There are PlayStation fans, and then there are PlayStation fans. If you’re reading this, you probably fall somewhere in the middle; we’re guessing your interest in games expands beyond the next Call of Duty release date, but hopefully you’re not one of these social media nutters who attacks developers for including a shoddy tarmac texture in their latest AAA title.
The thing is, there’s a corner of Sony’s community that’s irate right now, and it’s been feeling this way for some time. Microsoft’s community engagement has been absurdly strong for several years, and while the Team in Green is still very much playing catch-up in almost every department, we reckon it’s left PlayStation aficionados feeling neglected.
The issue is a delicate one: the Japanese giant hasn’t been particularly forthcoming this year, even if it’s shared an unprecedented amount of information on the PlayStation 5 and hosted a string of State of Play broadcasts. For many, the latter hasn’t really filled the void left by press conferences at E3 and PSX – even today’s showcase, which included every rumoured reveal, has received a negative reaction.
We also get the sense there’s some insecurity in the community, too. Exclusive franchises such as Yakuza are starting to appear everywhere, but even Sony funded titles such as Death Stranding and Detroit: Become Human are being ported to the PC. And that’s not to mention last night’s MLB The Show news, which will see the manufacturer publishing on competing consoles for the first time.
There’s context that needs to be explored here, of course: Major League Baseball may have stripped Sony of the license if it didn’t agree to publish its baseball simulation elsewhere, and it stands to earn an obscene amount of money through Diamond Dynasty microtransactions. Similarly, auteur Hideo Kojima may never have agreed to create Death Stranding without the promise of a PC port.
But there are people who, perhaps unsurprisingly, believe that PlayStation is losing its identity – an identity which, let’s be honest, has been built on the strength of its exclusive games. But this is something that was foreshadowed by ex-Worldwide Studios boss Shawn Layden back in August, when he said that the organisation may need to lean into a “wider install base”.
It’s worth remembering what else he said, though: “We must support the PlayStation platform – that is non-negotiable.” In other words: Sony’s commitment to high-quality exclusive content has not subsided – it’s just expanding its horizons a little bit. The industry is changing, and games are riskier than ever to make – it doesn’t take a genius to understand why Predator: Hunting Grounds, for example, is coming to PC.
How will all of this affect the upcoming PS5? We’re ultimately going to have to wait and see. Microsoft publishes all its software on the PC, but there’s plenty of intrigue surrounding its own Project Scarlett. And it’s unlikely you’ll be able to play God of War 2 and Horizon: Zero Dawn 2 on any platform other than a PlayStation, but subscription services such as PlayStation Now could change that in time.
The thing is, as fans we need to embrace the changes, and see where they take us. Sony’s done things differently this year: some of it has worked and some of it hasn’t. Feedback is important, but some fans are coming across borderline insecure at the moment. Perhaps it’s time to take a break and see what the future holds – after all, there’s an all-new decade to look forward to right around the corner.
How do you feel about PlayStation as we move into a new year, decade, and, crucially, generation? Are you satisfied or concerned with Sony's efforts in 2019? Get it all out in the comments section below.
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I only feel insecure after all this doomtalk.
PS4 gets all of the big AAA releases (aside from the occasional Nintendo exclusive like Astral Chain) and has a large number of ambitious first-party titles coming out soon. Not sure what there is to be dissatisfied with.
Things are always quiet in that awkward space when one generation is ending and another is about to start. With that said, PS4's support is better than ever.
People really this angry over a baseball game not being exclusive anymore.
Bloodborne Kart and all is forgiven ;D
There are some exclusives - like MLB - which can easily go elsewhere, and it's no great loss. I'd argue they could do the same with Gran Turismo. Sports titles are big sellers and generate plenty of revenue. More platforms = more sales = more money = better games. Maybe even allowing Sony to eat some cost on future hardware and sell it at lower prices.
But I'm pretty sure Sony will hold on to its exclusivity for what I consider it's 'core' games... the Uncharted's, Horizon's, God of War, Days Gone... those which are more "uniquely PlayStation".
People need to get a bloody grip. There's plenty of amazing games releasing on the PS4 next year.
Big babies just feeling insecure about losing their "ha ha, we're getting it and you aren't" fanboi bragging rights.
Oh noes, another person gets to play the same game as me, my life is over, whatever will I do, boo hoo
As for the State of Play, well it was a carbon copy of last time, and last time I said they shouldn't' have 1 until they have PS5 news to release, so I'm not surprised at the reaction. I'm just glad I'm smart enough to realize they weren't going to have anything new in this one, it was going to be just like the last one, until they are ready to talk about PS5, so I wasn't disappointed.
Fans are called fans for a reason though, gotta expect the disappointment, and the outcries, best just let them mope in peace until more PS5 news gets them excited again.
If I have an idea, and I share it with one person, did I lose my idea? No, there are now two. If I share it with the internet did I lose anything? No, the idea has spread but I still have mine. It's the same with console exclusives. If I enjoy Days Gone and then it becomes available on other platforms, does that somehow diminish my enjoyment of the game? Of course not, why would it? If anything I should be happy that a wider audience gets to experience the same thing. Then we have more to talk about and share.
Get a life you bunch of spoilt children.
I miss the way Sony used to do stuff to. They've been quite really for almost two years now. My only hope is that all this quite was them preparing amazing launch titles for the PS5, but that's TBD. If they fail to deliver on launch games Itll be the first time I pass on getting a console at launch. I'll wait for the good sp exclusives to start coming before I buy one.
"The thing is, as fans we need to embrace the changes, and see where they take us."
Not all change is for the better, so I don't really feel we should embrace any change. That said, change will happen whether we want it to or not. Leaving feedback is the only thing we can do if we dislike the direction that it is going. It is times like this where I am glad I have all the major console because I can always leave to another console if need be if Sony really do seem to not listen to feedback.
However, I do not feel Sony are at that point. Not by a long shot. I still think they have had a pretty good generation and the PS5 has a disc drive, and I am confident that Sony will still have games worth buying their console for, so I am fine with them right now. The State of Play we just had would probably have been better received by fans if it wasn't for all the leaks as there was some good info (release dates for dreams, and reveal of RE3).
I bought an XB1 this year. Sony have dominated my bedroom (and now I'm older living room) since PS1. Nobody can argue the success of the PS4 and first party titles this generation but MS have performed a wonder stroke that can't be ignored.
PSNow may have the market share. PS+ may have the most engagement but Gamepass has the good will of consumers and I'm on that train now too.
I don't like the XB UI compared to PS4. Games look better on my PS4 than my S. However I played Resi 4 in GP and bought Resi 2 on XB just because. I may buy Resi 3 on there too. I played Guacamelee 2 on GP and bought the DLC on XB. I've got over £30 worth of MS points and bought games for my XB.
I hate to say it but with all of FF coming to GP next year I may even wait for FFVII on XB too.
MS are doing great. Sony need to take notes with new consoles coming soon.
Microsoft could change the state of play.
They could build a console with a windows os ........Game over Sony.
I think your making the same mistake as this vocal minority : generalisation
Since Jack Ryan is in charge I feel PlayStation has been more communicative, more competitive and ideally coming into the new gen
@avenovah that's funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8YRA-GVufI
@avenovah
I liked the guy from ps4 launch that kept saying 'its over' haha
Lol @ people getting irate. Its abit over the top isn't it! I missed SoP this time, but it seemed to have been a decent enough show. Not sure what people expect. Sony have always been honest about what to expect
At this point it feels like the only way Sony could have made people happy would have been to show off PS5. Which they categorically said they were not going to do.
I dont disagree with the content of this article though. Sony need to get their comms back on track. They sailed from PS3 to PS4 on a similar wave of popularity that xbox is currently enjoying. They had simple messages around the exclusive software, initiatives like the instant game collection, and of course the non pateonising reveal of ps4.
Over the past couple of years with gamepass, studio aquisitions, cross-play etc etc, xbox have played many cards right.
But sony has always continued to deliver the software. I do have concerns their grip on the mid-tier exclusives that have always stood them apart are being lost.
Ok MLB is clearly due to MLB saying our way or the high way regarding the licence, and quantic dream/detroit/their next release being multi-platform is due to that developers purchase.
But i am concerned about the loss of exclusivity for titles like Yakuza, Ni no kuni and now things like the Ys and Trails of Cold Steel games. They are the titles that have always bridged the gap between AAA releases and set Playstation apart.
And allowing microsoft to get the jump on devs like double fine, obsidian and ninja theory is concerning.
Unfortunately the world is changing however. Gaming is a business at the end if the day. And in order to get more games we are used to, devs and publishers need to get their content out in front of more people. Expect to see much less exclusivity in the future.
But if that means we finally get the likes of cuphead on playstation, i suppose we cant complain too much!
Sony is right in the middle of the spot, not like nintendo where's every exclusive they have is trully exclusive, but not like xbox either where's they don't have exclusive anymore (even halo & gears is on steam now).
But I want sony to be forthcoming about the exclusivity of their games rather than making their fans thinks some game is exclusive but it turn out there's pc version like DS (or like xbox with rise of tomb raider fiasco). I want sony to be honest about the exclusivity of the games, like for example ff7 remake is clearly stated it's 1 year exclusive to ps4.
In the end I think that depends on the games, big huge AAA titles that make people buy playstation console like horizon zd, spider-man, tlou, and god of war isn't going to be multiplatform, but sport games, multiplayer games, and indie will be coming to other platform.
Honestly, the ‘big’ games for me are all third party at this point (TLoU2 does not appeal at all). Therefore, since they’re third party, I could get them on PS4 or PC and that just depends on the type of game and whether I want to play it on the TV or not. I think Sony are running a fine line between hype for PS5 and genuine frustration from fans due to all the secrecy. The PS5 reveal needs to happen soon in order to build up hype generated by actual confirmed games and hardware, not 3D renders and leaked devkits.
I don't understand the fuss, as far as I can see all of Sony's own exclusives are still exclusive and even of your playing them on PC via PS now you're still paying Sony to play them. Whilst even the third party games aren't going elsewhere until long after we've played them and what's the worst that can happen? Somebody with different box under their TV gets to play the same game as you?
As for the state of play, I thought it was good, we got a date for Dreams, that Goose game seems pretty popular and but for the leak that Resi 3 reveal would have been amazing.
Are you telling me that any Playstation fan is upset with the recent MediEvil remaster, Death Stranding, Star Wars and then the upcoming Dreams, Final Fantasy VII remake, Resident Evil 3 remake, Cyberpunk, The Last of Us 2 and then Ghost of Tshushima? I'd say they weren't very good fans
People need to relax. All PC does is create a longer revenue stream. And the dates never have parity. If playing a game a year after its released on PC is losing its identity then people need to check their expectations. As for MLB...thats just more money for SWW Studios to allocate. Things are changing and evolving. I for one dont see anything but good times for the rest of this gen and next
Don't really know what people are moaning about. Have a glass of wine, put some Billy Joel on, and chill out you maniacs.
@Ken_Kaniff ps4 launch was slim...did you buy that day 1? For Shadowfall, Knack2 and ports?....i did but my expectations were in line
@nessisonett if PlayStation fans are frustrated then what would Xbox fans be right now? No dev kits (or very few) in the wild. Still developing for xbox1 as the base console EVEN once Scarlett hits and next to nothing in the exclusive department. I think Sony is doing fine and lots have unrealistic expectations
@Nyne11Tyme Yeah MS haven’t shown off Scarlett much but Game Pass is the single best value for money service in the industry right now. Xbox fans are basically getting AAA games for next to nothing and Sony are in a dangerous position. If Scarlett is cheaper than PS5, it could give Sony the impression of the ‘premium’ choice like what happened with PS3.
I do understand the value of console exclusives. I also still see games that get a PC release as exclusive.
Why?
Those PC releases are really only going to be bought by PC enthusiasts. The games getting released on PC's can't run on a basic laptop or 2-in-1 that the majority of people own (or probably don't own because those people have tablets/phones that do basically the same thing).
So, the best place to get these games is to either pay $300 - $400 for a console, or $1000+ on a capable gaming PC. I am pretty sure the majority of people are going to go with the cheaper console option.
Bottom line: PC releases don't devalue Sony's console as it's the better bang for the buck. The games are console exclusives.
Streaming may change that, but I still don't see that being a majority share of interested gamers. Plus, it would still require a PlayStation Now subscription - again not devaluing the PlayStation brand.
@Number09 I try to get away from Windows why would that be a plus having Windows on a console? More expensive slower?
lets be patient and wait till feb for ps5 reveal do it all at once. Have a big bang event man. I just dont like the fact they dont move things to summer
@GamingFan4Lyf Could not say it better myself. 😃👍
These games arent a big loss to sony . Sony will get more studios and more exclusives
One thing I see this generation is many of the games release first on PS4, but without any exclusivity deal (at least that we know): Nier: Automata, Ni-Oh and even the latest Yakuza games were on PS4 first.
I think the strategy in many of this games were to development on the console with biggest player base, and later port the game to other platforms. After all, even with similar architectures, developing for two consoles at the same time requires more resources.
I don't give a damn about other fanbases. If they don't want to buy a PS to play PS games than "blank" 'em. Its that simple.
Hahaha, OMG! People really getting worked up over nothing. Sony does some stuff- uproar. Sony doesn't- uproar. I can't say I see the point of this article. It only fans the flames of these so-called fans. Keep calm and carry on! Nothing to see here.
@nessisonett i cant argue gamepass value...but have you seen the titles MS recently acquired devs are working on? They sure dont scream AAA by any means. Both Ninja Theory and Obsidian are making MP focused titles. And the fact that the current Xbox1 specs are baseline for all development how do they plan to compete woth games purely made for PS5...how do 3rd partys devs do that? I sure hope ps5 3rd party titles arent held back because they need to play on a base Xbox1
@rjejr That'a not it at all. People bought the console to play certain hames as you are suppose to. That's the whole point. People spent their money to make these hames successful while other decided to be fanbous, bash those same games and hated on PS. You miss the point entirely and its not hard to understand. The other person could have and should have bought a PS4. Is that a bad thing to do? If I want Mario, I bought a Switch, which I did. Its really not rocket science man.
Well, after this news of MLB being shared with Xbox users, I feel like I need therapy to deal with my insecurity.
@HungryWolf Nier and Yaluza were not owned or funded by Sony. Third party can go where ever the dev pleases. Sony pays for MLB and their first party dev makes it.
@nessisonett People like you put out the doomsday thinking. I dont know why though? Even if PS1 is my favorite console of all time i dont even have time too take a breath between game releases. You got so many 3rd party games too. I think you should go into politics the populists need something too complain about. 😁
@wiiware I just want Sony to pay for games they own and only put them on PS. I don't care if The Show goes to other platform's but Sony should not pay for it anymore. Give my Modnation Racers2, Dark Cloud 3, Sly Cooper, Starhawk 2 or Resistance 4 instead of paying for games you can not keep. M$ did the same last gen and look how bad they are now. These people not understaning this point don't care about gaming. A game should not have to be on another platform for you to play it. Exclusives are what built the industry period.
You know what? Screw it. I hope these fools get just what they want so gaming can colapse and they cry about how good it used to be and how bad games are now. So be it.
@BarefootBowser This comment prove my point. Its not smart business at all or good for competition.
With the success of Switch and the rise of Cloud gaming platforms, it will be harder for Sony to land on third party exclusive. There is a reason for a sudden rush to acquire studio by both Microsoft and Sony. At the end of the day, quality first party studio can still make a huge difference in console's sale figure.
Still sells the most games and PS+ subscriptions growth each quarter shows there is zero problems with "engagement" or retention.
Idea of SONY putting The SHOW on Switch so I can play on the GO like the old VITA Games is fantastic. And 100% better for gamers than Nintendo making MarioKart Tour (casino) on garbage Mobile.
And if you a "Videogame" fan, no way you insecure about this hobby right now. Amazing stuff everywhere you look... I was more concern when Publishers only had PS4 because Nintendo and Microsoft were in the toilet.
I also saw a few people joking and being sarcastic but the ridicule is more on those who take that seriously and go full virtue signalling haha
Gamers is such a nasty thing easy to point at.. ... that sarcasm btw
@GodGamer It may not be hard to understand, but I don't understand what you are talking about.
People who bought a console to play MLB The Show still get to play MLB The Show. Unless I missed some big news, like TLoU2 is becoming an Xbox exclusive, I don't see why it matters.
I mean I get being surprised, I'm still shocked Xbox got FFXIII and that was 10 years ago, and I'm surprised about things like MLB The Show going multiplat, but being surprised doesn't mean I have to be upset about it.
It's video games, it's a business.
@BarefootBowser I'm in the exact same boat. Do I get a PS5early or get a Scarlett and wait for the PS5 for a while? The next year will decide I guess.
I get it. Mum's the word. And that's the way it has to be right now. Timing is crucial at this stage, and I'm sure we'll have our questions asked in due time, although admittedly it's left us in a momentary void of sorts
I don’t get it. More choice and more platforms is better for gamers right? We are all just gamers. We are also just consumers.
I love my PS4. I will more than likely buy a PS5 first because I want the experiences that I think are coming. My choice as a consumer.
The world is changing. Complaining about exclusivity is like complaining about Blockbuster going under or physical music dying. Digital and subscription plans are the future. Sony has generated loads of cash but not fro hardware sales but from its eco system. Sony have to look to target what is most profitable. I actually think PS Now will be developed more and become a cross platform service because why would they? Selling consoles is just another way to hook you into that sub model.
It is crazy to think a company that has just sold over 100 million consoles, despite the fact home consoles were labeled dead before this generation, feels the need to 'lean into a wider audience' but it's whatever. You can use dualshocks on PC, right? If it gets to a point, and I think it will, where Sony first party games are landing on PC, I'll just go that route to get the best experience possible.
Thing is State of Play is a direct copy of Nintendo Direct (no pun intended) and even in that Nintendo is winning 10-0.
I can't deny that I'm disappointed to see exclusives going to other platforms...if all games start being available on other consoles what's the point? Do you think Nintendo Switch sells because of triple A games that are in other consoles? No. And PS4 is good because it had the best exclusives of this gen (and last one too to be fair).
Also the success of PS4 owes too much to those legendary E3 conferences that wrecked microsoft at the time (like the sharing games video), so their absence only hurts them imo.
Let's wait...I'm expecting 2020 to be way better because of the PS5 hype train.
@rjejr
Final Fantasy is a third party franchise, though. Whether people think it or not, MLB The Show, a Sony first party franchise that has long been exclusive going multiplat is a massive deal and certainly puts the thought in people's minds, 'if MLB The Show can land on Xbox, why can't God of War?' Imo, it's a legit question. This isn't the same as third parties like Sega looking to grow the audience for Yakuza.
Who is feeling frustrated and insecure about playing video games? I'm definitely not.
I play video games to deliver relaxation or inspiration. If games don't do that, then why bother? If playing video games is making you feel frustrated or insecure, then you probably should reevaluate your priorities.
As a consumer, I have no loyalty to companies like Sony. I admire them, I love their products, but if their products stop being awesome, I'll just stop using them.
I actually welcome this change. It's time to put these silly console wars that have been going on since the days of Atari and Intellevision to bed. I for one never liked that which is why I have always owned multiple consoles each generation.
Console wars are just an ugly side of gaming that really is immature and just ruins gaming.
So what if Xbox and Switch owners can play God of War, MLB: The Show or Uncharted on the Xbox or Switch orPlaystation owners can play Halo, Rare Replay, Mario and Zelda games on the PlayStation.
Why deny people a.great game just because they can't afford all the consoles or just want to play on a console that is the most comfortable for them?
Of course they feel insecure. How else can they constantly look down on other console owners if they don't have their precious exclusive-catalog to back their $h&t talk up?
@Nyne11Tyme I did buy it day one and was disappointed I didn't wait. I had no interest in Shadowfall or Knack. I was gonna get Watchdogs then it got that major downgrade, so I was left playing Resogun and Contrast day one. Not really games you want to be playing day one of a new console. Now I'm older and wont buy into the hype unless the good sp games we know Sony for are coming at launch.
@Gamer83 "If MLB The Show can land on Xbox, why can't God of War?' Imo, it's a legit question"
Not really the circumstances are different. Sony owns the rights to Kratos, and other characters. Sony don't own the rights to the names or likeness of say New York Yankees or Boston Red Sox or J.D. Martinez or Stephen Strasburg the MLB and MLBPA does. Let's see how profitable The Show would be without those names.
So really it's not a legit question. People need to stop and think before assuming.
@BarefootBowser Allowing games to go to any other platform. You said it yourself, it makes you feel like you no longer need a PS. If Nintendo had put Mario Odyssey on another platform, then I would not have bought a Switch.
@Ken_Kaniff well thats fair for sure. I played a TON of resogun lol. I did thoroughly enjoy Killzone MP though and Knack 2 was a massive improvement over 1 although by no means a system seller.
@rjejr Now those people don't need a PS4 to play MLB The Show and the quality will decline. Letting the license go makes sense, but continuing ti pay for it does not. They let Crash and Spyro for that same reason. It would still be on PS if Sony losing the license, so why continue to pay for the license? They are not third party.
Q. How do you feel about PlayStation as we move into a new year, decade, and, crucially, generation? Are you satisfied or concerned with Sony's efforts in 2019?
A. I feel that I have nothing in common anymore with the type of games that are offered on the system. Either they're aimed at younger players, or I'm getting too old for the console (it's probably the latter).
@Tasuki
Yes, but that's not how the casual gamer is going to see it, all they see is a longtime exclusive going multiplat. You can say people need to stop and think but that's not how this works. There are lots people who love games, who follow the news but aren't as invested as people who frequent game websites every day. This is a situation Sony needs to clear up if in fact it played out the way people are speculating. I still think there's a chance this was a Sony decision. MLB The Show has been around since 2006, the series did so well numbers wise on one brand it forced 2K, not some small indie company, to drop out. All the sudden the MLB decides a series which has always sold well and is continuing to grow needs to expand beyond one platform or Sony loses the license altogether? Again, not saying it didn't happen but it would be nice to get the real details.
@Tasuki You are making my point. Its not about console wars for gamers, just fanboys. What is the point of owning multiple consoles if their are less exclusives? FF7 was why I bought a PSOne and GoldenEye is why I had an N64. I bought a GameCube for Wind Waker and PS2 for Jak & Daxter. Those games only existed because the two companies needed to compete. If their wss no Sonic or Sonic was on SNES I would have never even looked at a Genesis. This is about competition, not console wars. Anyway I have said enough. Thete are only two more games this gen I am looking foreward to, but I don't know if I will be able to play them elsewhere LOL. Man I miss the 6th generation.
"Frustrated and Insecure"? Why? There's something wrong if you get "insecure" over a company's brand. PlayStation are perfectly fine. They've been fine since 2016, maybe even earlier. What happened to the faith everyone had in PlayStation from just a year or two ago?
The exclusives will always be there, they will always make more, because Sony knows how important exclusive games are, believe it or not. Heck, I've heard multiple times that PlayStation owners would just play the games on PlayStation consoles regardless of exclusivity. So do that. It's an entertainment industry, yeah? Entertain yourself!
Communication? Considering everytime Sony does so much as suck wind they get blowback, I don't really blame them. Every State of Play gets some decent level of backlash. It's not perfect, but each one has some announcement worthy of buzz. I also still remember when PS5 info was just dropped on us without notice. They had no reason to do that, but they did. Is it a matter of patience? They're clearly still working on it, so of course we're only getting so much until it's properly ready for a reveal.
I get that this is just one pocket of the base and not PlayStation fans as a whole, thankfully, but it's silly that PS4 has had one of the healthiest console lifecycles ever, and people still find something to get "frustrated and insecure" about. Leave that to the people actually make the decisions and games, yeah?
@Gamer83 MLB is not owned by Sony though. Is there any point having an exclusive game called "MLB The Show" if there is also going to be "MLB Baseball" on Xbox and "MLB Portable" on Switch? Sony said, "Yeah ok, we can make this game work on other systems MLB, no problem" rather than lose the rights entirely and have to make "Backyard Baseball" or "NCAA Baseball" instead. I don't have a problem with that.
MLB, NFL, FIFA, NHL no one console should have exclusive rights to any of those. No one company like EA should have exclusive rights either, but they do, b/c nobody can afford to outbid them, and that's how capitalism works. Not that I like that either.
Spiderman could also be a problem, Sony doesn't own him either. That's why Marvel's Avengers is also on Xbox. If a company wants to have exclusive games they should make exclusive IP, not base it on other companies licenses. That's why I doubt Uncharted, God of War, Gears of War, Mario or Zelda are bound to be multiplat, the companies own IP. They dont' own sports. Or comic books.
But really, even if all games were multiplat, so what? I'm looking to lease a car, I don't care if it's Kia, Honda, Hyundai Chevy or Ford, they'll all run on the same gas, tires, batteries, have the same radios. Maybe they have some exclusives but I'm not buying them for exclusives. Same for the new fridge I need, and sofa. I don't have company loyalty. I expect any fridge I buy to keep both Coke and Pepsi cold. And RC too.
Not to say there isn't anything I don't get upset about, I get upset about plenty. I don't like lieing. Or hypocrisy. I'd be annoyed had I purchased an Xbox for Scalebound. I'm annoyed that God of War ended just when it started getting good, middle of the story, and now I'l almost certainly need to buy an entire new console to play GoW2 b/c it probably won't release on PS4. So even if GoW2 became an Xbox Scarlett exclusive it probably wouldn't' matter to me if I need to buy a PS5 anyway. I wont' buy FF7R on PS4 bc/ I'll need to buy another console to see the end. Maybe 2 the way Squenix works.
So there are reasons I understand for getting upset - you are told you are getting something and then you aren't - but I don't get being upset b/c you were told you were getting something, you got it, then other people get it to. I just can't be upset over that, life's too short to worry about what other people get, I just worry about what I get.
Any FF game on any Xbox stills strike me as weird though. I'm not upset about it, it's just weird. Like throwback monochrome football uniforms, atrocious.
@Flaming_Kaiser you are probably right.
It's basically the last year for the PS4 for many grand titles, so it wasn't that bad. The PS5 is releasing next year, which means most of Sony's publishers are going to be working on that, not the PS4...nintendo has done this, whenever the last year of their console before the release of a new one, the games are slim. I'm sure more will come out into 2020, many surprises, granted they may not all be by Sony, but I'm kind of looking forward to the surprises of the PS5 and what games are being worked on for that more. Guess I have enough backlog for the PS4, but I'm looking forward to next year to see what they have coming.
Sony definitely take their customers for granted at all levels, the only thing they are getting right is first party exclusives, everywhere else needs improvement
@GodGamer Yeah exclusives is good for the industry, that's why we're getting all the first party games without mtx or lootbox, because sony want that games to sells ps4 first and sells the games second, if the game is being made by publisher that didn't need to sells console, that games will be filled to the brim with mtx, lootbox, or worse.
But like I said before, maybe sony want to be more flexible nextgen, selling games that isn't system sellers on pc/other consoles to pay for the true exclusives that really sells the ps4/ps5 like new gow or new horizon zd.
@BarefootBowser Did some research, Sony does seem to still own the movie and TV rights, can't find out anything about games though.
Spiderman is in MUA3, which is a Switch exclusive, so it would be hard to argue Spiderman is a PS4 property.
This article sounds like a damage control to me. Again. And this time a passive aggressive on top of it all...
But as for some of the inconsistencies inside, maybe I'm not really a genius, so I just simply don't understand why Predator: Hunting Grounds, for example, is coming to PC while being Epic Store exclusive. I don't think it's being able to boost any player base this way, but bloody hell, I'm only a simple moron here at the end of the day.
@DerMeister Spot on. And frankly, I think this was Sony's best State of Play to date. I mean, RE3? Dreams with release date? Ghost of Tsushima? We even got indie fan favorite, Goose.
This was pure awesomesauce. Which is why I get eye rolls when I see idiots giving Death Stranding 0/10s because ... it also got released on PC? Seriously?
@GodGamer Why in the hell are you talking to me as if I am an X-Box fanboy? I'm a Sony fan, through and through. I just can't stand those toxic fanboys who crap-talk on other consoles. And like it or not, the PS brand's fanbase has a toxic section which uses the exclusives as a reason to validate themselves and talk crap to owners of other consoles. They don't represent the entire fandom, but they ARE there.
These are the people I can't stand. If you think PS fans don't act like this, you let your fanboy-goggles get the best of you.
@Gamer83 As for the funniest thing, contrary to the bad-exclusive 'zeitgaist', I fail to see people here or at another sites begging for Nintendo exclusives going multiplatform. There were even published some articles here and there telling it won't get ported, so it is really wrong to ask for... Hell, there are some titles in the market, like Cuphead, being NOT RELEASED ONLY ON PS4. I strangely don't see serious complaining and whining about those.
@snakemake You don't remember a good portion of us complaining at Nintendo for not porting Astral Chain to the PS4? Because I sure as heck do.
Embrace the changes........ are you serious?
Sure, I'll will embrace it by dumping playstation and going full pc.
@Nickolaidas Yeah, but those complaning were yelled by those evil scary fanboys, while at the same time being chastened and moralised by opinion-forming journalists and other influencers. Here it's the other way around.
@Nyne11Tyme Oh yea me to. I platinumed Resogun, lol. Shadowfall looked good but I'm not much of a mp guy. I honestly want to buy a PS5 day one, but I'm gonna be smart about it this time if there's nothing I really want to play at launch.
For all the idiots on the commenting "oH nO mORe mOnEy tHRoUGh mUltIplAtFoRm" there is a console on the market called XBOX which has released it's main attractions on PC and ever since then has lose all relevance since it's just a dumbed down PC with a bunch of pathetic services, what is the point releasing a console on the market, and then release ALL it's system sellers on other platforms? congratulations you have a dumbed down a PC with dozen of limitations because all you talk about is money and revenue, people should be buying playstation to play their games JUST LIKE nintendo do and no one whine or complains, not the other way around, it's not hard to understand, if you like PS and console gaming, defend exclusives, and not this multiplatform garbage because money is all that matters.
@Shepherd_Tallon and through which platform kojima got famous? yes Playstation, the series has never done well in the other platforms, so where is the crime of exclusive death stranding? you want to play kojima game, get a playstation, SIMPLE, this has been done for years and decades and worked fine
But nope let sony fund the entire project along with it's Decima engine and give off to the PC gamers, which will get the game already updated likely with less bugs and problems even with DLC AND the worst, CHEAPER, while we here on PS paid full price, so genius isn't it? oh no but its fine because "mOrE mOnEy aNd rEvEnUe aNd aVoiD bAckLASh"(despite kojima games being exclusive to PS for a long time) you are a client, not a executive or worker at sony, you're not getting that money, you will be used as a idiot to fund another platform version
For me Sony has recently p*ssed me off with the Now ‘update’. 1st month was strong and then it has gone down bank. I cannot raise any concerns to anyone as their support is crap and their Twitter is utter rubbish too.
Have you every used ask PlayStation? It is a joke.
We have the same issue with Plus. Basically here are you games now leave us alone.
It is 2019 nearly 2020 and they have NO platform for communication. Sony are getting cocky...
@JayDub this is what i have been trying to say for a while, the is no point getting a PS if it's ENTIRE lineup and system sellers are on other platforms, xbox did this and currently has zero relevance since it's a dumbed down PC now
@Ken_Kaniff so did I...my first ps4 platinum lol. Also love the name lol. A lot probably dont have a clue where thats from
The comment section just exploded. 😆
its fun watching fanboys cry
@AzureDragonV But with that money they can fund other great games without going liveservice. So im ok with that. 🤓👍
We’re literally on the cusp of next gen arriving, of course there isn’t gonna be a full on blowout of everything they’re working on. Gamers can be so damn ungrateful sometimes. We’ll have plenty to play until the next big exclusive, stop freaking out.
I don't really care too much if the games aren't exclusive, I still get to play them. I do agree though that losing exclusives doesn't help the brand, and gives less of a reason to buy a Playstation console.
@Gamer83 So what does it matter what casual or for that case anyone thinks? We know the truth, Sony doesn't owe anyone an explanation. As I said it's simple MLB didn't want the game just tied to Sony systems anymore yeah Sony could have said no but where would that have left them?
Honestly I am glad that they are going multiplat instead of saying no and them either 2K or EA getting the MLB license and messing it all up.
I feel fine. i enjoy Playstation state of play so i don't know what your on ab3
As long as they make money off, I could care less.
I thought this was going to be about the closing of The Tomorrow Children servers.
@Nyne11Tyme Yea mine to, lol. And thanks man. Your right most people dont remember the skit.
Great article Sammy… Let’s remain loyal to a company that’s been great for so long and I think will continue to be great.
@Hobbes1990 we still need ND to release Unkarted - Wheels of Fortune before we get to Branshatchborne
I'm on PlayStation train since the beginning. But if they gonna release theirs games on everywhere. Next gen I'll buy a PC.
I own both Fatbox One and ps4 so don't really care haha. Also find it funny how hardcore ps4 fanboys brag about third party exclusives then cry when a third party game is a console exclusive on anything but a ps4. Saltier than the water in Sea of Thieves.
Chicago Cubs SUCK!!!
The only reason I envy the Switch is because they have exclusive indie type games I cant get. As a ruthless business move I think Sony should tie exclusive allegiance to smaller games. Deny the smaller games to the competition. Cripple the switch. But actually I just want all games available everywhere. Let the hardware decide.
PS5 really needs to be backwards compatible with PS1,2,4 for me to be appealing otherwise why would I get it if I can play their games on PC, exclusives are all that matters in the industry of consoles just look at Nintendo even when they didn't have third party support they have survived all this time thanks to their exclusives
@GKO900 the Wii U had only exclusives and it was a huge failure.
I have no doubt that if I only made games and not only played games. My views would be the total opposite side of exclusive games.
@Frejan
Well I'm definitely getting a ps5 but I'll see in the future. Exclusives are the reason why consoles are still alive I believe. I might go back to pc next too.
However, someone in the comments said people need to stop and think. He was told that's not how it works. I say let's try make our brains Clink Clank, and see how it goes...haha
Truth is, theres fake outrage every where and first of all from the press and real 'influencers'. 'Clever people' being outraged by the outrage is a classic.
@Hobbes1990 Bloodborne kart, lol!
That would be hilarious to see 😂
@Powerpellet don’t envy the switch just get one, they’re awesome!
.. the issue I have for PS5/PS4Pro currently is value for money... I have both Pro and XB1X - and there's no way I would get a cross-platform game (currently) on Pro (as it's not as powerful, doesn't run as well, etc. etc.) - so they lose out there... their version of Game Pass is a joke (nothing beats the value of Game Pass, it's just extraordinary value, the speed at which new comes are available is just bonkers)... and their 'exclusives' are dwindling... sure it's got PSVR (love, love, love) - but that too is showing its age and getting less love these days... If you're a gaming fan, no doubt you'll get both Scarlett and 5, but, it's in which order and which one first?
For me the PS5 day one just isn't a good proposition, re-hashed "5 improved" games that have already been released, a poor gaming subscription and no real standout exclusives (apart from Spidey / Ghosts of Ts - and it's likely they'll be released on PS4Pro) - so Scarlett (which is likely to be more powerful than 5) has the edge already...
To me it feels like PS has become a little complacent over the last couple of years, and they're going to get burned badly with the next gen war... I have no doubt XB will leap over PS next gen to take the crown again (and then after that, PS will step up and leap over XB) - but you can already see how stale PS4 is becoming - no real change to UI, reduced PS+ offering, fewer PSVR titles, higher price PS+ / bad value Games Pass, fewer exclusives... whilst MS snaps up so many studios ready for the next gen war... and a truckload of exclusives that are often available day one without purchase... it's going to be an interesting couple of years!
So much negativity sigh. Still better games than PC box.
@Dodoo Not only that, it would be SO good. The tracks would look incredible based on all the different locations, and the Karts could have "switch" moves that change their appearance and how they handle for different sections of the tracks - kinda like a Lovecraftian Sonic All Stars Racing Transformed. What a game that would be.
@vrtualinsanity
I've an XB1X as well as a PS4 and now a PS4 pro as well. But if I had an XB1S like you I wouldn't be buying multi platform games for it since 99.9% of the time it gets the worst preforming version, due to it being underpowered.
I laughed when you said "MS have performed a wonder stroke". If they have I must have missed it 😅
@Dodoo
I was a hardcore Nintendo fan for 20 years until the Switch came out. I feel Nintendo have abandoned people like me and I also think the Switch is a lot to be desired. When I seen the little sticks on it I thought "WTF". It only has 2 or 3 games worth having that are not on Wii u; Odyssey and Smash Bros and maybe the new Zelda. It's overpriced, has major issues with built quality. This is not the Nintendo I know. This isn't an attack on you it's how I feel.
PlayStation's Most Ardent Fans Are Feeling Frustrated and Insecure
= About 5 vocal people on Twitter
Hmm, I am HAPPY with the PlayStation brand and I have PlayStation blood in me It's mainly the Haters online who haven't got a PS4 anyway(you KNOW who they are) who moan about EVERYTHING that SONY does. I can't see what more SONY can do at the moment??? The PS4 has been brilliant and they are getting ready for next-gen now + the games going to PC from PlayStation are hardly worth crying about If it was TLoU, GoW, Horizon etc etc then I wouldn't be happy because then SONY would be like Microsoft
@Jay767 look at the backlash about Death Stranding going to PC lol. I mean they only announced that at around the same time they announced the existence of the game. These reactions are silly nad unnecessary. At the end of the day I applaud Sony for what they have accomplished and how they are being more open to new things to ultimately benefit their fans. Cross platform Minecraft is a great example of this.
State of Play, eh? They just need to rebrand it...
eState of Play: It’s online.
The world is watching.
There. My job is done. Sony? Check please!
Don't really understand the "frustration and insecurity". Never cared about exclusives being exclusive. I'm a casual player and the reason I bought PS4 was that I don't have to have a powerfull PC in order to play new games year after year - I'm sure this is a big reason for many people. My ps4 is about 6 years old and still working well (the only thing I don't like is the occasional fan noise). I doubt that I could play well new games with a 6 years old PC unless it was at the time of purchase an expensive top end machine. Although some titles have performance problems, the PS4 games I have bought so far run mostly very well or well enough.
Ballsy article. I like it! PlayStation owners/fans have nothing to be insecure about in regards to games. Don't worry about who gets to play games. The PlayStation brand isn't going anywhere. If any of this somehow hurts Sony they will stop and reverse, they have the ability to do that.
If any of this helps Sony they will make more money and continue to be better than ever when it comes to making games. Ultimately you only need to be worrying about YOU being able to play the best games possible.
As long as what Sony is doing continues to allow for that, be content and reap all the benefits. You aren't being hurt if you aren't the only person who gets to enjoy a great game.
The time to get upset or complain is if Sony makes some horrible games or releases a terrible console.
Sony are flailing but for none of the reasons posted here.
Give it time.
Perhaps they'll jump the shark.
I THINK Microsoft are fairly quietly doing it. Sony seem to be focusing on VR...
Ouch...
@Ps4_all_the_way fair enough. I agree Nintendo don’t make as much that appeals to me these days. Where’s wave race, f-zero etc...?
I was anxious before getting mine thinking the joy cons would be terrible for Zelda but I ended up completing it using them, wasn’t as bad as I thought. Having said that the pro controller is much better. I’ve not personally had any hardware issues with mine but realise some have had drifting issues.
What would it take Nintendo to do to win you back, if anything? Just curious...
Its hard to get excited about State of Play when most of the time we already know what all of the big reveals are going to be.
We already knew about Resi 3, Dreams has already been in early access, no new gameplay for Tsushima, GoT was a lame tease, etc.
I wouldn't really use the word underwhelming to describe it, but State of Play hasn't really done anything to generate hype. If anything, its more frustrating seekng yet another teaser for games that have been teased a dozen times already over the years.
Soyny's biggest mistake was getting woke and censoring games. As it stands, there is literally no title on the PS5 that interests me. Any game coming out on a Sony console in the next year I can get fully uncensored on Steam or the Switch. #GetWokeGoBroke #Soyny
@Demirincar The only games Sony censor are ones which have paedophilic tendencies or would appeal to children. That's not really a mistake in my eyes. But then I'm not a paedophile. You fight your censorship cause if you want. But I guess it takes a certain kind of person advocate borderline child porn so they can get off to a load of pixels.
@Dodoo
I'll tell you what I might buy. A switch box that just connects to the TV, no portability and bundled with a pro controller. I don't know if that could even work because some games may have touch screen elements.
Plus like you said F zero and wave race would be great. I still have them on GameCube.
@Eldritch Oh boy tell me again how Trish from Devil May Cry 5, Tifa from FFVII and R. Mika from SFV are children. Also I'd love to know where you live, children in the region where I'm at typically have underdeveloped bodies, not the massive breasts, wide hips and thick thighs a lot of anime girls have. Keep peddling fake outrage if that gives your life meaning, I suppose.
A normal sane human being knows how to tell the difference between fantasy and reality. Keep in mind that people have limits, if you take away every outlet they have to obtain sexual satisfaction in the safety of their own bedroom, it is only a matter of time before you force them to find release often at the expense of real people. I know this because I live in a country where porn is banned, and the incidence of rape and incest is much higher here than anywhere in the western world.
@Demirincar Hold on... are you seriously trying to tell me we should cater to the needs of rapists and child molesters and think of it as a community service? Also I'm not quite sure how you can tell me any normal sane human knows the difference between reality and fantasy, then follow that up by pretty much condoning the actions of people who inflict such acts because they were forced into the situation by censorship. Wow. Where I'm from the 'normal sane humans' know that behaviour is totally unacceptable... whatever the circumstances. Perhaps, rather than censorship, there's a far more deep rooted issue that's the cause? Because there are certainly a lot of other areas that ban pornography but don't have the same issues.
Your way of thinking to me is absurd. If someone wants a Ferrari car but can't afford it so steals one we call it theft and jail them. But in your eyes if someone wants sex but can't get their kicks off of some sad game or porn it's their human right to go get it elsewhere because the situation was forced upon them? Probably best we leave this here as we're certainly never going to agree.
Ps. A lot of the games you mentioned were only censored by Sony in the West, which since you're not living in the West it wouldn't affect you. So I think it's you, rather than me, peddling the fake outrage.
@JJ2
The problem to me is what Sony themselves are doing. Don't even care for what journalists of any media say anymore.
But when Sony say that some games will be released on other places, why bother and buy a Sony box? When there is a possibility that I'll buy these games on PC and I don't have to pay to play online, mods and I don't have to care about censorship?
For the first time in 25 years I just can't care enough to a New console that will be released next year. And I just have Sony themselves to blame about that.
@Frejan
Well SLayden said 'some' games and I think he was talking about mp. I hope so anyway
@Eldritch You just hurt yourself in your confusion. Tell me who exactly is getting hurt and raped if someone looks at a naked drawing? Sexual desire is a biological need, and if you prevent someone from fulfilling that need in a safe way that doesn't negatively affect anyone else, sooner or later you'll just push them to do something that might involve other people. What do you think is gonna happen if two people are stranded on a deserted island with no vegetation or wildlife? Do you think they're just gonna wait and starve to death?
Also, your comparison is illogical. If someone wants a Ferrari car but can't afford it, they are free to look at pictures of Ferrari cars, play driving games that have Ferrari cars and watch shows featuring Ferrari cars. Just like if someone wants to fantasize about naked girls, they are free to look at drawings of naked girls, play games that have nudity and watch shows with naked girls (obviously the making of such media has to have consent if they are real actresses involved, but if it's animation/cartoon then it's free real estate). Notice the similarity in these two situations? They DON'T HAVE REAL WORLD CONSEQUENCES. If someone were to steal a car or rape, that affects another human being. How the fk does someone looking at fictional drawings affect someone else?
Anyway, it doesn't matter to me. There are ways to circumvent censorship, such as buying on another platform, restoration patches, mods, piracy and emulators. All Soyny is doing is killing its own profits.
I don't live in the West but I don't live in Japan either. Most of us here in Southeast Asia don't speak Japanese so we have to play the NA version of console games. And you seem to be living under a rock, Soyny has even started censoring the Japanese version of their games ever since their headquarters moved to the SJW capital, California. My original comment was just my two cents as to why I'm no longer supporting Soyny. You're the keyboard warrior looking for a fight online.
@Demirincar Look, I think you're having a problem following your own conversation. Let me quote your very own words... "it is only a matter of time before you force them to find release often at the expense of real people."
It's those real people "YOU" referenced that I'm talking about getting hurt. It's not that hard to understand.
And in answer to your question... Yes people have starved to death rather than do what you're suggesting. So again, perhaps it's the mindset of the people where you're from rather than censorship that's the issue. Perhaps you should be putting more effort into changing that.
I also think you're on another planet saying Sony's killing it's profits. They are rolling in money. $670 million profit for PlayStation alone when they announced their last financial report. Near to the end of its generation as well. Hardly a sign people with your needs, boycotting Sony, are having an impact. You're living in a Dreamworld.
As for me hurting myself, I'm not the one coming across as a creepy sweaty guy hunched over his keyboard, tissues at the ready, waiting to spot a few pixelated naughty bits in the hope they'll be enough to satiate me.
So no, I haven't hurt myself except perhaps choosing to debate something with someone who can't follow the conversation. I've already said we're not going to agree. So there's no point continuing. I won't be replying again.
My only problem with Sony is the censorship policy, I dislike censorship and specifically a censorship so biased against Japanese media make me not want to stay on Playstation. I liked Sony because they were the best place to play western games and Japanese games, the perfect balance, and now, after 19 years I decided to go somewhere else, the next Playstation is clearly not for me, at least that's the message Sony is sending my way.
and please, don't even try to make stupid arguments like "they're censoring pedophilia" because everyone knows it's not the reality, they don't even have a clear policy, it's 100% arbitrary and only hurts Japanese devs.
@VRDart Xbox does not get tons of Japanese games and Nintendo also censoring games on Switch. So not sure where you planing on "going"... PC?
I struggle to see how someone playing games on a different console has any impact on me...
i think you might be a confused, its playstation fans and the xbox converts that now play on the playstation. these xbox converts have a lot of anger stuck inside, since the had to eat their own fanboy-ism and leave xbox. its these xbox converts that goes around a screeching about low textures etc and not the playstation fans.
People that still prefer consoles are always gonna get the console versions like myself. PC doesn't really exist in our minds for playtime. We simply don't care. I will get every 9th gen game on PS5.
@Eldritch @Eldritch It's like you're not even paying attention to your own words. By doing what YOU'RE condoning, censorship and deprivation of people's basic needs, you are forcing people to take drastic measures that might potentially hurt someone. Which is exactly what I said; censorship will have bad consequences.
I hate to use SJW speak, but check your privilege. You obviously have never been in a situation where your basic needs aren't met to so casually dismiss the idea that a dying, starving person might sink to cannibalism. There's a famous saying 'sex is like oxygen, it's not important until you don't have it'. Let's see how high and mighty you are when you're drowning in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
Just like a typical libtard, you obscure the facts that don't support your narrative and pick and choose the numbers you want to see. The Nintendo Switch was the top selling console of 2018 and 2019, not the PS4. How little Soyny makes doesn't matter to me, I'm not a shareholder. I'm just not giving them anymore money for woke garbage, there are better ways to spend my hardearned cash. Hell, I was even able to double my visits to sex workers this year with all the money the Twatter idiots have been saving me with all their outrage & censorship antics. You're the rabid fanboi obsessed with Soyny's profits, I only spoke for myself when I said I wasn't supporting them anymore. I never called for a boycott, people are free to spend their money however they want.
You're really projecting hard, aren't you? The way you start insulting the opponent the moment you run out of arguments, sounds like you're the creepy, sweaty guy in the basement here, and it also sounds like you're harboring a deep sense of guilt for having sexual impulses (religious, perhaps?). That's okay, no judgement from me. Masturbation is a perfectly healthy and normal thing to do. The fact that it feels creepy to you speaks volumes about your character (and celibacy status; no shame if you're an incel though, I was one too once a long time ago before I discovered sex workers).
Remember that you started this fight that you couldn't win. Next time, think before you type. I don't care at this point whether Soyny wants to continue down this path of censorship to its own demise, I'll have other avenues of entertainment. And if those are gone too, I'll just have to take actions that will unfortunately involve innocent women in the real world, hopefully things won't escalate that far. I have no more sympathy for society, I'll show no mercy to anyone who stands in my way, not some puny FBI agent, not even a pathetic little god.
@Ps4_all_the_way yeah any game that has touch screen elements on switch can be played with a controller if you prefer. In fact I never use touch screen controls myself unless it’s for the menus. Of course menus can be controller controlled too!
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