Topic: Official Push Square Xbox Thread

@BAMozzy I'm really liking the idea of xcloud, basically most of the benefits of the Switch but with presumably much better performance and only needing to take your controller, I'll probably use such a thing at home too if the Mrs wants to watch the TV. I've registered my interest so fingers crossed that I get to try it out. Can't wait for The Outer Worlds but I've got plenty to play on Gamepass until then, not least Gears 5 which is amazing and as good as any exclusive on PS4, plus a real visual treat on the X

@carlos82 To be honest, I can't see myself being in a position where Streaming games would be useful. I only play at home and can use my console any time I want so I don't need to stream to a phone for example but that doesn't mean that I can't see the advantage and usefulness for others.

The Outer Worlds does look interesting and I am enjoying Gears 5 - certainly is visually impressive too. I still have to install Borderlands 3 too so I have a few games to keep me going...

October's 2019 Games with Gold lineup for Xbox One includes: Tembo the Badass Elephant and Friday the 13th: The Game. For Xbox 360 owners (and through Xbox One backward compatibility), October kicks off with Disney Bolt, followed by Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge.

Not a great line-up as far as I am concerned....

@BAMozzy I think Microsoft are more focused on getting the best games for Gamepass these days, there's nothing for me on that list but I'm not exactly short of things to play either with a bit of a queue forming with my Gamepass subscription and I still want to give Borderlands 3 a go

@BAMozzy i had NG3 on the WiiU but i sold it ages ago (during one of those times i needed the money) so it coming on gold is pretty handy because i have been having an itch to play it again

@carlos82 I have a lot too so its not a big deal. Its still giving us 4 games every month but its been a while since they offered something that appeals. Its easy to blame Game Pass too but there have been a few 'bigger' name titles - just maybe not as often or as memorable as we would like.

@FullbringIchigo NG3 is the standout title for me too but its not a game that I would buy had it not been given free. I do feel that way about 360 titles - especially as I have so many current gen games in my backlog. With those games, I can't see myself opting to play NG3 instead of playing the growing backlog...

A top month in store for Gamepass owners coming up, obviously the highlight is The Outer Worlds but we also get to play their previous work in Fallout New Vegas. Alongside those there is the hidden gem that is Panzer Dragoon Orta and current gen titles in Yooka Laylee, Dishonoured 2 and World War Z

So hopefully someone here can fix my problem. Recently Fallout New Vegas was added to the Gamepass which I have a sub for. I owned a copy of Fallout New Vegas Ultimate Edition which included all the DLC on disc. Well before the game was added to Gamepass I had the DLC installed, now it says I don't and if I try to play the DLC it's trying to charge me for it.

Anybody have any idea why it's doing this? It never did this before they added New Vegas to the Gamepass so I am guess that the problem.

Anyway I can fix this problem?

@Tasuki I'm assuming you still have the disc and had it in the Xbox when trying to play it?

@carlos82 Yep I didn't try to access it from the Gamepass menu.

@Tasuki that's weird, it's not even available to download on Gamepass until next week either. The only thing I can suggest is highlight the game and check games and add ons to see if they're installed or try putting disc 2 in to see if it will install the dlc

@Tasuki i did a google search and people are saying you need to reinstall the DLC from the 2nd disc

but as i don't own the game i can't check if it works or not

@KratosMD I can find all of them on the store on my phone and Forza 6 was included with Games with Gold this month.

Aee you looking at the Gamepass page as they were never on there?

@KratosMD yeah same here, it's why i will always go physical over digital

although i don't understand why MS are doing it unless they are trying to force people to buy the newer ones because the best normal Forza game is still Forza 4 on the 360

@KratosMD nope the 360 ones are gone too, i recently had to get a new 360 but i could only find a slim so as i didn't have a transfer cable i had to redownload all my stuff and most of the DLC is gone now and the games off XBL too

so yeah i can't even redownload stuff i have paid for which is another reason i hate digital only stuff

@KratosMD oh ok, I'd have thought there would have been a bit more noise about it given the Driveclub and Ducktales stories when they were removed.

So you can't even download what you've already paid for? That's just out of order, I know other games have been taken off sale but like Ducktales I was still able to download it, though we had to complain to get the 360 version of Doom back

@KratosMD Yeah I remember MS saying something that Forza Horizon 2 was being delisted along with all of the DLC from it's digital store awhile ago not long after they gave it for free with GwG. The only thing I can guess is maybe it was a licensing issue with the cars?

Its possible that it didn't generate the same anger as Driveclub because Xbox has a much smaller user base and/or there isn't really a great Xbox site equivalent to Push Square anymore. I don't frequent sites like IGN or Eurogamer as often as I used to and don't always watch the official Xbox news video's on youtube either. I only check Xbox Wire, the official Xbox news site every couple of weeks or so, therefore I am not really keeping up with the news specific to Xbox.

I am sure those games are on my Xbox - not sure if I have them installed as I know I didn't buy all the Motorsport XB1 games - 5 and 6 - and next time I'm on, I will check to see if they are installed or in my 'ready to install' list. It would be very bad practice though to delete the game entirely if you purchased digitally. Worst case scenario though is that you could pick up the discs really cheap if you wanted to play the base game....

@BAMozzy true but the thing is they keep so much out of the base game that it feels incomplete with out the DLC, don't get me wrong you still get plenty in the base version but when you click on a car you want to buy or a course you want to race and it says you don't have the DLC and now you can't get the DLC it's just makes it feel like your playing half a game

@FullbringIchigo Its never bothered me to be honest as there are a LOT of cars and I refuse to pay for multiple car packs when I have access to hundreds as it is - far more than I will ever get around to playing. I do think those cars though should be handled in a different way - maybe a tab to swap between the cars you can use and those locked behind a pay wall as I do agree that its rather annoying to see them alongside the rest.

I would feel differently if you only had 50-100 cars to pick from with 600 or so locked behind DLC but I never felt that I didn't have choice or enough cars to use. Its a long way from one of the Forza games that you could install extra cars on a 2nd disc - those with the arcade 360 (only 4GB storage I believe) may not have the room. BF3 had a 8gb Texture pack that improved the visuals but had to be an optional install because of the 'Arcade' version - PS3 owners had no choice and had to install it regardless. I remember how keen I was to play Resistance 3 and being annoyed that it had a partial install that took over an hour - then gad to update too! Preparing us for this gen LOL Anyway that's off topic.

I know that it can feel like half a game but at launch, those cars weren't included in the menu anyway - it gradually got worse over time as more and more car packs were added - let alone those added with the DLC which to be honest is the only disappointing aspect if they aren't available. I do know that a LOT of those car packs - inc the pass which gave you all the car packs - in numerous sales and massive reductions - £20+ down to ~£2 for example but I was never tempted because I had more than enough cars and the only thing(s) I would be interested in would be anything added to expand the game - new tracks or some crazy DLC (Horizon) but I never felt that I was missing out big time because I didn't have some Ferrari in racing livery or the Fiat 500 that was also in the pack. None of that really stopped me racing in any of the 100's of cars you have access to at launch. It never blocked me off from any circuit or any areas (apart from the DLC areas that, like the cars, appear on the map to entice you into buying) so I never really felt that I needed to buy extra cars...

I know I am not you and that you may feel very differently. I haven't checked myself, but have you tried looking at the MS store via a PC? I still have lots to do in FM7 & FH4 without going back. I did all the roads and signs in FH3 but 16/17 of the 20 barn finds (another source of cars). I haven't had chance to check my older Forza games yet and see what is available or not and what is actually playable now. I wasn't bothered about online with Forza - these for me are 'mindless' fun, time wasters instead of being a 'serious' racing sim and messing about with all the parts that are tweakable just to gain a tenth of a second here or there.