Topic: PS4 recommendation thread

@Draco_V_Ecliptic I wouldn’t say there is a lot of puzzles in it.

I wrote a long piece on it after completing it (in one sitting!) which is somewhere in the reviews thread.

The middle third focuses less on combat and more on sort of puzzles than the rest of the game. The combat is a little limited but solid (although not that well explained so it’s worth looking up a guide as I completed the game not knowing about some moves).

The game looks fantastic and the story is top notch. I also massively recommend playing with headphones for the full experience.

@Thrillho Ah, well if the combat isn't anything special I may overlook it. Did you ever play Kingdom Come: Deliverance? As I'm interested in that as well.

@Draco_V_Ecliptic I mean, I liked the combat and the big fights are good fun; I won the screenshot competition with a pic from one of my favourite boss fights of recent years in this game. Just don’t expect to be unlocking new moves or gear through the game.

And I haven’t played that one.

Evening guys, I have a question about 2 games I am hearing good things about they are the following.

The Last Guardian
Shadow of the Colossus

I am curious of your opinions do these games belong in the top tier of games like God of War, Witcher 3, RDR2 and so on. So anyone with a console are they a must-have in your collection. Because as I said I am hearing good things and like always like other opinions do these games have a good story and good characters?

@Draco_V_Ecliptic I've put something like 200 hours in the goty edition of KCD. I loved the attention on details, the humor and the unforgivable combat system.

@Davehunt I have only played The Last Guardian and I really enjoyed it. It’s quite different to anything I’ve played before as so much of the gameplay revolves around you and your relationship with Trico.

The game explains almost nothing to you so you have to figure out how to get this giant creature to do what you want. This leads to great moments where it clicks and you feel you’re actually developing a bond with this virtual creature. But it also leads to moments where you just cannot get the stupid thing to do anything you want.

Luckily for me, I only had the latter experience once or twice.

Definitely worth picking up for the few pounds it normally goes for on sale.

@Davehunt I would personally place Shadow of the Colossus in my top games of all time. The remake done for PS4 is fabulous. However, it’s not a game like any other you’ve played. The boss fights have been described as each a separate puzzle to figure out in order to defeat it. There’s an action aspect to combat, but also a strategy aspect. The story is pretty understated, but if you like things that are contemplative, then there’s some great content. It’s just that there is a lot more symbolism and moral/ethical dilemma in the fabric of the game’s narrative. Visually stunning, mechanically unique, and artistically satisfying. Just a fantastic game, in my opinion.

The Last Guardian is a game with a slightly more traditional narrative, as others have stated above in this thread. However, even it’s “story” is Ueda’s brand of artistic and somber introspection. Don’t expect a traditional plot with multiple characters and a fleshed out storyline, rather it’s a tale of the animal and the boy bonding and navigating the strange setting they are in.

Of course both games being from the same developer, they share a lot of qualities and have a similar vibe. Ueda said that the whole idea of Trico in The Last Guardian came from feedback of players of Shadow of the Colossus and how they got so attached to Agro, the protagonists horse in SotC. It prompted him to explore the idea of a relationship with man and beast, and that’s what gave rise to TLG.

But for my money, SotC is the better game, and really the one more deserving of the label as a “classic” or “greatest hits” level of game (although TLG is no slouch). Still, it’s not RDR2, Witcher 3, or GoW. But it’s like saying is a Picasso still on par with a Rembrandt? — they are both great works of art, but yet very different from one another.

Calling the story in SotC non-existent is like saying Salvador Dali’s art doesn’t make sense. It’s literally the point. The game takes away traditional methods of storytelling and presents it through emotions and visual elements instead. It’s worth playing through at least once in your lifetime, same as Journey, Silent Hill 2, What Remains of Edith Finch etc. Games as art is real and important to the recognition of the medium as a whole.

@Davehunt SotC is a unique gameplay experience, but it's probably not what you're looking for if you want a lengthy and story-driven video game like the ones you mentioned.

@nessisonett I wouldn't lump in walking simulators with games like SotC and SH2, though. These games succeed in being both satisfying artistic experiences and engaging gameplay experiences with excellent level design, puzzles, combat, etc.

@Davehunt honestly I just couldn’t get myself to finish SoTC on PS4. The horse riding and controls overall felt so annoying, boss fights were boring, slow and predictable. If you compare giants like RDR2 and God of War to SoTC it isn’t even close. While I consider The Last Guardian for one of the best PlayStation exclusives for its uniqueness of story telling and the charm that just flies in the air throughout the whole game. My pick is TLG.

I just want to say thanks to everyone for their replies. Also, yes the question was are these 2 games TOP Tier like RDR2, Witcher 3, God of War, etc with a very good story and very good characters you can get into. Because my cousin and his m8 said these 2 games are very good so was curious about the characters and story. Because when I buy games they need to have a very good story and good characters you can get into. That's why I always ask questions on here because everyone's always helpful, and I am still technically new to Console gaming.

@Davehunt I think it’s important to note that not every game out there is an open world third person action game. Trying to compare RDR2 and SotC is like comparing a watermelon to a tuna sandwich. They might both be food and share similarities on a base level but they’re of entirely different varieties. Besides, ICO, SotC and TLG all do have great stories, possibly more-so than those games you’ve mentioned. They’re just told in a non-traditional way.

I think what I typed also could have confused ppl. I didn't mean are they like RDR2, Witcher 3, God of War with style-wise, and stuff I just meant do these games have a good story with good characters and do they belong in the "Top Tier games list" sorry if I confused some ppl. Because some replies I am reading ppl seem to think I am trying to compare them kinda games to the 2 games I asked about. This isn't the case I just wanted to know if they belong in the Top Tier games list and do they have a good story and good characters sorry if I confused some ppl.

Hello All, Another question about another 2 games I think I'd pref these 2 than the other 2 I mentioned last night which are.

Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice
Detroit Become Human

What do u guys think of these 2 games what's your opinions on them? Looking at the demo's and trailers I think I'd pref these 2 than The Last Guardian + Shadow of the Colossus but curious to hear your thought's on Hellblade + Detroit Become Human.

@Davehunt I was talking about Hellblade on the last page, literally just above your first post

I thought the game was great. It looks great and has a fantastic story. The combat is fun but a little samey (especially with only a handful of enemy types).

I don’t know how much you know about the game but it’s most unique feature is that the lead character hears voices talking to her. The game is meant to be played with headphones so you hear the voices yourself and it adds a whole other level to the experience.

The Norse mythology is also well done (and how it clashes with Celtic lore here) so is very God of War.

It’s not an especially long game (I completed it in one sitting pulling an all nighter) but I highly recommend it, especially if you can pick it up on sale.

I’ve yet to play Detroit but have it on my console as it was a PS+ freebie. The games by David Cage are very different as they’re highly narrative focused but with serious implications on the decisions you make. I’m sure others can say more.

@Davehunt Detroit Become Human is a masterpiece. The amount of hard and emotional choices that go throughout the whole game, the tensitity of everything happening, hell even cameraman’s job was done with high class. The whole game feels like a real movie and you feel like a part of it. When your characters die, you feel for them, the games makes you feel things I’ve never felt in a game before. Like one time, when Alice drops her glove and a kind officer wanted to give it back to her called Kara, at that moment I really didn’t think he had any good intentions so I chose the option to shoot both of them. The realization that they weren’t having bad intentions were so bad and amazing for me at the same time. This game is the best ever Interactive Cinema game and nobody can tell me otherwise. This is one of those games that totally change your gaming world upside down and shows a new definition of a quality project. I’m done here. Thanks.

@Davehunt If I’m interpreting your post and question correctly, then I say Detroit Become Human is the closest game of the four that fit your definition of “a good story with good characters.”
To be clear though, every single one of the four games you asked about belongs in the pantheon of PS4 “Top Tier Games”, just as do W3, GoW, and RDR2. I would say these 7 games are arguably all in the top 20-30 games this generation, clearly the top 5-10% quality-wise. I say this without having finished W3 or GoW but the consensus there is fairly indisputable that they are “top tier.”

But if you want a game that is A) “Top Tier” AND B) “has a good [traditional] story and good characters” then Detroit is going to be the best fit.
SotC, TLG, and Hellblade all have extremely compelling worlds, settings, and art, but each one literally has only one or two characters in the game. There is exceedingly little character interaction and almost no dialogue in each of those 3 games, which it would appear is what you are looking for. The literary conflict in those 3 are more thematically: man/woman vs. himself/herself, and man vs. nature, or man vs. the environment rather than traditional man vs. man, or man vs. the supernatural like occurs heavily in games like GoW, W3, RDR2.
Detroit has plenty of characters to get into which interact with other characters, plenty of dialogue, a compelling story to follow, and is expertly crafting from a development standpoint. I feel like you may be unsatisfied with the other 3 games since there is almost no other characters in them except the single protagonist, therefore “good characters” (plural) being one of your requirements would make you quite disappointed. ...Even if those 3 games are some of my personal favorites.

But for the record, Detroit is brilliant too. Also one of my favorites.

@Skoda I’m moving my reply over here to keep from derailing the other thread.

I’m not sure about the classic games, but it sounds like you value open world and freedom in your games. Personally, I’ve never had any interest in Fallout nor in Far Cry, so remarkably — even with being a pretty hardcore gamer I’ve never played any Fallout of Far Cry games. Just not my cup of tea. Far Cry has always seemed too iterative to me and Fallout sounds like a slog. But to each their own...

Nevertheless, even though those are two series I don’t play, I know roughly what kind of games they are. You might try your hand at The Outer Worlds which many have praised as the best Fallout style game out there. The Fallout crowd has loved it.

Again, this is coming from a point of ignorance on my part because it’s not up my alley, but GTA5 would be another thought of a game you should try. Pretty sure it would be the epitome of open world sandbox, the depth of which it appears you value in your games. Red Dead Redemption 2 is the closest thing I’ve played to that genre and I loved that game. If you want freedom within your game, it’s my opinion that RDR2 has the most intricate open world sandbox out there. The gunplay isn’t necessarily the best, but you can really do whatever you want in that game and the game allows you to approach it is nearly an infinite number of ways with a huge amount of customization to your play style. People complain about how slow the game is, so be warned about that aspect though, but I’ve heard the same complaints about Fallout. The controls in RDR2 will not be snappy and kinetic like a FPS, mind.

A couple other thoughts — if you like the fantasy setting and really prefer the first person viewpoint, you can’t go wrong with Skyrim. There is a huge amount of freedom there to wander about, use all manner of weapons and skills, and you can make of it what you want within the narrative. Another would be Kingdom Come Deliverance which is very open and free as well. I haven’t played it though.

And lastly — if you can hold out for a couple months, Cyberpunk 2077 looks like it will be exactly what you might like. A first person, shooter based, intricate open world with tons of freedom to do what you want and it a futuristic/modern setting closer to Fallout.

As always guys thanks for your opinions in the end I went with the following.
The Last of Us Part II
Detroit Become Human
The Order: 1886

Hey guys I’m not sure if this is the right place to ask so but could anyone help me? I got a Ps Store gift card as a gift but apparently it doesn’t work (Already used or outdated). I want to get it back to store and replace, but they told me I should have some solid evidence that I wasn’t the one who used it. Could anyone tell me a way to do so please? Thanks if you responded.