
As you may have already heard, rumour has that Sony is working on two new pieces of hardware: the inevitable PS6 and a new portable platform capable of natively playing your PS5 library.
While the latter certainly sounds pie in the sky at first blush, it’s actually a story with credibility. Various well-connected individuals, including Insider Gaming’s Tom Henderson and even Digital Foundry, have all mentioned they’ve heard similar things.
The nature of the device remains a little unclear, however.
But writing on forum NeoGAF, hardware snoopster KeplerL2 – who was among the first to mention the development of the handheld – said that the device is powerful enough to run PS5 games, just “not at the same resolution [or] framerate, mainly due to the lower memory bandwidth”.
Sony’s obviously had a lot of success with the PS Portal, which has seemingly emboldened its decision to make a new handheld.
We’re just curious how it’s going to position this: the idea of a portable compatible with the entirety of the PS5’s library is certainly a compelling one, but it also sounds extremely expensive. And where will it fit in alongside the PS6?
It feels like with all these leaks and rumours, we’re only seeing a small part of the picture. But there’s no smoke without fire, and it’s clear Sony really does have a new portable project cooking.
[source neogaf.com, via resetera.com]
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There actually is some credibility to this story as long as there is no mention about Giant Bomb's Jeff Grubb
Not sure about the Steam Deck/Vita mock up lol
In regards to a new portable.
I've hoped Sony would do a Deck like handheld that plays your existing library. PS6 will have the majority of it's first two years of game being cross gen anyway so it's a win in that regard.
I also expect it to be digital only, can't see Sony wanting to do carts.
@AdamNovice
Looks like AI did it.
Don't go playing with my heart now, Sony.
I'd buy a PS handheld in an instant the deck is how I play most of my steam games these days and obviously the switch.
As long as it didn't need a permanent online connection I would trip over myself to buy one.
@Czar_Khastik for real, Grubb is terrible, I can’t believe people take his reporting seriously
this will be great if true. would love to have a portable device running games directly instead of streaming. of course lower resolution is okay due to a smaller screen. the only thing I am afraid is, since the reveal of the Switch 2 price, that this possible new PS portable could be way too expensive. Lets see if true and then we might talk.
Well, you do not need 4K on a small screen. the smaller the screen the less ppi you will need to have a crisp picture. This lowers the tech requirements so...why not. 9 inch with 1080p is 200+ ppi....more than enough.
What would the call it as they didn't go with PSP2 for the Vita? I am going with the PS Mirabilis if they want to stick with Latin.
@Czar_Khastik now other people have claimed it he will be along in a day or two to say he’s heard about it
A Playstation portable with native gaming, streaming, a great exclusive launch line up, continued exclusive game support, easy ports of full PS5/PS6 games to this, cross buy games across their ecosystem system, power between a series S and PS5 (upscaled to 1080p60 with ray tracing), decent battery, good screen and a full sized controller for comfort for around $599 would be a definite day 1 purchase for me. But they need to get the software right! The games are whats most important.
This is all just pie in the sky, dont know if any of this is possible, but that would be my wish list
I am happy with ps portal. All I want now is the ability to stream all digital games I own, including ps3, ps4 and ps5 including any dlc I have purchased. Internet getting better all the time and much cheaper option. I don't want to play lower framerates sub 1080. Also Sony is really ***** in the last 20 years at supporting more than one device at a time.
@LogicStrikesAgain there is no way it's getting any exclusive games. Sony can barely support their main home consoles. They're not trying that ever again. Best we can hope for is something similar to Steamdeck.
@TheFakulty Ideally it'd both stream digital games and play ps1, ps2, ps4 and ps5 games natively.
@naruball I agree, i don’t see it happening now either, however it is of course possible if they wanted to.
They could go all out and acquire or build new studios or work together with 3rd party developers to focus on exclusive support for this device.
It doesn’t have to be all triple A game support, a solid indie lineup would also be good.
Anyway, this is just my dream scenario, please don’t wake me up 😴😝
@LogicStrikesAgain haha, fair enough!
@AdamNovice this might be a good way to try and transition people to buy digital. I try and go physical whenever possible but i would contemplate more digital if this bad boy was in the mix.
YES PUH-LEASE! I would love new Sony handheld so bad, and while sure I'd love some exclusive games for the device that just isn't realistic anymore. So being able to play my backlog sounds great!
I would love to own a handheld that could have some storage.
I might even sell my portal which is how I play my games most of the time now a days.
@naruball the issue is that it would need to compromise to run the games and I don't want a series s situation where they starting building to lowest common denominator. If they are going to build a new one then I would say ps4 pro level but then you wouldn't get the latest games unless it streamed. But look at how quickly they would then deactivate the Portal as a device, because they can't have competition within. There is no reason a ps vita or pstv couldn't stream ps5 games but hey they cut that off.
that would be cool to give the switch an actual competitor since people keep lumping it with the ps5 as legitimate competition
@TheFakulty but isn't the purpose of these devices to increase engagement/ playtime as opposed to selling hardware? I don't think it'd compete with Portal. I totally see your point about xb series s, though.
Play native game and im day one. I dont care much about graphics as long the frame rate is much acceptable
I think this is a cool idea for those who've adopted all digital (since it obviously won't include a UHD Bluray drive), but for those of us who still collect physical games, this is a far cry from the glorious Sega Nomad. Good on Sony for trying to innovate, though. I just don't see it doing especially well.
@ElkinFencer10 by the time it comes out it's likely that even fewer people will buy physical games.
Maybe they will actually do one right without all the previous missteps (expensive custom memory, crappy joysticks, poor remote play which seems to have been fixed on the Portal). And if it plays your existing PS5 library there isn't any issue with the lack of content the Vita had. Just please give us OLED.
That sounds great. PS Portal was a great proof that PS Portable will still find its audience.
I don’t travel much so unless it has some cool exclusives I’m not interested
I hope it takes the form factor from the PSP/Vita. I know larger sized handhelds are "in" right now, but Vita is the perfect size in my opinion. I would really love to see SOMEONE, especially Sony, use it again.
Supposedly 15 watts of power man that's insane 😳
I hope it doesn't mean they'll stop supporting the Portal. I'd like them to add the ability to cloud stream games you own and potentially even play PS6 games on it. After 30 years of buying consoles I think I'm done buying more.
No interest in a native portable. My portal works great and is extremely light. When they start cramming things the handhelds get too bulky like the steam deck.
Fans: We want a portable PS5, a true PS Vita successor
Sony: We announce a handheld that can natively play PS4 and PS5 games at lower graphics settings
Fans: What? Why would you make a console that holds back the generation like the Series S? Where are the PS5 exclusive games??? Those graphics suck.
@xeofate yes, I have absolutely no interest in playing a low-res, low detail, compromised, short battery, extremely hot, storage limited and very expensive handheld, when I can currently play the full fat home console version of games with zero compromises on a Portal.*
I never play outside of a WiFi network.
If I'm not within a WiFi network, I sure as hell didn't go to that location just to waste my time gaming....
*the exception being the Switch 1/2, but that's for the purpose of playing Nintendo Exclusives, and I play mostly on the TV with a Pro controller.
I'd love to see such a device but I'd be amazed if memory bandwidth was the only limiting factor for it running PS5 games. In any case, games will have to be patched to work on such a thing, so its not likely to be compatible with the full library, though it should play all PS4 games at least
@Cornpop76 I don't mind them building this device for people that are interested in it, I'm just hoping they continue to support the Portal alongside it and add new features to it. They've got something good going with the Portal so would be a shame to see that go to waste.
@joeyflannel I’m currently using Vita a lot for shorter platinum run games and while I absolutely adore it I do wish the screen was a bit bigger. Heartbeat purchase for me this would be. Wonder if they would do a portal and add the half dualsense either end. It’s easily the most comfortable handheld gaming device in history. Vita can make my knackered carpal hands really hurt after an hour or so
@AdamNovice first 2 years? How deep are we in the PS5 and we're still getting PS4 versions?
Till Sony says anything I'll wait. This rumour has been around for years. I don't care I'm fine with what we have at the moment of options. If Sony can split teams sure but if not why would they bother.
Portal could have had dual screen/Android support yet doesn't. It's just stripped down Vita version of the app that PC, PS4, phones got. Dualsense or not don't care.
Their systems and teams need enough to work with them. Nixxes can try handheld ports but I think PC is enough for them to work on.
If audiences care and teams can work it out sure but they couldn't or wouldn't risk it.
I don't care for their current games so I wouldn't buy a handheld from Sony this time even besides price.
Third parties would have to be there and good variety of them the big ones aren't getting me to, only the odd AA or Indies on Switch 1 besides niche Nintendo IPs, but Vita/PSP had fair 1st party regardless of how they turned out I still enjoyed them.
PSVR2 is third party only on occasion of releases.
@aj21009 But it's third parties, there is even if not a lot and many studios but been shut down or split off studios and such. 1st party on PS5/Series are on those platforms. Or in other cases other consoles/PC. If they design the games that way that's on them what their goal was, and what the customer seeks and purchases or not.
I think it's up to the point of the loose ones. The PS2 2008 to 2013 period or PS3 late period. I'd say late Japanese releases or third world country sales for the many western games. Which is pretty normal even if a bit further.
Persona 5 was PS3/4 in 2017, crowd funded games varied of coming out or dropping support for PS3/360/Wii U, Sports games always happens to a point, many niche JRPGs were PS2 late releases, many kids licensed games were.
Wii as well. Handhelds got their support to a point. PSP was 2004 to 2014, DS was I think till 2014 or so as well. 3DS till 2021 of eshop and carts. Wii U as well with Wii disks yet eshop was earlier.
Third parties want that money of any regions of countries to buy their game.
If PS3 online is still active for some games yet not others that also proves something. Hardware limits or audience access.
If third world countries still need time to buy them/play them.
Or casuals anywhere in the world are still on old systems. Even if compared to kids licensed games on PS2/Wii it is different now of what people play on their consoles, phones and more of game types and money going where it is.
That furthers the point then just 'I want full development of PS5/Series X because I am on these devices'. It's still about money, about reach, about what the games ACTUALLY offer.
Many third parties are fairly releasing past 2 years mark or so of PS3/360 era to PS4/Xbox One, more then they did in the past but it still varies and Indies always do even up until eshops close or disks finish printing.
Companies won't let go of sales, and many games aren't gameplay wise or graphically pushing systems when they can remove half the 4K, HDR and more for PS4/Xbox One. The digital services of PS4/Xbox One still run yet not on PS3/360/Wii U due to RAM/other limits to run on them or lacking audience need to support.
That's on THE companies for how their games are designed/priorities. They are a business, sales/reach matters.
If sales sure, if the game design is so typical of PS4 design of structure on PS5 then who cares. It's obvious.
It's the same but bigger wow what an improvement, wow more grass/trees and other garbage.
Finally achieving what has been wanted to of skyboxes and weather or other things. It's cool and all but hardly exciting if done before but now slightly better, sure.... Whatever.
Sometimes they have been done and moved on, sometimes the same or different approach but same general idea but better graphics now or routine of them appearing on screen/in the world.
I refuse to upgrade because they haven't done anything gameplay wise beneficial and just made the same games. So to me it's up to companies to do that. I'm not their core audience anyway so I buy old gen second hand market or whatever is PS4/Switch on discount or physical pre-owned and they still maybe get no money.
PS4 era to me was PS3 games but with odd refinements or gameplay cut backs for visuals/story. So to me PS4 era sucked and to me PS5 era sucks. But that's just me and how I see games design these days and go nah pass.
"And where will it fit in alongside the PS6?"
I'm guessing for PS6 it will act as the following up to the Portal, stream all your PS6 games anywhere. Everything from PS1-PS5 will run natively, if that's the case take all my money Sony!!
If Nintendo can make portable hardware that matches the PS4's performance, Sony can make a portable to match that of the PS5. Whether they decide to sell it is a whole other story, fingers crossed.
Upscaling for a handheld is a good thing I just don't like it when it's forced on a desktop PC when hardware is capable but game optimization is rubbish
@Czar_Khastik I'd take a rumour from your grandma over Grubb at this point. At least I wouldnt have to sit through a 2 hour podcast to get it
If it doesn't need a constant internet connection I buy it. Playing PS4/PS5 games on the go would be awesome. The only thing that would worry me right now is the price.
I live in the U.S. in a city where crime isn't taken seriously anymore, so there is no way I would ever take a portable gaming device with me out of the house...which negates the need for a portable gaming device unfortunately.
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2 hours on a good day. And even then it's usually 1h 45m of people shouting over each other and 15 mins of actual news.
Sony just need to forget about portable games systems, full stop. The Portal is cool, but a system limited to PS5 only games? Utterly pointless as that reads as it won’t get an games for it specifically, it’ll just run what ever games come out on PS5, and no doubt to keep it fed Sony will ensure that PS6 games are released on PS5 too for several years..
They will try to release a handheld on the cheap by crippling the next gen console, and I bet neither the PS6 nor this portable will be cheap. I think PS6 will easily be 550 looking at the price increases and PS5 Pro pricing.
I’d MUCH rather stick to Switch 2 thanks and a PC handheld or tablet.
@S1ayeR74 "but a system limited to PS5 only games?"
Who said is limited to only PS5? It goes without saying that when they say PS5 that includes everything below that. You wouldn't be interested in a Sony portable that could natively play PS5, PS4, PS3, PS2, PS1, PSP, PS Vita? While also being able to stream PS6 games (maybe some will be ported natively too)?
@tangyzesty I live in Europe and I don't remember the last time I saw anyone holding a switch or steamdeck in public. I think most people use portable devices at home nowadays.
@Cornpop76 Trains, flights, city public transport, hotel rooms during business trips, and vacation homes, these are just a few places where people might want to enjoy a game to pass the time when a reliable Wi-Fi connection isn't available.
7 years of waiting ahead ...
@Juanalf No, I would NOT be interested in a system that is only capable of playing old games, that is the same as the Portal then, restricted, in fact the Portal is better a the streams new games. It will just be a more expensive PS accessory as opposed to it being its own system. The PSP was the only time Sony got it right, the Vita wasn’t because they turned it into an accessory again.
@sop that's straight out of the Switch commercials. The old trendy kids at the skate park meme.
Theoretical places that barely anyone ever plays.
Hotel has WiFi and portal can be used with 5G BTW.
But again, 99% if usage is within network range, so why have a permanently gimped machine for the 1% edge case?
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