Since its most recent delay was announced, there's been a lot of speculation over how well Cyberpunk 2077 runs on current-gen consoles. We're yet to see the open world title running on either PS4 or Xbox One, and there have long been rumours that CD Projekt Red has struggled in getting those versions up to speed.
Indeed, just earlier this week, we reported on the growing concern surrounding the PS4 version of Cyberpunk 2077, and now, it sounds like current-gen consoles really are to blame for the delay.
Speaking to investors after the delay was announced, joint CEO of CD Projekt Red Adam Kiciński said: "The game is ready for the PC and runs great on the next-gen consoles, and could be shipped on the scheduled date on those platforms. However, even though the game has been certified on the current gens by both Sony and Microsoft, some very final optimisation processes for such a massive and complex game require a bit of additional time."
This quote also puts to bed the especially shaky rumour that Cyberpunk 2077 had failed its final certification on consoles. We certainly didn't believe that one anyway.
But yeah, the bottom line appears to be that Cyberpunk 2077 needs a little more attention on current-gen hardware. "We are releasing a game which is, to be honest, a next-gen game, and we're preparing it for fairly old machines, which poses certain unique challenges," Kiciński concluded. Now we just have to hope that the game isn't a mess when it hits PS4.
[source cdprojekt.com, via eurogamer.net]
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Just delay those versions?
Should’ve just kept this game as a next gen exclusive
They should’ve released the versions that are ready on the initial release date and do the downports later. Similar to how they handled the Witcher 3 on switch.
It doesn't sound like the game is going to be very good on standard PS4 really, which would explain why they haven't shown a second of gameplay from that version.
The hope is that PS5's Game Boost will clean up some of the issues, but I'm still not really holding my breath for that version either really.
Lol wtf. Just delay the old versions then...they must be having a mental breakdown!
So is the next gen versions launching in December then?
Is the ps4 upgrade to ps5 version - different from a ps5 copy?
Or both are the same?
@oldschool1987 I don't think they've made PS5/XBSX discs, just PS4/Xbox One X discs with free next gen upgrade (correct me if I'm wrong). I know you can just download it, but a lot of people still buy physical, so I suppose CDPR want everyone who buys it at launch to start experiencing/playing the game they want to ship it at the same time? Maybe.
@get2sammyb Didn't they give the same reason when they delayed the game way back in April / May?
@notdead Here's how (from my understanding) it's going to work: the PS4 version will be optimised for PS5 Game Boost, meaning you'll still be playing backwards compatible but should get the best possible framerate/resolution on PS5.
Then next year, there'll be a proper PS5 version which is free to download if you own it on PS4 already.
@Sub-Xero The problem is that it's still effectively going to be the PS4 version. So even if it runs smoothly on PS5, it may not be using the best possible assets and there's nothing that Game Boost can do about that.
Proof will be in the pudding on 10th December.
This is getting bizarre now, I think they need to bite the bullet and delay it indefinitely. I think I'm going to cancel my PS4 pre-order and just wait for all the wrinkles to get ironed out. There's not much point of rushing to play such an exciting game if it's a broken mess.
they should have canceled the current gen version while they still could. my understanding is that it only became a next gen game somewhere during development and not at the start,so they should have just made the call to not support the current gen consoles at that point. but they decided to do it anyway with this as a result.
imo better to cancel the current gen versions and refund pre orders while they still could (now it's to late) rather then having a halfbaked current gen version which will be so bad that it brings down the entire game's reception.
That's kinda ridiculous. Wasn't the game in development for 7+ years FOR this generation? How is it that it can't be run smoothly on platforms it was initially intended to be played on.
@Ryall Yeah but the original game also released before the Switch was even a thing. Cyberpunk was initially developed with current gen in mind since the beginning.
It doesn't make sense to sideline those versions because I think people have overestimated how many people are actually going straight into next gen at the launch of these consoles considering how healthy the install bases for those systems, especially the PS4, still are.
How come you make a next gen game since 2013?
Maybe the font was so tiny in the current gen games it completely disappeared off the screen, so they just need to increase it to a readable size, and they don't want to wait until 2 weeks after launch this time to fix it?
https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2015/05/new_witcher_3_ps4_patch_is_out_in_the_wild_addresses_performance_and_enlarges_text
@get2sammyb
Thank you for clearing this up for me (and others)
@TheIdleCritic that's a fair point, I didn't think of that. Tbh I forgot the next gen upgrade isn't until early next year
An article back in January has aged like fine wine. So much for Xbox One, PS4 variants not being an issue.
To be fair, Covid could be a factor as to why they keep delaying this game, but the amount of delays is humorous.
@TheFrenchiestFry it’s pretty clear from everything we’ve seen that the lead platform is PC. It doesn’t sound like a problem of bugs per se it sounds more like a performance issue.
@get2sammyb they specifically said PS5 will receive a next gen patch day 1 so it won’t be running in game boost / back compat mode. It will take advantage of PS5. However there will still be a full next gen patch / version released later that fully uses the new hardware.
@Medic_Alert That is wrong. CDPR have said PS5 and Series X will get a basic next gen patch day 1 so they will not be running in back compat mode.
Sigh, just launch it on next-gen console and pc this year, and old gen + stadia next year, that's more realistic than launching on 7+ system this year.
@Medic_Alert Ah right yea, they must just be unlocking the frame rates or something then so that next gen can get to 60fps.
Imagine being held back by the consoles that released AFTER you first teased the game.
Should do a PC release first. Consoles later.
Just one more reason why I’m quite happy waiting a year in before upgrading to ps5.
I don't know, if it's really impossible for this game to run on current gen consoles, why delay it a few weeks? That doesn't sound like something you fix in a few weeks.
This actually means that they are crippling the PS4 version visuals to the point where it can get 30 fps at 900p and it will run on PS5 at this settings just at higher resolution and framerate and we will get a "proper next-gen" experience next year. If so, this is real bad news and I will cancel the preorder… OMG
@Medic_Alert @get2sammyb The enhanced backwards compatibility is really quite impressive. All the testing is been done on Xbox. But we know from a number of Sony 1st party games that have 60 frames per second patches. That both consoles work for patch games in essentially the same way. https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-xbox-series-x-back-compat-is-transformative
If cyberpunk is currently in a similar situation to dead or alive 6 say around the 15-20 frames per second mark on base hardware. Don’t you think it’s possible that it will be fixed by moving to next gen consoles?
@get2sammyb how are push square going to handle cross gen reviews out of interest? Will there be a review for both platforms or just for one with or without a paragraph summarising differences on the other platform?
I've had this pre-ordered for months to play on PS5, with whatever basic resolution or framerate patch it may get, but just cancelled and will use the credit on Demons Souls or Miles Morales Ultimate.
Quite apart from the probable bad state this game is gonna release in, I've just lost a load of my hype and excitement for it at the moment. Will doubtless buy it, but prudence screamed at me that waiting for patches and the full next gen upgrade was the only sensible course of action at this point. I take no pleasure in that. ☹️
@oldschool1987 thats all versions except PC
question: considering how long this game was in development for, you would have to imagine that base ps4 was the target platform at one point? now i am starting to wonder if pc was the target platform and cdpr did a hack job for the current gen consoles. definitely appears to be the case. been saying it forever but this game simply looks too ambitious for the base consoles and you would be doing yourself a disservice to play it there. i think it is going to be a pr disaster when word gets out and they are just buying as much time as possible.
@mrmartinrohr Witcher 3 had many framerate issues at launch that were patched. I wouldnt say the patch crippled it. Hopefully this means that it will launch in a better state.
CDPR games have never launched in a good state. Hopefully they are trying to correct that but its really damaging their release dates.
@zupertramp they are just buying time. they hope they can get another day one patch out in time for the current gen builds of the game. we all know it will take months before this game is in the playable state it should be in day one (similar to witcher 3) which begs the question why people pre-order in the first place. lack of self control i guess.
I'm not seeing or reading anything that says current gen versions are not running well..is the base ps4 version going to be as smooth as the pro version or the ps5? In all honesty no but to say that its going to be awful and unplayable is a bit strong..days gone has some of the worst frame rate drops i have seen on a ps4 game and it still got a decent review and is held as a ps4 high point..so if cyberpunks frame rate is a bit iffy does that mean its rubbish? Enough of this already as all this is doing is fanning the flames of negativity..
@Porco and exactly how do we all know this? Do you have some rock solid 100% accurate evidence to support this eh? Please share..
Unfortunately these days it would have to take a game overheating or bricking a console at Sony/XB HQ for a AAA studio to fail certification!
Insofar as dropping current gen versions CDPR undoubtedly had investors coming in the last few years on the promise Cyberpunk would reach as wide an audience as possible which would include current gen consoles. It would not go down well if they backflipped now.
GTA V is the last cross gen example I can think off offhand of a game that ran okay on ps3 but obviously was improved on ps4.
@Digit2021 That would've been the best option
This may be a dumb question,but I need to ask. What if I never insert cyberpunk in my ps4,and install it only in my ps5? Will I still get the full future ps5 upgrade?
These latest news make me very glad I have a PC to play this on, as I certainly don't have the resources or need to get a next-gen console right away, and I sure as hell don't want to play a half-baked version of this game.
@Porco people pre order because they have the money and want to play the game when it comes out. It's not that complicated. And I'm endlessly bewildered by the "nO sElf-COntRol" crowd. If investing in a hobby means having no self control then go off Spartan. Me, I'm gonna buy games when I want them. If you wanna buy every game two years after release I won't hold it against you.
@zupertramp if you want to pay a premium to experience the game at its worst (before all the patches roll out) i cannot see the logic. but go right on ahead.
PS4 PC & Xbox One should have been the priority!! because they wanted to have it on everything! the platforms it was originally announced for have to suffer. I find this very poor management & the dates they keep giving are a joke.
Rockstar got GTA 5 looking amazing on PS3 this shows to me they are a long way from being on par with Rockstar Games.
I am not surprised. They couldn’t even optimize Thronebreaker (play it if you haven’t! Delightful!) to run without problems. Good games, just not the best coding
@Porco To be honest, I love sales as much as the next penny pincher but several retailers are offering this game at $10 off. That's already a 16-17% discount. I take your point about broken launch games (no one wants that) but I have to ask myself, how long will it be before the game sees that much of a discount after release. And if it turns out not broken at release, I'll wonder why I waited for a comparable discount.
@wiiware How exactly do they do that when there's no next gen versions being released until next year? The versions people will play on PS5 and Series X this year is the PS4 and X1 versions.
@Richnj It’s going to be more common as dev cycles take longer. It’s not too dissimilar to Bethesda announcing Elder Scrolls VI. Starfield will be their focus for years, then a solid 5 years on ESVI after that’s done will probably have it coming out near the NEXT generation and probably being held back by PS5 and XSX.
@Peach64 For a start, if dev cycles that last longer than an entire console generation become common, then Sony's model of having 5-7 year console gens will quickly become outdated.
Secondly, you don't have to announce a game the very moment you start on it. And CDPR have announced, produced and released several games since first announcing Cyberpunk. One of those being the Witcher 3. Surely they knew in 2012 that the target consoles would have been the 8th gen, just like TW3. How does a dev go from announcing a game yet seemingly targeting two gens ahead? This is just a case of Cyberpunk being over-developed. They started, and just kept throwing in more and more as time went by, with no clear end target. It's how games get stuck in dev hell, and why it took do long and still have to crunch and delay.
Just lower the definition to 480p/15FPS. I'm sure people won't notice.
Dying Light had its last-gen version cancelled, that could also be what is happening with the sequel, given the delays it has also experienced.
For those interested, the original Dying Light is running a Halloween event with a Left 4 Dead crossover.
Might pop this game on the 'PS5 list' and not bother with it on my 4. I have too much to play at the mo' and as soon as my Monzo pot hits £450 it's PS5 town, baby!
Guess I am getting the PC version then. I have a base ps4 and a base xbone so I don’t need them to catch fire.
Hahahaha. So it did go gold then.
@Total_Weirdo rolls eyes
Personally, I just want the game to come out. Idc how it looks as long as I can enjoy the actual gameplay.
@oldschool1987 At CDPR, God forbid they follow a release date
@Entrr_username I have a feeling they'll delay again lol
At the moment CDPR are only 100% sure that the game is completely ready for PC. I am not sure how they can be certain that the game is ready for next-gen consoles which haven't arrived yet. It seems that they are waiting to test the game on PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X/S once they released on November 12 and November 10 respectively. Want to know more about cyberpunk 2077 and its various features, take a look at psychosquad.com which is one of the best sources to know everything about this upcoming RPG.
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