Shawn Layden, who formerly headed up PlayStation's first-party studios, reckons game consoles as we know them will eventually become "irrelevant".
Speaking in an interview with Eurogamer, the ex-Sony suit talked at length about where consoles are heading, pointing to the plateauing power curve and commoditised hardware found in current machines.
"Frankly, we have to start interrogating what the purpose is of a proprietary console, and whether that can continue to be true," Layden says. He discusses the huge leap in hardware from PS1 to PS2, and PS2 to PS3. Comparably, more modern transitions are becoming less and less impactful.
"PS3 to PS4 was just, like, getting the network thing [online gaming and features] done right. Then to PS5, which is a fantastic piece of kit, but the actual difference in performance... we're getting to the realm, frankly, where only dogs can hear the difference now," He says.
A PS1 to PS2 style jump in performance isn't going to happen, as we've "sort of maxed out there", he continues. "If we're talking about teraflops and ray-tracing, we're already off the sheet that most people begin to understand."
As well as diminishing returns with new hardware, Layden brings up how modern consoles are, under the hood, "pretty much the same chipset". While each console will have "their own OS and proprietary secret sauce", he thinks we're "pretty much close to final spec for what a console could be".
It all feeds into a broader point, which is that at some stage, the console under your TV won't matter at all. He thinks the real competition will come instead from what content they offer. "And content should be the competition for publishers, not which hardware you get behind," Says Layden. "I think we're at a point where the console becomes irrelevant in the next... if not the next generation then the next next generation definitely."
What are your thoughts on this matter? Do you think consoles will remain relevant for the foreseeable, or are we heading for a more homogenised hardware landscape going forward? Let us know in the comments section below.
[source eurogamer.net]
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This has probably been regurgitated for two decades. Maybe in 20 years when everyone has gigabit speed internet.
This guy talks about the same every 4 months LOL.
If we learned something about Wukong selling out the ps5 in China aka the homeland of pc and mobile gaming is that those days left for consoles are actually quite the number of years and who knows maybe the world ends firts.
Until everyone has access to amazing internet speeds and PCs become more affordable for masses, this isn't happening any time soon.
Yes, sure. People will stop buying new iPhone, Galaxy, Macbook, Dell as well since the technology leap is less impactful… That’s absurd in so many levels. Of course the content matters the most as always, but hardware will continue be important as long as gaming relies on local machines.
@DonJorginho Even if affordable and stable, PCs will always be for enthusiast/knowledgeable gamers and not the general public due to the technical know-how required to manage the OS and hardware
@kevinm360 agreed, console gaming only dies when gaming itself dies, as long as there is a market for video games there will be the market for consoles.
I don't know. Nintendo seems to be doing really well with the Switch, Sony still doing well with the PS5. It's really only Microsoft who are struggling with hardware sales.
The only real issue I might agree with Layden on is software. Like he said in earlier interviews, you need games that can sell the system, yes can have blockbusters, but needing a balance from Indies and AA too, not betting all on live-service and AAA 100M+ projects that could make or break a company or studio.
Also less priority on hardware would be a better solution as well, as we've now reached diminishing returns with the PS5 Pro, you can only go so far.
I don't need new things on my consoles, i just need an affordable machine that can run games decently, without too much headaches, and consoles can do that just fine, thank you.
A dedicated device will always have a place in the enthusiasts gamer's home because no matter how fast your Internet connection you are still introducing a huge amount of lag.
I guess the mainstream will be happy enough though and those that grow up with it will likely know no difference - so I guess it may change in time.
“ He discusses the huge leap in hardware from PS1 to PS2, and PS2 to PS3. Comparably, more modern transitions are becoming less and less impactful”
Yes, & games seem to be only getting bigger and bigger and taking so much longer for some reason; It’s all fluff now , unlike these 3 goated generations - the ps1/ps2/ps3 was peak playstation for first party + third party.
But he’s mostly right - there’s just hardly a point anymore in owning a console beyond its “plug n play” conveniency. PC does everything a console does & then some , with all console controllers & virtually all console exclusives being playable on it, and free online with better performance & mods. it’s like youre shooting yourself in the foot with a console these days.
i wish $ony & M$ would focus on pumping out console exclusives again , i hate to say it but, they need to copy nintendo right now 🤮 give us incentives to play our consoles over PC again ! the incentives being exclusive - EXCLUSIVES and unique console experiences again . stop trying to be an underpowered PC! bring back propriety software like the emotion engine and make consoles fun & quirky again.
@TheTraditional Better hardware makes for easier software development. Less needed optimization to run just as well will be helpful to making games and putting time elsewhere.
Also, VR definitely needs more hardware jumps.
I liked Shawn Layden when he was PlayStation CEO, though he was no Jack Tretton. Increasingly, I find myself more and more happy he is still not the CEO because he just has so many bad takes.
Only dogs can hear the difference? Nonsense, my ps4 was a jet engine and my ps5 is super quiet. I think he is at that age he should get his hearing checked
@The_Wailing_Doom “ He thinks the real competition will come instead from what content they offer. "And content should be the competition for publishers, not which hardware you get behind”
The big and exciting leaps for me are in VR tech. I agree, on a flat screen that’s metres away from your face, it’s getting to the point where you can’t tell the difference between this gen and last.
People buy consoles for the easy plug and play experience. I, for one, can appreciate the possibilities of a PC used for gaming, but I hate dealing with drivers, plugins, hardware issues, the many launchers for every game out there and buying my games on multiple digital stores, cause some are not on Steam and the alternatives to Steam aren't really on par for what they offer. Sure, things are better today, but I remember back in the days of Windows 7, I was still dealing with games crashing due to bad drivers, problems with some Windows updates, specific issues that needed me to completely reset my PC even, so my experience wasn't all that perfect. A console will be consistent. Sure, there are bugs, but I believe they have a place for people who want simplicity. Personally, I already own a Mac for work and school, I don't see the point of buying a PC "cause you can do more than gaming", I just won't use it for that and my favourite softwares are Apple-only so aside from gaming, I just don't see the point. But that's me. Maybe in the future we'll see the comeback of some simple interface you can enable to use a PC exclusively for gaming, like Media Center did back in the days to put a PC in the living room. It would need something like that to simplify the experience. Steam did experiment with that, but it was Linux based and it prevented a lot of games to be fully available, except through emulation. Also, a lot of console gamers love collecting physical games so they don't want to be limited to digital only with a PC. Lots of points here in favour of having a console. Sure, the entire cost of owning several accessories, games, the console, additional controllers, it all add up to the point of being the same cost than for a gaming PC, but with a PC you need to choose every component aside from the tower itself, which makes it a little bit harder for people who don't want to take the time to build their setup. I can't picture the father of a family of two kids taking the time to setup a PC in a living room for his kids just so they can play Minecraft or something, besides the kids will inevitably encounter issues that will need dad to intervene, more than once. Buying a console like a Switch solve the problem in this situation. With a PC in the living room, there's also the risk of kids misusing the device cause the kids don't know how to properly use it. The console world still has appeal to younger audiences and people who don't like messing around with settings, hardware and stuff like that. I think they will coexist for a long time before we talk about something else. The big change that's coming is cloud gaming, cause it would enable companies to get more revenues from subscriptions and also make a lot of devices compatible with gaming. Not saying I agree with the strategy, cause I think I overpay Netflix and all the other streaming sinkholes out there, subscription is a pain to manage, so I hope it won't come to that. I need my gaming on console and PC for the others who prefer that.
I kinda knew this would upset Playstation/console fans. I’m no fan of Layden but I find myself already using xCloud/Geforce Now/Amazon Luna more than my PS5 and I agree that the push towards console/hardware-agnostic future is the right way. No downloads, day one patches, hefty extra storage prices, gaming on pretty much any device otherwise available (smart tvs, fire sticks etc). It’s also cheaper than buying a console/PC. All your library available pretty much anywhere wherw there is decent internet (contrary to popular belief you don’t need NASA supercomputer internet speeds for it to work well).
Its not happening PlayStation will always have a console.word up son
This was said time and again. Alot of people myself included arent into PCs, don’t like streaming or have the ability to. Console is simple and easy, easily portable, etc.
dumb comments by layden..
@nomither6
He thinks AAA games are not worthwhile and also believes PlayStation will eventually be just a software publisher via their own or other cloud streaming services.
Absolutely agree with him, and Microsoft is already making all the preparations for it.
These companies keep spending a lot of money on games that only a certain percentage of people are playing them on proprietary consoles and the reality is that an open hardware systems are the future of gaming.
@thefourfoldroot1 Agreed. VR is where the generational leap is most apparent for me.
When I play PSVR2 I feel like I've just made the jump from Mega Drive to PS1.
I'm hyped as hell to fire up Behemoth this week.
@Shepherd_Tallon:
VR is and always will be a niche system thanks to the fact that most people suffer from some kind of motion sickness.
I think there will always be a market for a simple "plug and play" machine to play games.
I do think the idea of generations is slowly declining, though. It may get to a point where people only upgrade consoles either as enthusiasts or after their current machine dies. But support for multiple generations will continue to grow longer and longer.
Console will be fine except if your xbox
Consoles will continue to exist as long as people buy them. The PS5 is selling well and the Switch 2 next year will be printing money for Nintendo for the next 6-8 years.
he speaks a lot of sense, especially about the length of AAA games, but most people will still buy a console and play COD/FIFA on it.
I’ll stop gaming if consoles die. I can’t be bothered with PC gaming and I don’t want to stream my games. Here’s hoping Sony increases output on their 1st party titles that people have come to love and they continue to build those 3rd party relationships which will lead to more exclusives as well.
You know who said the same thing? Microsoft
You know who is also on the way out of hardware manufacturing? Microsoft.
Consoles will never cease to exist, they are way too convenient.
@nomither6 Sony are putting out 1st party games we had one 3 months back its just games take longer to make now. You think Sucker Punch can just pump out Ghost next year, a new Infamous the next and then close out the gen with Ghost 3? Those days are over. Hell you bring up Nintendo but the Switch only saw one big 3D Zelda and Mario game in its life time that wasn't also on the Wii U.
@Major_Player Yep, most likely.
The motion sickness doesn't hit me anymore, thankfully.
Regarding cloud gaming... I don't understand the appeal of a permanent subscription to a service. Paying 50$ a month, just pitching a bad example, but wouldn't be surprised if this fake price is actually the real one someday. Can you imagine the restrictions that come with it? Like, keep paying or you lose your save files, you may even have your account closed. It won't be like Netflix, where you can just stop paying for a while and come back and it's all there. PS+ make you lose your cloud saves if you stop paying, Nintendo do the exact same thing. The only one offering that for free is Microsoft, cause they have the largest infrastructure, Azure is big as hell, it powers the whole Microsoft ecosystem and beyond. But I digress. I am now only realizing that some of the services I pay for today are well overpaid, I pay for the privilege to be able to access them, not for using them on a daily basis. Companies lock features behind subscriptions. Cloud gaming will inevitably suffer from the same paradigm. Plus, there'll be a plethora of services that offer each some exclusives, so you end up paying, just like for streaming, for several services at once, for as long as you want. The easy access is tempting, but it means you need to constantly pay for something you could buy once and access whenever you want. I've seen ridiculous things when Apple pushed the shift toward the app subscriptions. I know apps cost money to develop, but making people pay 89.99$ a year for a calendar app is outrageous, even if the app is really that awesome. The same problem will occurs if cloud gaming take over, we'll face the exact same issues we currently face with app subscriptions and streaming services saturation. Pay more to enjoy it all, that's what they want. The other model, the one where you pay for streaming every games, one price per game, we've seen where Google failed hard with that model. Nobody wants to pay for the right to stream one game. The service could decide to pull the plug on that one game you bought, due to licensing issues. Of course, they'll try to mitigate the severity and maybe you'll be one of the lucky ones who can still stream the game, but it makes you entirely dependent on a company's plan regarding how they give you the service. They could jack up the price, make some important changes and then ask you for an upgrade fee to keep using that one game you "bought", but it's just for the right of streaming. I don't think a cloud gaming future is ever so bright for consumers, it'll only benefit companies in the long run. Plus, it opens the door to putting commercials in your streaming experience, which I loathe profusely.
I doubt it. There is clearly a proven market for consoles and if the day ever comes when there isn't? Well I guess I'll be primarily a retro gamer at that point. I just have no interest in streaming my games really and I just don't like the PC experience enough to make that my primary way of playing games.
Plug and play. And give me some exclusives! You *****!
I live in the middle of nowhere with barely enough internet speed to stream 720p videos, so if this comes to pass I'm royally f*cked.
But if the current console makers leave the market then hopefully someone new pops up and fills the void.
Worst case scenario I'll have my physical backlog and my retro machines. 😬
@gollumb82 Ok Mr. Ubisoft.
If consoles are no longer to be made, which company or companies get to set the baseline hardware for which games should be developed on?
If the only gaming hardware was PCs, would devs now target low-end specs to maximise sales in developing countries and make ugly looking games or go for cutting edge visuals where only 1% of the market with capable hardware can play and never be able to make a profit from? Either way it would be complete chaos without the minimum base standard that consoles provide and everyone would be worse off without them.
Everyone taking this as console won’t be a thing anymore when in fact that he talking about proprietary hardware…
There will still be “consoles”, but they just won’t be the branded colorful green, red, or blue boxes we have now. Just look at the Xbox and PlayStation now… there no difference between the two other than the fact one is blue and the other is green.
The Switch isn’t even actually proprietary hardware either… it off the shelf parts that can be found in the Nvidia shield that is vastly weaker as well. The only reason why you can’t play Switch games on the shield is cause Nintendo say so. And that the past we’re moving away from.
The future consoles will be nameless gray boxes that can play all games.
We're clearly heading for a digital streaming future so he's probably right, in which case xbox may have played a blinder...
Some people want to just switch on and play, have their hardware auto-updated and not have to worry about much. For that reasons consoles won't go anywhere. Children too, you couldn't just buy a young kid a PC and expect him to know what to do with it to get gaming. It doesn't work like that.
Nintendo Switch sales says otherwise....
PS5 sales are tracking at the same rate of PS4 as well.
Consoles are not dying and are Sony's main source of income across all their sectors. The only ones leaving consoles behind are those who are struggling to sell them.
Also we have already seen one of the biggest corporations on earth try their hand at an all streaming console and failed massively. I know some people would just love to see Playstation consoles disappear but it's just not happening.
I get what Layden is saying when it comes to the tech leap between console generations. The leap between PS4 and PS5 isn't as substantial as the other console jumps. I know the PS5 Pro helps show it more, but it's still not super crazy.
But consoles will still stay relevant due to the accessibility they present to players. I don't think they're going anywhere anytime soon.
I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve hard some idiot say this. It’s been quite a few generations now. It’s like someone saying, “There are magazines now so books will die out soon. Any day now…”
I don't believe in a common hardware to rule them all. x86 seemed impenetrable, but look at Apple now. Look at Qualcomm bringing their stuff to Windows laptops - and that's just the first step. In the future the story will repeat itself, with RISC V or other architecture to undermine the next dominance.
David Jaffe from June 2012:
"It's a declining market, I think," Jaffe explained. "That doesn't speak ill to any of them as pieces of hardware — it just speaks about the fact that the industry has changed, the business models have changed and the world has gotten even smaller with smartphones and tablets and the internet, and stuff like Gaikai and streaming. Look, consoles are going away. I think in ten years — probably sooner, but ten years is always the safe thing to say so you don't sound like an idiot — but here's what I'll say: I'll go on the record and say that the next generation of hardware will be the last consoles. And they should be."
I just don't see this happening because so many people (myself included) prefer the convenience of a "Plug and Play" machine that a console offers.
I have zero interest in building a PC, or the hassle of having to replace and/or upgrade specific parts of it. It all sounds like a big pain in the ass to me.
Plus I don't see Nintendo discontinuing gaming devices...who honestly thinks they're going to do that? Is Nintendo going to wake up one day and decide they're going to release all of their games on Steam? It's not gonna happen.
I can see Xbox/Playstation potentially doing that in the future but not Nintendo.
I have said this countless times on this site before. PS6/Next Xbox will be the last dedicated hardware from either.
Once everything is digital, all games will be downloaded onto a generic disguised PC under your TV. PlayStation and Xbox will be nothing more than an app to access their content. You'll be able to "buy" games, stream games or subscribe to something like Game Pass/PSN.
They will both instantly remove the enormous costs of R&D, manufacturing and shipping costs.
Content will be king and it will be all about the games rather than how many consoles have been sold.
Microsoft have been on this path for a while and have been playing the long game. Sony (in my opinion) have been too focussed on how many PlayStations they can sell.
The days of consoles are over. Now look at this totally original game my amazing company Tencent is working on called Light of Motiram! Its totally not a Horizon ripoff at all and has amazing microtransactions!.
Seriously why are we still listening to this guy? As far as I'm concerned his opinion is null and void after you sign a contract with the devil that is Tencent.
Way to cover all the bases Layden, maybe he should've added "next" a couple of more times just to be sure.
He's rambling on like an old man but I'm not surprised it must get tiring answering the same questions over and over and sounding like a broken record.
I guess there's a good reason why he's not SIE CEO anymore.
The same with David Jaffe who became senile and not making any sense.
Wow people didn't read the article or are misunderstanding him, he's not even talking about streaming or Google Stadia. If I understand him correctly, he means it won't matter anymore if you have a PS4, PS5, PS6, PS7 or their Pro counterparts or Xbox, a lot of games are going to be cross-gen except a few. Xbox has started porting to PS, only a matter of time PS sends exclusives to Xbox. Which console you have won't matter anymore, like the PC space, it'll just be about the games.
@AverageGamer Wow at least one other guy who read and understood the article. Shocked at the comments.
@PuppetMaster David Jaffe is the living “old man yells at cloud” Abe Simpson meme.
Remember when people started predicting the end of consoles when mobile games became a thing? Look how that turned out
In most cases the more or less best games are games which are developed exclusively for one platform, in my opinion. Even as we see right now where pc, xbox, ps are so close hardware wise, still the games exclusively developed for one platform are the best from a technologically point of view (of course technology alone does not make a great game).
But, then we seem to have reached a point where the cost to utilise all the technology to the latest is so high, that hardly any one ever does it. Also the technology got so complex that it is very difficult to make anything but small iterative changes, and we pretty much have reached the end of moore's law, and the performance gains from shrinking circuits only lead to small performance gains. In that sense the technological differences between the competitors will likely get smaller and smaller, and it will become more and more difficult to propose a compelling differentiator. Also backward compatibility may prevent progression, because no drastic changes will be possible without leaving the old library in the dust. Therefore, Mr Layden is likely right and it will be very difficult to propose something significantly different other than the brand name and the number at the end.
As already was mentioned, also for me the biggest differentiator right now would be VR, and there are also still significant differences between the competitors in the VR space. And it will take a while until VR games can be streamed at low enough latency.
@TheArt It not surprising that no one read the actual article… No one ever reads the article. This site and other sister site are only good at click baiting with title, and pulling people into the comments to argue.
What is he even talking about? Does he think everybody is going to be playing on PC? I can't see my 12 year old niece playing on a gaming PC instead of a Switch. That's not going to happen unless PC can become a console-like experience at a console-like price point.
@Medic_alert excellent point. People always forget to mention the lag! I'm in NYC with decent 700mbps internet but the lag.... This is why I'm still not sold on cloud gaming or streaming technology used in the likes of Flight Simulator 24. It's decent but still not as crisp as that which is running off your local SSD/console or PC.
I'll never game on PC. I'm on a computer 40 hours a week, not spending a solitary minute of leisure time on one.
One thing I've learned is that you can't predict what technology will do in the next 10 years with any degree of accuracy. What this tells me, though, is that Sony thinks they don't have anything revolutionary planned that won't be easily matched by the competition, which sounds like a self-fulfilling prophecy to me.
@nomither6 games becoming bigger, longer, and uncut are a monster created by Internet gamers who became too absorbed with how many hours it takes to complete a game. People will literally not buy a game they’re interested in due to the fact it’s “only” 20 hours. Devs started adding in bloat to sate those folks.
@AverageGamer the articles are there to read. It’s not the site’s fault if no one reads them. Also not the site’s fault if the comments section descends into arguments and bickering. We gotta blaming media for abhorrent human behavior.
@RobN Shawn Layden hasn't represented Sony for over 5 years now... instead he "advises" Tencent. The problem is that PlayStation needed to pivot to buy smaller studios to make smaller niche (but excellent) games. Instead they got rid of those studios in favour of fewer less profitable tentpole titles.
It seems, people now are all on board for NO EXCLUSIVES... however when you scratch, this view is generally from people that have either most or all of the platforms; and for them it doesn't matter if PlayStation or XBox disappeared.
Nintendo had the right idea - don't try to compete on power, but compete on IP. Sony's just invested too heavily on IP that can't be made quickly enough to be sustainable. The industry is going to lose something special if we just end up with consoles being cheap PCs without any identity of their own.
120 FPS plus at native 8K with Ray tracing. Don't think we've seen that yet have we? So there's definitely more to shoot for.
Nintendo already not caring about the hardware specs and selling millions of consoles and more numbers of exclusive games than imaginable.
Sony needs more games. Astrobot was a breath of fresh air and we need the return of old Sony with their smaller projects alongside the big budget narrative games
Doesn't surprise me, tech has hit a ceiling anyway. You can say what you want. PS4 to PS5 isn't that a bigger jump, slight cosmetics don't really change the experience anymore. A few raytraced puddles don't mean ***** in all honesty.
@CupidStunt totally agree 👍
@thebizniznizbiz maybe so but will that really make a big difference to the experience from 4k. Not really. Devs need to concentrate on brilliant games. This obsession with tech means nothing.
I don't see how setting up a gaming PC is easier or cheaper compared to 10-20 years ago. It still requires time, knowledge and money. It's fairy stable but things can go wrong, there can be problems with Windows optimization with different hardware and the list goes on. The number of people who want a separate, ready to go box is still the same too.
@windxtravelerx That is something a suit can't comprehend. A easy and affordable way to play games straight out of the box.
No drivers no issue if you have a strong enough graphicscard and even better no Windows, hoping for a good connection and games that are yours to play.
No massive case and more power friendly. A new 5090 will need 600 watt wow plus I always say consoles as a more efficient way to play.
And he hopes to get things like subscriptions services no more ownership just like Steam announced that you don't own any game.
@thebizniznizbiz I think we need more interesting games instead. It's getting more of the same all the time.
I read this stuff as “dedicated console”. If your phone could wirelessly output a 4k picture to your tv why have a box just for gaming under your tv?
And if you don’t think that’s ever going to be possible, well when I was a teenager phones were still landlines in homes and coin operated on the street, and look what they can do now.
You all come back here in 20, 30, 40 years and read all this stuff again. You’ll laugh. 😂
this argument is getting so old the PS6/7/8 will all have this same waffle as well! PlayStation consoles are not going anywhere for a long time yet.
People always respond to these claims with doubt and mockery. But it's hard to imagine this won't eventually come to be; I'm sure the general consumer would much rather buy a tv, phone, or cheap PC that can play the 4 yearly games they care about.
We're already basically there, just the streaming experience isn't quite where it needs to be and gaming PCs remain expensive and somewhat impenetrable. Those things are liable to change very soon, and the consumer will embrace these ways to play — just look at markets like China. It's not like just because consoles are the norm now, they'll never lose appeal. They've only really been a commercial force for 40 years now; they, and their market, are relatively young and haven't really proven their longevity.
I predict consoles will continue indefinitely, but will be relegated to a hobbyist device at some point. I think Sony and Nintendo will keep the console space alive and healthy for a while still, but consoles with mass appeal ends when they say so. And Sony's already looking at other platforms. While Nintendo is focusing on expanding its IP beyond gaming.
He's not saying consoles are going away, he's saying that the tech is homogenous across the board. That the competition is going to be in software not in the box itself.
And he's not wrong.
They're still going to have to sell us a box to play their software on because most people don't want to ***** around with a desktop. His point is the boxes are all just locked down PCs of essentially the same capability, that there's no difference in the various boxes themselves, that's how they're irrelvant, but the selling points will be the software.
I say we're essentially already there.
@GymratAmarillo Layden usually talks a lot of sense but his sudden pivot these last few years against proprietary consoles is weird. Wonder if it is a Tencent talking point.
I think ps3 to ps4 was pretty big for exactly why he said. Network infrastructure. I also think ps4 to ps5 was pretty big due to going from 1 minute plus loading screens to near instantaneous gaming. I get some of his points but as long as the boxes plug in and play with limited baggage I can't see them just disappearing. Especially considering places like the US are so huge and our electric grid is ducktape and paperclips. Hell we had 300,000 households on dial up just 4 years ago lol. Ain't no Giga nothing in many parts of this country. And plenty of providers throttle the piss out of your connection. Need boxes, need physical/digitaldownload..at least in the states
I read the whole interview and didn’t think that was what he was saying. Instead he seemed to be suggesting that exclusives will disappear in the next generation or two. That’s about 3 - 15+ years so quite a wide remit!!!
I like Shaun Lauren a lot, and he talks SOME sense. But he also talks plenty of nonsense like saying you can’t spot ray tracing unless your curtains are closed. I wouldn’t read too much into this
Yeah, but the hardware comes with a platform where you get royalties. So, there is a point in having the console under your TV rather than a complex PC that won't capture that audience, or a digital only shop.
There might indeed be little point in console generations going forward. But, you as a company still want your box under that TV. This is like streaming services. The costumer will likely only have 1 or 2 platforms. You want yours to be one of them.
I am happy to see console generations go and focus more on content. Actually, it would be preferable.
@RoomWithaMoose I don't.
TV's are already stupid expensive, if you add a console hardware to it, it will be difficult to find a market for what would be a deluxe item.
Streaming will never work for gaming. It's a pipe dream. Your signal needs to travel to the server and back alongside the constantly refreshing video. There can be no buffering. It's impossible to have a service without lag and that is in the zones with the best coverage and closest to the servers. Why would gamers go from smooth and responsive to laggy and predictably tearing image? I don't think so. That would never hit a critical mass audience. Did we learn nothing from Stadia?
Phones? Maybe. They already have hardware and eventually will catch up to consoles and PC. I could see them connecting to the TV to play a game. You still need a controller though. But, just like a PC a phone is subject to malware and the like that will slow it down with time. Actually manufacturer updates seem to do that already to force people to upgrade. Windows does the same on PC actually. These products are based on unit sales, so they have no incentive to stop.
Consoles, if they broke off generations would be the preferred devices for gaming. They could hit cheaper prices to hit critical mass and offer a constant performance for gaming.
I don't see them being replaced that easily. Convenience is something hard to beat and the business is based on software sales. Phones don't have an incentive to stop doing generations, so i don't see them replacing it. They are the only ones i think could.
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