Topic: The Movie Thread

@crippyd There are some similarities between this film and Alien Isolation BUT you also have to remember that the game puts you very much at the centre of that terror. If you can apply that to the situation we find the crew in - after of course the long build up that is setting up the characters etc, you can understand why the 'fear' was there. Games though have obviously gone beyond that now as it literally puts us in that situation where movies can't so it may seem less 'intense', less threatening as a result.

There is also the difference that the game puts you in that situation quite 'early' and the threat is prolonged over many hours where as 3/4's of the film seemingly has no threat. Even after the famous seen with John Hurt, there seems little threat and they actually go strolling around to try and catch it. Its not until Brett (Harry Dean Stanton) meets his 'demise', that we actually see the Alien in full - although if you look closely when you see all the chains swinging as he enters that area, you will see it - but if you didn't know what the Alien had grown into, which we didn't when it was 'new', you would miss that and it was then a 'big' shock to see it fully grown a few moments later. Even then, they still think they have a chance to catch it, a chance to kill it - still don't know exactly what they are up against. As a result, the tension doesn't really ramp up until the final third/quarter.

Essentially, the atmosphere of that final third or so is the atmosphere of the majority of the game - which ddn't need to set up the characters, the background or have to have that progression from egg, to facehugger to chest buster to Alien. It had the advantage of the history of the franchise to go straight to the tension. We didn't need an introduction to Ripley or the universe. I bet the '10th (I think) mission in the game though now has more significance - that was certainly a highlight moment for me...

@RogerRoger Do not watch Prometheus or Alien Covenant. Just spend five minutes coming up with the most preposterous and nonsensical origin for the Alien species and it'll be better then watching the films. Just saved you three hours and fifty five minutes there!

@RogerRoger

@Rudy_Manchego is bang on the money. If ever there was a shining example (beyond Star Wars, lol) of a creator really going the extra mile to (further) ruin the franchise they started - those two films are it!

Prometheus is the better of the two - and does have a wonderful score that is well worth listening to. Discussing Alien: Covenant in the same thread as 2001, Alien and Blade Runner just feels a little dirty.

That said, if you or your lady like the idea of some suggestive Fassbender on Fassbender action, go for it - I haven't laughed quite that much at an inappropriate moment in a cinema since Nicole Kidman died in Moulin Rouge!

@KALofKRYPTON Yeah the films are beautiful to look at, good scores and effects but the story and characters (Fassbender on Fassbender action aside) are just all over the place. For those that have seen Prometheus - I'd recommend the cartoon version on the Youtube channel How it Should Have Ended. Their ending is spot on and would have made a far better film.

@RogerRoger What? Even in Frank? ;-D

It's so cringeworthy. I can't help but think he had it written in to his contract! hahahaha

@Rudy_Manchego Agreed!

Covenant is on par with the AvP films, it's just doesn't realise it's utter trash and has notions...

@RogerRoger Do you really think the first 4 films get better with each one?

Im in this camp;

Aliens
Alien
Alien 3

They are good films. The rest may as well not exist.

@RogerRoger @KALofKRYPTON Frank is a great movie but Michael Fassbenders plot line in Covenant is just nonsensical.

@RogerRoger just look for the scene on YouTube - the dialogue alone is amazing. Search 'David Alien Covenant Flute' or something

In Frank he wears a Frank Sidebottom mask throughout the film - though it's not about him, sadly. Good film though.

@themcnoisy
Aliens Director's Cut on top then chuck the rest in however for me. That said - the extended cut of Alien 3 is pretty good. And the game was pretty ace too, so...

@RogerRoger Okay - if you're totally sure you don't want to 'enjoy' 'Two Fassbenders and One Flute' like the rest of us had to

Eh. Prometheus and Alien: Covenant are interesting science-fiction films in their own right, but they were setting audiences up for disappointment by connecting them to the Alien film franchise. They just don't scratch that particular itch.

Props to Covenant for giving us the most unsubtle homoeroticism in movie history, though.

@Ralizah you're spoiling @RogerRoger 's surprise! 😂

@KALofKRYPTON Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine.

Did you see it in theaters? The best part of the film was watching the men around me shift uncomfortably in their seats as the film gradually transformed into Homoeroticism: The Movie whenever the Fassbender twins were on-screen.

@Ralizah I did! It was worth the price of admission just for that.

@RogerRoger Yeah IIRC it was something to do with his travel arrangements. Originally he was only suppose to be a guest so he had it in his contract to only make a few appearently due to traveling between New York (where he lived) and LA where the show was filmed. However because of his popularity as Lex Luthor they decided to bring him on full time regardless of his contract which caused the rift and him leaving after the first season.

I can't comprehend how anyone can find Alien Resurrection a better movie than Alien. @RogerRoger I appreciate you have different tastes and all that but WOW.

@Ralizah @KALofKRYPTON I have some really good questions for Alien Covenant. Why did the ship stop near to that planet? Im sure it was on purpose.

Which then feeds into Alien and the prequels. Does mother know that David will create the Alien? Or has he been built to create new life?

Its like Mother is leading us as we follow her tune (played by a flute) to our deaths.

Crazily right now on E4 is Alien v Predator. Its absolutely terrible.

@themcnoisy I won't wade into an open Alien film debate (I do bloody love the franchise though, even the bad films)

But I will say AvP is actually okay in my opinion haha. I know it's bad but it's not BAD bad.

I first saw it with at the cinema with a girl I was really trying to get with so maybe I just have fond memories of that, though 😂

Anyone interested in Mandy by the way?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rI054ow6KJk