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Sanquine

I'm writing this because i just heard on Silliconera that Conception 2 for vita isn't going to be localised because well guess what... Sexual content... Are we Europeans/ Americans that narrow minded? I don't mind some boob or sexual refference... It's normal to shoot 2000 people to their dead with a shooter but sexuality is something bad?

What is your opinion about this subject?

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neumaus

Oh God, not this subject. It's been beaten to death.
In the end, it becomes nothing but a hate rant on Westerners/religion.

Sorry, but if you want to play these games, just learn the language. It's not impossible, and you'll get there even if you spend just an hour a day.

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MadchesterManc

It amuses me. Its perfectly fine to massacre civilians in an airport with a HMG but the slightest showing of some shimapan gets people in an uproar :/ If its due to sexual content that Conception 2 isn't to be localised then thats hilarious when we have games like Ride to Hell where you have sex with women to boost your condition, about 10-20 seconds after they've almost been raped by another guy (cuz women do that) Check out Angry Joe's Review if you dont believe me (The worst game ever?) There'll no doubt be people on the other side of the fence though but you do make a valid point

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Sanquine
neumaus

Oh God, not this subject. It's been beaten to death.
In the end, it becomes nothing but a hate rant on Westerners/religion.

Sorry, but if you want to play these games, just learn the language. It's not impossible, and you'll get there even if you spend just an hour a day.

I'm learning Kanji for the information. Has this to do with religion because i'm a christian? xD I just want opinions

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Sanquine
MadchesterManc

It amuses me. Its perfectly fine to massacre civilians in an airport with a HMG but the slightest showing of some shimapan gets people in an uproar :/ If its due to sexual content that Conception 2 isn't to be localised then thats hilarious when we have games like Ride to Hell where you have sex with women to boost your condition, about 10-20 seconds after they've almost been raped by another guy (cuz women do that) Check out Angry Joe's Review if you dont believe me (The worst game ever?) There'll no doubt be people on the other side of the fence though but you do make a valid point

Oke, off subject i laughed my jaw of because of this review

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neumaus

You're Christian and I'm Muslim, but I've seen this topic being discussed several times already, and each time it ends up in the same place; basically, a hate rant on Westerners for being "prudes," and they're "prudes" because they're religious. Never mind the fact that the markets are drastically different. Western stuff doesn't sell too well in Japan and Japanese stuff, while selling better in the West, is still niche. Therefore, from a business perspective, it doesn't make much sense to localize a lot of titles. The costly/time-consuming solution? Learn the language, and import. It sucks, sure, but it's the only thing that can be done. And by the way, we (Westerners) miss out on a lot of incredible games, not just the titles with sexual content! How about Fantasy Life Link for the 3DS? We especially miss out on 3DS titles, and niche PS3/PSP stuff.

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Sanquine
neumaus

You're Christian and I'm Muslim, but I've seen this topic being discussed several times already, and each time it ends up in the same place; basically, a hate rant on Westerners for being "prudes," and they're "prudes" because they're religious. Never mind the fact that the markets are drastically different. Western stuff doesn't sell too well in Japan and Japanese stuff, while selling better in the West, is still niche. Therefore, from a business perspective, it doesn't make much sense to localize a lot of titles. The costly/time-consuming solution? Learn the language, and import. It sucks, sure, but it's the only thing that can be done. And by the way, we (Westerners) miss out on a lot of incredible games, not just the titles with sexual content! How about Fantasy Life Link for the 3DS? We especially miss out on 3DS titles, and niche PS3/PSP stuff.

FF tactics... I know from a business perspective it's does not make sense.. Maybe i hate the fact my favorite JRPG games aren't coming to the west because it's niche.. I hate it than the mainstream loves call of duty and not games like Ni No kuni ( It's localised but 80% of the sales are in japan...)

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neumaus

Well, Japanese stuff is getting a lot more popular; I never thought I'd see the day when there's a Japanese bookstore in Dubai! I know how you feel on missing out, but use that frustration as another motivation to work harder.
By the way, business is not the only issue, I forgot to mention laws and culture. Some Japanese games sexualize girls that look 7, and that doesn't sit very well in the West. Mugen Souls had one scene removed, because had they kept it the rating would've been Mature, iirc. People threw a shit fit like they're f**king entitled or something. They wanted it "un-censored". Instead of whinning, they should've just studied the language. Sales of that game, btw, where not very good from what I know.

It's a fact that the West are not used to little kids being sexualized, and they shouldn't be. It's wrong. I don't care if it's fiction, and just because it's culture doesn't make it okay.
Did you know, in Atelier Rorona, they changed her age to 17, when in the original game she was 14?
http://nisamerica.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=2428

I really don't want to turn this into an argument over sexulization of kids in games, but I just wanted to point that out. (And about the laws, I heard it's not illegal to posess child porn in Japan. I'm not talking bad about the country, I'm just stating differences.)

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Sanquine
neumaus

Well, Japanese stuff is getting a lot more popular; I never thought I'd see the day when there's a Japanese bookstore in Dubai! I know how you feel on missing out, but use that frustration as another motivation to work harder.
By the way, business is not the only issue, I forgot to mention laws and culture. Some Japanese games sexualize girls that look 7, and that doesn't sit very well in the West. Mugen Souls had one scene removed, because had they kept it the rating would've been Mature, iirc. People threw a shit fit like they're f**king entitled or something. They wanted it "un-censored". Instead of whinning, they should've just studied the language. Sales of that game, btw, where not very good from what I know.

It's a fact that the West are not used to little kids being sexualized, and they shouldn't be. It's wrong. I don't care if it's fiction, and just because it's culture doesn't make it okay.
Did you know, in Atelier Rorona, they changed her age to 17, when in the original game she was 14?
http://nisamerica.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=2428

I really don't want to turn this into an argument over sexulization of kids in games, but I just wanted to point that out. (And about the laws, I heard it's not illegal to posess child porn in Japan. I'm not talking bad about the country, I'm just stating differences.)

I didn't know that. Haven't seen anything till date that bothers me.. Now that you mention it i saw some scenes in anime with really flat chested girls... Hmm good point it's not normal. I will use my motivation to learn Kanji much faster. And i really did not know about the child porn...

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MadchesterManc

The lolicon fandom being touched on here is an amusing subject. I looked into it when researching a blog post and found it to be very suprising. Did you know since the inception of lolicon that perveted acts on youngsters in Japan has gradually decreased? People who read/watch lolicon find it hard to relay that 'desire' onto actual people due to them finding em repulsive due to the lolicon being mostly moe & obviously real people aren't moe styled. Its great psychological conditioning when you think about it. Meanwhile, in the west perveted acts are on the increase! So go figure lol Im not condoning lolicon before anyone starts jumping in n putting a noose around my kneck to have me swinging from the gallows. Im just pointing out that the west is just as, if not more, perveted even with Japan having the likes of Lolicon.

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Sanquine
MadchesterManc

The lolicon fandom being touched on here is an amusing subject. I looked into it when researching a blog post and found it to be very suprising. Did you know since the inception of lolicon that perveted acts on youngsters in Japan has gradually decreased? People who read/watch lolicon find it hard to relay that 'desire' onto actual people due to them finding em repulsive due to the lolicon being mostly moe & obviously real people aren't moe styled. Its great psychological conditioning when you think about it. Meanwhile, in the west perveted acts are on the increase! So go figure lol Im not condoning lolicon before anyone starts jumping in n putting a noose around my kneck to have me swinging from the gallows. Im just pointing out that the west is just as, if not more, perveted even with Japan having the likes of Lolicon.

Lollicon? Is that the big eyes stuff? OMG... Just searched it:P Thats about kids..


But what is perverted? I like girls with big knockers Am i perverted now?

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neumaus

But I read Japan has a higher rate of rape/sexual crimes than the US o_O While the US has a higher rate of murder/robbery/etc.

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MadchesterManc

@Sanquine Yeah...don't search Lolicon lol I was just using it to show that poeple who use it as a beating stick on Japanese culture are a little off when perveted attacks on young people are on the increase in the west while on the decrease in Japan and has been since the late 70's. The big eyes stuff is Moe, that isn't related to lolicon but it can be used by it. Try not to be so curious next time lol

No your not perveted. But the dude-bro gamers will have you believe you are so dont say that stuff around them! lol You read my article on the blog entitled Who's the perveted one? Its a good read quite a popular one too

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Sanquine
MadchesterManc

@Sanquine Yeah...don't search Lolicon lol I was just using it to show that poeple who use it as a beating stick on Japanese culture are a little off when perveted attacks on young people are on the increase in the west while on the decrease in Japan and has been since the late 70's. The big eyes stuff is Moe, that isn't related to lolicon but it can be used by it. Try not to be so curious next time lol

No your not perveted. But the dude-bro gamers will have you believe you are so dont say that stuff around them! lol You read my article on the blog entitled Who's the perveted one? Its a good read quite a popular one too

Good article, you have some great points there. I will never ever search lolicon ever again.. That people dig that is beyond my mind.

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neumaus

It's a RPG where you have to win favor with the girls and they have your kids and those kids join you in battle(?). That's from what I know~
It looks pretty on the Vita.

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neumaus

And I don't believe the sexual content is even bad or explicit, I just think it's too niche for a Western release.

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neumaus

Yeah, I love that about Sony! But I wish we could have multiple accounts on the same Vita. I don't want to pay for two separate PS+ accounts :/
(lol, this thread's name should be changed into "the anything goes discussion," xD)

Only I know your pain.
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neumaus

Oh, wait, that didn't make sense >_> I talked about two different things.
I meant I'd like for the Vita to be like the PS3 (multiple accounts, no need to activate/deactivate), and I wish you could change countries on the same account.
Btw, the edit/quote/report button doesn't show when I'm using my phone, so that's why I double-post. Sorry~

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