Topic: Final fantasy discussion thread

so here is a quick question: Anyone Platinum FFVII Remake yet?

@FullbringIchigo Yeah I have.

@johncalmc and what was the trophy you had the hardest time with, for me i still don't have the enemy skill one, i know what enemy to learn the last skill off but no matter what they just wont learn the damn thing

i also have not done a Hard Mode run yet

@FullbringIchigo I can't really help with the Enemy Skill one - I actually got three of them naturally, just playing the game, and the last one I got when doing the hard challenges thing.

The hardest trophy is the one for fighting the superboss. Won't go into too many details in case anyone deems it spoilery, but there's five hard mode battles, one after another, and it's the hardest fight in the game.

Otherwise, most of it isn't hard - it's just time consuming. Having to do a hard mode playthrough is quite irritating, but it's not so bad. Just equip Prayer onto two characters and try not to use any MP en route to the boss. Also you can do the chapters in any order so just leave the toughest ones until last if you like - 17 is by far the hardest.

Also, you can make the hard mode playthrough miles easier if you do the superboss early as it drops an item that will help greatly. Make sure to level up the materia you'll need - HP Plus (6 at least), MP Plus (4 maybe), Prayer (2), Barrier (3 would be good), and Elemental (2) - as soon as you can. Those will allow you to beat the superboss earlier.

@johncalmc yeah some can be a little annoying such as the 300% stagger one (i found the best way to get that is against Fat Chocobo using Tifa and spamming her Triangle attack)

@FullbringIchigo Oh whoops, I just beat Fat Chocobo with only Cloud. Ugh, guess I’ll do it again when I get Tifa back.

@nessisonett i just found that the easiest way to do it, i'm sure there are other ways

@FullbringIchigo I am only missing the dress related one and the hard playthrough - I just started and I am enjoying it a lot, really challenging and well thought out as a NG+ challenge - gives the game some replay value.

For the enemy skill you are missing the only thing that comes to my mind is that you have to equip the materia on the active character. I got it the second time that particular monster used it in me.

@Feena yeah ni made sure i was using the character it was equipped to, it just doesn't seem to want to learn it, maybe my luck level is too low?

@Feena Well you know how that bit starts with Aeris hiding behind a wall on the right of the screen, then she peeks out looking at Cloud? Then they talk, then she walks off while he stands and watches, with a green light in the distance?

If not, here's that bit:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay7xpEzag1o?t=300

Well this is their last meeting in the original:

@Matroska yeah there were quite a few homages to the original game in segments such as the stance and camera when Sephiroth and Cloud had their face down at the end

there were quite a few nods to Advent Children too such as Cloud calling Jenova Mother and they even used a few clips from the film in the end segment too such as Cloud lunging and Sephiroth and you can tell because for a split second you can see the Advent Children Buster Sword model in the shot

Also I tried Chapter 3 on Hard yesterday. I got destroyed by the bandits that are looking for Barret at the end of the chapter. Though to be fair, I'm only level 44 and wasn't prepared materia-wise. Like, I had no healing at all. That said, I'm absolutely dreading certain fights. The lab monster from the original game in the Shinra Building was an absolute cluster**** for me on Normal, never really knew what was going on with the little ones exploding. And the final boss was an exercise in frustration. He can do his "You're all now on 1HP" even while he's being hit - even in the middle of your limit break. And it's a cutscene move so once it starts, that's it. I saw a post on another forum where a guy described it as "genuinely the most frustrated I've ever been in any game in my life".

@FullbringIchigo Are you talking about Apoptosis with that enemy skill post? That's confusingly not the skill you're looking for, it's the Self Destruct skill once you learn it. If you already have Self Destruct, you have Apoptosis.

@Matroska no it's actually Spirit Siphon, for some reason they just wont learn it, i have the one you mentioned

so Square are releasing a book called FINAL FANTASY VII Remake World Preview in September and it's going to be full of character bios, info, story background etc, etc so it's kind of like the old Ultimania's

so i pre-ordered it already

anyway i love these kind of things, full breakdowns of characters and events, weapons and item descriptions, Materia information, concept art and the like so of course i was gonna get it (i also have the FFXV one Dawn of the Future on pre-order too)

anyone else gonna pick it up?

Not sure if I'm dreading Hard Mode or the pull-ups more. I've tried about 10 times now and haven't even got half what the other guy gets. I even asked my friend to do shareplay with me, he's one of those people that's annoyingly good at games, and he couldn't do it.

@FullbringIchigo Just pre-ordered it on Amazon. I was thinking about your enemy skill problem, I wonder if blocking stops the skill affecting you and thus learning it? Or having a defensive buff like Manawall?

Wow so may throwbacks, thanks for the link!

I must say I found the last boss relatively tame compared to other stuff in the game, but that is probably because he was designed around a mechanic that I was already abusing by that time XD I am dreading some of the fights in hard too, even the first boss wasn't that easy.

@FullbringIchigo I want Dawn of the Future badly ;_;
Keep trying for the skill, must be some RNG thing

@Matroska it took me 45 minutes to get that trophy, it's all about keeping your rhythm but i have found that if you can get 45 or more then you should win and saying out the button pattern helps too

as for the skill blocking could be causing it but like i said i'm not sure but i'm sure i'll get it at some point

@Feena then you should buy it, you have until June to make up your mind anyway that's plenty of time, it's on Amazon for pre-order if you decide to get it

@Feena Well for me I had him do his 1HP move twice while he was on the receiving end of a limit break, which was unbelievably annoying. Also Aeris was my healer and had all the good materia for that but didn't join me in that battle. I did it on my 2nd attempt after making Barret the healer but the boss still kept suddenly doing the 1HP move in the middle of limit breaks. 🤬

Weird to think that I platinumed Bloodborne without much trouble but probably won't be able to with FFVII.