Topic: Official Push Square Xbox Thread

Having finished Far Cry 5, I have decided to start playing through the Witcher 3 DLC. It wasn't a priority having bought the GotY edition on PS4 so I played through the main game again and all the DLC on that console. It's stunning in 4k - I haven't tried the performance mode as I wanted to see the game in the highest resolution and HDR too - can't wait to get to Blood and Wine...

@KratosMD I never noticed that happening in my FH3 but then I had played a few hours into the game long before FM7 launched. I saved a lot of the game until the X arrived and the only thing that annoyed me was the fact the season pass areas are on the map and the DLC cars are included in the menu's to the point that it seems they are being excessively pushed. I don't play 'racing' games that much - just occasionally for so,me mindless gaming and something different to the games with a big focus on Story. As such, I don't want all DLC and want to see what cars I can buy. I wish there was a way to turn off DLC cars from the lists.

19 new OG Xbox games coming to Xbox Backwards Compatibility this month inc Star Wars Battlefront 1 and 2, Star Wars KotoR 2, Star Wars Jedi Starfighter, Jade Empire, Morrowind, Blinx, Conker Live and Reloaded, SSX3 etc.

Not only that, 6 more XB360 games are now Xbox One X enhanced. these are Red Dead Redemption, Darksiders, Gears of War 2, Portal 2, Sonic Generations and Star Wars: The Force Unleashed.

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2018/04/10/backward-compatibility...

I'm impressed with the games and I imagine many people will be happy to have red Dead redemption remastered on x1x before rdr2.

@BAMozzy that actually covers most of my OG xbox games now which is great

and at last 2 decent Battlefront games to play

Sonic Generations... Must admit, I'm a bit jel.

@KALofKRYPTON i'm just glad to be able to play it again, when my 360 died i lost access to a lot of games i loved

@BAMozzy @KALofKRYPTON @FullbringIchigo Im considering getting my own x1s for the old games. I can never use my kids due to Fortnite or whatever other kids crap they play so it will probably be a wise investment. Do you need to buy xbox live to run these games? I would love a replay of Jade Empire, Conker, Gears 2 and Halo Reach. I have never played Red Dead so thats a win as well.

@themcnoisy do you mean XBL Gold, well i don't have it right now and they work fine

@FullbringIchigo Thanks. Crazy question I know. Wanted to be sure.

@themcnoisy You only need Gold if you want to play the games online - same as you would on a 360.

@BAMozzy got you.

I gave up on xbox last gen (had the 360 as my main console) so all the backwards compatibility has me intrigued. I know the original xbox was a bit of a black sheep but I loved it. No memory cards, the best rpg of that gen in kotor, the best fps in Halo 1 and 2, the best racer in PGR2 and obviously Conker! That was a great generation when I look back with PS2, gamecube and xbox.

That was probably the time when games grew up.

@themcnoisy
It was a great generation. I was working and living with my mom, so had more money than god and spent it on consoles, games, cigs & booze!

I still have my Crystal Xbox, Silver PS2 (and a red slim I got later) and Silver GameCube. I traded, sold and re-purchased so much game stuff in those days. I had black versions of each of those consoles and traded them to match my Trinitron TV!! What a knob! (Actually, my original phat PS2 did have a dodgy DVD drive).

Not many OGXB games left though. Think I have Unreal Championship, Metal Slug 3, Street Fighter Collection, Halo 2..... maybe a Fable game... Possibly still have Emergency On Planet Earth saved to the hard drive too.

@themcnoisy I still have a box full of OG Xbox games in my cupboard, but yet to dig them out and try via BC. The games though do look like they were 'remastered' for XB360 rather than given the full XB1 era remaster and they often play better too. If you really want the 'best' Backwards compatibility experience, the X is the way to go. A number of the 360 games run just as well on the XB1 (similar drops in frame rate and same resolution) but on the X, they play faultlessly and the enhanced games are 9x the resolution meaning that many are running at native 4k. The OG games are running at 16x the resolution on X! Playing games like Forza Horizon (the first) at native 4k looks great and as you can see from the videos, games like RDR have never looked better on console. It almost makes them look and feel new.

This is the announcement of the BC games and has some comparisons between OG Xbox versions of Battlefront and Jade Empire and the XB1 versions

Digital Foundry's breakdown of the RDR enhanced version - 9x the pixel count over both the XB360 and XB1 (both 720p) and 16x Anisotropic Filtering - but more importantly, the most consistent and near faultless 30fps with no screen tear...

@BAMozzy I watched that DF comparison video on my phone last night but it doesn’t do it justice unless you watch it on a 4K display and it wasn’t until I played it on the X that I really seen the difference, I could tell straight off how the native 4K made it look a lot clearer and sharper but also the cutscenes running at a steady 30fps whereas on the 360 and XB1 it always stuttered.

For awhile people have been asking for RDR to be remastered but since Rockstar aren’t in the business of remastering their games, this looks to be the only way to experience RDR at its best in native 4K and at a consistent 30fps, only on the X since RDR isn’t even on PC, playing it on a PC through PS Now doesn’t really count since you can’t optimise it like you could if it released solely on PC itself.

I would like to now see GTA IV get the same treatment that RDR got but I doubt it will happen and I can’t believe Max Payne 3 still hasn’t been made BC yet, it would also be great to have both Max Payne 1 & 2 made BC as well.

@MaccaMUFC youtube videos rarely do 4k justice - even if you watch youtube via your TV and not on a smaller screen - like a phone or laptop. There is a lot of compression which is why DF set up a Patreon page to download their 4k videos and watch them at the quality they were recorded.

However, even with a smaller - even just a 1080p display - you can see there is a significant difference. Its hard not to notice the shimmer on the original too that is eradicated by the jump up in resolution. Combined with the much cleaner and sharper image and the much more consistent frame-rates, its certainly the closest we will most likely get to a 'remaster' and definitely the 'best' option to play this game.

The X enhanced BC games in particular are almost like 'new' games - they look and play much better than ever (unless you had a PC and these games released on that - not the case with RDR though) with virtually perfect frame-rates, no screen tear, 4k visuals and 16x Anisotropic filtering. At best, the base XB1 improves just the frame rate of 360 games but the X goes above and beyond.

Definitely gonna pick up a few of the Star Wars games, particularly KOTR but the star of the show for me is Panzer Dragoon Orta. I loved those games on the Saturn and this includes that original game albeit the PC version and Orta is one of the very best rail shooters ive ever played, also with Sega now on board how about Shenmue 2?

Watched the digital Foundry video of Red Dead and that is looking fantastic, I wish I'd have bought it when it was on sale recently. We can only hope Microsoft keeps up the good work and Sony learns from this for the future

The Division has just received quite a massive new update with added events and huge list of bug fixes but what’s better is that it has received an X enhancement patch which includes 4K rendering, higher anisotropy, improved reflections, improved object detail and improved screen-space shadows. Happy about that seeing as I’ve just picked up the Gold Edition in the Easter sale and yet to play any of the dlc.