In a genre that prides itself on balanced gameplay and character building, you can always count on the Disgaea franchise to be the outlier in the strategy role-playing realm with its ability to not take itself too seriously. If you've played previous instalments, you'll know that a wacky cast and unconventional stories of the netherworld both accompany rich turn-based gameplay. Disgaea 5: Alliance of Vengeance is the franchise's first foray on the PlayStation 4, with promises of it being the largest adventure yet. Well, dood, does bigger equate to better?
Back to the netherworld we go in order to find out. Like previous instalments, Alliance of Vengeance starts us off in the depths of the demon world. It's here where we meet our main protagonist Sir Killia, a demon with a murky past. His sole mission is to reap his vengeance on an overlord named Void Dark – clever name, right? – and in true video game fashion, our antagonist poses a danger to the very existence of our unorthodox hero.
On the path to building a rebellion army to suppress this evil in the land of evil, we meet a few colourful characters that form an impressively efficient rag-tag team of outcasts. As usual, this cast is fantastic; each one has an interesting motivation, and you'll be in love with every one of them by the end of your first playthrough.
Fans of the series will instantly recognise a tonal change in the story. Opposed to previous titles, the plot in this one deals with the more serious themes about handling vengeance. Unfortunately, though, things get too corny at points, detracting from what could have been an emotionally powerful tale. That's not to disparage the character writing, however, which is an aspect that's still at its brilliant, clever best.
But, if you're into it, you'll be happy to know that there's a whole lot of campaign here. Unfortunately, it feels like the developer was trying so hard to make the game bigger, it stretched out some of the narrative for the sake of padding the length. The stages designed for the adventure are fun, varied, and provide different scenarios for you, but about three quarters of the way in, you'll be wondering if you'll ever reach the climax. What's more, there's also a strange difficulty spike towards the end that can be frustrating if you haven't built the right type of team, which threatens to pad the runtime even further.
Now to the real juicy stuff, dood. All of the excellent strategy and character options make a glorious return, and they're better than ever before. A load of new classes have been added, including – wait for it – zombie maid and dark knight. Best of all, they scale to your level – you just need to have enough currency to cover the bill.
A great deal of the strategy begins before the battle; trying to build a team that can handle any situation is a whole lot of nerdy fun. Covering up that Death Star-thermal-exhaust-pipe-sized weakness on your team is key to surviving the more difficult stages, while focusing on elemental damage, the special gauge, health bars, and items will also go a long way in making sure that you succeed.
You can find success in a myriad of ways, so Disgaea is often about how creative you can be. For some time, we were owning the field using four knights, five mages, and one healer – but it's all about finding your own balance, and creating powerful teams is extremely exciting with so many options available.
Level designs start off easy enough, where the only difficulty you'll have is efficiently moving your troops. Further down the line, you'll be asked to avoid stage damage, movement impediments, and powerful enemies. In other words, it's more of what fans have come to expect. Speaking of stages, a past complaint has been their boring aesthetic. Although it's mostly still a whole lot of flat maps with very few dynamic aspects built in, there seems to have been a more conscious effort in decorating them here, which is appreciated.
What's more impressive, though, are the animations that come with your attacks. Saying that they're over the top is doing them no justice; massive special attacks will fill your screen with colours, explosions, and a whole lot of madness. They're fantastic in every way possible.
Along with the eye-pleasing attacks and freshly painted stages, a new revenge system has been added to the mix. Now, when your allies are being attacked, each character's revenge meter will fill until you hit the cap. At that point, that character's statistics are increased exponentially, and some can unleash a powerful special called an overload. Going into this mode can swing the battle even in the direst of situations – and at times, you'll need it when you're surrounded by loads of foes.
In battle you're able to capture enemies for later interrogation, as well as appoint characters to teams that will yield special boosts like an increase in attack and accuracy. Seriously, there's a whole lot to experiment with and do here – you can even decorate your hub world to your liking.
Meanwhile, the Item World, which has also appeared in the previous instalments, allows you to level up your gear by entering an endless amount of battles. The difficulty of these stages increases the further that you progress, and this makes your equipment much more powerful as a result. The chances of finding rare loot also increases the deeper that you go down the rabbit hole, and it's this potential reward loop that'll keep you hooked. It's the ol' carrot at the end of the stick trick, and Disgaea does it fantastically.
Conclusion
Disgaea 5: Alliance of Vengeance is arguably the most complete package in the series. Despite an unnecessarily long campaign that's home to some surprising difficulty spikes, it's still an excellent strategy venture that will give you plenty of bang for your buck.
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I'll look forward to getting it next month. My game to buy for now is 2k.
One of the reasons I'm going to get an PS4 this year.
@Expa0 you like it that much ha? Can you tell me the reasons please? Just interested
I bloody love Disgaea I have yet to finish 4 though! Will definitely get 5 later down the line.
Hmmm not really on my radar till I read this, but I gotta say I'm interested now. Will look into it a bit more. Thanks!
Is this fully voice acted? If so is it any good? And how'd you find the soundtrack throughout - some memorable tunes?? And do the gameplay sections play out entirely on a combat grid? I expected so but it just looks like there is some free movement in a video I saw just now, too.
Looks at Wallet
Why is this released now? Why? Goodbye ttk. I love disgaea 2, finished it earlier today for the third time and building my weapon levels and dark court to unlock the last characters. Love it!
@kyleforrester87 Voice acting is top class, you need to buy into this game - you would enjoy it. Love it like me? Probably not. Takes a certain level of buy in, and you need to play for 15-20 hours before the options flesh out substantially so you can see the endgame activity. Which is leveling to 9999.
Again I haven't played 5 - but whenever its out I'm buying it.
@themcnoisy Sounds like it's up my street but cant be sure till I try it. Bravely Default for example, I love just getting all the jobs/levelling the characters and trying different builds. Think I read it's out October (6th??). Not sure if that applies to EU.
I recommend these games to anyone who's tired of video games taking themselves too seriously. Nothing is serious in these games. It's just hilarious and goofy all the way through.
@kyleforrester87 its like ff tactics but a million times better. The setting is boss! I will try and get the anime startup for the 2nd game (I may not be able to find it so bear with me its really obscure)
@themcnoisy It's cool had another look into it, I reckon it's worth a punt come launch (9th October according to Amazon) - hope it's good. Building myself up quite the back log at the moment! I hear there is a little game called Fallout 4 coming out soon too, yikes
There's a demo for Disgaea 5 (US Store) available if anyone's interested just to try it out.
@themcnoisy Lol, I'm in the same predicament as well. There are five games in October that I'm interested in, some are guarantee buys whereas others I'm still on the fence about.
@kyleforrester87 I don't own a 3DS but there's a new game called The Legend of Legacy thats coming out in October as well. I haven't seen the gameplay but visually the artstyle does look a bit similar to Bravely Default.
I'm so interested in this series, but padding and grinding are huge turn offs for me.
@WanderingBullet
If you get a 3DS I recommend (as in OMG you gotta get):
Pokemon X/Y
Fire Emblem: Awakening
Animal Crossing: New Leaf
Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
Hundreds of hours of blissfull gaming right there 😃
@themcnoisy thinking I will probably give Disgaea a second chance soon too. Tried the PSP version of the first one when I was younger, but struggled to get into it, unlike FF Tactics which had me from the get go.
Which would you recommend out of 3 or 4 for the Vita?
@SteveButler2210 unsure pal, I never had a ps3 and my psp broke pretty much as soon as I bought it (left trigger and triangle button stuck) so I have missed them but the original and both versions of 2 are good. I missed Disgaea and was gutted it was ps exclusive last gen. You do need to buy into the levelling and grinding, repurchased disgaea 2 for £3 or something stupid in a sale for the Vita and have ran up over 60hours already.
@SteveButler2210 unsure pal, I never had a ps3 and my psp broke pretty much as soon as I bought it (left trigger and triangle button stuck) so I have missed them but the original and both versions of 2 are good. I missed Disgaea and was gutted it was ps exclusive last gen. You do need to buy into the levelling and grinding, repurchased disgaea 2 for £3 or something stupid in a sale for the Vita and have ran up over 60hours already.
@Illusionistt
I like Disgaea because it's an japanese RPG, and those are what sell systems for me.
PS4 is also getting Star Ocean 5 next year and then there's Final fantasy 15, That chrono trigger lookalike game and Kingdom Hearts 3 in the pipeline as well, not to mention plethora of fighting games, which are other genre I really enjoy. All those together are enough to make the PS4 worth getting in my books.
@WanderingBullet Ahh the last thing I need is more games to buy! Will take a look, though!
@Fandabidozi Thanks, I'm familiar with some of those games.
@WanderingBullet Good shout with that game, just seen a few gameplay videos. I'll check out a few reviews after launch but looks to be a goer!
Huh a lot of the staff thought to be the most talented left NIS before this game was made, I wondered if it would suffer for it.
Is the level cap still 9999?
Really on the verge for this. Love Disgaea and played all the other chapters... but I kinda don't know if I need more of it, you know? The demo is lovely and all but I don't see any huge departure from the games I 've sink 1000 hours into.
@kyleforrester87 Cool. I just seen the trailer myself and does it look like it could be a good game. I also quite like the objects popping out of the ground effects as your characters move about.
Loving the demo on eu ps store...played the hell out of disgea 3 on ps3 but havent played any others...very tempted to buy this one
the Demo is also available on the EU (Austria) Store
As far as I can tell by playin the demo its an overwhelming complex SRPG - graphics not really that "impressive" , allthough everything looks sharp and vibrant, cant judge if the battle system has that much improved over the predecessors since Ive never really played a Disgaea game before - Its just a bad release date imo, the october belongs to Tales ^^
Still get this asap
@Feena The recent demo was my first time playing a Disgaea game and I thought it was pretty fun. Is it true that Disgaea can be too confusing and over complex? Can you actually only do all the cool stuff like dealing damage in millions/billions/trillion after grinding for hundreds or thousands of hours?
@WanderingBullet It has a deep system but I wouldn't say it's confusing. And they've been simplifying things from the previous entry, Disgaea D2. If you want to reach the crazy levels and bosses there's going to be some grinding involved, no question - but keep in mind the the game expects you to do it and so it allows you to twerk the game system in quite a lot of ways to your advantage...it's not dull but certainly time consuming.
@Feena Thanks. That's what I'm afraid of since I usually like to collect or upgrade everything the game has to offer.
@WanderingBullet Did you buy Disgaea 5 man? I just reread your comments above and would like to say that for 10 hours you will try to collect everything, go everywhere etc etc. But then you will just focus on a few things and whatever you pickup will be a bonus.
There's quests but they are not really quests simply points to tick off throughout the journey. I spent a good 2 hours making sure some quests were done and a few hours later realised they would of been completed anyway if you catch my drift, so I wasted a bit if time. I have OCD with stats and data so my issues could be similar to yours. Items drop literally all of the time in the item world - so the tendency to collect will soon be overcome by the tendency to organise your inventory of millions of things.
ok so now I finally got the game since it was on sale
and thankfully my save file from the demo could be used too ^^
so - after idk 12 hrs into the game i can just say "phew" - i dont know if I will ever have time to finish this, seriously. I didnt expect that game to be so grindy, seriously. It is overwhelming in every way imaginable, theres so much to do, to consider, be aware of ... although it has very good tutorials and explanations, I think I didnt even scratch the surface on what that game has to offer. I love the graphics, the absurd humor, and the gameplay is rewarding, addctive, fun - I just hope that those difficult spikes wont turn me off .... nothing against a challenge but, excessive Level grinding is always needed to proceed (which means repeat previous chapters idk endless times) - as much fun as this game is (and it is great), it feels like "work" sometimes. And im just level 10 here, I dont even wanna think about getting everyone up to level 9999 (!!!). But honestly I can see why the game/the series is so famous - it just rewards you all the time and you always have the feeling "just one more level" - highly addicting.j
Id say for now its an 8/10 for me, maybe Im gonna change my mind if I (ever am able to) complete it.
RPG Doods .. um sorry .. RPG Fans that are interested and are aware of huge difficulty spikes and therefore excessive (!!!) grinding wont go wrong with this one
The only thing that could make this game better was if it was on a handheld...
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