Topic: The Movie Thread

@RogerRoger Well, you just used the banked apology you had with me by saying something negative about Robocop. There was honestly very little you could do to upset me, but you managed to find it incredibly quickly.

But to be clear, yes Robocop needs exactly the amount of swearing in it that it has!!

Number 2 is alrightish (great scene with the toxic waste), number 3 is laughably bad.

@RogerRoger to be honest I saw Robocop a few times when I was younger, but it never stayed with me in the way films like Terminator and Alien did. But then I saw it again about 5 years ago and I was seriously impressed with how good it was!

@RogerRoger The reboot is VERY PG-13. I didn't like it; they scrubbed away the majority of violence and profanity, but a lot of the personality went with it as well, I thought. Although it's not as bad as a lot of people made it out to be, either.

The profanity isn't as bad as what you see in a lot of "comedy" films today, and I think it helps establish a very gritty tone. But I understand sensitivities differ on that sort of thing.

Anyway, satire and really gruesome violence is sort of what Paul Verhoeven (the director) has become known for, primarily on the strength of Robocop and Starship Troopers (which was unfair to the surprisingly thoughtful original novel, perhaps, but was still a funny and resonant satire of militarism).

@Ralizah the reboot really annoyed me. I think that’s why Dredd didn’t do so great, since Robocop and Total Recall all had shoddy reboots around the same period and it got tarred with the same brush.

@kyleforrester87 @Ralizah The reboot of Robocop I found a bit dull really compared to the original. One of the few I've watched, I refuse to watch the Total Recall one as i like original and don't want the memory of that film ruined!

Captain Marvel (DVD) - Pretty standard Marvel fare, it was decent fun while it lasted. Not sure what her role in the comics is, but with her awakening there at the end it's clear they're trying to position her as the "Superman"-esque hero whom victory in Endgame is hinged upon. Not that I have a problem with that, as it was pretty cool seing her toss back an alien ballistic missile then rend apart an intergalactic cruiser in a matter of seconds with her bare hands.

@RogerRoger The OTT gore and swearing in RoboCop is 100% intentional. It's just another layer of the satire, poking fun at the hyper-violent films of the day featuring Arnie/Stallone etc, enforcing the commentary on America's obsession with violence in all its forms, be it physical or verbal. So your "is this really necessary?" reaction of is exactly what Verhoven wanted your response to be. Man, I miss the days of Verhoven at his peak. Still one of the most subversive directors of the last few decades.

Don't know if any of you superhero-jaded guys have seen Jame Gunn's SUPER with Rain Wilson, Ellen Page and Kevin Bacon, but if not I highly recommend seeking it out. A dark, brutal and utterly hilarious antidote to the Superheroes of today.

@Frigate No "See you at the party, Richter" no dice.

Although I did appreciate them faking out on the "two weeks" woman moment. That was a nice touch.

Sooooo Disney is Remaking Home Alone and Night At The Museum for Disney+ ... If this Home Alone isn't set in the 80's how the heck is the film gonna be longer then 5 minutes with mobile phones? 😅

@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy I think they're both supposed to be series aren't they? Which only makes it more insane. How the hell can you stretch home alone over the duration of a series?! Mental.

@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy Also you can get those cameras now that you can use to see what's happening on your doorstep. Mum probably won't even bother going back for Kevin to be honest.

I'd assume they're films @PaperyWhiteBoy (Cheaper by the Dozen and Diary of a wimpy kid is also being remade apparently).

I guess Night At The Museum could be made into a series.

But it'd be impossible for Home Alone surely... unless every single kid from the McCallister family is left home alone? 😅

I completely forgot about those creepy doorbells @Gremio108 ... Unless of course there's no Wi-Fi or something then it'd be completely moot like you said lol

Also seeing as Disney now own the Alien franchise as well... Does that make the Alien Queen a Disney princess?

@Ralizah 😂 Brilliant.

@RogerRoger Well you're the first person I've met who thinks Robocop 2 is better than the original, I'm kind of looking forward to your take on the trainwreck that was number 3 now!

"I liked that the drug use portrayed in the film centered around a fictionalised substance"

And I know I keep banging the drum, but give Dredd 2012 a go :')

@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy Just stumbled on the story over at IGN again. Yep...they're making them into shows.

https://uk.ign.com/articles/2019/08/07/disney-developing-home...

@kyleforrester87 100% Dredd is an absolute blinder. And considering the subject matter surprisingly beautiful in parts. I think it coming out within months of The Raid was a major nail in its coffin as well, since both have essentially the same premise. Is there any word on the casting for the TV show yet? I'm guessing it won't be Karl Urban, which is a huge shame.

@PaperyWhiteBoy nah nothing concrete on the Netflix show, even if they do it’ll be focused on other Judges too and to be honest the best thing about the movie is obviously Dredd himself and how he handles what’s going on despite the stakes, so to throw a bunch of weak a$$ judges into the mix and have it all play out like a run of the mill drama doesn’t excite me much.

I’d take a sequel staring Karl Urban, though.

@RogerRoger Fair write up, frankly it's been many years since I have seen number 2 and even longer since I've seen number 3 so maybe I should give it another crack. But as a trilogy it doesn't stand toe to toe with, for example, Alien 1,2 and 3 (yes, I'm one of the weirdos who loves Alien 3!) in my opinion. Let me know what you think of Dredd, it's hard to say it's my favourite film since one genre doesn't fit all moods but "pound for pound" I guess it probably is!

@kyleforrester87 Great scene, though.