Topic: PlayStation 5 --OT--

@BAMozzy Exactly. I can't wait for the DF comparison videos, so everyone can finally shut up lol. Just pick whatever console you like, or buy both, or don't buy them at all.

@Octane The only reason I like DF comparisons is that it can sometimes help to determine which console version I may buy and/or the performance metrics I can expect, how close a $500 (or less) device has to 'compromise' to run as it does.

Some seem to use it as evidence they made the 'right' choice or that others made the 'wrong' choice, use it as 'ammo' to fling at other gamers who chose the other platform. Even if the games are virtually identical and gamers could unite over their shared enjoyment of the game, any small difference is used to belittle the experience others must have...

If people have NO intention of buying the other, then what difference does it make what the other console offers, what metrics the other manages to deliver, what 'games' it has/hasn't got etc. Even if one has more 'exclusives' releasing/released, doesn't mean that someone would want and/or buy 'more' exclusives - they may prefer more of the games on the platform that releases fewer. Personal preferences will make more of a difference in some areas.

If you intend to buy just 1, focus on what that console offers for you, enjoy the experience and maybe even try and be positive about the games you can 'share' experiences with a wider range of gamers. Does it matter if your preferred brand is slightly 'better' visually if you can ALL enjoy the same experience, share positive stories, help and tips? Surely its better if gamers unite instead of be divided over trivial differences and if you feel you are 'missing out' by things the other offers, buy that or use that to demand better from your own preferred brand. Sony and MS will push each other to offer gamers a better experience in the long run. I am getting really fed up with both groups of Fanboys trying to belittle the work of the other when both have strengths and weaknesses - some of which will be negated over time with updates, improvements etc.

The problem with Digital Foundry is that it makes a whole lot of people think they’re suddenly experts and they use out-of-context quotes to fuel their own petty wars, on both sides. It’s no different from the ridiculous bit wars back in the 90s.

@BAMozzy Yeah, I absolutely agree. The worst is that the differences between the consoles get smaller each generation with diminishing returns. Unless you pause the screens and zoom in, you're going to have trouble to differentiate between the two. Who cares at this point, I would've bought a big PC rig if I wanted to argue about the best performance

@Octane But can PC do this??!?! *spins on one leg at the speed of PS5’s incredibly fast SSD while balancing £450 on my nose

@nessisonett To their credit, DF and DF Retro go to great lengths when it comes to analyzing stuff like game performance metrics or even hardware internals, and they do a lot to make sure their comparisons are authentic as possible, like when they compared DOOM on Switch to a similarly specced PC running the game just for basic performance comparison and discrepancies

There's still a few things that fly over my head but it's very easy to digest stuff. It's not the kind of thing that will suddenly make me feel like Jimmy Neutron Boy Genius or anything though, and it's not the kind of thing where you can just start throwing around tech buzzwords and cobble them together in a way that makes sense

@BAMozzy you guys are missing the point.
I'm not talking about console warriors that are everywhere even on PushSquare and would not admit it
The stupid rumours are reported by the press. Again people get manipulated into fighting one another and calling names.
Trying to prove your right and the other wrong in keyboard war is another thing and futile. Then call the other 'fanboy'. Its childish.
Main responsible for fake rumour is clickbait titles.

@JJ2 You can’t call the fanboy rubbish futile when you literally comment saying that Digital Foundry are Xbox shills. You’re the one spreading nonsense, not Push Square.

@nessisonett
I see you keep on trying this keyboard war nonsense, and you want to get your snipes on me.
I'm not your 'enemy' because I dont fancy xbox.
If you dont like me, there is an ignore button.

@JJ2 ...I’m not trying ‘keyboard war’ nonsense, I’m pointing out glaring inconsistencies and double standards in your arguments. There’s a difference between not fancying Xbox and blatantly stirring up trouble by calling DF shills. If that isn’t ‘FUD’ I don’t know what is.

@nessisonett
Yes your focused on me for a while for some reason. I didnt call DF I called Alex specifically and that's easy to check my comments. You r often putting words in my mouth. I dont know why you feel the need to defend that guy. It's my opinion.
Now stop you keyboard war non sense.

@JJ2 It really is a great selection of games. I wonder how DLC is working though, FFXV is a much better game with the add-ons and Monster Hunter World: Iceborne is also fantastic.

Persona 5 being there is honestly incredible considering how much smaller the series was in popularity when I was getting into it about 10 years ago

Understandable why it isn't Royal given how recent that iteration of the game is, but if anyone missed out on the PS4 generation this would be a solid as hell way to get into those particular highlights in addition to native backwards compatibility

@TheFrenchiestFry Yeah, it’s pretty crazy how one title can suddenly make a whole series take off. Same thing happened with Yakuza 0, which is a game I would have expected to be on that list until the massive push they’ve had recently on Xbox.

@nessisonett That's even crazier considering Yakuza's been tied to PlayStation since the very beginning, but it starts to make sense when you consider Microsoft and SEGA have been buddy buddy for years even dating back to the first Xbox with that whole exclusive games deal they made regarding Shenmue, Panzeer Dragoon Orta and JSR Future

That list is brilliant especially as 7 of them games are on my backlog no need to go and pay for the games in full

'We started preparing for the adoption of liquid metal TIM about two years ago when the PS5 hardware configuration and shape were roughly decided. In addition to design, we have begun various studies toward the adoption of TIM for liquid metals, from the manufacturing process to procurement.'

So that debunking the idiotic rumours that PS5 was planned for 2019 and then pushed back and somehow 'overclocked' when they 'found out' about the xbox flops.
PS5 was specs were already set 2 years ago.

@JJ2 Playing devil’s advocate, it does say ‘roughly decided’ and not ‘set in place’ but yeah, that’s one of the sillier rumours I’ve heard. TFLOPS is one of those measurements that people use who really don’t know the slightest thing about them. They’re not an indication of much, they’re an end result due to the setup. Unless your system is solely doing calculations, there are a million other more important factors but people jumped on the TFLOPS.

Here it is. Alex is NOT INTERESTED but fortunately DF is full of other intelligent people.