Sony has shared in its first fiscal year 2024 financials report that 2.4 million PS5 consoles were sold during Q1, meaning the current-gen system has now sold 61.7 million units overall. This is a decrease of 900,000 purchases when stacked against the same period last year, though Sony did make gains in other sectors like an increase in operating income and improved game software and network services sales.
The millions of yen Sony has generated is at its highest in an entire year across network services, which it states is due to PS Plus. Sales of PS5, PS4 titles dropped by almost two million compared to Q1 in fiscal year 2023, down to 53.6 million. Of those, six million purchases were for a first-party game published by Sony. While some comparisons are down, the ratio of physical to digital purchases on PlayStation is at its highest for a year. 80 per cent of all games sold across PS5, PS4 were for a digital copy, sourced from the PS Store.
Following its Q1 figures report, the company has revised its gaming division's forecasts slightly, increasing its sales and operating income by three per cent.
Whether these results are seen as good for Sony and PlayStation or not depends on who you talk to. Bloomberg reporter Takashi Mochizuki thinks it's a concern that the pace of PS5 hardware sales has declined faster than what the market expected. Meanwhile, Christopher Dring of GamesIndustry.biz thinks sales of third-party games could drive PS5 console purchases as it makes up for the comparatively weaker first-party lineup for 2024.
Speaking to VGC, industry analyst Dr Serkan Toto said the numbers are actually "quite solid" for what has been a quiet period for PlayStation Studios output. "The big weak spot, however, is hardware sales. The year on year drop is not surprising but quite significant. Sony can only hope that Astro Bot or the one or other new games coming this year will make people go out and buy PS5s again."
[source sony.com, via videogameschronicle.com]
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@Frmknst I count 17. But yeah, that’s still not many.
@AhmadSumadi @Frmknst I think "not on the other major console family" is the new exclusive and there's more than enough of that to make people choose PS for all the non-exclusive stuff
Mochizuki has always been pessimistic on Sony so I'm not surprised.
Personally I think being behind to the ps4 by 1.8million units while being in a recession period, having covid shortages and having a price Increase while already being more expensive is actually stronger than I expected. I don't think it'll beat the PS4 lifetime but I also never expected it to because the covid bump was false growth (I don't think the Switch 2 will hit the Switch 1 numbers either).
People forget that The PS2 was also bolstered by extremely strong third parties mixed with First party software.
I do think two areas Sony need to improve on is building hype (TGS may bring this back) and mixing more smaller AA games from younger teams (miles morales type) to keep the first party looking strong.
That's a lot of people who want to play FIFA and COD in HD.
@Voltan I agree. I choose PS because I’m a fan of PS franchises (GOW, Horizon, Uncharted, TLOU, etc). The rest just comes with the territory.
I held back from buying a PS5 Thinking they'll release PS5 Pro well they didn't and my PS4 slim is breaking apart and I need a new console so PS5 Slim it is.
@breakneck yeah, people tend to forget the first year of the console was marred by COVID and parts shortages. It was basically a flex to be able to grab one online.
PS5 is doing very well but it needs a price cut. Problem is the margins are so thin they don't seem to be able to do it.
Will be interesting to see how they approach this problem moving forwards.
Sony have had a great year for games. Their first-party output has been dire, but they've made very smart 2nd party partnerships with games that are game of the year candidates. Astrobot yet to come 🤖
By far Sonys worst console.
All the success the Playstation 5 enjoys is based on the great console Sony had with the Playstation 4. ( My fav Gen )
Crazy how a few of top executives can decide the fate of an entire Brand that been around for generations.
Lets hope Sonys preparation for the Playstation 6 is much more sophisicated and thoughtout.
PS5 will be fine as more and more games start releasing for only it and not PS4. All those holdouts will be forced to upgrade to play the new Assassin's Creed, Monster Hunter, GTA6, and more games that become PS5 only. Pro will give them a boost too as some current owners upgrade.
With all the talk of the Pro is it any wonder? Then again, I guess the hardcore who know and care about such things already have a PS5 so where unlikely to have been in the running to get another one.
Saying that, the wife’s helldivere and elden ring obsession did lead us to get another ps5 last week. We figure with the sale and the option to play more multiplayer games together it was an ok investment.
Proof that just because something sells more doesn’t make it good. The PS3 and PS4 built modern playstation and it’s success
@get2sammyb 2.4m PS5 consoles sold in Q1, after a significant price cut compared to the original price. 2.1m Switch consoles sold in Q1, for almost the original price, dominated by the most expensive OLED model. Sony earns a lot with PSN sales of third parties, but this is dangered if the gaming market shifts towards PC gaming. And the bread-and-butter business still seems to be PSN sales for PS4s.
The big question for me is: When most new releases (especially FC, Madden, CoD, GTA6) will not target PS4 anymore, will PS4 users upgrade to PS5? Or will they move to PC (= SteamDeck) or Xbox Series S?
@get2sammyb I don't think it does, it's sold 60m at full price despite all the economical problems it's faced. Plus like Christopher Dring says "CoD and Assassin's Creed will shift units" not to mention GTAVI possibly coming in the next 18 months.
Well, good news. 😊
I really enjoy my PS5 with 99.99% of 3rd party kids games on it.
I really appreciate the effort from publishers like Outright Games, Microids, Merge Games, Game Mill, etc for keep providing 3rd party kids games and the revival kids franchise games.
So far, PS5 is the best PlayStation machine i have ever played after PS2.
@AdamNovice Don't get me wrong, the sales are very good. Just think it would open up a new audience if they could drop it a bit.
@AdamNovice also, Sonys big games are supposed to start dropping next year onwards as per their previous financial calls. This year feels like a gap year after 2022 and 2023 had so many big releases.
@LowDefAl I agree. But I think they could try leaning into looking a little less corporate. I don't know how to explain it. Maybe just have a little more of a presence. I think the tv/movie stuff is helping with that. Otherwise I actually prefer this 'keep you cards close to your chest approach'
@thefourfoldroot1 That’s a good point. Sony has tried to keep details about the Pro under wraps, but I suspect there’s a group of people who are holding off on buying a PS5 until the Pro comes out. Or at least until the official announcement is made with specs and pricing details so they can make a decision between going Vanilla or Pro.
@Voltan Yeah, the ‘console exclusive’ (a la Stellar Blade, Rise of the Ronin, FF7 Rebirth, etc, etc) is the new draw.
Still, I’d like to see maybe a little more first party emphasis. I’m not convinced Astro Bot is the game that will really shift units, but it will help. Not that I think Astro Bot will be bad, quite the contrary. But I don’t think it will make a splash like Wolverine or Ghost of Tsushima 2.
@JAMes-BroWWWn On the otherhand the PS4 was under-powered from the off, had no BC at all and a lot of its better features weren't there at launch. Personally i think the PS5 is the better console even if last gen was a better gen.
GTAVI is going to shift millions of PS5’s alone
Once GTA 6 and the new Monster Hunter come out next year the PS5 consoles are going to shift a tonne of units.
Why do you still report anything from this Bloomberg reporter, he's a known PlayStation hater.
There might not have been many PS5 only first party exclusives yet but Sony sure have made sure there's a lot do third party exclusives to tie us over.
61.7 million units in less than 4 years sounds great especially with covid limited the production / supply.
Next year it will sell a lot more with GTA 6, MH Wilds, Death Stranding 2, Venom spin-off?, new RE?, KH 4, and who knows what Sony gonna announce from ND, Sucker Punch, Bluepoint, etc.
@Mr-Elusive the pro is mostly like coming in October or November.
@Th3solution Agreed - that's a game a lot of console owners will be very happy with, but not necessarily one a lot of people would get a console for
@get2sammyb I expect permanent price cut by next year to line up with GTA 6.
@Retron
That's a lot of people who want to play FIFA and COD in HD.
I'm sorry but that's not true at all!!!!!
Actually We like to call it EA Sports FC 24 nowadays
@Voltan I’m trying to decide whether I’m going to buy it at launch. I feel confident it’s going to be a ‘high 80’s’ Metacritic type of game but I don’t know if I have the bandwidth to add it to my pile of shame. 😅 But at the same time I like to give smaller titles my financial support whenever possible. I’m sure it will still sell a few million without my help though.
@get2sammyb Money isn't real anymore, people have crypto and record (in the US) credit card debt. What's another $400 or $500?
https://www.lendingtree.com/credit-cards/study/credit-card-debt-statistics/
The PS5 needs big AAA Sony type games, Uncharted, GoW, Spiderman, Horizon, to keep releasing every year to keep the console in the news. Sony really shoved their foot way down into the back of their mouth w/ that stupid "We know generations" comment, whatever it was and how ever much it was taken out of context. The reality is the PS5 can be viewed as a PS4 Pro Phat w/ the amount of games dual released on PS4 and PS5. And we saw a list lately of top played games, and it was all stuff like Fortnite, Robolox and Minecraft, w/ the usual sports games and FPS, I'm guessing most of which are available on PS4 or PC.
PS5 is the most unnecessary console gen upgrade there's ever been, carried I'd say more by Squenix w/ FF16 and FF7 Rebirth than Sony w/ Ratchet & Clank and well what else exactly? So sure, they could drop the price and sell a few more, Fortnite looks slick on PS5, or they could have had another Uncharted ready. Or made GoW and Horizon "we know generations" exclusive.
When it's all said and done PS5 will probably be fine and hit 100mil and the gen will last 8 years like Switch, 10 years if you count all the dual releases w/ PS6 it's first couple of years, who's sales will similarly be stymied by dual releases but turn out fine in the end. Point is, it's not the price, it's the lack of exclusive 1st party big Sony AAA games. The should have had Wolverine ready last quarter, he's kind of in the news lately.
Oh, and when PS6 releases as a digital only console, remember this sentence from August 2024:
"80 per cent of all games sold across PS5, PS4 were for a digital copy, sourced from the PS Store."
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@DennisReynolds the PS4 was underpowered because Sony knew people didn’t want to pay the price for an expensive system. Considering inflation the PS3 was a stout system. 600$ brand new was a lot of money over a decade ago. And the PS3 was designed as an impressive system for the time. Also Sony learned its lesson from the cell engine gamble which didn’t take off as expected. Hence the PS4 going the cheaper route in terms of SOC and chassis. I doubt we will ever receive a well built beast of a PlayStation again.
This has been the quietest generation I can ever recall whether it's PS5 or Xbox Series X/S. I really do hope this changes soon but I'm not holding my breath. I spend most of my gaming time playing on Switch and PC/Steam Deck now. I do play on PS5, just not as often to what I used to.
@RubyCarbuncle same like you. I haven’t turn on my ps5 for almost like 4/5 months. Most of my gaming is on steam deck oled. Dont get me wrong,im not hate the ps5,im just prefer a handheld 😂. And black myth wukong together with monster hunter wilds gonna make my ps5 working again.
How anyone can say there has been no games this year is just stupid sorry. Go on the store, click filter and set best selling.. then open your eyes
@Mikey856
It doesn't make sense. The games might not be specifically first party, which, for some reason, people think is the only thing that counts, but the PS5 has plenty of great exclusives and many of them from this year. We got Helldivers 2 and Final Fantasy Rebirth so close to each other for example and they are both top tier.
The "PS5 hAz No GaEmZ" crowd is just wild. Absolutely wild.
@rjejr I get what you’re saying, especially with the fact that the most played games on the console are cross gen or also on PC, but isn’t this what the public asked for? There was a huge emphasis on the fact that this generation needed to be backwards compatible and if it wasn’t it would have been the death knell for the brand. So Sony wisely chose to double down on backwards compatibility.
But I agree that as a result the “we believe in generations” quote hasn’t aged well. However, there’s still probably more PS5 exclusive games than most people give them credit for. Even discounting the third party PS5 (console at least) exclusives like Stellar Blade, RotR, FF7Rebirth, FF16, etc. and the many, many multiplatform generation exclusives which are not playable of PS4.
@The_Wailing_Doom I have found there has been a torrent of good games this year from the sublime Helldivers Rebirth and Ronin to equally fantastic Dragons Dogma and Shadow of the Erdtree. Stellar Blade how did I forget that
@Mikey856
Absolutely. People are making no sense.
Anecdotally, I hear that the new College Football game is selling PS5s in the USA. If that series was your thing, you've been happily playing a PS3/360 generation game this whole time, with no reason to upgrade even to last gen. I dunno if Sony's Q1 covers July, but we might see a bump for the launch of College Football 25.
It's still shocking, how few native PS5 exclusives, we got, this far into the generation. If this problem continues (might get worse) next gen, then I would probably wait with picking up a PS6, until half the gen has passed.
Sony: "We believe in generations", yeah right...
@rjejr I don't really agree with this, though, because I think console generations are different to what they used to be.
It's more about playing your favourite games in the best quality available now. Similar to upgrading your PC graphics card!
PS5 is a much better system to play on than PS4, even if it shares a lot of its library with that console.
@get2sammyb this absolutely! PS5 is miles ahead of PS4
The fact that sales dropped only by 2.4M without any other game besides Stellar Blade and Rise of the Ronin to carry hardware sales means the console still has momentum.
I find the decline in sales compared to the Q1 of last year speaks volumes.
Also the 80% digital sales statistics, are there only games included that you can get on disc or did they include AW2 and BG3 ( I am aware it’s available in physical form but not everywhere and quite expensive) and all the other digital only games?
PS5 sells 2.4m in a quarter in its 4th year, down year on year, behind it's predecessor at the same time "strong sales".
Switch sells 2.1m in a quarter in its 8th year at full price, down year on year "poor sales and demand has slowed".
Weird world we live in.
And then there's Xbox.
Poor, poor Xbox. Down 40% one year then another 30% the following year. Imagine going from 1m a quarter to 600k, then down to 420k a quarter. Yikes
@Steel76 Well PS5 has 698 games with a native PS5 version while Xbox Series consoles only have 438 so they are still doing okay in that regard, especially compared to the competition but of course they aren't all exclusives.
@Haruki_NLI
They deserve it, honestly. I think it's karma.
Hell even Xbox got a game in 24 !
@Haruki_NLI @NoHope Last year was a record breaking year for console sales for them so it is no suprise they are down compared to that.
I'm just waiting for the Pro
@JAMes-BroWWWn Took the words right out of my mouth. PS5 as well as Xbox Series X/S have just been dreadful when compared to previous generations.
It's hard to tell at this point if the slump is due to a lack of major must have games releasing to move hardware, or if the console is simply less desirable than predecessors, especially for last gen owners (as we see EA pivot to supporting PS4 still.) What we do know, however, is as Xbox sales crater, PS5 isn't showing an uptick to match it. Those customers aren't switching to PS5, they're just abandoning console purchases. That can't bode very well.
Either way, though, when the report basically says "sales are way down, revenues are way up" it makes one really start to wonder what exactly they're paying for.
@MrMagic
Yeah, I meant proper PS5 exclusives, games not available on any other console. Stuff like Returnal, R&C Rift Apart, Demon Souls remake, etc.
@AhmadSumadi 15 of those are PS4 games enhanced for PS5, and it’s not just a Sony problem, the industry still refuses to let go last generation consoles (just see Jedi Survivor).
Should imagine sales will blow up again with GTA 6
This could not be happening. Consoles are dead and the industry is doomed.
@MrMagic
I was looking at the Nintendo Switch sales in the same quarter, Nintendo sold ONLY 300.000 less units and for me it makes the PS5 sales look mediocre at best.
And a general thing, Sony shipped 61.7 million units, they did not sell all of them yet.
Cool.ps5 does need a price cut.it will sell a lot of consoles.word up son
Sonys weak first party output is a big reason.
@Frmknst Imagine next year when the exclusives start to come
@Frank90 Let me guess, it was a PC elitist who said that, right?
@The_Wailing_Doom I find that extremely weird, tbh. I never played so much on my PS5 since the PS2/PS3 era, so many great games to play, plus I bought the VR2. I just wish I had more time to enjoy so many games.
@Th3solution I suppose I could have elaborated on "exclusives" with "system seller" exclusives. People aren't lining up to buy a PS5 for Returnal or Stellar Blade, but Spiderman 2 (forgot that one before) type games. Quality over quantity. I've owned every Sony and Nintendo console since PS1 and Gamecube but I have a 3 game rule, 3 games that I must play. PS5 is in year 4 and it barely has that. I think I bought mine b/c I finally could, and FOMO, as much as anything else.
PS5 has about as many exclusives as "New 3DS" had, and Nintendo doesn't even consider "New 3DS" anything other than a system refresh. In Sony's defense PS4 Pro has zero exclusives, and PS5 Pro (yes I do believe it's real b/c history) probably won't either, but in return PS5 has to share.
And yes, it is what the people wanted, to be able to play last gen games on PS5, backwards compatibility. But just b/c it can play last gen games doesn't mean it shouldn't have it's own next gen games. I feel like if GoW:R and HZW had stayed next gen exclusive sales could be up a bit. Without a price cut. Maybe Ghost of Tshusima 2 will keep things going. And Wolverine. (Full disclosure I'm a big Wolverine fan since his first appearance in Hulk in 1974, yes I'm that old.)
Much like PS3 was battered by Xbox 360 in the beginning but then made it's way to 80mil PS5 should do fine in the end, but for right now, games would help more than a price cut. Like a $50 price cut, sure if PS5 is $150 tomorrow it's gonna sell.😂
@get2sammyb "PS5 is a much better system to play on than PS4"
Yes, and that's why PS5 has sold 60 million, for the new hardware. But if you want the hardware to be constantly sold out cutting the price isn't going to do that over the long run, new games will. People know we don't get price cuts anymore, we get more expensive Pro's and $200 controllers and the 7 year old Switch w/ a new screen for $50 more. (8 year old Switch launched at $299, now $350, it set the bar.)
Waiting for a sale is wasting your time, if you want it you buy it now, that's what credit cards and payment plans are for, things don't get cheaper any more. And people would need to buy it now if it had more system selling exclusive games.
Guess we're just going to have to disagree on this one. 😁
@Americansamurai1
So I have given up because I believe that there is no reason for PS5 Pro to exist ok let me explain PS4 Pro happened because Normal PS4 didn't support 4K, PS5 supports 8k but they refuse to release an update for it anyways I have heard so many rumours about features that maybe included in PS5 Pro I could start my own website. Salute
@Mr-Elusive yeah you should be fine with the base PS5. You're going to notice a massive difference with the PS5 from PS4. Ps5 doesn't sound like it's about to blow up lol.
@get2sammyb didn't they make a price cut at the first quarter and after they seeing the couldn't catch the number they where predicted? I remeber finding ps5 slim for -99€ back then. Not an official price cut but they did lower it for some period of time to boost sales
@Mr-Elusive enjoy your slim and for me the PS5 hasn’t even been pushed hardware wise, so feel no need for a PS5 Pro. Astrobot is the best game on the system and included for free 👍🏻
@rjejr fair comments but things don’t get cheaper anymore made me chuckle as, try telling that to the poor souls who dropped £530 on PSVR2 for it now to be £330 🙈😋
@The_Wailing_Doom the only reason people parrot the first party line so hard now is because MS went hard with buying publishers and Devs who already had games in the pipeline, so it nicely fits their the narrative. Its right up there along with the other commonly touted line that sony has no exclusives if they come to PC eventually, whilst conveniently ignoring the fact that virtually every Xbox game is on PC day 1.
At this poinr it honestly makes no difference wether a game is made by a first party studio or a 3rd party exlusive for a specific console. The only thing that makes a game exclusive is if its available on the other major consoles or not, and PS stil have plenty of those.
@rjejr "PS5 is the most unnecessary console gen upgrade there's ever been, carried I'd say more by Squenix w/ FF16 and FF7 Rebirth than Sony w/ Ratchet & Clank and well what else exactly"
Spider-man 2 sold 11 million copies which the numbers sold more than FF XVI & Rebirth combine. And we're not even talking about Miles Morales, GOW Ragnarok, Horizon FW, GT 7, or Helldivers 2 which i'm sure PS5 version sold a lot.
@PuppetMaster In my 2nd post, or maybe it was my 3rd or 4th or 5th, I did mention that I forgot Spiderman 2 in my first post, so already covered that mistake on my part. And I played it too. 😜
Just b/c some PS5 games sold well doesn't mean people bought a PS5 to play those games, it could just as well mean people who bought a PS5 bought any AAA game they could b/c they already spent $500 on the console. And it doesn't mean PS5 wouldn't have sold more if HZW and GoW:R weren't PS5 exclusive. I'd have to assume it would have, though the games may have sold less w/ the PS4 install base.
@Luigia "things don’t get cheaper anymore"
I stand corrected, things worth owning don't get cheaper anymore. Can probably get a Ford Pinto or Microsoft Zune pretty cheap if you can find one. 😂
@PuppetMaster "It could just as well mean people who bought a Switch or Xbox bought any AAA games" "your logic sounds silly af"
Maybe my logic sounds silly b/c you missed the point?
Switch exclusives Mario Odyssey and Tears of the Kingdom sell consoles
PS5 exclusives God of War Raganrok and Horizon Forbidden West sell consoles
Except GoW:R and HFW were NOT PS5 exclusives, they were also on PS4, where they sold copies. So people didn't have to buy a PS5 for them. But if they had a PS5 of course they were buying that version. People who already had a Switch weren't buying the Wii U version of Breath of the Wild.
So of course if people bought a PS5 for some other reason, Ratchet & Clank being the main big one, they were going to buy the PS5 versions of the other dual releases they wanted. But people who didn't buy a PS5 could still buy GoW:R and HFW on PS4 and not buy a PS5.
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