Topic: Final fantasy discussion thread

I just whizzed through the demo for FFVII-R and I have to say, I'm impressed.

I've only played the old school games and have always been reticent about the combat in the newer games but it really is good fun and flipping between the two characters works really well. I don't think I ever used that many potions in the original game though.

I am horrified to find that I might have been saying "mako" wrong all this time though. I've always read it as "may-ko" so Barrett's pronunciation seemed really weird..

I think the dialogue and acting gets the level of hamminess just about right as it's a game that can't really take itself too seriously. It looks ruddy amazing though and I love the little touch of seeing the materia slot on the weapons.

The headache thing is an interesting plot device to tie into the whole Zack thing. Am I missing something with Cloud seeing the feather though when they were at the reactor?

@Thrillho yeah loads of people still say May-ko but the official pronunciation has always been ma-ko

and that feather was Sephiroth, the headache isn't Zack, it never was it was Sephiroth and the whole Sephiroth clone Reunion thing, Cloud doesn't actuality remember Zack at this point, it's not until he finds and remembers his true self that he remembers Zack because at this point he thinks Zack's life as a SOLDIER was his life due to the Jenova cells and their ability to absorb memories and copy others

@FullbringIchigo Cool. It's been a long time since my last play through of the game and I'd forgotten some of the nuances of that bit of the story.

@Thrillho i get that, completely understandable but i have replayed that game over 20 times so it's pretty much ingrained in my memory forever at this point

@Thrillho Don't worry about it too much. Took years before I figured out I was pronouncing Tifa's name wrong.

@Ralizah ...how is it actually pronounced? I’ve always said Tee-fa but that’s just cause I assumed it was the Japanese pronunciation hence i becomes ee.

@nessisonett That's the correct way. When I first played the game, I pronounced it "Tih-fa."

@nessisonett you're right it's "Tee-fa" and you got the reason right too which is why i find it odd people still think Tidus is pronounced Tie-dus when it's really Tee-dus, it's the same for both as they both start the same with a "Ti"

of course the english dub of Kingdom Hearts 2 doesn't help because they made that mistake too

@FullbringIchigo Honestly I say Tide-us because I thought it was a clever play on the word tide since like water and like waves and stuff. I was 8 😂😂

lol I also said "Tide-us." In fact, I still do.

Also, Aeris > Aerith

And Pluto is still a planet!

@nessisonett i get that i think that's why most do it but most people also don't know that the names come from the original draft of FFX and have nothing to do with the Tides or water, Tidus and Yuna actually represent the Sun and the Moon because originally the game was going to revolve around the stars and celestial bodies

@Ralizah i thought Pluto was a dog

(P.S i prefer Aerith if i'm honest, it's a closer connection to the anagram of Earth it's meant to be)

@Feena I see... that's cool. So far Zack's was only playable in Crisis Core, right?

@FullbringIchigo Random question, does any of the DLC for FFXV (the Royal DLC in particular I would imagine) do anything to help the mostly terrible side-quests of FFXV?

@Jaz007 the Royal Edition is basically just the original game with the season pass and Royal Pass, it adds nothing but the character episodes, a few items and the like BUT it does make one huge change to the last chapter, so much so in fact that it's nothing like it originally was

One thing from playing the demo is that I was somehow unaware of the summons that will be coming as DLC or pre-order/special edition bonuses (I’ve since noticed a recent article on this site about the issue).

Kind of sad they’re doing that as I always think DLC available from day one is the worst cash grab. At least these characters aren’t from the original game (as summons anyway).

so there is a little misconception about the development of the FFVII Remake, that is the version of the game we a re getting now is the same one that was shown back in 2015, well it isn't to cut a long story short Square Enix was working with a company called CyberConnect2 on the production but due to various circumstances including CC2 refusing to redo the designs of the characters to more closely match the more familiar Advent Children design so in 2017 the partnership broke down and Square had to start again from scratch and i for one am glad because the designs CC2 wanted to use just seemed off

for comparison CyberConnect2

Square Enix in house

the reason i say all this is because many people think the second part will take just as long but i don't think it will, the first part is done and thus many assets are already finished, the battle system, character models and animations and much of the music for examples

so what i'm saying is relax people i don't think you will be waiting too long for part 2

@FullbringIchigo Yeah some people have been saying like it's gonna be something 10 years before it is finished. I wish they would look into things a bit more before rushing to assumptions.

@JohnnyShoulder @FullbringIchigo I understand what happened clearly. However, SE has a huge habit of this, even FFXV’s dlc was affected by it even though it was just DLC for crying out loud. The base was even more down there. Whether it’s giving to redo stuff after separating with a studio, creative issues, or whatever, something always happens. SE has a cursed track record which suggests issues will happen again. There’s no way they make the rest of the FF7 Remakes without issues. I’ll have to see it to believe it.

@JohnnyShoulder Didn't SE say that they themselves weren't sure how many games (parts) it's gonna take for the series to complete?

Personally, I'll be okay if they release each part every one and a half or maybe two years I guess.

@FullbringIchigo Thing is that many people said that the 2015 footage looked awesome. Also, never heard anyone complained about Cloud's character design back then. But I do agree that SE's redesigns looks better. I think Cloud's face now is a bit more similar to the Cloud we saw in Advent Children. Also, it does help that visually it also looks even better now.