@thiz Fair enough. It’s all good. I struggle with the concept too. Part of me likes to own the things I cherish most. Therefore I have kept my physical copy of Uncharted 4, even though I now have access to it through Plus. Same with movies. I have digital streaming access to thousands of movies through the services I’m on (Netflix, Disney+, etc.) but I still buy a hard copy of those that I love the most. It is a nice way test out games / shows you’re unsure of though.
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
I very much agree with your point. A friend gave me his copy of KH3 (a friend who had played previous entries - whereas I was totally new to it)
I had NO CLUE what the plot was about. Tons of jrpg types and interrelated stories and a bunch of Disney stuff I'm frankly too old to care about. Engine was acceptable and gameplay easy enough but unless you are a fan of the series it's probably best to go for previous entries first.
Anyhow. Main reason I visited this thread is am looking to pick up either god of war or Nier automata in near future. Heard good things about both. Any advice as to which to go for first? Ideally from players who've had both
@Sorteddan Since no one has chimed in yet, I’ll give you some opinion on NieR Automata — one of my favorites this generation. I think I have it listed as my personal #4 in the “Top 5” thread. Unfortunately I haven’t played God of War yet. I have it ready to play soon, I hope.
Both games are certainly excellent choices. Strangely, Nier is going to be the more expensive of the two, if cost is a factor. And I say that’s strange because it’s actually the older of the two games and also the less “accomplished” from a critical acclaim standpoint. But by virtue of GoW being a greatest hits, the most you’d have to pay is $20 for digital or new physical copy. NieR is still $40 on the PSN store.
NieR is probably more of a niche game. It has very engaging action combat. A slightly complex ‘hack -n- slash’ in the vein of a Devil May Cry. Quick and flashy moves with sword and companion robot pod turret fire with deft, almost balletic movement of your character. And while the combat is quite well developed along with light RPG type progression, it’s really the story that makes it special. But not in the same way that a game like The Last of Us or Red Dead Redemption has a strong story, The narrative in NieR Automata is great for it’s unconventional telling and quirkiness. It’s definitely got a Japanese flair to it, and you can feel the Square Enix echoes within. But this is vintage Yoko Taro — a man who’s oddity stretches far beyond any cultural peculiarities. His brain is in a whole other world. So the strange and unique manner in which the tale is told, over several playthroughs with multiple endings, is not for everyone. Because the real impact of the game, in my opinion, is only manifest when you make it all the way to the true ending. It’s hard to explain without spoiling it for you, so I’ll leave it at that. But if you’re the kind of player who likes a little narrative diversity, light philosophy, and slight analytics and depth to your storytelling, then you’ll quite like NieR Automata. Or if you like experiencing something new and different, and unlike any other game you’ve played before, then it’s one of the more daring games I’ve played this generation.
However I think if you rather try something safe, with an established franchise and well known protagonist, God of War is probably more of a guarantee to please the average gamer. I hear that it does innovate somewhat also, certainly it’s a reinvention of the franchise, but in the end I believe it’s a story that is more or less a linear affair with traditional beginning and an end. I am anxious to see this single shot camera work that they were all in a fuss about when it came out. It’s surely a spectacularly polished and well developed game that I know I’ll enjoy if I can just get around to it. But I wonder if I’ll still be pondering the game 2 years after playing it like I do about NieR Automata. Few games have done that to me.
I do see that you struggled to find enjoyment in Kingdom Hearts and, although I haven’t played those games I’m pretty sure KH narrative is just a plain mess, whereas in NieR there is a method to the madness. However, if having to concentrate through the story to put the pieces together is a turn-off, then maybe go with GoW for it’s more traditional ‘Hollywood style’ storytelling experience.
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Thanks for your detailed response. Your enthusiasm decided it for me so I opted for Nier...
However when I went to trade in a bunch of old stuff gathering dust on the shelf I got way more than expected so was able to pick em both up - along with Horizon Zero Dawn, Prey and Wolfenstein: New Order!
Awesome. Just awesome.
Anyhow with those plus my current backlog I got way too much to occupy my time for the duration.
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@Sorteddan Great! It’s a win-win. Horizon Zero Dawn is also a gem. Doesn’t quite crack my top 5 but is fantastic all the same. It’s strength is in the combat and fun setting. The story turns out to be surprisingly good too. It dragged a teeny bit through the middle (which the same can definitely be said of NieR) but it picks up at the latter part and hooked me through to the epic conclusion.
Prey and New Order are two that I have on my list to try one day, as I hear great things on both as well. But like you, I have a back-breaking backlog of my own that makes it hard experience everything I want. I think God of War may be coming up soon if I can pull myself away from Ghost of Tsushima. Lately I just follow my mood and pull things from the backlog when I feel the urge.
I hope you enjoy your new games!
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
@Th3solution exactly the same with Nier Automata. Going down a few wikia rabbit holes and going through the art books and stuff, it's crazy how much I missed out on because I wasn't paying attention. The second (full) playthrough had it all stuck in my head ever since. About a year or so ago now.
@BowTiesAreCool Agreed. Reading and watching YouTube videos after finishing the game is some of the best part of the experience, where you can contemplate philosophical meanings and see all the theories out there. I too missed a few salient points on the way through since it’s easy to just get in “video game mode” and just hack and slash away. I didn’t do a repeat full playthrough yet. I do listen to the soundtrack often, however. Fantastic game.
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
I was thinking of getting one or two of these games: Spongebob Squarepants: Battle For Bikini Bottom Rehydrated, Batman: Arkham Knight Premium Edition, Uncharted 4: A Thief's End or The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt GOTY Edition. I have already completed Batman and The Witcher, but I am interested in their DLCs if one or both of them have DLC-related trophies? Out of the other games listed which do you think is the better game and worth playing over the other one, out of Spongebob & Uncharted 4? Thanks in advance.
I'm after Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order (Deluxe Edition) next. Does anyone reckon it'll be worth it for someone coming from the Souls games? I've played a little of it and was satisfied with the mechanics, but didn't play enough to give an educated verdict. Anyway, is it similar enough to be thoroughly enjoyable? Or just a great game overall anyway, in which case I would get it anyway. I noticed some Uncharted elements thrown into the mix in the prologue as well, so that obviously differentiates it from Dark Souls ,somewhat.
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@Draco_V_Ecliptic I agree completely with @RogerRoger and don’t have much to add, except to say that the Souls-like combat is a wee-bit toned down from the Souls games I played. I did Fallen Order on Jedi Master, so I image if you do the hardest difficulty of Grand Master then you’ll experience a close combat experience to the FromSoftware titles.
Although I would recommend Fallen Order to those who want a Souls-like with a more overt storyline and some Star Wars charisma, have you considered Nioh, Nioh 2, The Surge, The Surge 2, or Code Vein? I’ve played none of the them but all have the FromSoft inspiration from what I can tell and it sounds like you’re hungry for more of that.
“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”
@Draco_V_Ecliptic I’d say it’s closer to Sekiro in that it’s an action game, not an RPG. I enjoyed it enough to platinum the game, just technical issues held it back from being a really great game for me. That being said, it’s not as if the Souls games aren’t technical disasters on many fronts so perhaps that would give that certain janky flair the Souls games are known for.
Thinking of picking up Bayonetta after completing Jedi Fallen Order. Does anyone know if it's worth it? Would you say it's a bit of a come-down after STWJFO? The gameplay looks similar to the original God of War trilogy. Is it? On a side-note, I really enjoyed Ascension in that original series of GoW video games, but a fiendishly difficult puzzle put me off, even a Youtube walkthrough couldn't help me. Does Bayonetta have many puzzles? Is there a lot of story like in Jedi Fallen Order?
I am also interested in a game called 'The Forest' . What's that like? Would anyone recommend it?
@Draco_V_Ecliptic Bayonetta is the quintessence of Platinum Games and the many difficulty levels let you play as you prefer, focusing on it's fast and brutal combat system. Puzzles? None, but you can customize the character buying weapons, accessories and weapons.
Vanquish is another must play among action games!
I've seen a couple of video reviews for Nexomon: Extinction which were rather positive compared the more middling mini review by ShogunRok on here and was just wondering if anyone here has some first hand experience with the game as I've heard it's already had a number of quality of life improvements to it?
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@Draco_V_Ecliptic I really enjoyed Nioh as the weapon stance mechanic gave some good variety. The bosses were well designed and the level format worked fine.
They needed a greater array of enemy types but overall I liked it. That said, I’ve not felt the need to play the second game.
@Draco_V_Ecliptic I got the platinum for Star Wars in my first playthrough, I didn’t really want to play the game all over again. Nioh though, that’s a brilliant game. I’d put it up there with Dark Souls but it’s more of a Ninja Gaiden successor than anything. Bayonetta’s also brilliant but it’s a straight action game and not everyone likes that.
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