Topic: The Movie Thread

@Foxy-Goddess-Scotchy
Loved the first, still do. I can tolerate the sequels - there's good stuff there, but The Matrix one whole, the MMO, the short films was very much of it's time.
I've no idea where the the story could go in any satisfying way. But unlike a difficult to adapt new IP like Cloud Atlas or just the unwavering tosh of Jupiter Ascending - a CGI fest followup to a much loved franchise with Keanu released in the next couple of years isn't going to lose anyone any money.

I'm surprised Venom turned out so well. Pleasantly actually. It turns in to a bit of a visual mess in the finale but, pretty good.

I can't stand Tom Hardy at the best of times (the best of times being Shinzon )- he has 4 variations of voice for 3 characterisations. He's rather boring to watch most of the time, and his work in Venom isn't great or anything, but the film carried him quite well.

At least we can have both Venom and Spider-Man with terrible american accents

Thanks in large part to Disney/Marvel - stand alone genre films are becoming scarce, and sequels and reboots are still the order of the day as most of the big studios want to fall back on the 'easy money' of previously successful IP. Shame really.

This remind me that I managed to have an almost heated discussion on why Ghostbusters 3 has already really annoyed me!

@LN78 A couple of the games were great fun. And the Animatrix was also really nicely done.

@kyleforrester87 the Keanusance $$$

@WanderingBullet I'm not a fan of MCU Spidey anyway - so I'm really not all that fussed if Holland's run is cut short. I think without Marvel being involved, the best idea would be to dive right in with a live action Spiderverse film and see where they can take it.

@LN78 If you have a PS2 - grab Enter The Matrix. That game was great fun!

Honestly, in terms of actual video based media - it's second only to the first film and a great example of allowing other creatives to pick up and run with a fresh IP. I don't think anything like it had been done before. It felt pretty innovative - and I think would still hold up viewed today.

@LN78 Sony have wanted their own wider Spider-Man franchise since the Raimi days. Whether Holland stays on board or not, Disney (and the sacks of Far From Home cash) may have given them the impetus to go for it now.

Spider-Man is a better character on his own, in his own pocket of New York. I know people will rage against a lack of MCU characters in whatever may come next, but it forces someone to write a better script, come up with a better plot than just lean in to the MCU for likes.

@RogerRoger ah. Do give it a read. I'd say that the key missing element of the animation is Batman's inner monologue.
It's something that can be surplanted by other forms of exposition, as has been successfully elsewhere. But an important thread of the book is set up pretty early on with Batman's fall from his line. And that is is physical and emotional state. The fall coming what feels like far later in the film just makes it a rather pedestrian plot point.

The Catwoman stuff is overdone in the film. She's nowhere near as intrusive in the comic, but she seems more influenced by more recent comic offerings than what was in Hush.

It really is one of the few DC animated films that feels like it just didn't stick the landing. The ingredients are all there, but it just wasn't that good a watch. Conversely, I really enjoyed Batman vs Ninja Turtles! Which by rights, should've been crap!

The first Matrix movie is excellent. I've never actually seen the sequels, but from the general reaction people seem to have about them, I'm not particularly bothered about watching Matrix 2 and 3 before 4 is released.

@RogerRoger @KALofKRYPTON Hush has been on my radar for ages now and I noticed there was a animated film released recently. Will defo give them both a go in the near future, possibly after I've finished the new 52 run of Batman. Hopefully I will fare better then with The Killing Joke, I was left bitterly disappointed by both the film and graphic novel.

@crimsontadpoles Whatever nonsense they concoct to justify another sequel, I would recommend watching the trilogy as a whole, with The Animatrix before Reloaded and Revolutions - as there will have to be some continuity callbacks.
I was pretty annoyed with the sequels at the time of release and beyond, but the overall story is decent - and my opinion of them is little better with the passage of time.

@JohnnyShoulder as Rog says, both book and film of Hush are leagues better the The Killing Joke counterparts.

@LN78 Not even Batman Forever?!

@LN78 Ha. Understandable. I do really like Batman Forever, for all of the faults.

B&R, properly terrible, but it's hilarity after a couple of beers with mates is genuinely hard to beat!

@LN78 That's showmanship(!) for you

Tom Cruise's currently prepping to shoot two Mission Impossible movies in a row (back to back). The first one's slated for a 2021 release followed by 2022 for the second movie. Looking forward to see what sort of crazy stunts they come up with next.

Tom will be 60 years old by then!

National Lampoon's Vacation (Blu-Ray) - Required summertime viewing as far as I'm concerned. As someone whose family used to take annual roadtrips up to Minnesota, so much of this film feels so relatable.

Granted, I'm not a fan of how they handled Edna's death, or rather Clark's reaction to it (he just seems like too much of a butt during this scene, and is hard to empathize with him here), but the rest of the film is just so much fun. Anything that can go wrong does go wrong, and unlike many modern raunch comedies that either overly rely on the F-Bomb way too much and/or get cartoonishly goofy, it usually stays just grounded enough to be believable, which makes it all the better, IMO.

@RR529 I am not really a fan of that one, but I do love Christmas Vacation. It always comes out for a viewing during the holiday season!

@RogerRoger Oh my... now we’re talking! That sounds awesome!

@RogerRoger
That's pretty much what I've been thinking, it also helps explain her having no training.

Rumor is that JJ Abrams' $500 million dollar deal with WB includes him helming Superman and Green Lantern projects.

If true, I think it's fair to say that we'll never see Cavill as Superman again

@RogerRoger you know that's just what i was thinking it was and what if it was Luke that put her on Jakku, perhaps he saved her from a clone facility during a mission

@KALofKRYPTON it's still possible he could be used but i think WB wanna reboot both Batman and Superman so he probably wont

@FullbringIchigo I think the next Superman film will be a reboot of some sort - no doubt about it really; and needing to recast Batman serves as a soft reboot opportunity at the very least.

I think they'll use JJ to do it and he'll dredge up his crappy ideas for Flyby while potentially opening the way for a shared universe again.