Topic: The Movie Thread

@RogerRoger Glad to hear you enjoyed Ant Man and the Wasp. For me it was enjoyable, but one of the weaker late phase outings. Part of me couldn’t help but question the logic and science of it all. How did the mom (I forget her name, but Michelle Phifer) survive all they time in the tiny dimension? What did she eat? How did she bathe? And how did she keep from going completely bonkers in what was basically solitary confinement for all those years? 😅 It’s waaay overthinking it, I know, but I couldn’t help it. But the Ant-Man films continue to have some of the greatest visual gags, despite the noted logic discrepancies. The Hello Kitty PEZ, the Thomas the Train toy, etc. 😂
Look forward to hearing your thoughts on the epic conclusion.

@RogerRoger that reminds me i still need to watch Spider-Man: Far from home

@RogerRoger Despite me loving all manner of arty farty movies and the like, I love a good Marvel blockbuster. I’ve been to see every single one in the cinema with my mum, even The Incredible Hulk. Don’t know how much longer we can keep that up considering that I’ll probably be moving away soon but we managed to see the entirety of the Infinity Saga. Honestly, the ones this year just don’t appeal to me and I’ve been a fan of the comics since I was pretty young.

@RogerRoger Really impressed that you’re going to give Into the Spiderverse a go. It’s a stand-alone, for the most part, and doesn’t integrate per se into a larger series at this time and I know you’re not exactly a huge fan of spiders, or men who dress in spider inspired suits. 😄 But I’m glad you’re giving it a spin because the interesting artistry and tone of the movie is enough to appreciate it, I think. Who knows, maybe you’ll end up warming up to the Webcrawler after all. It’s ace.

Into the Spiderverse is ace @RogerRoger! It's quite frenetically paced to start with, but thoroughly enjoyable. The script is snappy, the characters are likeable and as @The3solution pointed out it has very interesting artistry. It's CG but looks like it's stop-motion with a slight comic-book style traidtionally animated filter to it.

@JohnnyShoulder Right now, I'm just hoping that they don't mess up Cowboy Bebop.

@mookysam To add to what @mookysam and @Th3solution say, Into the Spider-Verse is fantastic and I'm quite fussy with my animated stuff. When I first started watching it I thought it was in 3D, but it is just a cool effect they have. Hope we haven't hyped it up too much for you and you still enjoy it!

@Th3solution You're trying to logically think through Marvel a movie? You must be a barrel of laughs at the cinema then! 😂

Most of the MCU must not make sense to you then, especially the last half of Endgame.

@mookysam @JohnnyShoulder @WanderingBullet @RogerRoger
Into The Spiderverse is the best Spider-Man movie since Spider-Man 2 by a long way, easily.

I'm hopeful for the sequel

@KALofKRYPTON I'm hoping to see a PS5 game in the same style!

@JohnnyShoulder Not outside the realms of possibility to be an optional feature or skin in Marvel's Spider-Man 2.

@KALofKRYPTON Would be cool to do it as dlc. I'm might be pushing my luck by requesting it as an expansion!

@JohnnyShoulder Given the monumental critical and financial success of the first game, which I don't think anyone could have predicted, I wouldn't put anything off the table for the follow up.

@JohnnyShoulder Lol, yes - it’s a curse and sometimes it mentally pulls me out of a movie when I start to think about the logic of it too much.
But usually I suspend disbelief as well as the next guy. My favorite genres of cinema are fantasy and Sci-Fi after all, so most everything takes a little blind faith in what’s going on in the fictional world. ...I do love a good documentary though.

But what sets me off is when a movie’s own explanation of fantastical occurrences is inconsistent within the movie. It doesn’t necessarily have to make logical sense in the laws of nature in the real world, but if the movie doesn’t follow its own rules, then I start to question it and my enjoyment of the experience sometimes dips. I was fine with End Game and most of the MCU. Sure some of the science is bogus and ridiculous, but I think most of it was consistent. Most fantasy fictional stories just have that “eh, it’s just magic” type of attitude that you have to adopt when you’re watching things unfold.

Small things are easier to look past such as:
>Spider-Man’s webs — they don’t really follow the laws of physics do they, nor do his web shooters.

>Lightsabers — how do they cut though solid rock and trees like hot butter but they (usually) won’t cut through armor and limbs?

>In a lot of movies and games — an arrow or gun shot wound into the hero’s chest or belly just slows them down for a minute and they fully recover by the next scene (just put a dressing on it and carry on), whereas a single arrow into the back of an enemy goon and they collapse immediately and die without even a struggle.

>When characters in a Sci Fi movie travel to a new planet, how is it that they end up in the exact spot where they need to be or where the people they need to find are? I mean, I can barely find my buddy when we’re trying to meet up in a busy mall and I know where I’m going and I have google maps all programmed and such. I’m pretty sure if I landed on a random planet that I had no foreknowledge about, it would take me months to find a particular city, much less an actual building and then several more months to track down one specific person in that city. Especially if all I had to go on was “he’ll be wearing a red plom bloom. And he likes to gamble.” What if I arrive at night and he’s asleep? What if he’s on vacation and not at the casino that day? Maybe he’s grocery shopping when I arrive in town, what then — Search all the Wal-Marts?
Heck, if I even landed randomly on planet Earth from space, I don’t think I could ever find my way home!

>Etc, etc.....

So yes, I can look past these things.
But in the case of Ant-Man if the movie goes out of its way to talk about the science and technology, yet it is inconsistent when it wants to apply those rules, well then I start to scrutinize. It doesn’t ruin it for me, it just takes me out of the moment sometimes.

So yeah, I’m a ball at the cinema.

I think I just discovered why no one wants to go see movies with me.

@Th3solution Thank you for the in depth explanation! I have to admit that did make me chuckle. We have probably all thought that along the same lines at some point, but I suppose everyone had different limits of what they can or can't let fly.

@JohnnyShoulder I hope it did make you chuckle at least a little, because I do say these things with tongue firmly in cheek.

If I dissected all fictional works this aggressively then I’d never enjoy any of this stuff. But there is some grains of truth in what I said too. Fiction needs to at least be consistent. As do characters. Nothing worse than a well developed character that suddenly decides to act inconsistently with what the author or director have developed them to be.

@Th3solution Yep I get where you are coming from as was only being half serious any way.

@KALofKRYPTON Personally, it's my favourite Spidey movie.

@RogerRoger You're missing nothing not having read CM comics. They've struggled to find any sort of fit for her for years - essentially because she's an incredibly boring character who's best traits are borrowed from other characters who've largely abandoned them.

I found the film a bit of meh-fest. Extremely average.

@WanderingBullet I doubt they'll do better than Raimi's Spider-Man 2 for me.

@RogerRoger Fortunately when I break down a movie, it’s typically afterward. I’m a very good movie companion otherwise. 😄

Interesting take on Capt Marvel. The movie is victim of the 20 movies that came before it and assumes a level of knowledge of the world, but yeah, the character origin story part could have been a little more clear because I remember being a little confused at first and feeling like it was kinda slow on the front half.
Did you connect the dots on the Kree and Skrulls from the other Marvel movies? Kree are notably seen first in the Guardians of the Galaxy storyline with Ronan. It enhances the story to see some of the threads that go throughout, but there are so many characters and races in so many movies sometimes it’s hard to keep track. But even without the larger interconnection, it’s still a decent film. I’ll be interested to see if you like how Capt Marvel is used in End Game.

Captain Marvel was alright. Feels like someone mashed a typical Marvel production together with a sci-fi B-movie screenplay. Brie Larson was lifeless, but then she's lifeless in every movie I've seen her in, so no huge disappointment there.

I liked Into the Spiderverse more than almost any of the Marvel movies I've watched, personally. And I've watched them all. The presentation is phenomenal.