Topic: Team Knack Attack Six Pack Shack

@KALofKRYPTON @Kidfried @Gremio108 @Fight_Sora_Fight @Octane Time's up, thanks everyone for taking part. Will let you know what I plan to do for the next set of games later on.

@AdamNovice cool

Where's team 303? Please tell me it's not team Microtransaction because I don't want to be in that team "Hate microtransactions with a passion" lol.

@TowaHerschel7 this is a different team. Our thread is under forums-ps3-/team_404_-_team_name_not_found_deliberation_station

Hey Team Knack Attack, I have put a lot of time into the BlazBlue games, happy to fill you in on the good and bad bits of the series and save your team the trouble of research if no one here has played them. Let me know, cheers.

Not had much play with the new list, but here goes:

BioShock Irrational Games / 2K Marin
VERY IMPORTANT I don't think much needs to be said about the Bioshock series.

BioShock 2 2K Marin / Digital Extremes / 2K Australia / 2K China / Arkane Studios
IMPORTANT

BioShock Infinite Irrational Games
IMPORTANT

Birds of Steel Gaijin Entertainment
EXISTING
Gaijin always throws together competent arcade/flight sim games. Not setting the world on fire, but good games.

BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger Arc System Works
EXISTING
BlazBlue: Central Fiction Arc System Works
Don't know - @LieutenantFatman this is the last release isn't it?
BlazBlue: Continuum Shift Arc System Works
EXISTING
BlazBlue: Chrono Phantasma Arc System Works
EXISTING
Good games, though diminishing returns as the series moves on.

Blur Bizarre Creations
VERY IMPORTANT
Stunning, compelling and incredibly fun riff on the arcade racer. Also Bizarre Creations last game.

Burnout Paradise Criterion Games
IMPORTANT
Good game, excellent online integration and essentially the blueprint for Criterion's stellar spell on the NFS series.

@KALofKRYPTON
Yep, Central Fiction is the latest one. They decided not to bother doing any English voice acting for this one, which is a 1st, massive let down in my opinion. But I read the gameplay and everything else is still very good.

@AdamNovice Hi pal, is it OK if @mookysam joins your team. He has read up on the threads and would like to join in.

@LieutenantFatman
Where you put it?

I've found the previous games pretty iterative, but presentation and feel is always on point; and lord only knows how many hours of content!

@themcnoisy Of course. Welcome to the team @Mookysam

@KALofKRYPTON
I haven't played the latest one, the voice acting was something I really enjoyed in the other games so it put me off. I think either important or existing would be fair for the other games. The very long and convoluted story was ok but the various comedy endings when you picked the wrong choices could be very entertaining.

Tekken & Street Fighter may have the best game play but these are still very solid fighters with 1,000 times the amount of potential game time.

@LieutenantFatman I'd put them on par with Street Fighter & Guilty Gear. They're deceptively simple depending on the character - but also almost incomprehensibly deep.

Tekken is still very OK looking in from the outside. Don't think I've played one since Dark Resurrection, which was great, actually.

@KALofKRYPTON @Kidfried @Gremio108 @Fight_Sora_Fight @Octane Alright gang a new week and new games to rank. And a warm welcome to @mookysam as our new team member.

BioShock Irrational Games / 2K Marin
BioShock 2 2K Marin / Digital Extremes / 2K Australia / 2K China / Arkane Studios
BioShock Infinite Irrational Games
Birds of Steel Gaijin Entertainment
BlackSite: Area 51 Midway Studios Austin
Blades of Time Gaijin Entertainment
Bladestorm: The Hundred Years' War Omega Force
BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger Arc System Works
BlazBlue: Central Fiction Arc System Works
BlazBlue: Continuum Shift Arc System Works
BlazBlue: Chrono Phantasma Arc System Works
Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII Ubisoft Bucharest
Blazing Angels 2: Secret Missions of WWII Ubisoft Bucharest
Bleach: Soul Resurrección SCE Japan Studio
Blitz: The League II Midway Games
BloodBath: Fight for your life UIG
Blood Drive Sidhe
Blur Bizarre Creations
Bodycount Codemasters Studios Guildford
Bolt Avalanche Software
Borderlands Gearbox Software
Borderlands 2 Gearbox Software
Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel! 2K Australia
Bound by Flame Spiders
Brain Challenge Gameloft
Brave: The Video Game Behaviour Interactive
Brink Splash Damage
Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway Gearbox Software
Brunswick Pro Bowling FarSight Studios
Brütal Legend Double Fine Productions
Bulletstorm People Can Fly
Burnout Paradise Criterion Games

Some better games here personally.
My personal rankings are: Bioshock VERY IMPORTANT
Bioshock 2 IMPORTANT
Bioshock Infinite IMPORTANT
Borderlands IMPORTANT
Borderlands 2 VERY IMPORTANT
Borderlands The Pre-Sequel EXISTING
Brutal Legend IMPORTANT
Bulletstorm IMPORTANT
Burnout Paradise VERY IMPORTANT

@AdamNovice Hello and thanks for having me! Bit late joining in as I was away and didn't see the thread.

Great list of games here with quite a few I'd easily rank as being among the best of their generation. Shall read through and decide where I think they should go. I'll maybe need to research a few as I don't want to automatically dismiss things I haven't played or heard of before.

I've played 0 of those games lol.

Oh boy this is a proper list. I'll go through the games I've personally played, or had some contact with.

Bioshock. I don't know how this holds up today but when I played it early in the PS3's lifespan it felt like I was playing something special. The atmosphere is positively claustrophobic and the combat is solid. But it's the world and its characters, plus the story which have to put it in the Very Important category. It was a step up for gaming, story-wise.
The second and third one I haven't played, but from what I've heard of the third one, it's the equal of the first, and tackles even bigger themes. I'd be tempted to say Very Important for that one as well. Not sure about Bioshock 2, although it seems to have gone up in the general estimation in the years since.

Bioshock - Very Important
Bioshock 2 - Important
Bioshock Infiinite - Very Important

Borderlands is one of those where it depends whether you value the first game for its impact, or the second game for perfecting the formula. For me, I'd place the first game in the Very Important category. It single-handedly brought the cel-shaded art style back from the dead and I will always love it for that, as well as helping to popularise loot-based games on console, at a time when they were mainly the preserve of the PC. But also, the characters were ace, the shooting was addictive as hell and the guns were terrific.
There wasn't much plot to speak of, and Borderlands 2 improved on that in some ways. For a start, the second game actually had a plot. I don't remember much of it, but having used Mordecai throughout the first game and spamming his pet bird Bloodwing on every enemy that crossed my path, having to then fight and kill Bloodwing in the second game rocked me to my very core. I can't adequately describe how much I hate Handsome Jack for turning my beautiful birdy evil. I actually punched the air in Tales From The Borderlands when Jack died. I'd be tempted to put Borderlands 2 in the Very Important category, but that might just be personal bias speaking.
Borderlands The Pre-Sequel is a strange one. It's based on one of Pandora's moons so the locations are quite repetitive, at least to begin with. Also everyone is Australian for some reason. I don't know why I thought that was worth mentioning, I just had to say it. It does help to give the game its own identity though. In the final third, I felt the game really opened up and became more interesting. The plot got very good indeed, dealing with the tragic story of Handsome Jack and how he became such a jerk (I hate you so, so much Jack) and the late-game bosses are up there with the best in the series. Although it's considered the weakest entry, it's just as good as the others eventually, it just takes a long time getting there. Also, you can play as Claptrap! And he's a robot, so he's not affected by the lack of oxygen! Still, you'd be hard-pressed to place The Pre-Sequel any higher than Existing, as by the third entry, the formula was beginning to get a bit tired.

Borderlands - Very Important
Borderlands 2 - Very Important
Borderlands The Pre-Sequel - Existing

As you may have guessed, I'm a big fan of Borderlands. God I can't wait for Borderlands 3.

Burnout Paradise is another one that seems to have grown in reputation since its release. I remember it coming out and the general consensus being that it was a slight disappointment. I've only played a tiny bit but it seemed fun to me. And it kind of laid down the framework for the open-world racer, which The Crew and Forza Horizon 4 would later pick up and run with.

Burnout Paradise - Important, maybe Very Important.

My friend raved about BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger when it came out. From what little I've played, I'd say that at the very least, it made the Street Fighters of this world up their game a little bit. I'd put that one in Important.

I've never played Avalanche Studios' Bolt, but that film was the mutt's nuts. Same goes for Brave.

@AdamNovice These are just my two cents and I'm happy to be overruled on any of this. I'm just enjoying revisiting all these old games and writing mini-reviews!

Hey guys, hope you don't mind me butting in here (I actually know some of these games unlike my list though... Those "wonderful" Cabela games 😅)

Having played the Handsome collection very recently (My first experience with the series in fact) Borderlands the Pre-sequel was actually developed by 2k Australia with some assistance from Gearbox Software

I think it was their (2K Australia) first and only game under this banner though before they got shut down.

So that's probably why @Gremio108 that aside from the pre-existing characters everyone is Australian in this game. Also being on the moon instead of Pandora justifys it a little more.

For the Borderlands and BioShock's both you and @AdamNovice have already summed them up nicely with scores i would've given.

You could probably lower Bioshock 2 to Existing if you wanted as it doesn't add anything particularly new or exciting to the series. I quite liked it, not as good as the first or third but it was pretty solid to me personally.

The shooting mechanics weren't as clunky with you being able to use a plasmid and a weapon at the same time compared to the original where it was one or the other.

The DLC Minerva's Den was very well received from what I recall (Though I've never played it) with it's story considered a major upgrade from the base game which was serviceable.

Though the multiplayer mode was tacked on from what I remember.

As for the Blazblue games... I've only played Calamity Trigger and Continuum Shift (The first and second games)

I'm not that good at fighting games at all (Though i do enjoy them quite a bit) but I could play through them decently enough and the story mode was actually pretty long for both games if I'm remembering right.

Extremely convoluted though (Similar to Kingdom Hearts I'd say in all the jargon) and leaning heavily on a trope or three for the writing but it was well voice acted (Well in English at least though I'm sure the Japanese voices were good too)

Brütal Legend... Was pretty good. Not much I can really say other then there's no other game quite like it!

Anyway thanks for reading my ramblings, have fun sorting these all out!

@KALofKRYPTON @Kidfried @Gremio108 @Fight_Sora_Fight @Octane @mookysam Alright team here's the first ranking summary, let us know if there's anything you wish to change.

BioShock Irrational Games / 2K Marin VERY IMPORTANT
BioShock 2 2K Marin / Digital Extremes / 2K Australia / 2K China / Arkane Studios IMPORTANT
BioShock Infinite Irrational Games IMPORTANT
Birds of Steel Gaijin Entertainment
BlackSite: Area 51 Midway Studios Austin
Blades of Time Gaijin Entertainment
Bladestorm: The Hundred Years' War Omega Force
BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger Arc System Works IMPORTANT
BlazBlue: Central Fiction Arc System Works
BlazBlue: Continuum Shift Arc System Works
BlazBlue: Chrono Phantasma Arc System Works
Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII Ubisoft Bucharest
Blazing Angels 2: Secret Missions of WWII Ubisoft Bucharest
Bleach: Soul Resurrección SCE Japan Studio
Blitz: The League II Midway Games
BloodBath: Fight for your life UIG
Blood Drive Sidhe
Blur Bizarre Creations
Bodycount Codemasters Studios Guildford
Bolt Avalanche Software
Borderlands Gearbox Software IMPORTANT
Borderlands 2 Gearbox Software VERY IMPORTANT
Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel! 2K Australia EXISTING
Bound by Flame Spiders
Brain Challenge Gameloft
Brave: The Video Game Behaviour Interactive
Brink Splash Damage EXISTING
Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway Gearbox Software
Brunswick Pro Bowling FarSight Studios
Brütal Legend Double Fine Productions IMPORTANT
Bulletstorm People Can Fly IMPORTANT
Burnout Paradise Criterion Games VERY IMPORTANT

@Octane Don't worry about it mate, I think all of us will get that at some point during this.

@LieutenantFatman Your thoughts on Blazeblue will be very helpful mate, thanks.
@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy Thanks for your input mate, it's been a great help.

I'll research the others later on and put up the recommendations like last time.

@AdamNovice Blur. Very Important/Important