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Tasuki

@carlos82 Yeah alot of people over looked it which is easy to do. I don't know what the reason is but for some reason it didn't get the push like KotOR did, Mass Effect or Dragon Age but it does have a following. In fact it puzzles me as to why Jade Empire never got a sequel although given the state of Bioware now I would be afraid that it would end up being something like Mass Effect Andromeda and just be trash.

I honest had no clue about the game until a few years ago myself when I bought an original Xbox just to play KotOR. I finished that and was looking up other original Xbox exclusives when I found saw people going on and on about Jade Empire and how good it was so I decided to check it out and it didn't disappoint.

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BAMozzy

May's Games with Gold. MGSv was given as a PS+ IGC game and I had no interest in it then either. Vanquish as a BC game though is the only game I am interested in. Rumours are that a sequel was in production as a MS exclusive (maybe timed or just a false 'rumour') but its the only one I will add.

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JohnnyShoulder

I doubt a sequel for Vanquish would be a MS exclusive after they dumped Platinum for fecking up Scalebound...

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NecuVise

I doubt MS would try having such adventure with Platinum Games after Platinum screwed them over Scalebound so hard.

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BAMozzy

@JohnnyShoulder @NecuVise I am only stating the rumour https://wccftech.com/vanquish-2-xbox-one-exclusive/ - Industry insider Marcus Sellars recently posted a message on Discord revealed that Vanquish 2 is indeed in the works as an Xbox One exclusive game. Nothing else has been said about the matter, but it’s unlikely that it will be directed by Shinji Mikami, as he has left Platinum Games to run his studio, Tango Gameworks, the team behind The Evil Within series.

https://gamerant.com/vanquish-2-xbox-one-rumor/ - Like with any video game rumor, it’s important to take this claim with a grain of salt. Even though Sellars has been accurate in the past, he has offered no evidence to back up his claims that Vanquish 2 is in development in any form. Having said that, if Vanquish 2 is coming to Xbox One as an exclusive, it wouldn’t necessarily be all that surprising.
After all, Microsoft already has an established relationship with Platinum Games. Until its cancellation, Microsoft was producing Scalebound with Platinum Games, which was being positioned as a major console-exclusive. While Scalebound never finished development, it still helped to form a connection between Microsoft and Platinum, which could have opened the door for other collaborations.

Just to prove it wasn't something I made up...

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NecuVise

@BAMozzy it feels to me like you are trying to defend yourself, and there's just no need to do that, as I wasn't attacking you or something like that, I was just expressing my thoughts on the subject. I didn't even cross my mind that you were lying or something like that.

It would be an interesting development, and I would like them to succeed, but it just looks too strange to me.

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carlos82

I played most of Metal Gear Solid V on the PS4 so I'll likely add it but probably never get round to playing it. Vanquish is one of those games I always wanted to play but never got round to so I'll definitely be giving that a go and I always liked the Streets of Rage games.

To be honest I'm struggling to keep up with
excellent bc games such as Witcher 2, Conker, Panzer Dragoon Orta and then Red Dead Redemption, all the while replaying the magnificent Witcher 3 and experiencing it's DLC for the first time.

Damn you Microsoft with all of your bc 4k goodness

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FullbringIchigo

@KratosMD i have that on the PS2 and if i remember the camera controls were stiff on that version too

might just be how it was back then

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BAMozzy

@KratosMD Camera controls have greatly improved in general so its not surprising that games of that era are 'clunky' or stiff by comparison. At the time, these things weren't so much of an issue because they were the 'norm' or even 'better' than other games of that time. I remember going back to Goldeneye after playing games like CoD4 and can't believe how poor the Aiming was when aiming down sight with a sniper for example - yet that was 'amazing' at the time because it was 'unique' on console. As amazing as Super Mario 64 was, the camera was poor and you could rotate it but only in 90 degree intervals. max Payne was only 5yrs and a console 'generation' later but you also have to remember that 3D gaming like this was also only 5yrs later too. Developers were still getting to grips with developing games in 3D, creating 3D worlds and writing stories too.

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Splat

I'm mildly interested in State of Decay 2. Any of you guys play the first one? I never did. I would have to get on PC since I don't have an X-Box.

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NecuVise

@Splat I played the first one one Steam and enjoyed it a lot. It's a little rough around the edges but after you get used to the game in the first few hours, it gets so interesting and unique. I believe the second one will improve on it and it will be at least as enjoyable as the first one.

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FullbringIchigo

sometimes i love working at a supermarket

i just got DOOM, Battlefield 1, Tomb Raider Definitive Edition and Rise of the Tomb Raider all for the XB1 at £1 each as it's unsalable stock because they have no cases or documentation

bloody brilliant ^_^

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@Tasuki That is quite common here in the UK, from my experience though they don't usually stock the greatest range of titles and are usually just the latest chart titles.

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FullbringIchigo

@Tasuki yeah but i think they are stopping soon, at least my store is

@JohnnyShoulder true but like i said they was old stock with no cases so they couldn't sell them to the public and there was a huge pile of about 50 games there but i only had a fiver on me

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@FullbringIchigo A lot of Supermarkets will still sell Video games - maybe not in-store but online. Tesco Direct for example still sells Video games and takes pre-orders. Poundland (now incorrectly named as a fair few products now cost more than £1) sells video games too - limited selection and 'old' stock but you may find the odd bargain if you missed these releases.

I have seen Supermarkets sell off games without official boxes and or paraphernalia that comes with them. Often the take the game out of the case for display and some 'idiot' steals those boxes (maybe for some cosmetic DLC code or because their box/code was damaged/used) and so the supermarkets are left with just the game. Therefore they sell the games off cheap rather than lose money completely. It may not matter to some that the game doesn't have a box or come with any 'codes', but I could never buy these. It messes too much with my OCD as I like to see my games collection grow with the 'official' boxes and box art.

@Tasuki Doesn't Walmart sell Video Games? Isn't that a supermarket? Supermarkets here don't just sell 'groceries and household cleaning products' but also clothes, TV's and other electronics inc Beauty, mobiles etc. It does depend on the size of the store and these can vary from a 'small' convenience store up to a massive 'department' warehouse so it can depend on location but they also have online ordering with different 'departments' - like a grocery section, a clothing section or an electronics (that also include gaming) section.

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Tasuki

@BAMozzy Here in the US the word Supermarket pertains to stores that sell primary food items and household items like cleaning supplies, and paper products like napkins, paper towels, paper plates etc. They also sell stuff like pet food. Some my sell videos on Blu-ray and DVD but it's a small assortment mainly stuff like Disney movies or the latest Blockbuster like Avengers for example but that's only for a short amount of time not continuously like say an electronic stores.

Walmart is considered here a discount department store and not a supermarket, yes they do sell food in it but as you stated they also sell clothes, electronics, hardware such as tools, paint, sporting goods stuff you don't find in a supermarket at least here. Also with Walmart everything is in it's own department which is ran on it's own. As I said you have an Electronic Department, Sporting Goods, Men's fashion, Woman's fashion, Grocery Department etc. Also the grocery department doesn't have as much variety as say a Supermarket due to having a limited amount of space, where as a Supermarket is dedicated mainly to food.

Now Walmart does have Supermarkets that are called Walmart: Neighborhood Markets and those are Supermarkets, the don't have electronics or hardware or clothes just food.

But yeah here in NA Supermarkets don't sell video games. Only department stores, electronic stores like Best Buy and of course places like GameStop. I remember when I was a kid supermarkets did have a small area for renting games and movies but when video stores died so did those and now you have Redboxes in their place. Now Redbox does sell games but as you know that's separate from the store.

Hope that was easy enough to understand.

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@Tasuki I understand - but here in the UK, our supermarkets are like Walmart - in fact Walmart own Asda here. Thet can range from a 'small' convenience store all the way up to a 'department' store. Some sections do have their own department - depending on the store and you can just purchase from that department and some departments may only sell those items in that section - for example if they only have the game boxes on display, then you may have to buy in that department because they have the games there - not at the main cashier.

As I said though, it does depend on the size and location of the store as some may only sell groceries and household products (inc Paper towels, lightbulbs, cleaning products etc) but the main ones (Tesco, Sainsbury, Asda) also sell electronics (inc Games) as well as kitchen, beauty, etc, Kitchen goods (cutlery, plates, cooking/baking utensils etc), have their own clothing labels and shoes, sell furniture and home furnishings, sporting goods, have their own mobile networks (although these are piggybacking on a mainstream network), have there own pharmacy, offer financial services - like loans, credit cards, home insurance etc as well as offering services like Gas/electric supply too.

Online shopping with these do tend to separate things up a bit and you often have to order from separate departments - for example if you want some 'clothing' with your groceries, you may have to make two different orders and get two different deliveries but if you go to a bigger supermarket, you can probably get all of these in one place. The size of the store tends to determine what products they sell and how much of their 'full' range (whether clothing, mobiles, TV's etc) they have in that store.

Anyway, if you hear 'supermarket' from a UK person, think Walmart which, like our Supermarkets, does have smaller stores like the Neighbourhood Markets but can also be like your 'discount department stores' too. Its mostly the out of town or Mall stores that are the big department stores with the smaller ones around for 'convenience' - those that may not want to travel 'miles' for the pint of milk and/or loaf of bread. Most (if not all) department stores in the UK don't sell 'groceries' - that's the main difference in the UK.

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Tasuki

@BAMozzy Ok I see what you're saying. It's very interesting. Yeah we have Department stores here too like Sears, Macy's, J.C. Penny's and those dont sell food at all. They mostly sell clothes but do have electronic, home furnishing, hardware, hardware etc. but as I said no food. Those are practically dead here though as places like Walmart, Target offer more variety in goods and better prices, in fact my local Sears is closing this July. As I said before Walmart and Target is what we call discount department stores.

I am not sure why places like Sears don't sell food and Walmart does or why Safeway (a Supermarket chain here) don't sell video games. It might just be a culture thing as that what American's are use to or some kind of law or tax purpose.

But yeah in the end here in the US Supermarkets are food stores primary, Safeway, Kroger's etc. and places like Walmart, Target are discount department stores and then places like Sears, JC Penney's are department stores.

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@Tasuki Our department stores don't sell food but they do sell the high-end and big brand products - and that includes clothing, electronics etc. Our supermarkets may well sell clothes but these are on the lower end of the price scale - not necessarily cheap but their own lower cost compared to the more expensive branded products you see in department stores. Its the same with a lot of their other products they sell so they are not necessarily in direct competition with the 'department' store. If you wanted say branded footwear, you don't go to a supermarket. Its ok for everyday or your basics but if you want something 'better', you go to department stores or specialist retailers. Department stores here are like having a 'Levis' store, a Nike store, a Apple store a toy store, a bed store etc all under 1 roof - not necessarily on 1 floor either where as a Supermarket could sell all the same product and 'occasionally' may have a certain Levi, Nike etc product for sale but generally will sell their own 'cheaper' version of these - like the shops own version of Heinz or Cadbury product. Some products they don't make their own version of - like mobiles for example but they do have them on their own 'network' or PAYG on others.

Supermarkets and Department stores are more likely to kill off the small separate and/or independent stores rather than compete with each other because they are aimed at different markets. There is some cross-over of course like buying some big name after-shave/perfume in either but you will be much more limited on choice in a Supermarket (even the very big ones) and if you are after a specific one, then the department store will certainly offer it. If you want a pair of Levis/Wranglers rather than some 'no name' brand jeans, a pair of Timberland boots instead of some generic boots, you don't go to a Supermarket but can get those in a department store.

As others have said, the games (if sold) are more likely to be the current top 10-40 (depending on store size) with a few older, cheaper games that they may have had from when they were popular or happened to be a 'bulk' supply/surplus stock. If you wanted a specific game that may have been popular 6months ago, it may not be available in your local/preferred supermarket but could be in another but its still luck if you find one - its more for current games and impulse buys rather than the place to go for a specific title.

I hope that clears things up anyway. The big difference is that department stores don't sell groceries etc and are more 'high-end' and with better branded/label products. Even if they have their own brand products, they are more high end too rather than 'budget' and comparable to the more well known better brands.

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