Topic: Official Push Square Xbox Thread

@LtSarge Just make sure to change the controls in the options to modern FPS controls. I still have loads of fun playing it in split-screen with my brothers!

I'm actually more interested in the FPS boost games than most of the list of the new and final additions to backwards compatibility outside of maybe the F.E.A.R. series and Max Payne. It seems to have been a solid show from what was announced, but I can see people not interested in Halo basically shrugging it off.

Both Timesplitters games have been added to the Microsoft Store and they're only €10 each! That's ridiculously good pricing, I'll definitely have to get them soon.

@nessisonett Apparently the first Timesplitters is a PS2 exclusive and not available on Xbox. Is it fine to skip it and just play 2 and Future Perfect?

@LtSarge Yep, TimeSplitters 2 has a lot of content from the first one included if I remember correctly. The single player content is insanely expansive with a campaign plus loads and loads of individual challenges that give you characters, weapons, levels, modes and more to use in the multiplayer.

@RogerRoger With Sonic Unleashed now running at 60FPS on the Xbox, I’m surprised you aren’t clamouring to get one!

It's a shame that's the end of the BC.

I was speaking to my partner about it and explaining that 50 Cent had become backwards compatible and she pointed out that it had actually become forward compatible.

She's right of course, but it did make me think at what point BC became standard lingo. With the PS2 that system was backwards compatible with PS1 games and it's true, the system itself was backward compatible.

In terms of Xbox one, it would be correct to say that the system is backwards compatible with certain games. But me being lazy will probably continue to say "this game is BC!!!!" 😅

Is the 50c game actually good? Or is it some kind of meme?

@ralphdibny Its the hardware - not the 'software' that is considered with Backwards Compatibility. The Software itself is the 'same' software that released back then and its the 'system' and work behind the scenes to allow the game to run on modern hardware via its Backwards Compatibility.

HDMI ports can be considered Backwards Compatible because you can use a HDMI 1.4 or 2.0 cable in a HDMI 2.1 port. The HDMI 1.4 cable is NOT Forwards Compatible with HDMI 2.1 - because it does NOT offer the HDMI2.1 bandwidth and specs. It limits your HDMI 2.1 spec down to the limitations of the cable so its 'not' forward compatible, but the port that is BC so it still works, but only to the standards expected from the cable

The games themselves are generally 'fixed' to the specs of the original hardware - maybe play a bit better with 'better' hardware - but they are still the same as if played on the older hardware so they Backwards Compatible with the 'new' hardware. The Enhancements are relatively superficial in that they can implement those without developers and the games 'source' code.

If you had a Forwards Compatible HDMI1.4 cable, plugging it in to a HDMI 2.1 port would give you HDMI 2.1 specs instead of limiting the HDMI 2.1 port down to HDMI1.4. As the games are basically the 'same' (excluding those superficial enhancements) as running on Original hardware, they are Backwards Compatible with modern hardware...

@RedKnight34 To be fair, I’ve been pretty vocal about both. Elder Scrolls VI being exclusive doesn’t seem like a great move given how popular Skyrim is on all platforms. But then I can’t exactly blame them given Sony’s exclusivity policies the last couple of gens.

@RedKnight34 @nessisonett I also think this topic isn't as simple as people are making it to be. For instance, there's been speculation that Bethesda was in a poor state financially and Microsoft swooped in and saved them. Another argument is like you guys said that Sony kept paying for timed exclusivity for multiple Bethesda titles such as Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo, and Starfield was possibly also on the table. So Microsoft decided to buy ZeniMax in order to prevent more timed exclusive games for PlayStation.

Then my own opinion is that it's better that Microsoft acquired ZeniMax than a company like Tencent that's gobbling up so many studios and publishers. Another advantage of having Bethesda being owned by Microsoft is that all their games will now come to both Xbox and PC day one, as well as Game Pass day one. I mean, imagine being able to pay only €10 to play Starfield. I'm sure there are people out there who would be able to finish a game like that in 1-2 months with constant play.

I'll just leave this here. I'm surprised pushsquare hasn't published this.
https://www.purexbox.com/news/2021/11/playstation-team-celebr...

@RedKnight34 You should probably stop proving Kid’s point. It’s just a bit embarrassing now.

That was actually the last game that I had any part of. It’s not bad, much better than you would expect from a Fiddy game. Haha.

Can anyone recommend a controller that isn’t anywhere near as clicky as the ridiculously loud Xbox controller.

I’ve been using the Series X a lot lately because of Forza Horizon 5 and the noise literally gives me a headache. Especially when using the menus.

Been searching and while a lot complain about the noise, nobody seems to recommend an alternative. I swear with each Xbox it gets louder and louder.

@SoulChimera You're not wrong about the noise. With the Series X controller, the most noise for me comes from the new d-pad. It was ridiculous at first, but the more you use it the more you get used to it for better or for worse. Other than the noise, it is a much better d-pad than on previous ones.

@KilloWertz Yeah, the d-pad is crazy. I’m just not a fan of clicky buttons. I was thinking about playing Killer Instinct the other day, but my neighbours would think I’m demolishing my place.

@SoulChimera Lol, that might be a bit much.

I don't mind the controller overall. It's the little glitches here and there in the Xbox software (things don't always work the way they're supposed to 99% of the time like they do on PlayStation), which there always seems to be, and the fact that their compression is crap compared to PS5's. When a game is nearly half the size (Control: Ultimate Edition) or patches are under 7 GB while they are around 25 GB (Assassins' Creed: Valhalla), that is a sign one company did something really good and the other didn't care.

Not entirely knocking Xbox, as I do actually really like my Series X and will never get rid of it, but it's hard to fully commit to Xbox over PlayStation due to certain things like what I mentioned above.

Did you used to work at codemasters?? I think that's who developed it, I could be wrong!

As for the controller, there's a new wired 8bitdo pro pad coming out for Xbox consoles in early December. Looks like their Sn30 pro pad.

No idea how good it will be or if it will be clicky or not. I might wait for reviews, the price is a bit steep at £40 but I am so tempted because I'll be able to play more d pad heavy games on the One X.

Might be worth waiting for reviews and a bit of a discount on it but it's available for pre order at Amazon