Topic: The Movie Thread

@RogerRoger Solo is a good addition to the Star Wars films. Missed it at the cinema, so I bought the blu-ray upon it’s release: pleasantly surprised and thoroughly enjoyable.
Following the same situation, the next blu-ray I’ll be purchasing is Suspiria (2018), which I believe is out the end of this month.

@JohnnyShoulder My son and I watched it at the cinema. We loved every minute, and I especially liked the way Batman would demonstrate his stubbornness in allowing himself to share his ‘duty’ in an almost childlike petulance 🤣

Apparently Henry Cavill is in fact still Superman and apparently contracted for 4 more appearances.
Possibly:
-Shazam cameo(though that could fall under his previous contract).
-Supergirl cameo/larger supporting part
-Man of Steel 2
-Justice League 2

Affleck isn't officially out of contract as Batman either.

While I quite like this particular rumer, given how soundly WB butchered Justice League and treated Snyder, I'm not entirely sure I want to see what they produce next for Batman and Superman.

@RogerRoger
I doubt it would be called MoS2. It should just be called Superman, the film that should've come before BvS!

I liked Snyder's direction with the characters for the most part, not sure how well another director would translate - certainly not with the reactionary mandate that Whedon went in with anyway.

I like the idea that the films needn't tie together (as WB now suggests), but it once again seems incredibly reactionary; they jumped the gun on creating a shared universe then sack it off when they ruin it themselves 🙄

I like the Dick Grayson idea - could be like the Batman & Robin run with him and Damian from a few years back. That was pretty good.
Bruce needn't retire at the end as such, but we could flash forward to his final outing in the Beyond suit and introduce Terry. A Batman Beyond film would be hot as balls!

@RogerRoger
I do quite like BvS for many reasons - but I'd rather the WB 'Batman makes money' trumpet hadn't sounded so quickly. The BvS narrative suffers for Bruce's motivations and the ease of Luthor's manipulation - no matter how damaged this Batman is, he shouldn't be pawn. The set up for the dark future (Justice League part 2) would have made better sense.

Man of Steel needed a sequel if for no other reason than to justify the portrayed mourning of Superman's sacrifice in BvS and JL.

A Man of Steel sequel could have better handled the socio-philosophical reactions to Superman in the first part and develop a lighter/hero persona for the character as he gains wider public acceptance. A plot involving Luthor and Metallo would have been perfect as a bridge to dial back the 'alien invasion' xenophobia and shine a light on Superman.

I think Johns is still in charge of the DC output, though I could be wrong. They've hit on the 'light & funny makes money' idea, so that's they way they'll try and go (until it fails) and try to ignore everything that wasn't that unless it's a specific money-spinner (Harley Quinn). Cynical I know, but likely.

Batman Beyond has nearly happened a couple of times I think. With the wider successes of the more sci-fi bent of the Marvel stuff - and depending on Wb actually maintaining what's gone before; I really think it could do well - especially with Affleck as grizzled old Beyond Bruce Wayne... Maybe Logan Lerman as Terry McGuinness.

@RogerRoger Well, WB finally dropped the Bat-Hammer - kind of... nothing that wan't expected.

Also, I thought James Gunn's Suicide Squad film was a sequel - it's actually a 'reboot', of a 3 year old film.... and there in a nutshell is everything that's wrong with WB's DC output.

@Frigate Great film, great cast too. Lots of time for Sigourney Weaver and Holly Hunter.

Watched 'A Quiet Place' yesterday. I thought it was a good film, very tense in places. The whole situation seemed a bit far-fetched to me though. My main question is what do people do about breaking wind? I'm talking about one of those massive ones that catches you unawares at 5am when you're in that no-man's land between awake and asleep. Have people just figured out some way of holding in their farts?

It's good when a film makes you ponder the big questions in life.

@Gremio108 It’s Darwin’s survival of the fittest, man. Those of us who don’t break wind are the superior of the species and the flatulent simpletons are weeded out first.

@Gremio108 “at least he died doing what he loved”

@Th3solution But what about Darwin’s lesser known, but equally valid theory: survival of the fartiest?
On topic: A Quiet Place was a great movie.

@RogerRoger

@Gremio108 I've been trying to pitch soundproof underpants for years, but nobody wants to listen.

Surely that would be their selling point?

@RogerRoger That idea just sounds like a lot of hot air

@RogerRoger lets be honest we all know someone who would need them

Poor old Liam Neeson...

Hope this doesn't backfire on him too badly.

@Frigate Here, here! I agree. I don’t really keep up with news either, to the point that I have no idea what you guys are talking about. Apparently Neeson said something offensive. Maybe I’ll google it now that I’m curious, but on second thought maybe not. The court of public opinion is so ready to crucify someone for an unfortunate statement. I’m sure it sounds like he said something that would offend me, but I just have a problem with the witch-hunt mentality of the internet and the judgemental nature of people in general. I usually believe in giving people the benefit of the doubt, because I hope they will do the same for me when I do stupid stuff. Again, this opinion is without knowing anything about Mr. Qui-Gon Jinn’s recent flub, but I prefer living in my bubble of ignorance.

@Frigate It's a shame.

He offered an honest tale of some pretty ugly thoughts, feelings and actions driven by rage and impotence and his subsequent remorse and people want to string him up for it.

Sadly, refreshing honesty - rather than pretending that he was born an angel just doesn't cut it these days.

I grew up in a pretty poor area in the 80's and 90's in the UK that was mostly white. There were a few black families and even some of us mixed kids - and even then there was plenty of deep rooted racism (though by that time in the UK, most of it was overtly directed at Indians and Pakistanis); there were no burning crosses and the like, but push come to shove, in anger - race would became a target.

I honestly think that you'd be hard pressed to find someone white of Neeson's age who didn't have some similar sort of story where they could point to some unsavory racist thoughts. I know I can, and I'm nowhere near his age.

@Th3solution It shouldn't offend anyone in the context in which it was said. It was a terrible story about a horrible event to which he reacted badly.

His only real error was relating it truthfully.

@Th3solution Totally agree, I just don't get this witch hunt mentality of modern society. One of the reasons I don't go on social media any more.

@KALofKRYPTON @JohnnyShoulder The crazy thing is how society expects us to be perfect from the day we were born and never have made a mistake or said something in poor taste before. We all say and do things we regret. And like you say, (and like I’ve read Sammy say in reference to other gaming issues also that the internet has over-reacted to) — context is everything.
For instance, there’s the James Gunn issue where he tweeted out some offensive jokes like 10 ago that someone just recently brought up and then he ended up being fired from the Guardians of the Galaxy job for it. I mean, sure — what he tweeted was awful, but I’d surely cringe to see some of the idiotic things I said 10 years ago. I guess it’s all about whether you believe a person can change or correct life errors or not. Personally, I believe people are flawed, all of us, and I believe we can change and improve and shed our former character flaws and become new and better people. Maybe I’m naive, but I just think we can be too quick to judge sometimes. And it sounds like the Liam Neeson thing is much more innocent, where at least Gunn was saying things he intended to be disturbing and offensive for the purpose of shock-value, but Neeson was just taken out of context or whatever. But this issue of dissecting a person based on what the prevailing public opinion is of a hot topic, ignoring the person’s actual original intent of what they say — well, it’s just so frustrating to me.

Now, I would never condone insensitivity, but I fear where this is all going. We live in a world where every thing you say, even off the internet, has potential to be recorded and brought up later to be used against you and spun in a way that you may not have any control over. Not to mention societal norms and language change. What is appropriate to say even 10 years ago may not be appropriate now, but should we hold a guy to be living a 2019 standard in 2009, or heck in 1980? That’s not very fair. Now if a person is still making the same mistakes in 2019 that he was making in 2009, that’s a little bit different.

So like you say, it’s a point which discourages any participation in social media and why I like to be a hermit and just stay away from people in general.

I can't imagine how thick the bubble around Liam Neeson's life must be for him not to immediately realize that saying the things he said, regardless of intent, would quickly lead to the media and outrage mobs trying to destroy his career.

He's old, white, heterosexual, and male, so he was never going to be given the benefit of the doubt, and I'm shocked, in this day and age of constant manufactured outrage, that he didn't realize this.

If you're anyone with any kind of power or place in American society: don't share more about yourself than is absolutely necessary (because there are thousands of people who will gleefully use that information to destroy you, if possible, and hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions, of others who will go along with this treatment because they're terrified of being targeted next), don't touch anyone who you're not immediately related to (Vic Mignogna is currently learning this lesson the hard way), and don't use social media for anything other than making announcements related to your career (Roseanne and James Gunn already learned this lesson).