There’s been an explosion on enthusiast forums over the festive period, as potential PlayStation 5 specifications have leaked. The source seems to stem from GitHub, where an AMD employee stored internal testing data from a variety of in-progress projects. These have since been confirmed as accurate by Digital Foundry, though could be outdated.
So, what do they reveal? Well, allegedly the next-gen device will sport a CPU featuring eight Zen 2 Cores and a GPU boasting 36 custom Navi compute units at 2,000MHz. It’ll also feature GDDR6 memory clocked at double the speed of the PS4 Pro. According to calculations, this pits the machine at 9.2 teraflops.
The interesting thing about this leak, assuming it’s all still accurate, is that it sounds like the Xbox Series X will turn in even more impressive specs – a reported 12.2 teraflops. This is contrary to rumours we’ve heard in the past, where speculation has suggested that both boxes are identical – with some insiders even giving the PS5 the edge.
One theory being posited is that Microsoft’s next console is targeting seriously hardcore gamers – and will have a premium price point attached. Sony’s system, on the other hand, sounds a bit more grounded, and is much more likely to hit that all important $399 price point. There’s also speculation that there’ll be a cheaper, less powerful Xbox Series X alternative for more cost-conscious consumers.
Ultimately, we’re going to have to wait and see until all the official details are out in the open. There’s much more analysis and speculation from Digital Foundry through the link, but the site ultimately concludes that we’ll need to hold out for official information as well. The good news is that we shouldn’t have to wait too long, as the PS5 will be on store shelves this time next year.
[source eurogamer.net]
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I just want to know what the exclusives are going to be for each console. I couldn't care less about which console has the most teraflops and nicest pixels.
Considering what I've seen squeezed out of the base Playstation which is barely 2 teraflops I'm more than happy to see what they can do with the PS5.
And people will claim that "power" is the most important thing despite games been the actual thing that matters.
@RBMango Agreed. If specs were my only point of interest, I'd never have purchased a Switch. Which was my favorite console of 2018, I should add.
Now would it be NICE if Sony would trounce MS utterly on the specs? Absolutely. But I'm still guaranteed to buy a PS5 unless Sony somehow utterly screws the pooch on a level hitherto unseen in this reality.
It also mentions several modes built in for backwards compatibility, this all seems pretty plausible as Microsoft are still rumoured to have a weaker version and they are still marketing series X as the most powerful console. If true it's not far off the gap between PRO and X and probably a bit smaller and as an owner of both there isn't a huge gap between them, with games like Death Stranding and God of War easily matching anything on the other system visually. Most importantly will always be the games and there is no doubt Sony are currently ahead in that regard and just imagine if they do manage to pull off full backwards compatibility with this thing
if it as many updates for stabity as ps4 then it will be more stable than any xbox
I just hope this thing loads games fast and gets most of it's games to 60fps. Some loading times on some PS4 games are unbearable, even with a SSD in my Pro. Not to mention the huge amount of games that barely reach 30 fps, if at all. Everything else is not so important to me.
MS can have all the power in the world but without the games it's just a paperweight. And I cant remember the last time I was interested in a xbox game.
Cheaper and will have better games and look amazing. Sounds like xbox comes out of the gate a lap down. Sony wws are some of the best in the industry.
@Nyne11Tyme. They are not some some of the best in the industry.sony wws is the best in the industry.word up son
I’M IN A FRENZY!
Eh, if worse specs than Xbox means it’s more affordable, I’d be more than happy with that. It’s not like I need an Xbox given the major exclusives will be on PC too.
If they Xbox has higher specs, it’ll be the price that decides if it’s a problem. If they’re both $500, problem. Xbox is $600 or more, then it’s not such an issue. If it’s $700, Xbox will be laughable. I’m not even sure how they plan to target hardcore gamers without any proven great exclusives for an entire gen. Even when they have a good studio it doesn’t turn or great, or gets cancelled.
Look at Insomniac with Sony versus MS, it’s real.
If Xbox gets down good exclusives, great. Better competition and I have a PC.
Also, if they have a lesser model the base specs on the lowest model will decide what games can really do gameplaywise, so that matters more. If they have a higher spec model, but their lower-spec is lower than PS5, Sony exclusives already have a little bit more potential, and we know Sony’s studios use all the power they can sometimes.
@JMills WHOOOWAWAHAWAAHHHGAAH
Mmmmmm... teraflops...
Sounds like MS are going all in with the series X, and the lower end model might be more directly competing with the PS5. I am sure after a couple of years Sony will launch a PS5 Pro to compete with, or beat, the series X.
It’s an interesting approach for MS to take, and one that could actually work out nicely for them. Sony are at an advantage going in, so what do MS have to lose by giving the consumer plenty of options. On balance the risk of confusing/alienating buyers is worth it for them I think.
9.2 TF is more than enough for WWS to reach photo realisic games next gen which is something they were realy close to with 1.8 TF console.
Depends on pricing. The power gulf between PS4 / base Xbone was primarily an issue because the latter launched at a higher price point to begin with. Pricing and especially launch lineup will have a bigger impact early on than raw power.
If the X1X is anything to go on More power wont matter. MS is literally compensating. But there's no way Xbox SeX will be cheaper than PS5 so
@swagbag713 ikr! The Horror! 😂
But according to Digital Foundry the navi GPU architecture cant really be measured in Teraflops like current gen can so it's not a good benchmark.
@JMills FRENNNNZZZZYYYY
Please god let this be fake! I won't be able to endure the xbots claiming their console is superior for years...
@playstation1995 u know what i meant. Unless something drastic changes im their motivations and business models i cant see Sony not being the clear front runner (again and again) for best place to play
This last generation showed us that no matter how much horsepower you give developers, they’ll still occasionally crank out unoptimized garbage that can’t even maintain a steady 30 FPS at 1080p!
And I’d like to say that graphics and power don’t matter, but I know full well from the PS3 days (those horrible ports!) and from PC gaming that when a game runs and looks better, it’s a whole different experience!
It's just a rumor and nothing is confirmed. DF doesn't know what they're talking about and they're now just another clickbait site that use fake rumor numbers to get clicks.
There is literally no specs confirmed for either the PS5 or Xbox Series X.
I think there was an interview with a MS spokesman recently that said that the next gen brand is just 'XBox', implying that the Series X is possibly one of a range of consoles. There's some stuff from AMD which implies a lower-spec XBox which may be positioned against the PS5 (Anaconda/Lockhart?).
I think it's unlikely MS would go all-in on a high price-point console after this gen.
This will make me get the xbox too, definite on the ps5 but I am a full on graphics tart so need this too...
@Neolit Not to mention that devs will have to target one console and port to the rest. With Xbox having 2 Skus with vastly different specs I see devs focusing on PSt and XBOX will be an afterthought.
@Neolit
It will be interesting if MS launch two SKUs in November 2020, say a Series S close to the rumoured PS5 specs and a Series X with a beefier GPU. As you say, how do you market them both effectively? What happens if Sony repeat their mid-gen refresh approach with a PS5 Pro 3 years later, possibly leapfrogging the Series X?
Hopefully we'll get some solid info in Feb/March.
The source of the leaks claims the PS5 chip doesn't have dedicated hardware for Raytracing despite being confirmed by Mark Cerny himself several months ago. I'm not buying these rumours at all, let's see what Sony brings to CES the next week, but I'm not sure if we'll get to see the PS5 there.
One theory is the leaked data maybe for testing BC. Anyway I dont see why it matters at this point. Nobody will see the difference between xbox and PS5 and ps5 might well be even faster with the SSD so..
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Yea sure, some people will still see some fog or blur on the horizon like haha
I don't care too much about power, of course I want more power but in the end the reason I want ps5 is to play new god of war, horizon zd, persona, and all of sony 1st party titles games. As long as the ps5 is worth it price wise (not pricey because unneedeed technology like ps3), I will be on ps5 launch day one 😃
Oh also, considering microsoft needs 1 year and $100 more to make a console that more powerful than the pro, I'm sure the new xbox will be way more expensive if it have better specs than ps5 since it's using the same company for the tech (amd).
Ahhh maannn, less flops!?! There goes Christmas 2020
Teraflops aren't everything in a system lol. Look at Xbox One S, it has about the same if not a bit less teraflops than the base PS4, yet it's far more efficient as a system than the base PS4 (and Pro, but I'll leave that).
It's about how well the CPU+GPU work together,
The number of threads, cores, cache and much more.
@carlos82 If it were "about the games," we'd all be on the Nintendo Switch. 😉
@Nyne11Tyme. I know.haha.i agree with you.word up son
Let the console war comments begin!
I don't know what all that jargon quite means, but I'll tell you this: no one is getting the PS5 for its power display.
@TomKnows I'll take it that you're joking. But if not...then it's clear you're delusional. Which is it? 😉
it's a bad thing all together. Another xbox one vs ps4 except this time they will switch around, you can expect ps5's games to run at lower fps and worse resoution... I am pretty sure it's going to be a case with lower performance. Otherwise it wouldn't have been this gen, but it was and it was painful to watch. I rather pay 100 dollars more but would have a console for longer than 2 years until they will be forced to make a revision.. or so called PS5 Pro.
@JJ2 xbox one and ps4 had barely noticeable difference in tflops, but difference in games was more than apparent. Of course it also comes down to cpu, but gpu alone made xbox one games to be capped at 900p all the way to 720p at the end of the cycle of most of the games, while promised 1080p were never realised. PS4 in other hand had like 0.3 tflop stronger gpu and it was capable to deliver higher res which is basically made it 1080p console and only res started to drop at the end of the cycle to like 900p when og xbox was dropping to 720p... Now we talking about 3tflops difference in just gpu terms. Yayks.
I really wish they'd release two versions from the getgo (base + pro). I'd definitely go for the pro version, but if they do it mid gen again, then I'll stick to the standard ps5 like I did with ps4.
@TomKnows Thanks for the laugh, man!
For me #1 requirement is portability, so Switch is going to be my primary device regardless.
#2 is backwards compatibility. So far all I heard are rumors on most fronts, other than official word from MS that any game that runs on XBO, even classic games, will run on the XBSX. If the PS5 can actually run any game, from PS1 to PS5, by just inserting a working disk, then the PS5 wins, period.
If both consoles match on that front, then my primary console will simplify be the one with the best remote-play implementation. Currently, PS4 sucks on my network unless I hook up a PS4 to Ethernet, something I can only do on my guest room.
PlayStation has the GAMES I want to play period. Second I look for the best value for my money! If Xbox is going to have a lot more power it going to cost a lot more also.
PS5 went from being a little more powerful than xbox sex to now being way weaker. LOL
@RBMango
Precisely. PS2 was weaker than the Xbox but that went on to sell the most consoles ever.
Games make the system. Not Teraflops and Pixels.
After the actual games the next important thing for me is how fast they load. I'm not that fussed about how pretty they can make a virtual tree look, especially if it takes an hour to load. The PS5 seems to be making a song and dance about that. Xbox seem to be focussing on the virtual trees.
@TomKnows I have a Switch and I've barely played it in the last couple of years, Mario Odyssey was the last truly great game I played on the system
To echo the sentiment above: I care about games, not raw power. XOX has had the power advantage over the Pro for a long time and nothing came off of it. As far as raytracing is concerned- I want all games to support HDR which is way more important to me. I'm currently playing RDR2 with HDR enabled and I am constantly getting blown away by the beauty of this game.
@RBMango Speak for yourself. Console power is an important prospect for a lot of consumers. Not that it's going to be a deciding factor on which console to purchase, but it's a good indicator of it's capabilities in terms of graphical prowess, and frame stability.
@Callmegil what? The Xbox One S has a much weaker GPU than the PS4 and the system is actually much less efficient these days owing to its limited esram setup which they ditched for the X
@dskatter The problem with that is, that the switch cannot port a vast majority of modern game releases, because it just does not have the power to support those games.
So, whilst people on here are screaming "Games > Power" in some sort of tribal chant, it doesn't detract from the fact that power is absolutely important. It defines technological progress, frame stabiity, resolution compability, and console longevity.
To say it's unimportant, is about as ignorant a statement someone can make. Now to say it "shouldn't" matter is subjective, but that's another discussion.
@Grindagger when were getting into the realms of power that these 2 will have I don't feel it's that important as both are well beyond what even the current Pro variants are capable of and will be a match for high end gaming PCs.
Looking through the history of console sales shows that rarely if ever does the most powerful console become the most successful. The Atari 2600 outlived 2 of it's own successors, whilst the hugely powerful Jaguar never got going, the primitive Gameboy fended off the Game Gear and Lynx despite them having colour screens and much more power. It was no contest between PS1 and N64, Then the Dreamcast launched with the biggest power gap we'll ever see and nobody bought it. PS2 was much weaker than Gamecube and Xbox whilst the Wii outsold PS3 and 360, even today we have the Switch which won't be far behind Xbox One's total sales if it hasn't already passed them. We even have the Pro and X which don't sell anywhere near as much as the base versions of the consoles.
So yes I would suggest that most believe games are more important than power
@Bamila
It's never been about Tflops and theoretical power it's always been about resolution. Its was about being able to deliver 1080p ant the xbox was too weak to deliver it. Then it was about delivering 4k and the Pro was too weak for it.
Now seriously, seriously.. do you think ps5 will be too weak to deliver 4k or are you planning to play in 8k?
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I cant believe so many people think 9TF RDNA is 'weak' give me a break haha
Like I said, the reality is the ps5 could end up being cheaper and actually be faster with the SSD. Resolution is locked in 4k for both.
Are Sony and Microsoft taking turns releasing the better console?
PS2 better than Xbox
Xbox 360 better than the PS3
PS4 better than Xbox One
Xbox X Series better than PS5...
I've always been more of a fan of Xbox bit the PS4 last time around had the edge so I got that instead. If this news/rumour is true then back to Microsoft and their superior online service I go.
hmm.. i met a guy in a long trench coat, face concealed by a fedora, in a darkened car park and he told me in hushed whispered tones that PS5 would have between 12-14 tflops.
@Enigk
I see what your saying but it's not even about prettier trees. It wont make a difference. It's about theoretical power and PR bragging.
i have a hunch that MS will make the Xb1X the base model of the X series, and position it as the basic Xbox model going forward. it was dropped by £100 for christmas, so i imagine it will be available next christmas for £250.. as a cheap upgrade from the basic xbox1.
also, these 'leaks' are 9 months old.. 36 compute units could be 48, or each could have a higher clock speed. PS4 was only supposed to have 4gb of RAM.. all the dev kits, and games built for the reveal used only 4gb. Until Cerny announced it would have 8gb at the PS4 event.
@carlos82 The thing is I don't necessarily disagree with all that you said.
I'm not saying Power is better than games, i simply said that power is still important, and it is....and here's why.
You've quoted historical differences in sales of consoles, whilst these may have proven to have been the case, I think today we're in a much more technologically savvy based consumer base.
Graphics, hi-fidelity, and resolution are all sought after components of what makes a modern gaming experience enhanced. With the explosion of 4k TVs, and talk of support of 8k in the near future, there is a clear, and growing demand for more powerful tech to satisfy customer demand.
To clarify further, I'm not saying it's the most important factor. Of course games, and gameplay are of paramount importance. But a lack of power ultimately only limits the content that device is going to be able to support.
Nintendo is really in it's own race, by itself, whilst it's competitive, it mostly rides off it's own coat tails in terms of the content it's putting out. A lot of them are Nintendo exclusives, or made by Nintendo themselves, with a smattering of much more limited versions of the Xbox/PS4/PC game releases.
If it were just a bit more powerful it would be able to handle a lot of current graphical quality games to hit the market, but it has sacrificed that for portability. It's really, in essence it's own market.
To summarize, my perspective is that games are the most important factor in anything, yes, but power is still relevant and a deciding factor for a lot of people these days. Particularly in these days.
@leucocyte
Already months ago, Komachi said ps5 achieves BC through disabling CUs and matching the clock speed. It's not new. However if that's the max CU and TF so what?
I've seen so many people overreacting, its beyond ridiculous..
having a load of power is a great thing to have in your console, but ps4 has delivered soooooo many captivating exclusive games for me that I'll be hitting ps5 regardless of what the specs are the most notable thing I'm looking for next gen is 60fps gaming in ALL games, which should be possible IF Microsoft start churning out some 'must buy' exclusives of their own then I'll take notice, but my xbox one has not been used much apart from some forza action
@JJ2 - well the 'leak' puts the number of shaders and compute units of the PS5 to be exactly the same as the PS4 pro, so it sounds a little bit fishy to me.. and even if it was legit, it might simply be nothing more than a backwards compatibility testing framework. the PS4 has 18 compute units, so half of them have to be disabled/inactive completely anyway, so there's no specific reason the PS5 would have to have the exact same config as the PS4 pro.
This just means Sony will have to do a PS5 Pro...
MS hasn't talked about it's cheaper base Xbox yet either.
This whole situation smacks of an 'apples vs. oranges' comparison.
Less powerful and probably less expensive than XBOX Series X. If that’s the case MS would be fools. Furthermore, PS4 is less powerful than XBOX One so... 🤷🏾♂️
Let's be honest here. Part of the early success of ps4 was the superior hardware and that all the multiplatforms were better on it. So this is a bit of let down if it's true.We all want the best performance/version of our games.
Of course, the solid cards of ps5 will be the exclusives and backwards compatibility but I like the (most likely)approach of Micro$oft to choose the base and pro model from day one.
Let's wait and see...
@dskatter lol loved the end game reference
@leucocyte
Thats what I think but I m not bothered either way. People just get caught in theoretical power contest for the sake of it without even any purpose to it
@AFCC how have you endured it all this time? I see them gloat all the time and just laugh. It doesn’t matter one bit lol.
@starbuck2212 Last one that even got my attention was Alan Wake.
It's not about the power, it's about what Sony's studios can do with newer, more modern hardware. What they're still getting out of a base PS4 in 2019 in impressive, I look forward to seeing what they'll pump out on PS5 and how long it will take. Eventhough Halo has dipped massively in quality it's still a big name so Sony needs at least one big AAA exclusive at launch.
People Relies 98% of pre Announced leaks are fake right?
Plus ps4 was less powerful on paper then xb1 and what happen. oh right yeah i remember they got ass kicked😂
Wouldnt the 'seriously hardcore' just use top PCs though, rather than consoles. I suppose Im not that hardcore myself, but Ive become so entrenched with PS4 that backward compatibility would be a big deciding factor in a potential next gen 'upgrade'.
@Neolit Is it that bad ouch yeah loading can be a deal breaker. Does it load one time on does it need too load different areas?
Just a thought, but could it be possibly that the 9.2 Tflops is true, but also the 13 Tflops rumour is true too? Maybe the 9.2 ps5 would be the base model at the same price that ps4 launched at, and the 13 Tflops one could be ps5 pro at launch too, with a premium price. I don't actually believe Sony would do this and is probably just wishful thinking of mine, lol
Yet people refuse to ascertain that "teraflops" doesn't necessarily equate to a good indicator for how powerful a system actually is, or by extension, where the bottlenecks are- which could be huge factors to do with CPU and GPU power draw, all the way to the obvious mainstay console issues regarding thermals and cooling.
One thing that is guaranteed, however, is that the PS5 off the bat isn't going to make the same mistake Xbox did with releasing an overpriced, disappointing, underpowered system with virtually no games or plans for game investment, plus a load of atrocious policies regarding DRM, always online conctivity, kinect etc. etc.
If rumours are to be believed, the PS5 has a strong exclusivity game and is set to repeat the success they achieved this gen with the sheer vast amount of quality games, indicating that upon release there will be more than a few titles Sony have cooked up justifying the system, hence their absence recently at various shows to work in their next system- because they quite frankly have already won this gen hands down.
Regardless, even 9 teraflops should be more than enough for stable 4K 60 FPS (minimum) based on the one X performance today, and definitely should be more than powerful enough for 1080p with higher FPS, possibly with even more effects and assets going on in-game, which would be nice. The thing to take away from it is that, unless they're targeting a kinda superfluous 8k with no higher quality assets, then there's really no point obsessing about a redundant numbers game that's purely pushing more pixels on screens that largely won't be supported and that the cosmer won't benefit from, even if they have a 8k TV at a conventional size (even 4k is kinda pushing it).
Lastly, to reiterate what I just said, it's about delivering a solid experience and not just over delivering on one aspect like hardware over investing in games and, more importantly, good games. Again, with competent and decent hardware this time round, it really makes no sense to obsess about hardware when you can expect stable true 4k at higher frames, regardless if the platform, plus a rumoured Rey tracing solution plus improved anti-aliasing.
I mean, as great as the one X is (in some aspects) it was also too little, too late for Xbox, acting merely as damage control for the Xbox one at launch, which doesn't make up for exclusives and the weak hardware on top of that; the policies were also the final nail in the coffin in what essentially was Xbox losing sight of what a console is supposed to be first and foremost, and still not delivering that later on post-backlash.
The hardware advantage the base PS4/ slim has over a one/ one s is still an important factor considering that's what the sales gap indicated, granted, however, people seriously should not underestimate how important exclusives are and how smart Sony have been playing it for a long time and with plans for next gen, extending all the way to developers working on something brand new.
Further, Sony marketing is geared for everyone, not just that niche "hardcore gamer" demographic- even if that is a stupid sentiment when you consider the majority gravitate toward playststion or PC. Again, everyone doesn't fall under that category and that's a pretty stupid tactic when trying to sell a iconic platform. Regardless, even with 9TF the PS5 is guaranteed to do a lot of things right still. With Sony having a solid reputation and record, Xbox should be very worried with stakes so high after their last flop. First and foremost, Xbox need to work in their exclusivity game because right now it's weak and pathetic; they really can't rely on the same fatigued and dying franchises unless they manage to do a God of war and refresh it with an entirely new identity- though Xbox never will andbhave never been known to do that, they really do need to work on games this time, not controllers
Just wanna end this by saying Xbox is obsolete if you own a PC, so it makes no difference caring about it or BS services if you care purely about hardware when you can get the same obsessive goal, if not better, on a PC with the same games and Microsoft services that the majority probably don't care about. Again, gotta respect playststion's no bs simplicity regarding games here.
@JudaiMasters This exactly. 60 fps standard (or higher) and an SSD are what is going to really feel next gen. The games will all look beautiful on any console regardless. I am curious about the audio capabilities too that seems to be being overlooked a little bit with these rumors.
OMG. Please! Some of these comments are like what???! I'm 47 and I love gaming. Just accept that the PS5 is going to be better than PS4, they'll price it what they feel is a viable business model, and the new XBox will also be powerful and have some great games too. I know money can be tight but I always save up and buy the new Sony then start saving and half way through a life cycle (3/4 yrs ish) buy the other console so you get chance to play the exclusives on both main machines. I've done this since buying the Sega Mega Drive. The latter consoles exclusives from the first few years are by then dirt cheap.
I will buy a console that has games with better graphics and visual fidelity.
Simple as that.
95% of games are multi platforms games and better visuals and higher fps are decisive factors for me.
DualShock controllers >>>>>>> Xbox controllers, so that settles which I’ll get
All these specs are irrelevant if the console has no good games on it though. So what if the new Xbox (whatever the hell it's called) might be faster than the PS5? It probably won't be noticeable anyway.
I go where the games i want are and PS has that, lets face it Horizon 2, God of War 2, Spider-Man 2 and Days Gone 2 are all happening for the PS5 and those are just the sequels. Xbox has some great games but other then Gamepass what tempted me it doesn't really have much i want beyond Gears and Forza, i would say Ori and Cuphead as well but i recently got a Switch and both are on that, all that said Hellblade 2 is something i'm bitter about being a XSX/PC exclusive.
As for power well as i've said elsewhere most of Sony's big Exclusives look better on the Base PS4 then MS's big Exclusives look on the X1X. I've been putting a lot of time also into my new Switch and while its no PS4 power wise it doesn't change the fact it has some amazing games what are up there with the best this Gen, also Switch is the only console soon to have all 3 Bayonetta games so that alone makes it the winner haha.
When any xbox fan starts piping up I just talk exclusives and that shuts them up. It ain't been a war for a long time and another box ain't gonna change that.
@darksoul77 cos thats all Sony fans have now 😂😂😂
@XoTruthHurtZoX and that's all we need
I honestly don't care if it is less powerful, I don't get PS for third party games. I get it for the exclusives, and they are still the kings.
@SaikoWaifu2003 VRAM Eh 😉.
I would expect it to have unified RAM.
Sony upped the PS4 memory from 4 to 8 GB after the specs for the XBone got revealed.
Similarly, MS changed the case design for the 360 late on (with slightly more dodgy results!) so last minute changes do happen.
something VERY important to consider (and many people are failing to do so) is the price point. IF true, which i am sceptical of, the xbox would have a slight edge in power, but that does not mean ps5 and xbox will both sell for the same price. perhaps the ps5 will be $100 cheaper and that is sony's strategy in limiting the power somewhat. we all know how this will turn out — sony will dominate the sales charts again and xbox will lose more market share. $100 is a big deal and the power difference is negligable in the grand scheme of things. personally, i hope both console are on par in the power department since it will add more value in the long run; that said, i would also be more than OK with a small hit to power if it means i can save myself $100. at the end of the day, i don't think anyone would notice a big difference in performance and fidelity, whether a machine is 9 teraflops or 12 teraflops. base ps4 is less than 2 teraflops and ps4 pro is only 4 teraflops and look at the incredible visuals we are getting out of it? if sony wishes to more than double the output with ps5 (to 9 teraflops), i think we are in good hands there. the question is: are you willing to spend another $100 for 3 additional teraflops which will presumably only give you minimal improvements in performance and fidelity?
@3Above loving the Xbox series x abbreviation 😂
The biggest problem with this leak is being missed by almost all the commentators. The "fact" that PS is being reported as pushing its GPU up to 2Ghz bad news. It will take a ton of power to run at that speed and create a load of heat. The main reason I do not use either our base or pro PS4s except for exclusives is they sound like jet engines compared to playing on PC or One X. At these speeds Navi will need a wind tunnel to keep it cool!
@Neolit Both to be honest.
Already decided that I will change from PS to Microsoft next generation. Nothing to do with specs.Mainly down to the fact that gamepass provides a great service with many games.
just like when they said the PS4 had 4GB of Ram DF have no clue like the rest of us only SONY know the full specs.
@hotukdeals l would put money on it you already play on Xbox by your posts this past year 99% was negativity so stop the fake stuff.
@Neolit Ah ok lets hope the BC is good so we can play it without or with less the loading.
Both consoles are supposedly identical hardwares but sony only pushing out 9 teraflops?? 🖕🖕🖕 pos sony I'm done with you and your magic sauce bs!! I'm not gonna wait for a ps5 pro that's stupid and ignorant of you playstation.
@LemonHaze your sexy!!!
@AhmadSumadi I have a guy that constantly trash talks PS4 on facebook and I swear I try to avoid confrontation but damn he is annoying.
these rumors is outdated because it was said no Ray Tracing by dedicated hardware chip. then Jim Ryan confirmed in his last speech there will be hardware RT. 9.2 is not enough even with SSD.
for people who said I don't care about spec c'mon don't laugh on your self without good spec u would never saw games like uncharted 4, God of war, last of us, Horizon zero dawn..etc on the ps4.
now all i want is a console capable of running ps4 games with 60 FPS and next gen games with 60 FPS. with that being said it's ok for some games to stick with 30 in 4K.
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