Topic: Team Knack Attack Six Pack Shack

@AdamNovice Looks good to me. I really need to play The Wolf Among Us

@AdamNovice @Kidfried @Gremio108 @Fight_Sora_Fight @Octane @mookysam
New List!

Sadly, I was sleeping at the wheel and Ralizah swept in and took the sweetest picks (Time Cirsis... I've failed you...) - I've played some of these, but I'm hoping there are Tony Hawks and Tom Clancy fans on our team!

*Stuntman: Ignition Paradigm Entertainment
*Syndicate Starbreeze Studios
*Tekken Hybrid Namco
*Terminator Salvation GRIN / Halcyon Games
*Test Drive Ferrari Legends Slightly Mad Studios
*Test Drive Unlimited 2 Eden Games
*The Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena Starbreeze Studios / Tigon Studios
*The Club Bizarre Creations
*Tom Clancy's EndWar Ubisoft Shanghai
*Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 Red Storm Entertainment
*Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Future Soldier Ubisoft Paris
*Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X Ubisoft Bucharest
*Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X 2 Ubisoft Bucharest
*Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas 2 Ubisoft Montreal
*Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Blacklist Ubisoft
*Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Classic Trilogy HD Ubisoft Montreal
*Tony Hawk's Project 8 Neversoft
*Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 5 Robomodo
*Tony Hawk's Proving Ground Neversoft
*Tony Hawk: Ride Robomodo
*Tony Hawk: Shred Robomodo
*Top Gun: Hard Lock Headstrong Games
*Top Spin 3 PAM Development
*Top Spin 4 2K Czech
*Transformers: Dark of the Moon High Moon Studios
*Transformers: Fall of Cybertron High Moon Studios
*Transformers: The Game Traveller's Tales
*Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Luxoflux
*Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark Edge of Reality
*Transformers: War for Cybertron High Moon Studios

I've played The Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena and a bit of Tekken Hybrid so shall start with them.

Assault on Dark Athena is a collection containing the remake of the first Riddick game Escape from Butcher Bay and its new, but shorter sequel Assault on Dark Athena. As such it is quite a good value package - particularly in the UK where it had a budget price.
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Basically the Riddick titles are first person stealth games, with Riddick armed with these metal spike things, but the hook is that you spend large amounts of time crawling around in the dark. At first this is quite difficult, but Riddick soon gets his weird see in the dark vision.

The first game was notable for being a particularly GOOD licensed property based on a movie franchise and this was actually quite rare back then. Starbreeze also made the wise decision to set it completely outside the events of the film, and thus it has its own plot and setting. Set in the titular Butcher Bay prison, it sees Riddick - as you would expect - scaping from this notoriously galactic Alcatraz.

The game overall plays well, runs smoothly and is also very nice looking for its time. In addition to the sizeable main story there are also a lot of side quests, fleshing out the world considerably. Stealth is thankfully a particular highlight of the gameplay, with picking off (or ignoring) enemies the best way to play. Combat is not particularly great, which I actually find to be the case in most stealth games, but here is particularly difficult and clunky.

Starbreeze did a nice job remaking the game rather than simply HD-ifying it, and the production values are solid.

I also rather enjoyed the sequel, but it seems the developer attempted to address criticism of the combat from the first by having a lot more of it and more gunplay. I liked the spaceship setting a lot, which I would say was absolutely nailed, and particularly good use of light and shadows is made. The characters and voice acting is also very good; damn is Michelle Forbes as the villainous captain nasty. Great performance!
The relatively short length of the game was viewed as a downside, but I think that within the context of the overall package it actually doesn't matter. It was shorter so resources could be devoted to online multiplayer, which no one ended up playing.

Anyhow, because of the value of the package and quality of the remake and new game, I say Assault on Dark Athena is a solid IMPORTANT.

@mookysam
Absolutely agree!

My rankings:
Syndicate IMPORTANT
Tekken Hybrid EXISTING
Chronicles of Riddick IMPORTANT
Splinter Cell Blacklist IMPORTANT
Top Spin 4 IMPORTANT
Transformers War for Cybertron EXISTING

Tekken Hybrid - A strange collection containing an HD remaster of Tag Tournament from the PS2, the feature length CG film Blood Vengeance and a demo of Tag Tournament 2.

The first Tag Tournament - originally an early PS2 release - really shows its age here. I did quite enjoy the film, particularly for its fight scenes, although the plot is utterly ludicrous. The demo is more of a bonus than anything. Tag Tournament 2 itself is rather good. EXISTING

@KalofKrypton Thanks for a decent list mate.
@Kidfried @Gremio108 @Fight_Sora_Fight @Octane @mookysam That time of the week again gang, let us know your thoughts if you can.

VERY IMPORTANT
Transformers: Fall of Cybertron

IMPORTANT
Syndicate
The Chronicles of Riddick: Assault On Dark Athena
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Blacklist
Top Spin 4
Transformers: War for Cybertron

EXISTING
Stuntman Ignition
Tekken Hybrid
Test Drive: Ferrari Legends
The Club
Tom Clancy's EndWar
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Future Solider
Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X
Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X 2
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Classic Trilogy HD
Top Spin 3

UNIMPORTANT
Terminator Salvation
Test Drive Unlimited 2
Tony Hawk's Project 8 (the PS2 and PS3 had no multiplayer but the Xbox versions did, very strange)
Tony Hawk's Proving Ground
Top Gun: Hard Lock
Transformers: Dark of the Moon
Transformers: The Game
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

POINTLESS
Tony Hawk: Ride (That's the one with the skateboard peripheral)
Tony Hawk: Shred
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 5 (Remember when the series used to be good?)
Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark

@AdamNovice Looks good to me.

@AdamNovice
I'd shift War for and Fall of Cybertron to Very Important. It had been quite along while since the last decent Transformers game (the PS2 Armada one) - and these were two fantastically staged games.

Perhaps put Tom Clancy's EndWar in to Important. I only played the demo of it, but the voice control was really very impressive I thought.

Well then team!
@AdamNovice @Kidfried @Gremio108 @Fight_Sora_Fight @Octane @mookysam

I've played exactly 1 game on this list of treasures! have at it and shout out if you've any experience here!

UEFA Euro 2008 EA Canada
UFC Personal Trainer: The Ultimate Fitness System Heavy Iron Studios
UFC Undisputed 3 Yuke's
Under Defeat HD: Deluxe Edition Rising Star Games EXISTING Great translated shmup, but other than being on available in the west, isn't particularly important.
Vancouver 2010 Eurocom
Venetica Deck13 Interactive
Wheelman Midway Studios – Newcastle / Tigon Studios
Winter Sports 2010: The Great Tournament RTL Entertainment
Winter Stars 49Games
World of Outlaws: Sprint Cars Big Ant Studios
World Series of Poker 2008: Battle for the Bracelets Left Field Productions
World Snooker Championship 2007 Blade Interactive
WRC: FIA World Rally Championship Milestone S.r.l.
WRC 2: FIA World Rally Championship Milestone S.r.l.
WRC 3: FIA World Rally Championship Milestone S.r.l.
WRC 4: FIA World Rally Championship Milestone S.r.l.
WRC Powerslide Milestone S.r.l.
WSC Real 08: World Snooker Championship Blade Interactive
WSC Real 09: World Snooker Championship Blade Interactive
WWE 2K16 Visual Concepts/Yuke's
WWE 2K17 Visual Concepts/Yuke's
WWE All Stars THQ San Diego
WWE Legends of WrestleMania Yuke's
WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2008 Yuke's
WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2009 Yuke's
WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2010 Yuke's
WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2011 Yuke's
X-Factor Koch Media
XBlaze Lost: Memories Arc System Works
Yoostar 2: In the Movies Yoostar Entertainment

I have a little experience with the WWE ones so can take those. Not back home until Saturday but will get round to it.

@mookysam You are now entirely responsible for the fate of the WWE franchise!

@KalofKrypton @Kidfried @Gremio108 @Fight_Sora_Fight @Octane @mookysam
Not too bad of a list tbh, I'm knowledgeable of WWE games so that helps. Anyway here's the current rankings, thoughts?

IMPORTANT
WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2010

EXISTING
Uefa 2008
Ufc Undisputed 3
Under Defeat HD: Deluxe Edition
World Series of Poker 2008: Battle for the Bracelets
World Snooker Championship 2007
WRC: FIA World Rally Championship
WRC 3: FIA World Rally Championship
WRC Powerslide
WSC Real 08: World Snooker Championship
WSC Real 09: World Snooker Championship
WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2008
WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2009
WWE 2K16
WWE 2K17
WWE All-Stars
XBlaze Lost: Memories

UNIMPORTANT
UFC Personal Trainer: The Ultimate Fitness System
Vancouver 2010
Venetica
Wheelman
Winter Sports 2010: The Great Tournament
World of Outlaws: Sprint Cars
WRC 2: FIA World Rally Championship
WRC 4: FIA World Rally Championship
WWE Legends of Wrestlemania
Yoostar 2: In the Movies

POINTLESS
Winter Stars
X-Factor

@AdamNovice I'm OK with that.

Anything particularly great about Smackdown vs Raw 2010?

@AdamNovice I would move smack down vs raw to Very Important. That game was huge if its the one I am thinking of (triple h on the front). My bro is a WWE fan and that's all him and his mates played. I gave it a go and was probably the best wrestling game which was extremely polished and customisable. So you can alter your walkout music and get involved in backstage brawls etc. I don't know if that had ever been done before.

World Series of Poker 2008: Battle for the Bracelets - Important.

The game has loads of the real life characters like Devilfish. The Poker is brilliant and is changed up by the players styles. It's amazing for a poker game and the best last gen bringing in fantastic game modes compared to other card games. I've had a look at the reviews and they are mostly downgraded reviews because it's poker - rather than the fact it has 6/7 types of poker and should have been applauded for the content and AI.

@KALofKRYPTON From what I read it seems like that was a step up in the franchise where it improved a lot of things.
@themcnoisy Which Smackdown Vs Raw game are we talking about?

@AdamNovice I don't know lol. But one of them was big news at some point.

@AdamNovice Looks good from what I can tell. I haven't played anything in this list other than dabbling in the WRC games. All three were solid without blowing me away, I'd say Existing is spot on.

Apologies for the delay, I'm not home til this evening so some very quick thoughts.

Smackdown vs Raw 2009 was the first to include Road to Wrestlemania, but 2010 had a lot of improvements. Most games (like other annual releases) rarely see many changes but that was one of those rare ones that did. Personally I would place 2010 in IMPORTANT and the other Smackdown vs Raw games in EXISTING Also worth mentioning that today the servers for them are closed so online multiplayer (and related trophies) is completely inaccessible.

Legends of Wrestlemania is pretty bland and by the numbers. UNIMPORTANT is fair.

@AdamNovice @Gremio108 @KALofKRYPTON

Quite an enormous list and only a week to do it so we need a methodical way to get through it all. Perhaps the best way would be to split it up into chunks. So everyone please rank 10 games that you like the most (favourite at top) and then ten games you like the least (least favourite at top) and we'll go from there. Please have answers by midday Wednesday (we're all in the UK aren't we?) and I'll collate them. Then we can quickly fine-tune it and deal with what's left.

2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil EA Canada
Absolute Supercars Eutechnyx
Adam's Venture Chronicles Vertigo Games
Adventure Time: Explore the Dungeon Because I Don't Know! WayForward Technologies
Afrika Rhino Studios
Alarm für Cobra 11: Das Syndikat Synetic
Alarm für Cobra 11: Undercover Synetic
Aliens: Colonial Marines Gearbox Software
Alone in the Dark: Inferno Eden Studios
Anarchy Reigns PlatinumGames
Apache: Air Assault Gaijin Entertainment
Ar Nosurge Gust Co. Ltd.
Ar tonelico Qoga: Knell of Ar Ciel Gust Corporation
Arcania: The Complete Tale Black Forest Games
Army of Two EA Montreal
Army of Two: The Devil's Cartel Visceral Montreal
Ashes Cricket 2009 Transmission Games
Atelier Arland Trilogy Gust, NIS America
Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk Gust Corporation
Atelier Escha & Logy: Alchemists of the Dusk Sky Gust Corporation
Atelier Meruru: The Apprentice of Arland Gust Corporation
Atelier Rorona Plus: The Alchemist of Arland Gust
Atelier Shallie: Alchemists of the Dusk Sea Gust Corporation
Atelier Totori: The Adventurer of Arland Gust Corporation
Backbreaker NaturalMotion
Baja: Edge of Control 2XL Games
Bakugan Battle Brawlers Now Production
Barbie & Her Sisters: Puppy Rescue Torus Games
Beijing 2008 Eurocom
Ben 10 Ultimate Alien: Cosmic Destruction D3 Publisher
Ben 10: Galactic Racing D3 Publisher
Ben 10: Omniverse D3 Publisher
Beowulf: The Game Ubisoft Shanghai
BlackSite: Area 51 Midway Studios Austin
Blades of Time Gaijin Entertainment
Bladestorm: The Hundred Years' War Omega Force
Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII Ubisoft Bucharest
Bleach: Soul Resurrección SCE Japan Studio
Bolt Avalanche Software
Bound by Flame Spiders
Brain Challenge Gameloft
Brave: The Video Game Behaviour Interactive
Buzz!: Brain of the World Relentless Software
Buzz!: Quiz World Relentless Software
Buzz!: The Ultimate Music Quiz Relentless Software
Cabela's Dangerous Hunts 2013 Activision
Cabelas Survival: Shadows of Katmai Fun Labs
Call of Duty: Black Ops III Treyarch, Mercenary Technology
Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood Techland
Cars 3: Driven to Win Disney Interactive Studios
Cartoon Network: Punch Time Explosion XL Papaya Studio
Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs Ubisoft Shanghai
Cross Edge Compile Heart
Dance! It's Your Stage Neopica
Dark Void Airtight Games
de Blob 2 Blue Tongue Entertainment
Dead Island: Riptide Techland
Dead Space 3 Visceral Games
Dead to Rights: Retribution Volatile Games
Def Jam: Icon EA Chicago
Dengeki Bunko: Fighting Climax French Bread (game developer)
Disney Sing It Zoë Mode
Disney Sing It! – High School Musical 3: Senior Year Zoë Mode
Disney Sing It: Family Hits Zoë Mode
Disney Sing It: Pop Hits Zoë Mode
Doctor Who: The Eternity Clock Id Software
Doom 3 BFG Edition Id Software
Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Z Artdink
Dragon Ball Z: Burst Limit Dimps
Dragon Ball Z: Ultimate Tenkaichi Spike
Dragon Ball: Raging Blast Spike
Dragon Ball: Raging Blast 2 Spike
DreamWorks Super Star Kartz Activision
Duke Nukem Forever 3D Realms / Triptych Games / Gearbox Software / Piranha Games
Dynasty Warriors 6 Omega Force
Dynasty Warriors 6 Empires Omega Force
Dynasty Warriors 7 Empires Omega Force
Dynasty Warriors: Gundam 2 Omega Force
Dynasty Warriors: Gundam Reborn Omega Force
Dynasty Warriors: Strikeforce Blue Omega Entertainment
El Chavo Kart Effecto Studios / Slang
Enchanted Arms From Software
Enemy Front CI Games
Enemy Territory: Quake Wars Splash Damage / Underground Development
Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two Junction Point Studios
Escape Dead Island Fatshark
F1 2010 Codemasters Birmingham
F1 Race Stars Codemasters
Family Guy: Back to the Multiverse Heavy Iron Studio
Farming Simulator 15 GIANTS Software
Ferrari Challenge: Trofeo Pirelli Eutechnyx
Ferrari: The Race Experience Eutechnyx
FIFA 11 EA Canada
FIFA 15 EA Canada
FIFA 16 EA Canada
FIFA 17 EA Canada
FIFA Street 3 EA Canada
Final Fantasy XIII-2 Square Enix

@themcnoisy Didn't we put Final Fantasy XIII-2 in the existing category when we were doing our initial rankings. Did it get moved when there was a veto?