Topic: Final fantasy discussion thread

I just read this piece by Jason Schreier (from Kotaku UK) and I agree with his point that it's crazy how from the demo, what was quite a brief boss is now much more epic so hearing him say the second fight is just as involved is cool.

His point about the first part only being set in Midgar and saying this was 5-10% of the original game is interesting but feels a little disingenuous. I can only guess that the rest of the game is going to be made much more linear than the original to keep the game on track and it's the only way I can see it being broken into clean segments like they're planning.

@Thrillho What strikes me is that the Reactor No.5 raid is Chapter 7. That’s a whole lotta stuff added in between.

@Thrillho well in in the original it was only a small potion but then again you only did about 4 things, blow up a reactor, blow up another go rescue Tifa, go rescue Aerith, leave but this time they are adding a lot into it, more story, a bigger more explorable Midgar, more boss fights for example

people need to remember this isn't a beat for beat redo, it's a total remake, take everything you know about the original FFVII and throw it out the window, don't assume everything is going to happen in the same way as the original, this isn't FFVII it's a new game that just happens to have the same characters in it and follow a similar plot

@FullbringIchigo Err... you're missing out the rather memorable Honeybee Inn and crossdressing scene there!

Midgar definitely has the most potential for being expanded though as there's a whole city to work with. Most people remember that feeling of leaving Midgar and seeing this massive map but that sort of feeling would be harder to re-capture now as people are used to huge maps and worlds.

On a separate note, does the release of the game warrant a new thread?

The whole thing was very cinematic @Thrillho and it was much more involved then I was honestly expecting!

Well I doubt anyone here was gonna honestly tag me when it releases and try to spoil it for me @FullbringIchigo (And even if they did I'd just ignore it as there's no doubt gonna be spoilers in the thread six ways to sunday tagged or not 😂) but I appreciate the sentiment!

Dunno if this has been mentioned already and apologies if this already has... But the whole stance change thing Cloud has going on

Punisher mode Looks similar-ish to how Sephiroth holds his sword right? So... the Operator mode is based on... Uhh... Zack? The one who was friends with Cloud and was actually in soldier? I'm not just making connections where there are none right? 😂

@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy Wow, I didn’t even notice that Punisher and Operator were based on Cloud’s two influences. That’s a really cool detail.

If it is @nessisonett. I'm not the most knowledgable on FFVII as I've already made it abundantly clear 😂

I'm incredibly unfamilar with Zack and Crisis Core so it could just be nothing with Operator mode and was just a wild, if somewhat educated, guess but I've seen Sephiroth in fiction enough (The original, Advent Children, Kingdom Hearts, the oodles of artwork) that Cloud's Punisher stance just tweaked something in my mind and put that in mind

Could mean later down the line there might be a different action he gains or a different stance when he gets his memories back or whatever which would also be a nice little detail

Just completed the demo for FF7 Remake, and I'm starting to get why people are so excited for this.

The combat was tripping me up, and had to use all my potions in that boss fight. It'll take a bit longer for me to get used to the combat. Maybe it's just I've played to much Monster Hunter, as I kept bringing up the command menu whenever I wanted to dodge.

Anyway, demo was fun. Graphics and music were both great, and I'm eager to see how the story unfolds. Characters have a good personality and seem fun.

Edit: I also kept thinking that the lady with the flowers had huge elf-ears,but it's just her ribbon.

I GOT MY THEME CODE.

It's so pretty!

This is my new forever theme. That gorgeous version of Tifa's theme just makes it.

Totally worth the price of two Butterfingers.

@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy Well, that makes sense. FFVII was pretty old by the time you got around to it, right? I think the people who are gaga over it (like me) are people who played it when it was fresh, and especially if they were very young at the time (ditto).

This is a chance for someone who missed out to experience the masterpiece in a fresh, modern, exciting way (the same way so many of us experienced it in the late 90s).

@Ralizah It’s weird, being a millennium baby, I really shouldn’t have as strong feelings regarding FF7. I think the difference between PS1 and PS2 was small enough that by playing it on my PS2 when I was a kid, I probably played it at an age similar to those of you that owned it first time around. Backwards compatibility was great in that regard, I played just as many PS1 games as PS2 games so I have fond memories of both.

Recently coming off of Nier Automata I kept pressing the shoulder buttons and brought up the command menu too a number of times @crimsontadpoles so you aren't the only one! 😅

Yeah I played it 6-8 years ago @Ralizah. I honestly can't remember exactly when now but it's in the ball park. Only went through it the once too.

I'd actually probably appreciate the original version more if I played it again now knowing my views on it (and probably taking a bit more of a lesuirely pace with it too) and what to actually expect rather then just the... deified reputation it has/had that it could never live up to (and it was pretty heavily spoiled for me so I never got as properly invested as I could've either).

I'm kinda glad it's being remade though and not a 1 for 1 remake either so whilst I'll still know the end point, the journey'll be drastically different. Not to mention I have those lower expectations of mine in mind.

-EDIT- Nice theme too by the way!

I've given the demo another go too and honestly... I'm liking it even more. Must've took over a hundred screenshots now 😂

I really do like the fact that when choosing a command/magic in the FFVII Remake demo the whole thing goes slo-mo.

It's such a little thing but it really does make it much easier to navigate in the midst of things (unlike say Kingdom Hearts 1 or 2) and it even gives you a bit of a breather to think about your strategy going forward which helps with the much more involved combat.

I'm still gonna wait on it though for all those patches and what not it'll have/might need and try to find a nice spoiler free review when it does drop for some of the bigger reservations I have buuuuut...

... I may end up actually purchasing this sooner then I intended. Which really isn't something I thought I'd say as aside from the remasters of X, X-2 & XII I haven't touched a Square Enix game for this entire generation and honestly haven't wanted to.

@Feena No, I haven't played Crisis Core before. I did recalled seeing him in a flash back sequence in Advent Children, though.

@FullbringIchigo Wow, I seem to recalled only seeing positive reactions.haha

@Thrillho no i don't think it will need a new thread, this is after all the all encompassing FINAL FANTASY thread

and yes i did miss the Honybee out but that was also part of the mission to rescue Tifa

@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy yeah i noticed that too, it's a nice little touch i thought

@Arugula for $10 yeah it's worth it

@crimsontadpoles Same here, I lost count the amount of times I brought up the menu when I wanted to dodge! I think I had about 80 health left with Cloud after the boss fight.

That would be an incredibly mean thing to do if someone tagged you @Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy with any spoilers! I don't anyone from here would do
that intentionally however.

Nice theme @Ralizah! I'm well jel. What is a butterfinger by the way?

@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy I've mentioned this before, but I had a similar issue with old 3D Nintendo games like Ocarina of Time, Super Mario 64, etc. I'm sure they were amazing back in the day, but experiencing them for the first time years later, they just... don't measure up.

Although I'm glad my first experience with OoT (and first 3D Zelda game overall, lol) was the 3DS remake. A lot of those N64 games look pretty nightmarish now, and I say that as someone who looks back on OG FF7's lego people with fondness.

@nessisonett That's pretty cool. Personally, I think the sixth gen was my favorite, so it must have been neat being little and playing games from that era, along with the best PS1 games.

Going back to my collection of NES games from young childhood, I still like them, but man, are they rudimentary!

@JohnnyShoulder American candy bar. Hardened peanut butter that's layered with chocolate.

You get the theme along with DLC items if you buy Butterfingers (Crunch bars work as well, I think) and upload the receipt you get with them to a particular website in NA.

Anyway, the advertising crossover most closely associated with the Butterfinger before this was definitely the Simpsons advertising blitz in the 90s:

@Ralizah Oh ok, thanks. I thought as much. For some reason I thought that it might be how much it was on the PS store or something like that.

Not heard of anything like over here in regards to the remake.

@JohnnyShoulder Hope they figure something out for the folks across the pond. I've never been a fan of regional exclusivity.

@JohnnyShoulder i know we get a Sephiroth theme if we pre-order from Amazon, i'm not sure if that's also in America though perhaps @Ralizah can confirm if it is or isn't