Topic: Unable to check trophies while offline. Good or bad? =)))))

Hey, guys, I found out recently, that I can't check trophies on PS4 while offline. It doesn't bother me much most of the time, but I were really irritated yearstoday, when I tried to check trophies and couldn't, because my provider had maintance. Eh, I really hate those artificial limitations =(. It's the same thing as one account limit on Vita, if you ask me. And I also don't like, that when you trying to check out trophies, you always need to wait for synchronization with servers. Why can't everything be easy and simple? T___T... When you give online to corporate monkeys, it's like you give a grenade to real monkey =)))). So, do you think it's bad or good, being unable to check trophies offline?

It doesn't bother me but then again I am not big on trophies. For someone who is a trophy junkie I can see why it might be an inconvenience but it's nothing to get worked up about.

It's not the end of the world if you can't, but there's no good reason for you not to be able to. It's just sub-par if you can't. I also don't see how someone could argue this is good.

That's exactly my point. It's not good, no matter how you look at it. So why did Sony do this? Why sony made life of it's consumers a little bit harder and annoying?

Trophy junkie =). Oh, my. For me, trophies are more like 100% completition of the game, I mean, even in times of PS1, I liked to beat everything possible from games, all costumes, unlockables and setera. So, I've played less games, but tried to beat everything out of them. So I played only those games, that I really liked. And now, I never playing for trophies, but if I liked a game, trophies are good way to experience more goodness out of it and share your passion about a game with others, LOL =).

Anyway, from my point of view, being unable to check trophies offline is a little sign of constant online connectivity in the future. And even if it's not, it still is something similar. You have a choice to be always online or have a brick instead of console. Here you don't have trophies if you are offline. And I have no idea why it is like this. Why limit functionality? You can't even see trophies, if you are offline T___T... For me social aspect of trophies is less important, than their completion side. So I don't care about trophy sync and crap, just gimmi my list... =). Let me check it out any time of the day. Uh.... it's just good to complete things you like =).

Trophies, I love them. You could view x360 cheevos off line and lets be honest - trophies are for personal satisfaction. So it should be included offline. I have collected a few recently but any pick up x amount of these trophies I don't bother with.

I believe that you can check XB360 achievements offline if you are on your console but impossible to look up from other sources (like trueachievements etc). The online allows everything to synch up. If you use TrueTrophies or any of the other 'signatures' that show your trophies then you need to be online to keep them up to date and synched. Whilst you can see what achievements have been unlocked offline on Xbox, unless you do go online, your score and achievements on websites (like xbox.com) are not updated or accurate.
I must admit I don't know if I ever checked my Playstation Trophies whilst offline on console. PS3 had free online service and I bought PS+ at the same time as I bought my PS4 - I am sure I did when I moved house and was waiting for internet access to be installed and therefore ended up playing games offline for a while. I have always had 'Gold' with my Xbox too. I don't know if PS4 is different but I still thought you could check as it would skip the 'synch'

PS3 you can check if you're offline. Other than that, PS4 is a system that always has to be online...even to get game license verification for your downloads. I live in the middle of nowhere, and every now and then my internet gets slow, which makes it to where the lock button doesn't come off of my downloads. It makes me ponder on buying any 'download-only' games too, just for the fact that when the system becomes 20 years old...you won't be able to play them due to the servers being shut down, which makes it to where you have a bunch of downloads...that are now useless. I do like how on the PS3, if the servers go down, you can still play your downloads...just won't be able to re-download if you erased them. I really hope the future of gaming is not 'online all the time or no dice', or I'm going to be finding myself stepping away from it. I hope the Wii U won't be like this when the servers go down on there, since all they have is download only games.

@JLpick unfortunately the money is in always on line. Dlc, micro transactions, maps that kind of thing. It costs less for the game companies and almost every AAA game is launching with these components. I'm not happy with it either, but you and I are in the minority.

As you may have noticed, quite a few games have been released that have no 'online' component - games like The Order, Infamous, Wolfenstein to name a few. Not every game has DLC, Expansions or Micro-Transactions either. I can't say that I am 'disappointed' with these being offered in some games. It really depends on the game and content being offered.

Take a game like CoD which ships with a Campaign, Co-op mode and usually around 14 MP Maps. DLC has been in this game since (at least) CoD4 and each pack offers at least 4 Maps - More lately it has offered a co-op map and weapon too. but the point is the Game that ships has not been 'light' on content and the DLC has in my opinion improved the long term playability of the game.

I can't say that I am happy with all DLC being offered and some games do seem to be making up for the lack of content with its DLC - content that could and probably should have been in the game at release.

I don't necessarily have an issue with Day 1 DLC either as often a game can be basically finished months before it goes Gold - in the testing and polishing stage - which allows the majority of the development team time to work on DLC. It really depends though on the 'content' of the disc game.

Its definitely not black and white though and each game/DLC needs to be looked at individually. I have no issue with some games offering online and/or DLC. If done right it can enhance the overall package and experience. In some games the online aspect is more important. Battlefield is an example of this as I expect the majority buy it exclusively for online MP. Online can be beneficial in other ways - not just MP but to create a more dynamic world rather than a 'static' and predictable one. In MMO's you never know who you could meet. In the case of something like Destiny, I am sure the online aspect is why we have different daily bounties, missions, Xur, events etc.

Like I said its not Black and White - there are positive and negative examples. I must admit as much as I loved Goldeneye's MP, I prefer online as I don't have to look at a small portion of the screen, know my enemies can not screen watch to know my position, and have the opportunity to play with more people as well as when I want - not have to rely on others in the same room at the same time.

@BAMozzy sorry Bam I don't mind online, its good, but a lot of games which dont need online bits have them anyway. But I agree with most things you wrote. As for trophies they should be viewable offline.

I agree. What has disappointed me is the way some games have switched focus or added in an MP aspect that really isn't needed or in some cases even done that well. I Was very disappointed with both Bioshock 2 and Dead Space 2, as they both shoe horned in a very poor MP and it seemed by comparison to the originals, at the expense of the Single Player campaign. Both were shorter and it seemed that some of the time and resources were split - taking from the SP to make an MP. Other franchises that may have had an MP but not necessarily its primary focus have switched - it seems. Halo for example was primarily a campaign focussed game due to the small number of people who had gold. Halo 4's campaign was a lot shorter by comparison and much more emphasis on the MP. For me this was disappointing as the reason I got into Halo was the campaign itself. I have no issue with games adding MP as such but I do have issue if it seems to impact on the SP component - its generally the reason these games became popular in the first place. For example people bought Dead Space, Bioshock etc and rated it as high as they did because of that SP and expected the sequel to at least match if not surpass the original.

I really don't understand though why Trophies cannot be viewed whilst offline on the console. I can understand why they cannot be viewed (at least accurately) from alternative sources/websites etc as they are not able to synch up. The only explanation I can think is that they are stored on a server somewhere but that would make it difficult to unlock them offline too