Topic: The Movie Thread

@WanderingBullet I have it on good authority that Goose gets notions and moves to take over Wakanda and destroy the Black Panther legacy. Thanos gets careless with the Infinity Gaunlet and Goose decides that it looks like great hidey hole - thus the universe is then dominated by the dangerous and fantastical musings of an all powerful cat!

Saw Captain Marvel opening day with my kids. Thought it was terrific, can't wait for Endgame! Definitely teared up a bit at the Stan Lee tribute, wasn't ready for that at all lol. Overall really enjoyed it. Not near as good as Black Panther, Spiderverse or the Avengers movies but definitely in the top tier of Marvel movies so far.

Well that's pretty troubling - BP is as bang average as Marvel gets!

@KALofKRYPTON I do wonder if the Infinity Gauntlet would still be fully functional since it was damaged after Thanos snapped his his fingers.

I thought Black Panther was not bad. Definitely not as good as the critics made it out to be. My issue was that it was way too hi-tech which wasn't what I was expecting. Also, the CGI in the movie was quite poor.

@KALofKRYPTON I respect your opinion however for my BP is in the top 3 of Marvel movies so far

Not a fan of captain marvel, think it’s tied with ant man 2 for weakest phase 3 film. The deus ex Machina of her “getting stronger” was ridiculous and I didn’t enjoy Brie larson’s performance. If she ends up leading the avengers, it doesn’t feel earned in the slightest.

@Spider-Cop By “getting stronger” do you mean when she was exposed to the explosion of the light speed engine which granted her powers, or when she realized the implant on her neck was a limiter that was holding her back and they were controlling her with and tore it off to unleash her full power?
I totally respect your opinion, I was just wondering. I pretty much felt it was standard fare for how these superheroes tend to “get stronger” — bit by a genetically engineered super spider, get accidentally exposed to gamma radiation, get injected with a super strength building serum, etc, etc. It’s pretty typical that they either get exposed to some crazy scientific miracle or they are just born with or inherit their abilities. It’s also pretty typical that there is some kind of “pulling your power from within” type of coming of age moment where the hero digs deep inside and unleashes their power (Guardians, Thor, Dr. Strange, Ant-Man, Superman, etc, etc.) I actually thought the inclusion of the twist with the Kree and Skrull switcharoo on good guy/bad guy and the tearing off the AI’s controller device was actually a pretty unique method to unleash her powers. I guess they all resonate differently with each of us. But honestly it is the same basic set up repeated on a lot of superhero stories. But I love them anyways 😉

Five more weeks to go!

Black Widow has gone through so many hairstyle changes. Now she's back to being a redhead. Also, I don't how I feel about the new uniforms.

So.... James Gunn is back to direct Guardians of the Galaxy 3. I'm surprised that Disney did a u-turn. Honestly, I thought Taika Waititi would've been a good fit. James Gunn will direct Guardians of the Galaxy 3 after his done with Suicide Squad 2 but Idris Elba is replacing Will Smith as Deathshot.

@WanderingBullet Glad to see common sense prevailed for once, with Guardians of the Galaxy 3.

I have no interest in any of the DC films anymore, so they can do what they want with em.

@WanderingBullet Saw that. I kind of hoped that would put the skids on Suicide Squad.

@KALofKRYPTON Are you talking about Idris Elba?

The reason they gave was because of scheduling conflict (he's filming Bad Boys 3) but maybe Will Smith decided that he's not interested in the role anymore. Otherwise, DC could've just replace Deadshot with another character and leave an opening for Smith to return in the third movie.

@WanderingBullet the whole thing.

I don't mind Suicide Squad all that much, but it doesn't need a soft reboot... Or even a sequel.

In all honesty, the DC movies haven't been 'that' bad. Suicide Squad was certainly the worst of the recent DC movies and I know Green Lantern wasn't the 'best' movie either but there have been far worse movies made.

I do have some minor gripes about BvS too but I do think that a LOT of the problems are that they aren't as good as the 'Marvel' films - at least the MCU movies and not films like the Fantastic Four (the last one was worse than Suicide Squad and Green Lantern), the Andrew Garfield 'Spider-Man; films - particularly the second, and lets not forget the 3rd Xmen Patrick Stewart era movie.

It does seem though that DC wanted to use the Tim Burton 'Batman' and the Nolan trilogy as the blueprint for the tone of their movies - something 'different' from the MCU. In fairness, that works very well for Batman, dark, gothic etc and their more 'comic' book versions - (Batman Forever and especially Batman & Robin) weren't critical successes. The last time they had success before Burton's Batman was the Christopher Reeve era Superman. The 4th Superman is worse than any modern DC flops.

I am not sure that DC needs to copy Marvel and have an interconnected 20yr plus plan. They could just as easily make 'stand alone' films - even a series of Films that stand alone - like a few Wonder Woman movies or more, A few Batman, a few Superman movies etc - all that stand on their own and not necessarily bring them ALL together for a Justice League movie. That way you could have the dark and gothic Batman Movies whilst Superman can be a bit more bright for example. Getting the right setting for the right character first and foremost. It looks like DC will need a new Batman and possibly a new Superman too...

I think its much easier to get an actor to contractually agree to a trilogy and maybe an extra film or two if the Story us right for them than get them tied to making 10+ movies for continuity and commitment to the 'Universe'.

Anyway, I am reliant on these movies coming to Sky and am only at Deadpool 2, I think the last MCU was the last Avengers Movie - I haven't seen Ant Man and the Wasp or Captain Marvel. Not sure if there is any others I may of missed...

@BAMozzy No, I think just those two are all the MCU has produced since Infinity War, so you’re only 4 hours [of middling MCU movies] away from being caught up.

It does feel like maybe the MCU is slowing down, but now that they have introduced Cap Marvel and she seems to be a hit at the box office, I assume we’ll get a sequel or two for her, not to mention another Black Panther. Does anyone know if they have an actual end to the MCU storyline planned? I heard the whole thing was planned out in the phases from the beginning back around Iron Man 1 and Capt America 1 days. If so, surely there is an end in sight, at least for the intertwined storyline with the infinity stones. “End Game” has the word “End” in it, so is it really “The End”?
I would like them to wrap it up, as much as I’ve liked nearly all these movies. But now with Stan Lee having passed on, it’s a good time to just have a powerful conclusion and let us all move on with our lives.
It’s a little like a TV series that just keeps going because it’s making money — I hate it when they beat it to death until it loses its artistic merit.
Harry Potter has kinda gone to well too much also with the new prequels. They’re nothing horrible, but they do feel a little like a cash-grab and are unnecessary as the original storyline was wrapped up perfectly.
Even Lord of the Rings is getting extended Universe stuff with the Amazon Prime series that is coming, I hear.
So, point is, I wish filmmakers would stick with keeping to the story they originally wanted to tell and not overextend it just because it will sell tickets.

@Th3solution Cool, I do struggle to keep up with which movies have released and which movies have finally been shown on Sky. I watch quite a lot of films to so I often forget what happened in the last movie and where the next movie fits in. It can be worse if the 'next' movie happens to be almost a stand alone - like the Guardians of the Galaxy movies or the Ant Man. Both of these didn't seem to tie into the Avengers as such and could be watched as independent from the story arc. Its just that the 'actors' etc were then brought into the arc.

I am sure they have the next phase of the MCU - whether that features the Avengers, the characters with or without certain members of the original line-up or not. The Avengers may not have Iron Man, Captain America or Thor for example but maybe Black Widow, Black Panther and Capt Marvel form part of the 'new' Avengers in the next Phase. I cannot see the MCU stopping after the 'End' game but maybe could be the End for some characters and the Actors in those roles. I remember reading quite a few years ago that Iron Man, at least the Tony Stark/Robert Downey Jr, would be replaced by an Actress. Either way, its too lucrative and popular to 'stop'. I am certain they will have a plan moving forward. I don't think they will 'end' everything. And by End, I mean this arc and any subsequent movies will be a 'reboot' - a new actor playing Iron Man or Capt America. I am sure that the time-line will continue and we will see a new phase as opposed to starting again at Phase 1...

@Th3solution I wouldn't be surprised if one or a few of the main Avengers (Iron Man and Captain America) dies in Endgame just so they can add new characters into the next phase. Don't think they're slowing down since they have three movies this year, Captain Marvel, Avengers: Endgame and Spider-man: Far From Home.

@WanderingBullet @BAMozzy Yeah, I would be fine with more Marvel movies if they would just wrap up and conclude the Thanos / Infinity Stone story.
If they continue with new heroes and a new master plan then it would be better imo.

@WanderingBullet @Th3solution
That is the plan.

Endgame is the end of the Iron Man/Cap era for them and a wrap for the Infinity Stones.

I'm more convinced that they may not actually kill them off, but they'll be out of contract and there most likely won't be any more solo films for the original team. There won't be a reboot - if anything, Riri Williams as Ironheart and possibly Sam Wilson as Captain America will be the next stage for the mantles of the Cap and Iron Man.

They'll probably do another couple of films from Black Panther and Captain Marvel while setting up the next story arc.

I'd quite like the Fantastic Four to get the MCU treatment - but they'll have to tread carefully for it not to feel like Guardians (since Guardians was in reality the FF stand-in team).

@Th3solution I can see numerous actors moving on and thus they or their characters won't be a part of what ever plan comes next. I can't see it being a complete reboot either - Spider-Man has a new movie in the works, Brie Larson/Capt Marvel must surely be continuing and Black Panther too. I don't know how they could keep these actors in and reboot the franchise, start a 'new' arc with say a new Capt America, Iron Man and Thor for example whilst still having the same Capt Marvel, Spider-Man and Black Panther. It would have to be a Phase 4 rather than a 'new' Phase 1.