Topic: The TV Show Thread

@JohnnyShoulder Yeah. Glad I have it free.

The Boys is great, different from the comics, but adapted well. Other than Urban's accent 😂

I quite liked the John Krazinski Jack Ryan thing too. Pretty right and well paced.

@RogerRoger ha.

Jack Ryan doesn't dramatically change by episode three. 😂
In fact, one of things I liked and made me think of Clancy's writing, was that while the stakes are inevitably raised as the plot moves forward, the pacing remains relatively consistent and the show doesn't inject dramatic contrivances at every convenient juncture (here's looking at you, 24!).

Krazinski is largely believable in the role too which is a help.

@RogerRoger It's worth a go.

It was also quite refreshing to have a significant amount of time devoted to the villain as opposed to just another 'darkie with a gun' scenario.
You never quite sympathise, but there's also a distinct lack of one-sided moralising. Again, I think rather inkeeping with the source; We're presented with characters, situations and reactions - with the moral weight of each side represented well.

@KALofKRYPTON Yeah I've heard good things about Jack Ryan. Wanna also try Bosch.

@KALofKRYPTON @RogerRoger There's only 4 real EdgeLords. Shadow and us.

• Batman 80th Anniversary Collection (BD)
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• Batman Beyond: Complete Limited Blu-ray (BD/Digital)
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@WanderingBullet That Batman Collection is awesome!!! Do we know what movies are part of the collection? I am assuming that the Burton, Schumacher and Nolan series will be included but that's only 7 movies and the set said 18 (I think it was).

@Tasuki The collection only contains DC Batman movie animations. If you scroll down the page a bit to "Customers Reviews" there's an image list of all 19 movies.

@Tasuki @WanderingBullet @WanderingBullet

Pretty lame for the 'movie' collection - but they've also got the newer live action 4k remasters to sell, so not all that surprising they're not included.

The Beyond collection looks great.

@themcnoisy Is that a challenge?

@KALofKRYPTON The main thing thing I don't like about that collection is the inclusion of The Killing Joke. Otherwise, it's a decent collection especially with 19 discs for that price.

@WanderingBullet TKJ managed to make a massively overrated book in to a pretty lackluster film.

They could've held off an included more really. That said - I can't say I'm particularly on board with what they did with Hush - but given the stuff they've already done in the series - there wasn't really a way to do it without major changes or retcons - which is a shame. It's a brilliant book!

@KALofKRYPTON I haven't read the The Killing Joke but thought the animation was terrible. I've read Hush and really liked it but I haven't bought the Blu-ray, yet.

@WanderingBullet It is without doubt, the most overrated piece of fiction writing I've ever encountered. I do not say that lightly. Moore's name carries way too much weight. The writing is bloated and not particularly clever, or even funny. Bruce Timm could write circles around Moore all day, and did - several times - better the entirety of TKJ in a single episode of TAS and BB.

The adaptation is pretty faithful apart from the Batman/Batgirl relationship (eugh!).

As for Hush. a few changes, as you would expect given Jason already showing up in Under the Red Hood - a but one particular one that really doesn't make sense to change. It's adapted as well as most of them though.

@LN78 Absolutely. The Long Halloween is Shakespeare compared to The Killing Joke. It's tight and almost a procedural in effect, which is a great (the ideal) way to write Batman. It is at it's core at least deserving of the praise it gets.
The Killing Joke, from any other writer in the DC stable at the time wouldn't be nearly as revered. It's a mean spirited one-trick-pony with terrible dialogue that does very little to deserve praise. Other than being an infamously crappy use of Batgirl - it shouldn't have such notoriety.

@RogerRoger Get on Hush. For such an almost faithful adaptation, I'd like to know your reaction. I as fairly 'meh' by the end of it.

@RogerRoger Go for it.

Back on topic. It's a bit of a shame that The Tick got cancelled. Season 2 is a good step up from the first; still not quite as good as the Warburton series - but definitely heading in that direction.

@LN78 Psychological realism doesn't fit with either the rest of the book, or really Batman and the Joker. I think the film (Joker) will be OK. Nothing new or surprising or remotely necessary since it's a one-shot, but it'll be fine.

Can't stand Moore as a bloke. He's written some good stuff for sure, but most of the rest and some of what's good could also be ascribed as 'self indulgent rambling'. V is his pinnacle - great book. I like Watchmen, but it was very much a social contagion thing for me in my youth - you could cut 1/3 of it and have a better time.

As for Miller, he got really lucky! TDKR was absolutely seminal, and I'll take nothing away from it's impact. But the rest of his work is pretty awful, especially the Dark Knight follow up stuff. Ronin was OK, bit of a slog though.

@LN78 I'm sure that's what he wants you to think...

Anyway... TV! DareDevil! That was a TV show! TeeVee!!!!!

@RogerRoger Those two Adam West Batman animations were entertaining.haha

I used to loved listening the live-action tv series theme song when I was young.

@LN78 Easily done