Starfield likely cost around $250-300 million to make. MS has to make that back somehow.
If true, great. However, I’ll believe it when it actually happens.
Eww. No thanks.
On the plus side, seems more likely their Indiana Jones game will also make the jump.
Well, as I was chatting with some friends, the Xbox brand as a console will never be as strong as PlayStation or Nintendo in some parts of the world (damn, PlayStation is actually synonymous of video games in some European countries). If Microsoft's goal is to truly take Tencent's place as the largest company in terms of revenue in the industry, the only way for them to achieve this will be to release their games on more platforms.
I don't know if it's something for people who play on PlayStation (I'm included in this) to celebrate as if it were the end of the competition. If the strategy works for MS, I am absolutely sure that Sony will follow as they claim that their strategy is lagging behind compared to MS's.
I like exclusive content and would like to see even more, even on platforms I don't play/have no interest in. This industry would be aweful if all platforms had the same content.
I hope it's true if only to get elder scrolls back on PS assuming they were gonna swipe it
Before launch starfield kinda looked exciting but now that it's out. I don't think I'll ever play it. So this is kind of a nothing burger for me
I literally bought an Xbox Sx for this game even if it turned out to be a little underwhelming. Would be great as I really had to fight with their controller. I planned on playing Starfield again after all the expansions, so no rush.
I'll believe it when I see it.
I also wouldn't get too excited, it ended up being a bit dissapointing. I put a lot of time in, but ultimately felt I was wasting my time. Regardless, Im sure it would sell big numbers.
Interesting times...
I don't really care about Starfield, it's just something I wouldn't play unless it was free on PS Plus but if this is true then I have no idea what Xbox are doing. I hate it when companies purchase other companies and the rate that Microsoft has been doing it is insane but now it's rumoured multiple of their exclusives are going multiplatform. What was the point in the last few years of consolidating? It hasn't even been a decade since they started all these purchases, did they think they'll make their money back in a few short years? Why would they even think that?
If I was an Xbox owner I would be annoyed, promised all these exclusives and it turns out they aren't. Personally, going multiplatform is good for me but now the only benefit to having an actual Xbox console is to get games day one on Game Pass and I've always found that an idiotic decision which made Microsoft lose a lot of potential income. I wonder if this will be the last gen for Xbox consoles. I could see Microsoft shifting to the multiplatform and streaming hardware side of things. The day I can play Halo 3 and Fable 2 on a PlayStation is going to blow my mind...
Without PS5 their games just aren’t getting the same spotlight too, so I imagine they feel like they might be losing out on Xbox sales too due to it not being on the PS5 and losing word of mouth.
honestly it was only a matter of time, i actually said this would happen that a lot of these games would be timed exclusive , but they would be stupid to not eventually put these games on ps5. if that means starfield and indiana jones will be coming then elder scrolls would be coming too , but i don't see elder scrolls even being a thing till ps6.
I'll be very happy if Indiana Jones comes over. But Starfield? Not really interested.
If I knew this two months ago I wouldn’t have bought it for the adbox x and I would have waited to be disappointed by the ps5 version.
At least the ps5 version might get to full game on the ***** disc if it gets a physical release
Great, maybe now we'll finally get the Ori games ported.
@Bingbongboyo i feel like with some updates ect , by the time it does come to the ps5 , that it will be worth playing.
BIG if true. In the end, players are the winner
@twitchtvpat yes, 100% agree! Let XBox figure out all the patches needed, then we get the finished, polished version! Ha!
The game isn't worth wasting hours and hours but I think this is the start of Xbox's console manufactoring. They will only publish like Sega in a few years. Makes sense...no one in their right mind would pick Xbox over PS5.
When Starfield was first rumoured I was really interested, then they made it exclusive to Xbox and pc which I don't have otherwise I'd have pre ordered it. Since it's release I've checked it out and saw it's not what I hoped it to be so wouldn't buy it now. I bet there is a lot of people who are the same as me, if they'd released on PS5 on launch they'd have had a lot more sales but doing it now feels like it's too late.
This game sounded exciting before it launched! I Played 10 hours on PC to be able to join “the discourse” about it and after a while I just realized not only I wasn’t having fun but I was actually feeling like I was going through chores…I don’t think releasing it now, post the mid (still suspiciously high, seriously the game is nowhere near an 8, are they paying journalists?) reviews would move that many copies on PS5
I am SO sorry that this happened. Nobody deserves to suffer the stain that having Starfield on their platform brings
Been saying it for an age, but Microsoft will be a multiplatform 3rd party developer by the next gen. I don’t think I would play Starfield, but if Forza Horizons ever came onto PlayStation, I’d be all over that!!
So 60fps on Pro? If so I’m there.
I have GP and was waiting for a possible 60fps patch down the road before playing it. This might just be it but on Playstation🤣🤣
Interesting but I'm not really surprised if this does end up being true. Honestly, Starfield isn't really a game that I was excited for even though I love Bethesda's other games.
I said this would happen when ZeniMax were bought by Microsoft, they will become a third party publisher, that still sells their own branded hardware, so they still get to say they release console hardware, also launch their own handheld that can stream and run scaled down versions of their games and multiplats, maybe a rebranded Rig Ally or Lenovo Legion Go, for a more affordable price.
At least putting games that would have been multiplats releasing on PlayStation and the next Nintendo system, but if Sea of Thieves is coming, there is no reason to think that Gears, Halo and Forza wouldn't get a PlayStation and Nintendo version.
Gamepass seems unlikely to get a version that is allowed on rival platforms, but individual, full price, digital only on the PS Store and eShop makes sense.
Gamepass is probably enough of an "exclusive" thing to keep existing Xbox fans on that platform, especially if they prefer the ecosystem, but times exclusivety of 6 months plus on major titles like Indie, Gears 6, Forza Horizon 2025 makes sense too, especially when the Xbox fans have had their fill.
No reason for Microsoft to leave billions in profit off of the table and they can then tell shareholders they have captured the entire gaming market.
Still won't play it. GP model only works for live-service MP title. No surprise, they want to release these single-player titles on rival platform with a larger installed base.
all but confirms the gamespass experiment is a failure just as expected. xbox as a whole is a failure and looking quite desperate at the moment. you don't give your direct competitor your console exclusives unless you have no choice. just move on already and get out of the hardware business for christ sakes. don't give a s**t about starfield, but i'll take indiana jones. thanks, phil!
Obviously not a fan of port begging, but at this point, can we just get Forza Horizon and Flight Simulator too? Those are the ones I actually want!
@Toilet_Goat It's just why do you care for ES6 at this point when you can see the lack of care Bethesda has for its games? Starfield is the biggest showcase of it with "Procedurally generated planets" but nothing interesting, a non functioning map, and the millions of load screens. The devs dont care to change, update or get a new engine, and are trying to find new ways to be lazy.
And so it begins Microsoft are shutting down X Box as a console manufacturer and moving to publishing. I think everyone saw the writing on the wall but Phil...Phil...mate we don't want the crap games we want the good ones. Considering their new direction X Box obviously realise they need to get Playstation gamers comfortable playing X Box games if their desired future is going to work out for them. It's kinda sad to see X Box taking its last breaths but I'm sure I'll get over it if we get some good games before X Box joins Sega in the console makers graveyard in the sky 😔
@IAmAshCohen17 They are still making and selling a console... not exactly apples to apples.
I don't remember if it was here, but I literally said this exact thing would happen back in September. It's America my dudes, money rules all else and there's no way M$ was going to leave all that sweet, sweet PlayStation money just chillin on the table like that.
So yeah, I'm not shocked lol. Microsoft might as well just make the Series their last consoles and just focus on getting Game Pass as many places as they can (meaning PS5 and Switch for starters.)
I'd be really happy to see Bethesda titles on PS5. I wanted to play Starfield before it got kind of a lukewarm response, but I think I'd still enjoy checking it out one day.
If Microsoft ends up dropping Bethesda games on Sony platforms a year after Xbox I would totally happy with that scenario.
@Nepp67 Nostalgia.
@Toilet_Goat At that point I'd just replay Skyrim
I hope not. I bought a Series X over the holidays, so I would have access to their exclusives. Lol
But really, more games on more platforms is only a good thing.
Second PS Showcase.
Xbox Multi Platform Announcement.
Then a massive State of Play announced where Sony gets to flex exclusives coming in the next 2 years, including a look at the the New PS5 Pro which will be the only console capable of playing GTA6 properly? 😂😂😂😂
Can you imagine 😵
Cool . But I'll pass
I don't get it, they went through all this trouble with the governments and whatnot regarding the exclusivity, only to then release thier games on PlayStation anyway. I mean saying they were gonna do this back during those hearings would've really helped them.
I can only assume that the numbers for the whole Xbox division were disappointing to them or something, because there is clearly a shift in their act.
Cool the more games the better.i believe the rest of the Bethesda games are coming to PlayStation also.word up son
Hard pass on this disappointment. Cool to see Bethesda games may still migrate over though.
Now I want to see the new Perfect Dark and Fable arrive on PS5. Edit: Add in Flight Simulator (PSVR2 Edition) and maybe Forza too.
@ED_209 Only reason to have exclusive content is if the content was made for that hardware and would have to be significantly changed to be made on a different hardware. Some basic examples:
PSVR games (although these are fine to also release on other VR platforms)
Nintendo games that rely on motion control (think Wii sports and similar)
Dual screen games made for the DS or Wii U.
In other words, over 99% of games do not benefit from being exclusive to any platform.
@Bingbongboyo I feel the same. I played Starfield for about 12 hours and uninstalled it. Indian Jones looks great though
@Khayl Not really. Sega made hardware once and became a third-part publisher. 🤷♂️
@Bingoboyop There is this thing called money that Microsoft can make by not gatekeeping games behind a specific console that just isn't selling as well.
Microsoft may not sell more consoles and "win the console war", but it sure as heck makes a ton more money than Sony (and Nintendo).
Cool, if they fix the issues with the game, I’ll buy. I was one of the PlayStation players who actually wanted to play Starfield
Could you give me the Halo collection and all the Killer Instinct games while you're in such a generous mood Microsoft 🙂
Bethesda: Hey, let's make a Skyrim in space! It'll be multiplatform and expansive! Have a great story and allow you to "visit" thousands of planets!
Microsoft: Hello Bethesda. We're going to buy you now, okay? And that Skyrim in space is going to be exclusive to Xbox, okay?
Bethesda: But what about what we've done so far for the PS5 version?
Microsoft: Just cancel that stuff. We'll make it worth your while. We'll push it hard as an exclusive, it'll be the focal point and a console seller! It'll be GOTY and make us millions!
Starfield releases to middling reviews and sees player base fall after a few months
Microsoft: Hey Bethesda, you still got that PS5 code hanging around? We may want to release on other consoles... The game didn't do so well and we need to make some money quickly...
*I will not be buying Starfield unless it's free.
Happy for anyone that wants it but I definitely won't be playing this game. I'll play clockwork revolution though. Make it happen Xbox.
Can't blame Bethesda for going where people buy games. They have to expand to the platform(s) Microsoft ripped them away from to offset Game Pass.
Those crazy twitter guys who said MS was only buying to go 3rd party were right LOL
Tried it with reward points on xbox. I maintain the sentiment that it is trash. And anyone only on PS has the opportunity to experience the trashiness themselves soon enough
Sadly, I didn’t care too much for Starfield. But I’m just confused — what is the actual point of owning an Xbox at this point? Maybe these rumors are false, but if not, I don’t understand the incentive of having that console. Maybe I’m too dumb to grasp the concept, but I’d rather own a PS5, play the great exclusives, and still play Xbox studio games on the same console. I understand Microsoft’s biggest focus seems to be Game Pass, but their ecosystem in the gaming space is honestly becoming more of a confusing business tale rather than a lucrative place people want to be apart of.
Had no interest in this before, still have zero interest now it's coming to PS5.
Played through the opening couple of hours on PC just to see if it grabbed me, happily deleted to free up space. Bland and tedious are words that come to mind. I have no patience for Bethesda jank these days.
The constant loading was also surprising and disappointing for a "next gen" title.
This is awesome if true. Hopefully they bring there back catalog of games as well at some point. Would love to finally get my hands on Sunset Overdrive.
@BlaizeV I can imagine. I was a Sega fanboy back in the day.
I was gutted.
But it's a different situation. Sega made incredible and creative games. They were a kickass developer. It was a tragedy for gaming to see old Sega go.
Microsoft is just a rich corporation playing at videogames. Their games are average. They suck at running studios.
But i can imagine those invested in the console war will have a bad day.
Dunno why though. This is a much better situation than Sega cause MS will continue to develop games mostly intact (until they mismanage and close the studios). Just have to buy a Playstation or nintendo instead and get a much better selection. It's a win for them too, even if they don't see it.
But i already see them describing it as merely a bump and streaming in where it's at. I don't see it. There will always be lag and the experience will never be better than having a console. Responsiveness matters in gaming.
@RudeAnimat0r we will see how long that lasts if everything comes over.
I see a future where they buy Sony outright. When happens I’m done with video games.
There's alot of people in the comments that don't seem to realise what a loss leader is and that MS is a 3 trillion $ company
I also enjoy starfield. Definitely looking forward to some of the big updates
@Kraven Dolby vjsi8, Dolby Atmos, Dolby Vision, gamepass. Been in thr eco system since the 360 days and that's what I own all my games on and all my friends play 🤷 I imagine it's the same for millions of others.
My ps5 is just for exclusives tbf
@Porco subscription services and most likely gamepass and PS+ are here to stay.
60FPS on PS5 OR im not playing it fake playstation
I'm curious: if these titles sell well on Playstation will Microsoft double down on the strategy or will it make them think "these games are important" and hold on to more of them.
PlayStation players should play Starfield even though it hasn't gone over well with gamers
@Yoop
Microsoft and Sony have been saying all along that we will be able to play games at 60 fps on Xbox and PlayStation without any problems, and this is how PlayStation and Xbox are struggling with 60 fps in games. That's why I don't trust what Microsoft or Sony say anymore.
@Ken_Kaniff
Sunset Overdrive mora isto doći na PlayStation jer je izvrsna igra.
Sorry I’ve got No Man’s Sky on PSVR2 why would I need this lol
They always said game exclusivity will be a case by case basis and at the end of the day it's still better to play these games for free on gamepass the pay full price on PlayStation. I actually really enjoyed the game glad more people get to try it
@IndoorEnthusiast why buy it at all? Much cheaper to play it on gamepass
As someone who has always owned all 3 consoles as an adult and never been into console wars, this is great news. It's great news for players and it's great news for Microsoft's bank account. Hardcore Xbox fans won't like it but MS are the best at finding where the Billions/Trillions of dollars are. Even though they might not yet be ready to fully leave the home console route going down the publishing route long term is a very smart move. You can publish digital and cloud games but you can't publish consoles.
@Bingoboyop nothing has changed they always said game exclusivity would be case by case basis even in court.
@IAmAshCohen17 SEGA are doing great now and consoles won't be around for ever.
@lightningbolt79 You know why they bought Activision Blizzard that will make a difference but in the end do the consoles they release and their own games such a big profit I doubt it.
I think MS initially hoped it would be a system seller but the game flopped. Now they need it on PS to get as much money as they can from it, and if they can eventually turn it around ala NMS, Cyberpunk etc, they will then make the sequel exclusive.
I was one of the guys who bought an Xbox Series X for Starfield and a couple other exclusives. Other than that, I am mostly playing on PS5. This is good news because I don’t hate the Xbox, but I barely touch it. Better to have everything on my PlayStation.
As for the game itself, Starfield is not great, but it is not terrible either. Just a little disappointing and didn’t live up to expectations.
Would love to play Starfield on PS5! I know it’s received mixed reviews, but I think I’d enjoy it.
@8bit4Life I did exactly the same thing. I also got Game Pass Ultimate for free for 12 months with a broadband deal. Definitely agree with you about Starfield being not great but not terrible either. Saying that, I've sunk hundreds of hours into it.
@lightningbolt79 Xbox is obviously failing as a console brand, but it might become a successful games publisher.
The moment Microsoft's first-party games such as Starfield begin to release on PlayStation, there will virtually be no logical reason to buy an Xbox.
This has "Sega" written all over it.
It's amazing how many people are listing all of the Xbox games they'd love to play on PlayStation considering the 'Xbox has no games' line that most people seem to like shouting here.
I can easily see a digital only Series X releasing and Microsoft having the strategy of day one Game Pass releases on Xbox/PC and £/€/$70 releases happening 6 months later on PlayStation.
What won't help them is if 3rd parties decide themselves to not make games for Xbox at all based on Microsoft not chasing new system owners.
Xbox/Microsoft are not game developers they are publishers. They haven't been for a long time and because of this they are continually behind the 8 ball.
Until they shift their focus to developing new and unique in-house ip's (rather than just buying out studios) that actually generate interest and review well, consumer confidence will always sway towards PS and Nintendo.
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Does this mean Kojima's 'OD' is going to be coming to PS5 as well? Since that's the only reason I'm considering buying an Xbox in the future, and I'd prefer not to.
@Bingoboyop
It is ironic that promising their exclusives to PS5 would have helped them during the FTC hearings and probably reduced the backlash they're going to get from their loyal fans. However, I'm 99 percent sure that the decision was taken recently.
Have you looked at the xbox console sales in 2023. They dropped to about 7 million (from 10-11) while playstation is on another league (20-25). And this happened while the Series X was on its biggest sale cut yet, and when microsoft gobbled up activision.
So likely the shareholders asked questions when the numbers came in, and Microsoft heads panicked and announced these drastic actions.
One must keep in mind that America is much more capitalist than Sony and Nintendo's Japan. The numbers need to be always be going up, and if not, drastic actions are taken. Ideals, visions, beliefs, long term strategies all come second.
People like gaming's Kojima that may have a dedicated audience but don't do well in the mainstream are likely to be a thing in Japan, not America. And why the biggest Anime's tend to be targeted to a certain demographic but Hollywood blockbuster's tend to be four quadrant, targeted to all.
@Troubbble I think that was supposed to be a cloud only game.
@JSnow2 con man? Where's your gamepass you're getting ripped off with ps plus calling the gamepass guy a con man
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