Topic: Super Mario Odyssey -OT-

This game is great. I don't really agree with the complaints that this is more of a collectathon than 64 was. It might feel that way because there's no quest screen like there was in 64, but a lot of the objectives are quite similar. For example, that sheep one in the Sand Kingdom is pretty similar to the baby penguin one in 64.

And a lot of the ones in 64 involved fighting bosses or running around just searching for them, or platforming to them. Same thing in Odyssey in a lot of cases. I'd say the games are more or less the same in this area.

Plus, everything else about the game is so much better, as you would expect from a game made so many years later. Any flaws are pretty forgivable due to how great the game is as a whole.

@KirbyTheVampire Spot on. While some moons are just kind of stumbled across, most of them feel like proper rewards, so it's really like Mario 64 if it didn't kick you out after you got a star. Although moons seem to occupy some weird middle ground between stars and korok seeds.

Played a bit more tonight with my son, we finished up the second world tonight which I had fun with. So far this is shaping up to be one of my favorite games this year.

I've been playing this most of last night and spent a lot of time in the first few worlds. What I like is the lack of pressure - the whole things is pretty chilled out. You can just collect enough moons pretty easily by following the obvious clues and proceed or you can investigate and play around with the world. I don't feel pressured to do either which I really like.

@KirbyTheVampire Like @Ralizah said, Moons are a bit more like Korok Seeds, or perhaps Blue Coins if we want to use a Mario analogy, in that they're not always as rewarding to find. I mean, knowing the total amount of Moons in the game, I can safely say they're more numerous than all the Power Stars, Shine Sprites and Blue Coins of previous 3D Mario games combined. So in a way it's more of a collectathon than the previous games. Some are rewards for an objective, like they were in previous games, but most are just hidden collectibles.

@Octane That is true, but a lot of the stars in 64 were basically found in the same way as a lot of the moons in Odyssey. Like that one where you swim into the pirate ship and open a chest, or jump into the volcano and platform to it. The moons do seem more like hidden collectables because there's no quest screen to give you a hint as to where they are, and a lot of the time you do just happen upon them, but I wouldn't say actually getting them is any less complicated in a lot of cases. Sometimes it is though, for sure.

Still, I think people overestimate how complex the objectives in Mario 64 were. I think if all the stars in the various worlds in 64 were available to find right from the start, and there was no quest screen and the game didn't kick you out after finding a star, I think it would look extremely similar to Odyssey.

@Rudy_Manchego Same here. I find that when I play with my son we spend a good amount exploring but once we are ready to move on we do and can so quite easily, it's not like we can't if we don't find every moon in the level we are stuck there. And then at some point we will go back and explore some more.

@KirbyTheVampire True, I'm not questioning the complexity of 64, that's why I still prefer Sunshine to this day. However, apart from the one or two story Moons per Kingdom, you know, the bananas, most of them are optional and often hidden, and feel more like a collectible as a result.

@Octane Fair enough. I also would have liked more moons that were similar to the shines in Sunshine. While Odyssey is better in a lot of ways, I think Sunshine still wins in that area.

@KirbyTheVampire Playing Oddysey, I wouldn't mind a 64 remake with the same visuals (and the same content as the original, get that DS game outta here!).

@Octane Yeah, that would definitely be cool. I don't know if I'd buy it at full price, but I might for 30 or 40 dollars.

A Sunshine remake though, I would gladly pay full price for.

@Octane It was really disconcerting being forced to play several chunks of SM64DS as Yoshi.

@KirbyTheVampire Sunshine still looks good today, at least, better than 64. Controls have also aged more in 64.

@Ralizah Yeah it was, and the d-pad...

@Octane The game plays SO much better on a 3DS.

@Octane That's true, I just want it because I like Sunshine a lot more. Plus, for some reason older consoles look pretty bad on my new TV compared to my old one.

I want to get all the power moons on the first world (Cap Kingdom) before moving on, but i need new powers to get all of them, right? I've played only Cap Kingdom and the second world, maybe it's time to move on, even if i don't like to leave some power moons behind. -.-

Edit: Btw, the game is really awesome, it's really fun to control the T. Rex and use Cappy.

@PS_Nation Yeah, you cannot get everything on your first visit. You need to revisit the Kingdoms, and even then some Moons don't become available until post-game.

@Octane True, time to move.

How many power moons do you guys have already? I only have 32-35, i guess.
I bet that Octane already has 800. -.-

@PS_Nation 999. And its not under any circumstances worth it. You get 880 or so from just doing the checklist of objectives. You then need to grind over 10000 coins to buy your way up to 999 for a reward that is in no way worth it for all the tedium (Just like every other 3D Mario game actually hooray!).

Hell, the rewards for 880 moons is a bit crap too.

And 500.

Just beat the story.

@PS_Nation 700 something. Can't remember anymore!