Topic: The Movie Thread

@Ralizah yes i saw that

i may have fanboyed a little

Hopefully this one comes and goes with a minimum of drummed-up drama.

Urgh...
The game was as close to a decent sequel as we'll get.

Also. I think that's the wrong car.

Should be ECTO-1 A

@KALofKRYPTON i think it's just for advertising to let us know THIS is the original Ghostbusters because it certainly isn't the reboot Ecto-1, the back end is all wrong for that see

Original

Reboot

@FullbringIchigo I know it's the original model of car, I don't think anyone who had read Reitman's recent musings would expect any different.

But the teaser shows a run down/mothballed Ecto-1, with the Ecto-1 plate and first film logo - both of which were changed for Ghostbusters 2. It's just annoying. Sony clearly don't want to let the cash cow die and felt the sting of Feig's hubris with the shambolic reboot - this just feels like cynical baiting from some marketing person.

@KALofKRYPTON that's because it is "look it's the original we swear this time" but you have to admit it worked

@FullbringIchigo I thought it fake at first. I'd read the Reitman thing a few hours before I saw it, and the wrong car stuff made me thing it wasn't legit.

It's a bit daft really considering production hasn't even started. Reminds me of Superman and Robocop posters in cinemas years ago for films that never ended up being made.

@KALofKRYPTON i don't think you have to worry this time, Sony have a lot of lost ground to get back after that reboot, it looked bad, the characters were stereotypical and one dimensional and it just wasn't funny

@FullbringIchigo It is genuinely one of the worst films I never paid to see! Feig is an awful film maker though, it was never going to be a good film - let alone a good Ghostbusters film.

@KALofKRYPTON i don't think i laughed once during that film, of course humour is subjective so it would have appealed to some and of course there are those who liked it JUST because it had a female cast, which is actually as bad as those who hated it for the same reason, if your only draw is because the characters are the same gender as you then that's just as sexist as those who hate it because they wasn't their gender because what your saying that your gender is the only one that matters, same as if you complain that a character isn't the same race or sexuality as your are, regardless of what yours is your just saying "I'm this and that's all that matters and everyone should be like me"

@FullbringIchigo Me neither, that said - McCarthy is about as funny as a crumbling teeth dream most of the time. She occasionally has the benefit of a good script, but Feig's obsession with filming hours upon hours of ad-libs trying to find humour really shows in Ghostbusters. It's unfortunate that it just happened to be a reboot of genuinely sharp, witty and clever film.

@KALofKRYPTON a better director at the helm and that could have been a decent film

@FullbringIchigo Possibly.
From what I recall, the script was stronger as originally written - but not by much. Probably not enough to save it from at best - mediocrity.

@Frigate You really ought to read the GN at some point. It blows the film out of the water, imo, and is one of the better comic series from the 1980s.

@Ralizah I agree the graphic novel of Watchmen is something special. It's like the holy grail of comic books.

@Frigate There's a whole lot the film does very right. Perfect fodder for Snyder's style.
Try out the Transmetropolitan series

@Ralizah @JohnnyShoulder
It's not a popular opinion, but I actually prefer the film these days.

@KALofKRYPTON The ending of the Watchmen film is far better than the book & actually makes sense. David Hayter did a great job with the script

@KALofKRYPTON The only thing I'll grant is that the way the film ends is a lot easier to take seriously in a modern context. Watchmen was a product of and commentary on the 1980s and the paranoia engendered by the Cold War, so it needed to be updated a bit for an adaptation.

With that said, there's a lot of complexity and subtext that's left out of the film version. I also detest the juvenile fixation on ultraviolence, which wasn't really a feature of the original story (the ridiculous blood spurts and bone snapping everywhere goes against the deconstructive approach to violence in the GN). And, most importantly, Rorschach's profoundly atheistic and existentialistic understanding of life was almost removed entirely from the film, and that philosophical baggage is incredibly important to understanding him as a character.

Also, and I can't really call this a flaw, but I hated it: the almost complete lack of any original music. Nearly all the music in the film is licensed, from what I remember. But an original score is a big part of a film's identity, so it ended up hurting the film as an experience for me.

It's not a terrible adaptation, though. Way more faithful to the comic than something like V For Vendetta, which barely even resembled the source material.

@Ralizah We've been here before...

@KALofKRYPTON Yeah, I thought about that after I posted. Unfortunately, my memory is terrible, so this same scenario probably plays out anytime someone mentions that they prefer the film version of Watchmen.

New take, then! The motion comic is the definitive Watchmen movie. It works surprisingly well.