@themcnoisy I agree wholeheartedly with you man, it does seem as of late that the internet, not just this site has become very immature and hostile even. I am not sure what it is or if it can be explained. It just seems that instead of people wanting to talk and converse normally they want to argue and one up each other.
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I personally blame politics for this really, it doesn't matter whether your pro Trump/anti Trump or pro Brexit/anti Brexit everyone has such strong opinions to the point where discussion goes out of the window and ultimately leads to personal insults.
@adf86 I honestly think it's just how we have been raised as a society these last few decades. I don't know how it is in the UK but here in the US we became a society where everyone's opinion is right and we are all winners no matter if we are first or last place but because we gave it our all it's ok. Well get put all those people together who have different opinions but they all believe that they are right and everyone else is wrong and you have people unwilling to compromise because they were taught from an early age that they are always right and that they get it there way because it's ok that your different society and everything else will make it more comfortable for you rather then you adjusting to society.
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You know, I actually took my hiatus so I wouldn't end up being one of these immature and angry posters that have been popping up recently. I was in such a negative state of mind that I thought I'd just write harmful stuff if I kept going. But seeing the internet just lose rational thought is seriously sad. I'm glad it's nowhere near as bad here, but I hope things don't get worse.
Discussion and context are important. I wish everybody would remember that.
"We don't get to choose how we start in this life. Real 'greatness' is what you do with the hand you're dealt." -Victor Sullivan "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one and the same thing." -Solid Snake
Yeah the comments sections for reviews can get quite nasty, especially if a game with a strong fan base gets a lower score than expected. It goes way too far when you hear about death threats being sent for something trivial like a game being delayed. And yes that did actually happen. Sigh.
I just don't get the mentality to post on a site just to abuse someone because you don't agree with their opinion. I think social media media has a lot to 'blame' for it with the perceived anonymity that comes with it.
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@KratosMD Yep I know what you mean. I see it alot with this younger generation too, especially when I am at work. You can't even give them constructive criticism the moment you do your are a jerk and yelling at them even if you aren't and just trying to help them. This one kid at work moves so slow and the kind of work that we do you have to move quick, well I had to tell him that he needed to move faster because we are on a time schedule, if we go slow and cause the trucks not to get out in time then they are late to their destination which in turn throws people at the destination off schedule etc. etc. Well instead of picking up the pace he got mad at me and walked out, saying that's how he does things. As far as I know he doesn't have a disability, wasn't injured just seemed to not care about anyone else. Next day I am told by my boss that the kid called and said that I was a jerk to him, and that I need to learn people skills and that some people.dont move that fast but can still get the job done. I am but I need the job done then not 2 hours later. For the record my boss agreed with me and didn't think I was in the wrong.
As for when this generation becomes in charge this image sums it up for me
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Yeah, it’s gotten bad, you can’t burst people’s bubble with a different opinion. Certain people especially (I won’t name them to avoid politics) label you with a phobia if you respectfully disagree with them or don’t serve as a platform for their beliefs. (And in no group does everyone do that.)
People can still be friends with different opinions.
And the internet in particular seems to go downhill. @Tasuki Yeah, some problem think they should get paid to breathe. He couldn’t even say sorry he was having a hard time (or even better) say he’ll go faster, he just threw a fit. I work at Wal-Mart right now, and the night-shift has issues with people not doing their job and complaining it’s too hard, and did or does have a problem with people disappearing into their cars.
Such people will have a very hard time later in life if they don’t change.
@KratosMD Yep it's like walking on eggshells with these people cause it seems they hold all of the power. It's like those people @Jaz007 was talking about. The moment stuff it's hard for them the go crying about instead of improving like improving is a bad thing??? Then when you have to let them go cause they refuse to improve your the bad guy
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@KratosMD Late reply I know, but I'm doing better now. I'm still trying to sort things out, but at this rate I'll probably get posting on the regular soon. Mostly because it's hard to pull away, you guys keep pulling me in!
I also feel the same way about my generation. I'm turning 23 soon, but I feel older than most people that age. I had an old-fashioned upbringing in a blue collar family, so that's probably the major reason, but a lot of my life experience (Missing college and being broke and working menial jobs) also meant I had to grow up fast and learn the value of a hard earned dollar. I genuinely wonder how the average 23 year old would deal in my position. I don't want to say that every millennial aged person is a spoiled brat (just because life is easier than before doesn't mean it's still not hard), but I think that they forget how good they have it sometimes, getting into good schools and having steady jobs, homes, vehicles, and families others could really use. Getting my first paycheck after two weeks of dishwashing and cleaning in a bar was probably the best feeling I've had since I graduated high school. Stuff like that shouldn't be taken for granted.
"We don't get to choose how we start in this life. Real 'greatness' is what you do with the hand you're dealt." -Victor Sullivan "Building the future and keeping the past alive are one and the same thing." -Solid Snake
I think that people just want to feel like they belong to something. If you are part of a community or a groundswell of opinion then it seems to give purpose and sadly people feel they can get themselves united by hate. The problem is that this kind of negative groupings doesn't build community. Here on Push Square, this is a truly great community built largely on respect which means that difference of opinions can be had but no one is calling swat teams to peoples houses and therefore come back day after day for more.
The worst moment I have seen on Push Square was Liam's review of Metal Gear Survive where he basically said the actual gameplay was pretty good in his opinion and suddenly lots of new posters, who had seemingly followed on from meta-critic started getting vitriolic because they didn't like a video game score. Who cares that much? I find it hard to get properly angry about anything like this online. I'm a passionate advocate against things like lootboxes and gross monetization of games and I'll always write an essay about it but I honestly don't get personally upset when someone disagrees with me.
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@Rudy_Manchego Sadly that happens all to often especially with popular things. We will get a flood of new users that seem to group up and attack us and then we never see them again. I don't know if they find us via Google or Twitter or Facebook or what. I remember the review for Asseto Corsa we had so many new accounts that day flood the comment section and assult us because we didn't review the game with a steering wheel and those accounts I havent seen them post since. Sometimes I just don't get people. I guess that's how little their lives are that they have to make themselves feel good by hinding behind a screen and verbal assualt a community or whatnot. It's actually really sad if you think about it.
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@Tasuki Yep, I can't understand it at all. Why go through the effort of creating an account, to insult someone or a community on something that you have zero control over? It is not like a bunch of yammering yahoos are going to make reviewers magically change their mind.
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@antdickens Would it be possible to include an option to enlarge the YouTube videos during the live streams (i.e. the COD stream today or the upcoming E3 streams)? The videos are rather small, so watching them on YouTube gives me the option to watch it in theater mode. If it's possible to increase the size of the video, whilst keeping the chat on screen, that would be appreciated!
@antdickens On my laptop, if I expand the video, the chat drops under the video and cannot be seen. In the end, I end up having to watch on youtube because if I am going to watch something and not able to interact, then I will watch it full screen.
Its a case of either 'tiny' and can chat or medium size and can't see the chat (despite ample space on either side but that's wasted on a widescreen laptop. @Octane has the same issue, it seems, in that we cannot make the video bigger without moving the chat to underneath - which them makes it impossible to actually join in - not without shrinking the video back down (then its too small) or scrolling down and cutting off the top of the video. The problem is that 'side-bar' with Game info in. That space that could easily fit the chat in the enlarged video mode is just dead space.
It would be better for your 'interactive' video streaming - especially with E3 and the season of gaming events - to be designed differently - as in that side bar being removed so that if you do 'enlarge' the video, the chat is pushed over to that part of the screen rather than pushed below. You can still incorporate any details or ads but as horizontal banners instead of that vertical sidebar.
I hope I have explained what the issue is. Its not a simple case of just enlarging the video its about enlarging the video AND keeping the Chat on screen - if you can...
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@Octane@BAMozzy ah okay, so you can't see it on the smaller screens? Hmm... I have considered doing a more "Twitch" like layout for the live blogs... I'll have a think - I assume that's what you have in mind?
@antdickens It is already a bit like the Twitch layout, isn't it? With the chat on the right side. I assume that's what you meant?
The issue is that when you expand the video, the chat moves down and you cannot see the chat without scrolling down or shrinking the video screen. Preferably you could watch the video and see the chat at the same time. Like @BAMozzy suggested, there's a big blue box with ''GAME INFO'' on the right side, which is kinda unnecessary for live streams anyway, so maybe move the chat over there if you expand the video screen?
I can make a few screenshots tomorrow if you want!
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