
Roblox is genuinely breaking brave new ground, enticing users to "make anything you can imagine" using the in-game development tools provided and finding massive success in the process. It seems Sony really was onto something with Dreams, but it stumbled in the execution. The Roblox platform currently boasts an astonishing 71 million users globally, and part of the appeal is the tantalising prospect of those users creating a game, monetizing it, and publishing it for other players to enjoy, all of it in-app. But with more than three million "Roblox developers" already, many of them seemingly younger, accusations of child exploitation have been brewing for some time.
In an interview conducted during GDC, Eurogamer followed up on its earlier line of questioning, asking Roblox Studio head Stefano Corazza about the game's growing reputation. While some have suggested that Roblox's business model (which reportedly pays creators on average 28.9 cents per dollar spent) is taking advantage of budding developers, Corazza says the creators he works with feel like it's a "gift", offering a way out of poverty in extreme cases:
"I don't know; you can say this for a lot of things, right? Like, you can say, 'Okay, we are exploiting, you know, child labour,' right? Or, you can say: we are offering people anywhere in the world the capability to get a job, and even like an income. So, I can be like 15 years old, in Indonesia, living in a slum, and then now, with just a laptop, I can create something, make money and then sustain my life."
Corazza goes on to explain that "there's always the flip side of that when you go broad and democratised — and in this case, also with a younger audience". He later boasts "our average game developer is in their 20s" and that he's "heard from developers that — as teenagers — had millions of players on the platform".
He says that if you were to speak to these lucky few, they'd tell you a different story: "They didn't feel like they were exploited! They felt like, 'Oh my god, this was the biggest gift; all of a sudden, I could create something, I had millions of users, I made so much money I could retire.' So I focus more on the amount of money that we distribute every year to creators, which is now getting close to like a billion dollars, which is phenomenal." A Roblox PR representative present during the interview added that "the vast majority of people that are earning money on Roblox are over the age of 18”.
Does Roblox sound like a situation ripe for exploitation? Do you believe Corazza, that the platform and opportunities offered are a "gift" to burgeoning developers? Let us know in the comments section below.
[source eurogamer.net]
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The only thing it is keeping it back is a current-gen version of the game. There is a limit it can do over back compact mode. The user base is growing for PS5 and could take advantage of the hardware. I even asked them about it, but all I got was a boilerplate response that didn't answer any of my questions.
Just wow, that CEO comes across as astoundingly stupid. No not dim, or evil or even grossly arrogant.... literally and dangerously...stupid.
I'm all for people being able to make a living out of something they are passionate about but I'm also very wary about the potential to exploit people too. I can't take anybody seriously who uses the word "like" in every sentence they utter..it just makes me think they have an extremely limited vocabulary.@Loamy not everybody is a predator..
I’ve been fortunate enough to not have to spend any time in a “slum”, but if I did, I can’t imagine I’d be seeing a whole lot of laptops. Internet access might be a little hard to come by, as well.
I'm sure the Roblox Studio head is bound to give us an impartial unbiased view of the situation /s
This honestly reads like r/nottheonion
I don’t understand how anyone’s being exploited when it’s their decision to create or not. Nobody’s holding a gun over their head, it’s the parents job to decide if any kid should be involved.
@Dodoo I couldn't agree more. But it's so typical of our society to criticize others. Hardly ever ourselves.
That’s it, the straw that broke the camels back, satire is truly, irrevocably dead. If a joke website ran this as a capitalist meme it would be rightly considered ludicrous.
“Don’t you see, we’re doing these poverty-stricken people a FAVOUR. Look at that one, he has a steak dinner. A STEAK dinner, at the restaurant I now own. They always look forward to their annual treat. Wow, we’re doing such good.”
Roblox boss' mother must be very proud
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Everyone should watch the two documentaries by People Make Games on Roblox in 2021 (go on YouTube). Both delve deeper in the shady practices in Roblox.
What % does Mm pay the people making games in Dreams? I think the only way to say if it’s exploitive or not is to compare it to similar games. Oh and Fortnite, I know they have creator codes. Do people make “games” in Minecraft? I know my kids had a friend and a cousin who each paid to set up their own server, my kids chipped in for 1 of those, not sure if Minecraft was paying any of them?🤷🏻♂️
Basically it really comes down to your hegemonic view on capitalism. If you think work is exploitive, then this is, but if you think it’s a way for people to make money, then it isn’t.
Narrator voice says “it is” but that’s just me, getting trickled down on.💦
Proponents of child labour would always claim it was a gift, or provides underage workers with an economic advantage. The reality is that companies like this thrive on exploiting desperate people trying hard to improve their circumstances. The law in the west says you can't get kids to work - and there are good historical reasons for this legislation if people are prepared to look. Horrific examples in fact. Just because this isn't happening up a chimney, down a mine, or in a cotton mill, doesn't make it any better. It is still displacing vital time for kids to learn and adjust to society properly, as well as enough leisure time to ensure their physical health is not put at detriment (musculo-skeletal).
At a 30% cut it sounds like exploitation all around, no matter what your age as a developer. But child labour is the worst part.
I'm sure there are a couple of nice examples for Roblox to use, but how much does the average developer get? How much time do they put in. Is it therefore compliant with minimum wage laws more widely?
There are also other issues. Perhaps those in not well off countries or communities are chasing money any way they can to make sure their families can eat, instead of spending time in education to improve their future prospects. One day Roblox will be dead and buried. Then what for these people, once they are past state education age? The owness and cost on education to retrain will be put back on to them.
If roblox are serious about bringing people out of poverty then find better ways to make that happen than child labour. Support kids, don't sacrifice their futures for the moribund aim of ever higher profits...
@Hyena_socks @Sarcasmatwork Nothing quite screams "Hi, I'm a Tech Bro" like talking about kids in slums in impoverished countries being able to be saved by laboring for western technologists on their laptops.
It's cool though because all those slum kids in Starbucks-less countries will now be better positioned for a future where big western studios can hire them as replacements for pennies after they have mass layoffs in their western studios. Then they can afford a better laptop to do the work on. Which will be mandatory, of course. Humanitarianism is so beautiful.
Valve take 30% cut off everything were as Roblox take 75% off everything
@rjejr dreams isn't monetizesd it's just people making stuff for fun/display talent as far as I know. No idea how Fortnite/Minecraft works.
The basic idea is fine I think, an engine for aspiring programmers/creators to make some money and learn to program. But seems from my limited understanding of Roblox, claims of those people being taken advantage is muddying the concept somewhat.
@Balosi Yeah I think the 2 topics are blurring people's opinions.
I agree with most comments here.
Roblox isn't exploiting anyone, its a platform that anyone can jump in learn and create a game, be it a basic jumping game, to a free form resturant management or retail simulation.
My kids play the games all the time and honestly ill give them credit because we may all look at roblox and looks like a cheap version of dreams with its blocky awful art style.
But the actual inner workings of it, can be actually quite deep and requires a level of skill to make a decent game on the platform.
My kids made me play and I've actually found 3 or 4 games on the platform which I've played all the way through and honestly if the graphics were made mainstream and sold as a proper game it would pass as fully fledged game.
I mean all the power to them. The only ones moaning are the jealous ones who want to make money from games but just dont have the skills to and see these games as an exploit of children.
All the power to roblox, my kids love it and ive seen some stuff which ive enjoyed playing.
What the hell is he smoking?
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