Topic: Official Push Square Xbox Thread

@jdv95 hi mate. Long time no speak. I was regular here for like 7 years during the ps4 (hope you remember me bro).

Gamepass is great. If you pick it up via PC or on the console you can literally smash 18 months worth of gaming marathons and smile all the way. I've garnered almost 70k gamerscore (think 70 platinums) in a year and still have stuff on my play list.

The updates all year are well laid out. MS are masters of commercial IT so you know what is and isn't happening. The UI works great. As @trev666 and @Lavalera have informed you, the games that are leaving are labelled. You get 20% off each game during that period, in case you want to buy.

Also with Gamepass ultimate you have just under 400 games to snipe at. It's superb when a new game comes and it's on the service, such as high on life or scorn. It does however miss a lot of games and recently my own purchases have taken centre stage.

You also get MS rewards. Which is unbelievable if you are willing to give 10 minutes of your time most nights. Without going overboard I have scored 3 x £25 xbox vouchers, 2 x xbox £5 vouchers, 1 x £5 tesco voucher (£90 altogether) 2 x months of gp ultimate and given £12 to charity. Entered around 10 prize draws and still have points to use (about £10 worth). Its crazy in all honesty. As someone looking to save on my gaming handouts it's been a godsend.

Xbox does have some negatives. The games simply aren't as good as Sonys first party games. Nothing on the system is comparable to Ghost of Tsushima let alone HZD 2 or GOW2. The xbox one games were slightly nerfed compared to the ps4 and its shows when you backwards compatibly play the likes of Tekken 7 and watchdogs 2, they look a lot worse. And the controller although solid and usable, does struggle with button inputs on the likes of contra as an extreme example. Finally it doesn't have Dreams so I can't produce music anymore!

Otherwise the system itself (xbox series x) is quiet and a beast with loading similar to the ps5. Imo it looks better. Forza Horizon 4 and 5 are the best driving games in the world and Ori, Halo MCC and Immortality are must plays!

Gamepass is great. Depending on what happens in the next few months I can decide to stay subbed or back out. I have got my moneys worth many times over.

@themcnoisy het mate good to hear from you!
Yeah the games on gamepass are better then those on plus extra etc especially the day 1 games. I just found out wo long will be day 1. Crazy.

Tbh i caved because of starfield supposedly coming in the first half of this year. Also stressing over MS buying more studio's became tiring so why not just go with both consoles.that way there´s nothing to miss out on.

Plus with redfall and again starfield coming this year,it feels like the right time to Join up.

@jdv95 there is a lot of rubbish too lol. I'm not that interested in the openworld stuff Arkane put out. Deathloop was overrated imo. I don't enjoy playing any of their games. It's really strange actually, as I like mgs and splinter cell - but arkanes spin on stealth is maddening. The opening to deathloop - I didn't know what was going on and once I did, I didn't really care.

Much more interested in the next proper forza and as you say the likes of wo long and finally playing persona 3.

Happy hunting anyway.

Are honestly a bit tempted to buy an Xbox sometime this year. Especially if I find a good deal somewhere. Not that Playsation are lacking good games but yeah some Microsoft exclusives are a bit temping. Guess we will see what happens.

Wow, that Xbox Developer Direct was actually pretty good. Forza Motorsport looks impressive as hell, Redfall looks like tons of fun and then we have the shadow drop from Tango Gameworks: Hi-Fi Rush, which looks absolutely phenomenal. Genuinely cannot wait to delve into it this weekend.

This was probably the best showcase that Xbox has made in a very long time. And that's without Starfield. I'm actually kinda excited for Xbox in 2023.

I'm definitely playing Hi-Fi Rush this weekend, that looked great!

@ManifoldCuriosity same thing happened to me, mostly played old games and just sold it, congrats on the Series S though.

@LiamCroft I've just had a quick go through Xcloud and it's great fun, kind of like Crypt of the Necrodancer but you time your attacks to the beat and it looks fantastic. I can see this being a popular one

I’m literally hovering over the ‘buy’ button for an Xbox Series S! I’m so tempted. High on Life looks great, so does Hi-Fi Rush. Plus there’s several Xbox One games I’d like to play, like ReCore and Quantum Break. It would also be nice to replay games like Conker: Live & Reloaded and Lost Odyssey.

@Bentleyma The “GoldenEye” remaster is out tomorrow! That might be helpful. Or not.

@LN78 Is it? I knew it was coming out on Switch, but I didn’t realise there was an Xbox version, too.

I bit the bullet and bought one. Might as well own all three current consoles.

Yeah - it's getting added into the "Rare Replay" collection at no additional cost. Should be fun.

@LN78 That’s pretty cool. I just watched the trailer for it. Shame they didn’t add online multiplayer.

@Bentleyma That was the trade off - Xbox got the shinied up 4K 60FPS version with couch co-op but Nintendo got the (subscription only) online multiplayer game. Not sure how that deal got hammered out but it is what it is.

@LN78 @Bentleyma From what I've understood the Nintendo version is the N64 rom. And the emulator has multiplayer baked into it. The Xbox version is a new version and therefore doesn't have that option.

Don't know if that is true, but thats what I've read from multiple sources around the time when Goldeneye got officially announced again.

@Lavalera Good shout - that sounds about right, thinking about it.

@Bentleyma I'd argue its worth it just for the games available through backwards compatibility, plus it's very easy and great to use for emulation should you want to

HiFi Rush looks very cool. Otherwise - I liked the format and general execution of the Developer Direct but none of the other games shown are interesting to me (although Forza looks excellent from a tech point of view).

@Bentleyma I believe Nintendo own the IP and Rare own the Assets/code - so unless they came to some mutually beneficial solution to 'BOTH', the game would be stuck in Limbo hell.

Nintendo are using the 'Original' N64 game code/assets and using their 'online' system to bring online to the game - as Switch Lite for example isn't really designed for Split Screen co-op. No disrespect to Switch, but its not a 'high' res console and running '4' instances of the MP - albeit at 'quarter' resolution, maybe too much for the Switch and definitely not 'ideal' to play on its built in tiny screen. It perhaps makes more sense for Nintendo to switch to Online MP.

Rare/MS are using an 'updated' version and keeping to the 'Original' couch co-op MP suite the game was designed to offer keeping that authentic Goldeneye 'couch co-op' MP experience that made it so popular back in the day and Xbox certainly has the 'horsepower' to run up to 4 instances of the MP simultaneously in high res on Large 4k TV's at a decent frame rate. It doesn't 'need' to add Online to something that never had Online.

Nintendo can now offer the 'Original' Goldeneye made by Rare with a 'new' way to play the MP, Rare offer the Original Goldeneye 'experience', inc the authentic couch co-op, but with a 'new' make-over. Nintendo are offering 'Goldeneye N64', and MS are offering 'Goldeneye Remastered' and 'neither' can 'sell' to make money off the other's owned licenses. If Nintendo sold Goldeneye, they'd owe Rare money for their code/assets and if MS sold it, they'd owe Nintendo for using their IP - so both (I believe) are ONLY available on their Sub service - as well as through purchasing Rare Replay as that isn't 'selling' Goldeneye specifically but a collection of Rare made games.

It was a case of negotiating a way to bring Goldeneye back without 'screwing' over the other and 'profiting' directly from anothers License. If you 'sub' to Nintendo or Xbox services, you are subbing to access a 'collection' of games, you are not 'buying' a license for 'Goldeneye/Goldeneye: Remastered' and therefore some money has to go to License holders etc - same as those who play through Rare Replay as you buy a 'Rare Replay' License, not a Goldeneye specific license.

@BAMozzy So I'm right in saying this isn't the XBLA version that got leaked online a while back?