I didn’t expect the first four, that Phil was nice enough to tell us would not be Starfield or Indiana Jones, to release so soon. That suggests that the rumor of Starfield being ported after Shattered Space may have been correct.
Damn though. So many games in the first three months of the year. Budget is whatever, but my time constraints are real! Oh well. Will Day One it and add it to the backlog library while I spread democracy.
Wow..:so GamePass is LOSING subscribers! And once again, Microsoft uses deceitful language. It’s like their Modus Operandi. Obscure the truth with vagueness that can’t be classified as a lie, but doesn’t qualify as honesty either.
It’s like the Starfield and Indiana Jones deflection. To paraphrase, “We’re only releasing four games to PlayStation but they’re not Starfield or Indiana Jones.”
Okay, so the first four aren’t. What about game five? Or six? What number will the Starfield and Indiana Jones releases be since we know they won’t be a part of the initial four?
Same with GamePass. In January 2022 GamePass had 25 million subs. In the Activision trial it was disclosed that Xbox Live Gold had 11.7 million subscribers as of April 2022. Since they converted Live Gold to Game Pass Core, and Core included in these latest numbers, that puts the total LOSS at around 2.7 million subscribers!
@FuzzieGinge88 Are you talking EBITDA or net earnings? And there are multiple types of profit. Once again, net, but then there’s also gross and operating. I work mostly in ops, but have to factor them all in. Sorry, you were just really vague in your comment…you should go work for Xbox!
Although the question being begged is why tag me when I didn’t make a comment on financials? People…
@DarkTron I wouldn’t have known about Jet Moto being released if I hadn’t seen this article. Having beaten the game with every racer back in the 90s, I’d take another look at it for nostalgia!
I can’t believe Xbox had over a week to prep messaging for this event and this was the best they could do. Only four games, older/small/live service, with no Starfield or Indiana Jones…BUT…exclusivity is winding down and who can say what will release where. Phil Spencer’s doublespeak would have made George Orwell proud!
Bottom line, Xbox games are going multiplat. Not today. Not tomorrow. But soon. Hard stop.
@Rmg0731 Pentiment is the fifth highest ranked Xbox Series exclusive! The only four Series exclusives ranked higher are Forza Horizon 5, Microsoft Flight Simulator, Hi-Fi Rush, and Halo Infinite! If the fifth best game is crap like you say, that doesn’t say much about the Xbox game catalog!
As disappointing as it was having Sony tell us that they won’t have any major sequels release for over a year, while admitting that they have to do better as a business, I really appreciate the honesty. It’s refreshing.
Xbox? Wow. Yet their fan base is ever loyal! Lie to their face and they’ll lap it up like dogs!
@mrbone Is this what being a part of the Xbox ecosystem has become? Wowza!
Helldivers 2 is awesome! Wish everyone could play it, but I understand wanting to release on PC and the console with over 55 million units. At least there’s Palworld!
@BacklogBrad I’ve already posted this elsewhere, but PS5 has 161 games with an average rating of 100-80. Xbox Series only has 114. Words are cool, but facts are cooler.
@AdamNovice GamePass and Activision are two of the reasons Microsoft is forcing Xbox to go multiplat. The slow drip drip drip of Xbox games releasing on PlayStation is going to make the Xbox ingrained go mental!
Completely expected. These four are laying the groundwork. Once shareholders see the added revenue stream, all Xbox games will become multiplat. My bet is by this time next year, Xbox games will be releasing on all consoles capable of running them. February 15, 2025. The beginning of the end of Xbox as we knew it.
@Nei Xbox is always moving the goalposts. Console sales. GamePass subscribers. Active users. Hours played.
Once one becomes consistently negative, they quit releasing the data and move the goalposts to some new metric that meets their propo…business communication needs.
From a pure numbers perspective, PS5 has 161 games on Metacritic ranked 100-80. Xbox Series has 114 ranked 100-80. I think the PS5 is doing alright. 😂🤣💀
Oh…Nintendo? Switch (launched 2016) has 501 games within 100-80.
Of the Xbox exclusives released this gen, Hi Fi (87) and Pertinent (86) Metacritic rank 3 (tied with Halo Infinite at 87) and 5. Forza Horizon 5 is a 92 and Flight Simulator is 90. Next in line (outside of more Forza) is Starfield at 83.
I’d say getting two of the best exclusives available for Xbox would be a solid win.
Once Microsoft starts basking in the glow of PlayStation money, everything Xbox “exclusive” will be released on PlayStation. Completely redefines Xbox exclusivity. Is it? Isn’t it? How long is it?
Microsoft and Sony aren’t in the same game. They just happen to have consoles that are. And that $3 trillion dollar company wants a return on their $75 billion investment in Activision, which means more games for PlayStation!
Meh. This is a corporate Microsoft decision that is being whittled down to a high level (low detail) Xbox podcast to “address” the matter without really addressing anything. I wouldn’t expect anything substantial from this. The fact that they had to have an internal Xbox town hall last Tuesday is more noteworthy than this.
Anyone who has been in corporate knows what “no plans” means. It’s a very open ended statement that doesn’t bring a strong sense of security.
$75 billion is more than 3x any other Microsoft acquisition in the company’s history. They may be worth more than $3 trillion, but shareholders are going to want visible returns on the largest acquisition in Microsoft’s history. Xbox be damned.
Wow. Now there are reports that games like Fable and Avowed have removed Xbox Series mentions and have generalized to console and PC. Big changes coming!
@McBurn The “currently support” message explains the catalyst. The “which means that access to previously available digital copies will not be supported” is the result. They will not support previously available digital copies. Hard stop.
That list says A LOT. Of all the options, only Gears broke single digits at a whopping 11%. Halo is teetering with double digits at 9%. That’s with almost 6700 votes.
@KundaliniRising333 Sounds like the the launch issues have started becoming apparent after this article was published. Curious if there will be an update to address.
An interesting fact: When Xbox doesn’t like their numbers, they quit sharing them.
Long gone are the 360 days of sharing consoles sold. That ended quickly after One released and quickly got doubled throughout its lifespan by the PS4.
But GamePass, the Xbox pride and joy, was continually being updated with subscription rates…until it wasn’t. Last subscription update? January 2022. Over two years ago.
I think this quote from Robert Morrison (Bend) is spot on concerning competition:
“ There’s an understandable concern by some that a perceived lack of competition could degrade quality of releases. At the developer level, PlayStation studios don’t compete against Xbox or Nintendo studios. We are all driven by an internal desire to create the best work possible.”
I fall into the “I don’t care” category. It’s an interesting topic, and the flaming meltdowns are mildly entertaining, but there isn’t a single base Xbox game I give two sh**s about. I have enough money to invest in more than one system, but have never been slightly tempted.
Bethesda is a different matter, but that’s simply for Fallout and Elder Scrolls, and I can easily live without them.
I guess you don’t spend around $90 billion in acquisitions since 2018 and expect shareholders to wait for massive profits from the growth. Letting PlayStation and Nintendo users contribute to Microsoft’s Xbox growth will be letting the genie out of the bottle. Shareholders won’t let those revenue streams disappear if allowed.
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Re: Xbox Games Hi-Fi Rush, Sea of Thieves, Pentiment, Grounded All Confirmed for PS5, PS4
I didn’t expect the first four, that Phil was nice enough to tell us would not be Starfield or Indiana Jones, to release so soon. That suggests that the rumor of Starfield being ported after Shattered Space may have been correct.
Re: Xbox Game Hi-Fi Rush Announced for PS5, Out Next Month
Damn though. So many games in the first three months of the year. Budget is whatever, but my time constraints are real! Oh well. Will Day One it and add it to the backlog library while I spread democracy.
Re: Random: New York Times Posts Decades-Old Final Fantasy 7 Spoilers on Front Page
I think this was my first disc swap game.
Re: Helldivers 2 Beats Destiny 2's All-Time Steam Peak, Gaining on Palworld
I’m dropping a turret. You figure out where not to stand.
Re: Sony May Have Made the Right Call Not Copying Xbox Game Pass with PS Plus
Wow..:so GamePass is LOSING subscribers! And once again, Microsoft uses deceitful language. It’s like their Modus Operandi. Obscure the truth with vagueness that can’t be classified as a lie, but doesn’t qualify as honesty either.
It’s like the Starfield and Indiana Jones deflection. To paraphrase, “We’re only releasing four games to PlayStation but they’re not Starfield or Indiana Jones.”
Okay, so the first four aren’t. What about game five? Or six? What number will the Starfield and Indiana Jones releases be since we know they won’t be a part of the initial four?
Same with GamePass. In January 2022 GamePass had 25 million subs. In the Activision trial it was disclosed that Xbox Live Gold had 11.7 million subscribers as of April 2022. Since they converted Live Gold to Game Pass Core, and Core included in these latest numbers, that puts the total LOSS at around 2.7 million subscribers!
That’s crazy!
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? - Issue 516
I’m trying out this new gem called “Servers at Capacity”. It’s on a 30 second loop. When you’re really lucky you get a -1.
Re: Xbox's 'Everywhere' Future Outlined in Company Memo from Phil Spencer
@FuzzieGinge88
Are you talking EBITDA or net earnings? And there are multiple types of profit. Once again, net, but then there’s also gross and operating. I work mostly in ops, but have to factor them all in. Sorry, you were just really vague in your comment…you should go work for Xbox!
Although the question being begged is why tag me when I didn’t make a comment on financials? People…
Re: PS1 Racer Jet Moto 2 Brings High-Octane Thrills and Spills to PS5, PS4 with PS Plus Premium
@DarkTron
I wouldn’t have known about Jet Moto being released if I hadn’t seen this article. Having beaten the game with every racer back in the 90s, I’d take another look at it for nostalgia!
Re: Xbox's 'Everywhere' Future Outlined in Company Memo from Phil Spencer
PlayStation users can feel good about an expanded library and Xbox users can feel good by calling every screen an Xbox. It’s a win/win!
Re: Reaction: Xbox Is Bringing Some Great Games to PS5, But Rumours Will Remain Rampant About What's Next
I can’t believe Xbox had over a week to prep messaging for this event and this was the best they could do. Only four games, older/small/live service, with no Starfield or Indiana Jones…BUT…exclusivity is winding down and who can say what will release where. Phil Spencer’s doublespeak would have made George Orwell proud!
Bottom line, Xbox games are going multiplat. Not today. Not tomorrow. But soon. Hard stop.
Re: Microsoft Exec on Helldivers 2: I'm Not Sure Who It Helps By Not Being on Xbox
@Rmg0731
Pentiment is the fifth highest ranked Xbox Series exclusive! The only four Series exclusives ranked higher are Forza Horizon 5, Microsoft Flight Simulator, Hi-Fi Rush, and Halo Infinite! If the fifth best game is crap like you say, that doesn’t say much about the Xbox game catalog!
Re: Microsoft Exec on Helldivers 2: I'm Not Sure Who It Helps By Not Being on Xbox
@ConsoleGamer86
“Xbox has 10 timed exclusives this year.”
Fixed it for ya!
Re: Microsoft Exec on Helldivers 2: I'm Not Sure Who It Helps By Not Being on Xbox
As disappointing as it was having Sony tell us that they won’t have any major sequels release for over a year, while admitting that they have to do better as a business, I really appreciate the honesty. It’s refreshing.
Xbox? Wow. Yet their fan base is ever loyal! Lie to their face and they’ll lap it up like dogs!
Re: Rumour: Xbox Has Considered Microsoft Flight Simulator, Gears of War, and DOOM for PS5
@UltimateOtaku91
Have you seen the comment sections? Pick any gaming site. The meltdown is happening.
Re: Microsoft Exec on Helldivers 2: I'm Not Sure Who It Helps By Not Being on Xbox
@mrbone
Is this what being a part of the Xbox ecosystem has become? Wowza!
Helldivers 2 is awesome! Wish everyone could play it, but I understand wanting to release on PC and the console with over 55 million units. At least there’s Palworld!
Re: Microsoft Exec on Helldivers 2: I'm Not Sure Who It Helps By Not Being on Xbox
Microsoft is killing it today!!!!
💀💀💀💀💀😂😂💀💀💀
Re: Xbox Is Bringing Four Exclusives to PS5, But It Won't Say Which
@BacklogBrad
I’ve already posted this elsewhere, but PS5 has 161 games with an average rating of 100-80. Xbox Series only has 114. Words are cool, but facts are cooler.
Re: Xbox Is Bringing Four Exclusives to PS5, But It Won't Say Which
@Rmg0731
Games nobody wants? Two of the games are in the top 5 of Series X|S exclusives!
1. 92 - Forza Horizon 5
2. 90 - Microsoft Flight Simulator
3. 87 - Hi-Fi Rush
3. 87 - Halo Infinite
5. 86 - Pentiment
Hi Fi is tied with Halo Infinite as the third best Xbox exclusive and Pentiment is number 5!
Re: Xbox Is Bringing Four Exclusives to PS5, But It Won't Say Which
@BacklogBrad
Sure thing buddy. You conveniently left off:
“I don’t think we should as an industry ever rule out a game going to any other platform.”
There is you “but” that completely negates every quote you posted.
Re: Xbox Is Bringing Four Exclusives to PS5, But It Won't Say Which
@AdamNovice
GamePass and Activision are two of the reasons Microsoft is forcing Xbox to go multiplat. The slow drip drip drip of Xbox games releasing on PlayStation is going to make the Xbox ingrained go mental!
Re: Xbox Is Bringing Four Exclusives to PS5, But It Won't Say Which
Completely expected. These four are laying the groundwork. Once shareholders see the added revenue stream, all Xbox games will become multiplat. My bet is by this time next year, Xbox games will be releasing on all consoles capable of running them. February 15, 2025. The beginning of the end of Xbox as we knew it.
Re: Bloober Team Insists Konami to Blame for Ill-Received Silent Hill 2 Remake Trailer
If blaming Konami is an option, it seems like the safest option to take.
Re: PS5, PS4 Pull in an Incredible 123 Million Monthly Active Users
@Nei
Xbox is always moving the goalposts. Console sales. GamePass subscribers. Active users. Hours played.
Once one becomes consistently negative, they quit releasing the data and move the goalposts to some new metric that meets their propo…business communication needs.
Re: Rumour: Astro Bot Will Return for Another PS5 Rescue Mission This Year
@BusyOlf
Even if it is 2025, Sony has plenty coming to it with 3rd party exclusives and two of Xbox’s top five rated games this gen. Solid year.
Re: Sony Predicts Slide in PS5 Sales with No Major Existing IPs Planned Before March 2025
From a pure numbers perspective, PS5 has 161 games on Metacritic ranked 100-80. Xbox Series has 114 ranked 100-80. I think the PS5 is doing alright. 😂🤣💀
Oh…Nintendo? Switch (launched 2016) has 501 games within 100-80.
Re: Sony Predicts Slide in PS5 Sales with No Major Existing IPs Planned Before March 2025
@Intr1n5ic unless required by the licensing agreement (MLB The Show).
Re: Sony Predicts Slide in PS5 Sales with No Major Existing IPs Planned Before March 2025
Of the Xbox exclusives released this gen, Hi Fi (87) and Pertinent (86) Metacritic rank 3 (tied with Halo Infinite at 87) and 5. Forza Horizon 5 is a 92 and Flight Simulator is 90. Next in line (outside of more Forza) is Starfield at 83.
I’d say getting two of the best exclusives available for Xbox would be a solid win.
Re: Sony Predicts Slide in PS5 Sales with No Major Existing IPs Planned Before March 2025
@XboxistheBestBox
Cool!
I appreciate that Sony knows how to do games. Enjoy your business!
Re: Sony Predicts Slide in PS5 Sales with No Major Existing IPs Planned Before March 2025
Good thing Microsoft is helping out!
Re: PS5, PS4 Pull in an Incredible 123 Million Monthly Active Users
Doesn’t eclipse Xbox’s 200 million active users, but that number includes Xbox, PC, mobile, and PlayStation users playing Call of Duty.
Re: Pentiment Pegged for PS5 Amid Ongoing Xbox Strategy Shift Rumours
Once Microsoft starts basking in the glow of PlayStation money, everything Xbox “exclusive” will be released on PlayStation. Completely redefines Xbox exclusivity. Is it? Isn’t it? How long is it?
Re: PS5 Goes for the Kill with New Discounts in Europe
@GamingFan4Lyf
Microsoft and Sony aren’t in the same game. They just happen to have consoles that are. And that $3 trillion dollar company wants a return on their $75 billion investment in Activision, which means more games for PlayStation!
Cool story indeed, bro!
Re: Xbox's Multiplatform Plans to Be Revealed on Thursday
Meh. This is a corporate Microsoft decision that is being whittled down to a high level (low detail) Xbox podcast to “address” the matter without really addressing anything. I wouldn’t expect anything substantial from this. The fact that they had to have an internal Xbox town hall last Tuesday is more noteworthy than this.
Re: Kojima: Your Mother Won't Be Able to Tell the Difference Between PHYSINT and a Movie
Your mother jokes? How ‘90s!
Re: Xbox Has Allegedly Insisted It Won't Stop Making Consoles, As PS5 Port Rumours Mount
Anyone who has been in corporate knows what “no plans” means. It’s a very open ended statement that doesn’t bring a strong sense of security.
$75 billion is more than 3x any other Microsoft acquisition in the company’s history. They may be worth more than $3 trillion, but shareholders are going to want visible returns on the largest acquisition in Microsoft’s history. Xbox be damned.
Re: Microsoft Employee Inadvertently Adds More Fuel to the Xbox Multiplatform Fire
Wow. Now there are reports that games like Fable and Avowed have removed Xbox Series mentions and have generalized to console and PC. Big changes coming!
Re: Sony Aggrieves Anime Fans by Erasing Digital Funimation Content in Crunchyroll Merger
@McBurn
The “currently support” message explains the catalyst. The “which means that access to previously available digital copies will not be supported” is the result. They will not support previously available digital copies. Hard stop.
Re: Ubisoft CEO Defends Skull and Bones Premium $70 Pricetag, Insists It's 'AAAA' Quality
Quadruple A, eh?
Re: Poll: Which Xbox Franchises Would You Buy on PS5?
That list says A LOT. Of all the options, only Gears broke single digits at a whopping 11%. Halo is teetering with double digits at 9%. That’s with almost 6700 votes.
It’s really kind of sad.
Re: Poll: Which Xbox Franchises Would You Buy on PS5?
In other news, Sony’s Crunchyroll move with Funimation makes me feel really good about my digital library!
@get2sammyb
Re: Poll: Which Xbox Franchises Would You Buy on PS5?
I don’t consider Fallout or Elder Scrolls Xbox, but of the options those are the only two franchises I care about.
Flight Simulator with PSVR2 support would be a Day 1.
Re: Helldivers 2 Off to a Strong Start on PS5, PC, Currently Third Best-Selling Game on Steam
@KundaliniRising333
Sounds like the the launch issues have started becoming apparent after this article was published. Curious if there will be an update to address.
@Quintumply
Re: Microsoft Employee Inadvertently Adds More Fuel to the Xbox Multiplatform Fire
An interesting fact:
When Xbox doesn’t like their numbers, they quit sharing them.
Long gone are the 360 days of sharing consoles sold. That ended quickly after One released and quickly got doubled throughout its lifespan by the PS4.
But GamePass, the Xbox pride and joy, was continually being updated with subscription rates…until it wasn’t. Last subscription update? January 2022. Over two years ago.
There’s a reason Xbox is going multiplat.
Re: Microsoft Employee Inadvertently Adds More Fuel to the Xbox Multiplatform Fire
Where’s Adam Orth in all of this?
#DealWithIt
(Of course, he was absolutely correct.)
Re: Poll: How Do You Feel About All of the Xbox Multiplatform Rumours?
I think this quote from Robert Morrison (Bend) is spot on concerning competition:
“ There’s an understandable concern by some that a perceived lack of competition could degrade quality of releases. At the developer level, PlayStation studios don’t compete against Xbox or Nintendo studios. We are all driven by an internal desire to create the best work possible.”
Re: Poll: How Do You Feel About All of the Xbox Multiplatform Rumours?
I fall into the “I don’t care” category. It’s an interesting topic, and the flaming meltdowns are mildly entertaining, but there isn’t a single base Xbox game I give two sh**s about. I have enough money to invest in more than one system, but have never been slightly tempted.
Bethesda is a different matter, but that’s simply for Fallout and Elder Scrolls, and I can easily live without them.
Re: Microsoft Has Apparently Been Stocking Up on PS5 Devkits as Xbox Pivots
@colonelkilgore
Probably. Sounds like the next Xbox won’t be on Sony’s next gen release schedule.
https://www.eurogamer.net/microsofts-next-xbox-release-may-lag-behind-sony-due-to-a-delay-signing-contracts-with-amd-leaker-claims
Re: Rumour: Even Gears of War Is Reportedly in Talks to Come to PlayStation
I guess you don’t spend around $90 billion in acquisitions since 2018 and expect shareholders to wait for massive profits from the growth. Letting PlayStation and Nintendo users contribute to Microsoft’s Xbox growth will be letting the genie out of the bottle. Shareholders won’t let those revenue streams disappear if allowed.
Re: PS5, PS4 Exclusive Hogwarts Legacy Content Coming to All Platforms, More on the Horizon
I just completed that mission! It was definitely a nice twist with a great environment! I had no idea it was PS5 only.
Re: Microsoft, Activision Cut 1,900 Jobs in More Video Game Layoffs
At least Microsoft paid Bobby Kotick his $390,000,000…so they’re not all bad…. … ….