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@Loamy Congrats mate, get some rest 😄

@CrashBandicoat Roughly 10 minutes.

@Titntin Cheers.

I just got an email from Sony confirming so I guess Paypal won't acknowledge until dispatch.

@Titntin For whatever reason that site has never saved my delivery address, I have to manually add it every time.

I grabbed a pro using paypal as well and haven't received any confirmation either so I think we're all in the same boat.

Edit - Never mind, just got a confirmation email from Sony.

@Titntin Congrats mate 👍

Mine is 42 minutes. Oh well, roll on the 10th 😄

Why am I sweating 😂

@BloodyBlact Congrats 👍

@ZeD Germany was €1099, so it should be £999.99 for us.

@Pranwell @JustX I just saw on reddit that it's listing price was €1100 in Germany, so likely £1000 for us. I guess we'll see what happens at 10.

Best of luck to everyone trying 🤞

@Titntin Okay, I see that as well. I have a feeling I was too late.

@JustX Yeah same. I'm trying to find out if there's a difference to what people are seeing. Mine says - You have been temporarily placed in a waiting room.

@Titntin Are you in a queue or a waiting room, does your screen have a timer or does it say the queue is paused?

@KundaliniRising333 Give it a rest, ffs.

I've got an early start tomorrow so I can't stay up for this, but I plan on kicking off my Wednesday morning reading the tears of miserable c***s.

I really enjoyed my playthrough of this, I thought it was excellent. I'll grab this when it drops.

@NEStalgia

Sea of Thieves is a shared world online server. Like FFXIV, and other MMOs. You have to have an account on the server to log in to be in the game.

I understand, but you can disable crossplay in SoT and only play with people from the PlayStation network, so why is a MS account required. I don't actually mind this though, I was simply replying to someone who said imagine if Microsoft did this to one of their ported games and how PS fans would react. Well, they did, and there was absolutely no reaction.

I'm against what's happening here because I think you're a clown if you buy a game that specifically outlines its requirements beforehand, for the sole purpose of leaving a negative review and then refunding. These same people who care about data privacy probably rush to Twitter straight after to tell everyone what they did.

@jrt87 What about those who don't want to crossplay, they still had to create an account. Point is, I don't remember any tantrums from "affronted PlayStation fanboys".

@jrt87 Like Sea Of Thieves?

@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare I don't disagree, but none of that means these figures aren't important.

@Medic_alert Seeing five 9's would be a nice surprise but I don't expect to even get one to be honest, the site will be a nightmare and there will probably be one or two thousand max available for the UK market.

@Oz_Who_Dat_Dare As I mentioned in a previous post, internal documents were leaked outlining their projections to grow gamepass up until 2030, and console was their main contributor and focus in that strategy. They are millions behind where they wanted to be at this point.

You might not think these numbers are that important, but when they are directly affecting their biggest projected market for growth, I guarantee you they don't share the same opinion.

@Medic_alert I think the total of its parts is £1023.96, this is going off the store right now, not including a plastic drive cover as it can't be purchased separately.

£1400+ would be a £350 mark up for being limited. I can't see it being that high personally but I wouldn't put it past them.

@Sakai There's definitely an element of bait to it, which is unfortunately prevalent in so much journalism these days, particularly gaming.

@Sakai @Oz_Who_Dat_Dare @Godot25 I believe the 3:1 is a reflection of sales in the last 14 months and obviously not from the total figures you are seeing above. Bear in mind those sales numbers are estimates from a market analyst firm and a reporter from Tweaktown, so I would take the precise accuracy of what's being estimated with a pinch of salt.

@BrettAwesome 30 years ago cartridge was standard, unless you're talking about the Amiga CD32, which flopped. I still have one sitting in the attic.

There will be people who say these numbers do not matter, that Microsoft don't care about hardware anymore, they're more focused on access anywhere, ect. The truth is, their own internal projections from leaked documents highlighted console as the main focus and driver of gamepass subscriptions and growth for the next 6 years, and they're currently way behind those figures. They absolutely care about hardware and results like this.

@RoomWithaMoose The majority of that scrutiny came from concerns regarding monopolising the cloud gaming space, as this is an area they have a significant market share in, not so much what their plans were for hardware.

Are you frustrated by the number of PS5 remasters getting announced?

Nope. If it's a title that interests me, I'm invested. If it doesn't, it's forgotten about shortly after it's announcement.

I guess £700 just became a minimum of a grand next week 😄

@caiol92 I guess when the displays a lot of us play on started to improve and highlight the stark contrast. I had no issue playing 30fps up until a few years ago, but since switching to a large LG oled, that framerate honestly looks and performs horribly in games for me.

Are these the differences I was told I wouldn't be able to see?

The more interesting thing for me was DD2 supposedly running at 60fps. It will be interesting to see if that's stable/locked, I'm expecting drops of some kind.

Returnal would be my number one as well but that's a really solid list.

I always enjoy these state of plays, I go in to them expecting nothing and if I come away excited about 1 or 2 upcoming games it was worth a watch.

Admittedly, this would be the ideal opportunity to showcase what's coming two days before preorders open for the pro. Do I think Sony will take advantage of that, knowing them probably not 😄 The timing is suspect though.

Cheers @themightyant, that was interesting. I'm really curious about what studio and game he's referencing, but it looks like taking advantage of the pro is going to be incredibly easy for devs. Good to hear they're quickly rolling out updates for PSSR as well, sounds like teething issues in its implementation but should mean we get constant improvements as it evolves.

@SlipperyFish I hope that will always be the case with first party, I don't want to imagine the conversation if it isn't seeing as they've provided the option in every game so far this gen.

@SlipperyFish You're absolutely right. My wording is admittedly poor in what I was trying to convey.

I was talking about the potential to optimise cpu/gpu demand and help overall performance by having a superior upscaling solution at a lower resolution. It should be easier, in theory, to ensure 60fps at 2k and allow for PSSR to upscale and produce a better image then what we're currently seeing in fidelity modes.

@HonestHick Alan Wake 2 is out in October for those who had the patience to wait, I was not one of them. I would say roughly 90% of my purchases this gen have been digital. I'm tinkering with the idea of abandoning physical but I haven't made my mind up yet, I do want the option of physical to always be there though.

@HonestHick I definitely am. I wasn't that shocked at the price, I was shocked at the lack of a drive for said price.

@themightyant I thought so too. Obvious sticking points are the cost and lack of drive, there's no getting away from it, but he was very positive about its possibilities outside of that. Time will tell.

@themightyant Did you watch Michael's video on the Pro?

SSR on console has the potential to be a real game changer, it will obviously come down to how the devs get the best out of it though. I expect first party to lead the way on what's possible.

@NEStalgia And an operating system, keyboard and mouse, and likely a controller as well unless you have one sitting around. What cooling solution are you using in a 40 series rig for only $50?

Either way, you're comparing a $995/1195 setup (more with the things I mentioned) to a $699 system without any of the added headaches that come with PC.

@GamingFan4Lyf You're right. For some reason I thought the 2tb was digital as well. I'll just grab my coat and edit my comment on the way out 🙈

I have to laugh at the responses here. People purposely ignoring the fact Sony don't want to sell yet another sku at a loss, an OPTIONAL one at that, and also choosing to completely ignore what all of the experts are saying about the cost of components and manufacturing right now, and not just in gaming but in every industry. Instead, this is what happens when Sony have no competition.

Edited - For idiot reasons.

@OldGamer999 No, it will almost certainly be 30fps. That type of game is incredibly cpu intensive with everything going on in the cities they create. The only advantages the pro will offer on GTA are improved resolution and rendering.

I don't see it doing as well as the PS4 Pro at this price point. The lack of a bundled drive was a big misstep, and something I expect will harm its sales.

@ButterySmooth30FPS A lot of those who are angry obviously want one, but they also want Sony to take a significant loss on each one made so its more in line with what they want to pay 😂

@Mustoe If you're going to make a like for like comparison then the base price is what should be used.

Until we get some benchmarks, the assumed GPU comparison on paper right now is the equivalent of a RX 7700 XT, that card alone is £400. CPU on the base PS5 without the new clocks was comparable to a Ryzen 5 3600, that's roughly £76. So with the remaining £223 you need a case, power supply, ram, motherboard, 2tb of ssd storage, fans and cooling, an operating system, and a keyboard and mouse or controller to play anything on it.

If you have something comparable in the PC space for that price, that will be optimised specifically for gaming as a console is, I'd love to see it.

@themightyant I still will. I'll sell my PS5 to CEX for £232, £593 for the pro and add ons.