Topic: Official Push Square Xbox Thread

Not a great month from my perspective....

Yep figured we get a bad month since we got a good one last month. I think it's an written law that they can't have two good months in a row. 😂

I don’t think it’s too bad this month, I played the trial version Prison Architect and I enjoyed it, not sure about others but I’ll still download them and give them a go.

If you are going to make a 'custom' console - then this is the way to do it!! Much better than changing the colour only and having a 'sticker' logo/graphic.....

@BAMozzy I want one

I'm trying to decide which console to get Shadow of the Tomb Raider on. I have an original PS4, and an Xbox One S.

I definitely want HDR, and I believe that the PS4 disc will give me that when running on an original PS4, but I can't seem to find out whether HDR for this game will be available on Xbox One S, or whether it will be restricted to Xbox One X only?

In terms of the 4K upscaling, both versions will be upscaled to 4K but potentially in different ways. With the original PS4, the only option for upscaling is to let my LG OLED55B7V do it. With the Xbox One S, I have a choice as to whether the console does the upscaling or the TV does it.

Does anybody have a view as to which upscaling method is "better"?

Moving on to the sound options, Dolby Atmos would be a nice to have as my TV supports it. I believe that the Xbox One version of the game will give me that when running on an Xbox One S, but the PS4 version will not when running on a PS4 original.

Basically, if the Xbox One version gives me HDR, upscaling options (via the console settings) and Dolby Atmos when running from an Xbox One S then I'm going for that version.
Otherwise it'll be the PS4 version as the HDR is the most important feature for me.

@JimbobLink Both the PS4 and Xbox One S should support HDR but as you said, the S will support Atmos IF the game has it - not that a TV can give 'true' Atmos as it doesn't have the speaker set up anyway and really only beneficial if you have an Amp and speaker set up capable of delivering Atmos.

As for upscaling, I would imagine that both the TV and Xbox would be decent at upscaling. Whether you can detect any difference or not at 'normal' viewing distances though can be tested with 'any' game on your X just by setting the output to 1080p. Its only worth looking at the Xbox version when doing this test though because the 'source' (ie the actual game itself) will be running at exactly the same resolution and visual settings in both cases. I would imagine though that the PS4 version would be better - whether its higher resolution, better visual settings, better frame rates or combination of these. If you are thinking about 'upscaled' image quality, the PS4 is more likely to be starting at a 'better' point than the Xbox version.

Rise, for example (not counting the first as that was built for last gen - but the definitive ran at 30fps on Xbox but 60 on PS4 for comparisons) ran very similarly to the Xbox version BUT had higher quality visual settings better shadows. The Xbox isn't as strong with its GPU but does have a better CPU - faster anyway - than the PS4. No doubt visually, the PS4 will be better equipped for Shadow too.

If I had just a PS4 and Xbox One S, I would almost certainly be buying the game on PS4 because I would expect that to deliver a higher visual presentation and/or performance. Audio - especially if you are relying on TV speakers, would not factor in to my decision making. I would take 5.1 through an Amp and speaker set-up over Atmos through TV speakers every time.

I am getting the Xbox version myself because I have a Project Scorpio 'X' and Rise was significantly 'better' than the Pro version but like I said, if I had the base hardware, then I would probably be looking at the PS4 version - or at least waiting on a DF breakdown to see what differences either console version had.

@Kidfried @BAMozzy Thanks both. From what you've both said, it seems like the PS4 version will likely be the way to go. As I have Rise on both consoles, I'll do some of my own comparison tests to see which one comes out better. I won't get HDR or Atmos from Rise on either of those consoles, so in that sense it will be a fair comparison.

The reason I question the Xbox One S HDR is because not every game that supposedly has HDR will output it from the S. For example, Forza Horizon 3 does but Minecraft does not (I think the HDR is tied in with the 4K graphics update for the X), and neither does Rise.

If I had the Xbox One X, then it would be a no brainer to go for the Xbox One version of Shadow.

The Atmos sound from the LG OLED is excellent by the way, and I find myself using that more than my 5.1 setup now.

Not a great month...

I have NO interest in Overcooked, Victor Vran looks OK - A Diablo 3, Van Helsing type isometric game and of the 360 titles Hitman: Blood Money is the standout as Stuntman was mediocre...

It could be worse of course but I don't think its a 'great' month!

@BAMozzy the PS4's lineup is pretty poor this October too but at least it has a horror themed game on there for Halloween

@BAMozzy You should try out Overcooked if you have someone to play it with. It's quite a lot of fun, but frustrating at times as well — in a good and enjoyable way.

@FullbringIchigo I couldn't care less to be honest. Halloween is just 1 day (or more like 1 night) and that's the very last day of October too. Friday 13th may well be a 'orror' game but its not a 'Halloween' horror as that's not even the right day. As a game, its also mediocre and died pretty quickly after launch - its also not that dissimilar from Dead by Daylight too - which was probably better without the 'Friday 13th' license.

Given the choice between PS+ and GwG this month, GwG would certainly be my preference - however, as I don't have to choose as I have access to both, I certainly won't be adding any of the PS+ offerings and I have a lot of new games to keep me busy as well...

@BAMozzy I have to wonder what is going on with MS. They usually have a great month with GwG but the last few have been bad. They must have got someone new in charge of GwG or something

This month isn't bad and I'd gladly swap it out with psplus.
Besides, they have gamepass now, so I reckon publishers are more likely to put their games on gamepass than games with gold.

@NecuVise I agree about Plus. I'd rather have overcooked and Blood Money than anything in the Plus line-up. I'd consider a decent month for Plus if we had it.

@Jaz007 Victor Vran would at least give some condolences to that diablo 3 rumor and I'd like to play it.

@NecuVise Whilst its not as bad as PS+, also helped by the BC XB360 games of course, its still not a great month. Had PS+ offered the rumoured Diablo and Nioh, that would be a great month and then GwG would look very mediocre comparatively. Maybe the fact that PS+ is actually worse, makes MS's appear better but its still not a 'great' month.

@Tasuki Since Game Pass, especially since MS added their exclusives available on launch day, the GwG games have certainly been quite lacklustre. Not counting the 360 games, which maybe old but are often AAA classics (unlike Sony's PS3 offerings), but the actual XB1 games have seemed to drop in quality and value since March time. It will be interesting to see a comparison between 2017 and 2018 - in terms of value (RRP of games) - to see whether or not we are getting less. Obviously AAA games tend to be more expensive but also games that tend to catch the eye and excite more people when it comes to PS+/GwG announcements. Indies may well be more niche, may well offer more variety, but don't necessarily have the impact of AAA titles. Until Game Pass came, MS were certainly offering more AAA XB1 releases.

@BAMozzy I'd be glad to get overcooked and Victor Vran, but to each their own I guess.

@NecuVise I guess it comes down to perception. I also never said it was a 'bad' month, just not a great month. If PS+ had offered Nioh and Diablo, as the rumour suggested, then the Xbox XB1 games would have been seen as lacklustre by comparison. Overcooked, whether you like it or not, is a mobile style game - something you may also find on Facebook. Victor Vran is a Diablo 3 clone in a lot of ways too - one of the reasons I will add it to my collection - but neither are high profile or likely to be seen as a desirable as getting a big AAA blockbuster. Its more about the calibre, the profile and general perception of the games on offer more than the games themselves. A 'great' month would be high profile, high rated AAA games where a 'bad' month would be a couple of mediocre, niche indie titles that a lot of people weren't even aware existed.

From my point of view, I will add VV to my collection which is more than I will add from PS+ so its not as if I won't benefit from being a Gold subscriber this month. I don't subscribe to gold or PS+ specifically for the free games and well aware that the RRP of the games, if I were to buy, are worth more than I pay for Gold - Gold is also cheaper than PS+ and that's also not including the AAA BC XB360 titles we get. I see these more as a 'bonus' for being a subscriber but that doesn't mean that some months are better than others, some bonuses are actually bonuses I want and will benefit from where as other months may be like getting no bonus at all because nothing appeals.

I know you say you are glad to get these bu I also bet you can think of other games that would elevate the month from being 'OK' to great. Its not a big deal to me, just passing on the information to others here that may not be aware of what next month's free games are. I will be too busy to play these any way with Spider-Man, Destiny Forsaken, Tomb Raider, Assassins Creed, Forza Horizon 4 and RDR2 all fighting for my attention. As such, these won't get a look in at all - but then neither would a LOT of high profile AAA games had they been offered instead.

@BAMozzy overcooked certainly isn't a mobile style game which you would find on Facebook, whether you like it or not. It may be your preference to not like that kind of a game but it's a very good game which thankfully got a sequel and both of them got high praises.

If you care about perception of the game then that's your problem not game's. Nioh is also dark souls clone. diablo 3 is a 6 years old game. Perception as you say.