PS4 Exclusive God of War Releasing on PC in January

PC players are in for a treat. Also, this is a really smart move for Sony in order to get more people interested in Ragnarok. I just hope it's optimized well at launch.

I already played it twice, so nope (also I don't have a gaming PC). Good for PC gamers though.
Brb, going to Twitter to learn how this is the end of PlayStation again.

It’s a smart business move. Get people hyped again after it’s been out a few years. I expect this to be a standard practice from now on after an exclusive has been out for 3 years

The akward moment that a 2018 game might have better graphics and controls than the newly expected cross-gen sequel.

God of War on steam deck 🤔
Aside from that, I expect Twitter to implode any second now….

GET YOUR KEYBOARDS READY!

This just solidifies Sony's approach to releasing games on PC. It happened with Horizon Zero Dawn once we knew Forbidden West was coming, and now it's God of War's turn with Ragnarok not far off. Makes total sense from a business point of view, and grows the potential audience for the upcoming sequels.

Plus, let's be honest, the more people that play God of War, the better. Brilliant game.

Oh, ok. I'm starting to save money for a PC. I already play games 10-12 months after launch at the earliest so it stands to reason that buying a PC is the best option now. Especially when Jim Ryan says Sony wants to reach wider audiences with their games.

The era of exclusives is over. Consider everything temporarily exclusive from now on. Not that I care, might as well switch to pc gaming at some point. At least there I don't have to deal with Sony's censorship.

Guys that are looking for a PS5. Stop looking. There won't be a reason to get one soon by this point 🤦‍♂️
My only hope is that this leads to even better games...

This isnt bloodborne

Can already see the dislike bar going up. "Wish more people could play x game!" > Releases on PC "Waaah, you can't have my game!" It's just sad honestly.

Im happy to see more people get to enjoy this. Releasing games on PC a few years after their console release is perfectly fine and benefits more.

I though that sony and amd were tight yet all i see is the nvidia name..

Sony is eliminating the advantages of PlayStation.

I wish Sony will make their own PC Store/launcher in the future so we can earn trophies, message PSN friends, etc. on PC. I'm down to rebuy these games again if that happens.

So glad I switched to Atari for this generation. Sony are phonies. Blue Lightning for me this weekend!!!!

Hooray!!! Very good news

I'm pretty certain Hermen talked about saturation of sales on the PS consoles and 20 million seems pretty saturated to me.

PC players are in for a solid game.

Give me that 21:9 aspect ratio and on PS5 please…pretty please!!

Good for PC gamers. I don't see how anyone would have an issue with this, the game's almost 4 years old in Jan.

Yeah this is a no-brainer. Any negative sentiment around this is maybe a bit dramatic. Nobody is going to really buy a playstation to play this game as they would have mostly done it by now already. They will however get a ps5 to play the latest one. Therefore getting pc gamers hooked onto the older game will potentially increase the audience for the upcoming one. It makes financial sense.

I have no problem with sharing previous PS exclusive titles with other platforms. It certainly makes sense from a business point of view and a broader range of players get to enjoy amazing games on their gaming device of choice. Personally, I would love to see Microsoft do the same with their exclusive IP's. I feel Sony are really leading the way in regards to player inclusivity.

Fanboys on the official blog post aren't taking this news well. Glad I'm not devoted to a billion dollar corporation...

I have zero issues with games releasing on PC, but only as far as it's not on the same day as Playstation. And even in the case, Sony starts releasing games on PC day one, I have zero right or power to complain.

It's been fun having exclusive games on a console, I suppose the world is moving forward and this is the best for everyone.

This is great news. I'll look forward to tweaking the setting on this game.

Great game, but every game that was exclusive to the Playstation ecosystem that they port to PC is another reason to not buy Playstation hardware. I'm not sure this is good for the Playstation brand.

Already discussions about if Gran Turismo 7 will come to PC already started appearing on my PlayStation group messages following this announcement.

How people can take an announcement for the original God of War on PC and link it to an upcoming game is always beyond my mind...

I know there was the Nvidia leak list but still...give it time people!

Redman featuring method man.whathever man.haha😄.word up son

I am seeing what VITA 2 should have been.

Sony 1st party games + top tier online platform + the best 3rd party support in handheld history.

And it is called SteamDeck. Keep them coming Sony.

Every playstation games wil be ported to pc, we already know this after days gone get a pc version. In the middle or the end of ps5 life cycle, I think all playstation games will release for playstation console and pc at the same time.

Played it twice.. Couldnt give a stuff personally, but hey people need something to get all sweaty about..

Don't want to game on PC, as work all day on one.. So I'm fine with it...

Anyway..

reaches for second bag of popcorn

@Telekill I don't think having the older game on pc will be a negative to sales for playstation hardware. Most people who were willing to buy a console for the likes of the older iterations of GOW or Horizon would probably have done it by now.

I hope that in some way this pressures Sony in the future and Sony has to start releasing all games either day one to PC or very soon after their PlayStation release.

I’m ready to make the jump to PC. Hopefully this is a big success for Sony and there won’t be a PS6, Sony goes software only.

I own 2 PS5s, but if I could play PC, Microsoft and Sony games all on a PC I’d definitely make the jump. It’s getting close, but Sony needs to support PC just a little bit more for that to happen for me.

I hope the PS5 is the last Sony console.

It’s so dumb that people get up in arms about this stuff. “You’re making PlayStation obsolete!!” Yeah man all you have to do now is wait 3 years to play a game most of us couldn’t wait 3 days to play. If you’re down to wait that’s awesome but you’re an extreme minority here.

Sonys an idiot if their strategy for bringing the only thing that gives the Playstation value to PC is to entice PC gamers to buy a PS5 for these games sequels. Because any PC gamers with brain cells can tell their going to bring Ragnorok to PC as well in a few years so there's no point in owning a PS5.

@OmegaStriver I couldn't agree more.

Cool, great game, reminds me I should play through again on PS5 before Ragnarok comes out

I just wish Nintendo would put their exclusives on PC. I enjoy Nintendo games but if I could play them on anything that is not a Nintendo console that would be the dream. I like playing on Playstation hardware so this doesn't effect me much but good for PC players.

@Ken_Kaniff And yet, the ps5 will continue to break records and ragnarok will sell 20 million copies. Funny how that works!

Wow! This popcorn is delicious. 🍿

@Telekill

"...port to PC is another reason to not buy Playstation hardware"

The people who only want to spend $400 and not deal with Windows will disagree.

The sad part is that God of war PC will look better (native 4k! higher textures!) and run better (120fps!) then the PS5 version of Ragnarok 😋 I don't really care either way, I will enjoy my PS5 for as long as possible till I jumpship next gen.

Good for PC gamers, not sure for PlayStation. This feels a little like Nintendo releasing Mario Odyssey on PC, God of War is tied to PlayStation since ever. I hope it doesn't impact the brand.

Happy for those who will play it for the first time though!

@Amppari Sony is riding on the coattails of the success of the PS4 atm. Sony just started this PC porting around the start of this generation. Once the majority of Sonys catalog is on PC and the casuals see they can play all their games on PC instead of wasting money on a console that record breaking will stop.

God of War is 3 years old now, holy cow!
But yeah, I doubt we will be seeing a D1 release on PC on future titles as it may hurt the hardware sales.

As ever, this doesn't bother me. How many more copies was it realistically going to sell on PS4/5.

My only issue is that it was ported in house which potentially took resources away from Ragnorak or SM Studios other title. Have to assume work on this started a long time before Nixxes came in house .

I think it needs to be accepted that this is Sony's strategy now. And i dont see the problem. It's been 3 years since it launched so it in no way damages Playstation

I feel sony should have kept 1 or 2 franchises as playstation exclusive, GoW and Uncharted seemed the best ones to keep but i guess everything is going up.

@Juanalf Don't worry not all of us have PCs of that calibre (I do of course but that's another matter ;P), but I'm glad that we've moved on from the exclusives hogging mentalities of the last generation and realize that PlayStation isn't going anywhere as a physical console for a long time yet.

@Agramonte Yeah I think people forget most console gamers are hardware casuals that aren't interested in building pcs. My friend does all my pc building for me or I wouldn't bother lol. Besides these games will sell on hype and impatience. PC-only gamers that enjoy the game will expect it to have a very late release on pc and many won't want to wait that much longer. Us gamers are an impatient lot haha.

It's really sad how negative this comment section is, why is it so bad if PC players get to play it now?

I'm very pleased to see Sony's strong commitment to the PC market through offering extensive features and options for their ports, and God of War's listed features show that Sony has definitely come a long way since the somewhat hampered launch of Horizon Zero Dawn's PC port. I definitely look forward to replaying this great game again on much more powerful hardware this time round, and experiencing it like new.

More or less like the previous ports its nearly a 3 year old game.

Whoever that was going to buy a PlayStation 4 to play it would have done so a fair while ago.

It makes perfect sense to release older titles on PC - bar the porting costs, its basically free money to further develop new first party titles. Plus, people who had no plans to ever buy a PlayStation now have the opportunity to play it.

You'd honestly think Sony are releasing the game at the same time as on console given some of the stupid comments here.

People who really want to play a certain game aren't going to wait 3 years on the eventual PC port on the basis of what Sony are doing.

Everybody got their Steam Decks pre-orders? This baby is gonna play like a dream on it. Also PlayStation fans shouldn't get so worked up over it. Think about the mods?

I don’t know why people are so up in arms about Sony releasing older games on PC, especially when a sequel is right around the corner. This to me signals that Sony is aware their strength is in their exclusives portfolio and they are playing to their strength.

I’m sure Sony feels that their games are good enough that if people play them on PC and the sequel is locked to PS4/PS5 that those PC players won’t want to wait 2-3 years to play the sequel and go out and purchase a console to play them on. Seems like a logical conclusion to me.
When games start getting released day and date with PC then it’s concerning, but until then people’s doom and gloom is just hyperbole.

@solocapers Days Gone was barely 2 years old when it released on PC

Soon Day1 PC releases will happen (see the recent Jim Ryan Interview) and then its basically over for PS in the console market. In comparsion to XSX they only have their First Party Games that speaks for their console and then they wont even have that lol. No Handheld anymore in a time where Handheld Gaming is getting more popular every year, weaker Hardware, no GP, lacking Backwards Compatibility, Occolus doing VR better and cheaper, no real Next Gen Game until 2023 at least...

Nintendo has all those issues too (minus the no Handheld ofc) but at least they are smart enough to keep their System Sellers only on the Switch for that reason

God of Boi is a fantastic game and PC only peeps are in for a treat.
I can't wait for the hilarious mods.

Who cares if it goes on PC. It’s a great game and the more people who play it the better. It has been out for a few years. The people saying they’d rather get a PC need to realise the consoles are a steal for what’s in them and you’ll be paying a lot more for a similar spec PC.

Hell yeah, great news!

I HATE that SONY are doing this :-/ So SONY think doing this will bring more people to PlayStation!?!? LOL:D That is what Microsoft thought and they are hardly selling that many consoles anymore. Oh dear this is a BIG MISTAKE :-/

@Amusei Nonsense

Honestly, I'm kind of relieved that this has been announced because as someone who still hasn't bought a PS5 I can readily admit I no longer have any interest in getting one now or any future Sony games on PlayStation anymore.

It seems Sony no longer sees exclusives as an incentive to buy their console anymore when tentpole titles like this make their way to competing platforms. When the official blog post is touting features like "true 4k resolution" and "unlocked framerates" on PC, they're simultaneously disparaging their own system's capabilities and the loyal fans who bought the game and console believing it was the optimal way to experience it.

People will say it's 4 years since release or whatever but for me it's the principle, I no longer desire to be taken advantage of paying premium prices for less than premium experiences which can now be had by simply being patient on PC along with a whole boatload of other benefits.

It's already been on PS Now (twice) and PS Plus Collection for PS5, plus the countless sales the game has had. Makes sense to add this next to PC

@Carl-G Difterence is Sony's not releasing PS ports day and date on PC. Sony porting 2-3 year old Playstation classics. Microshaft do and it makes Trashbox the most optional console ever. That the reason PS5 is trouncing Trashbox in worldwide sales. Not even close

Technically, this has already been playable on PC via PS Now.

@marty8370 They will do this soon tho

@CynicalGamer

Yep. And People were already compaining that the PS5 was "Big"

HYTE Revolt 3 is $129 just for the case and then you stuck paying a premium because you can only buy iTX mobos.

End up with a NewEgg ATX Tub Special in your living room to meet the $400 budget, a PS5 will look Small 😅

@truerbluer Nonsense. If you want to play Playstation games on PC, are you prepared to wait 2-3 years. I'm not, thats why I game on PS5/PS4 in BC mode

@IonMagi Nope never

@truerbluer What a dumb view

Only games I have on my PS4 are exclusives. If I can play those on PC either through official release or PSNow just have to wait a couple of years, I'm fine to do so.

This may be the end of end of me buying a PlayStation ever again.

@marty8370 Bro, Jim Ryan literally said that he wants to reach way more Players with their First Party Games and that it is impossible with the current Console Model. And Herman also didnt rule it out when he spoke about it

Wonder if it will have DRM I don't think horizon or days gone did because they were cracked really quickly

@IonMagi Days Gone was more or less a commercial flop.

Again the reason being more or less anyone that was gonna buy it would have bought it already.

PS4 games is fine 🤷🏼‍♂️ Not really news
I don’t know why the subtitle tries to make it sound like ‘ this will go down well’

@eltomo yeah a lot of PC Gamers think like you now. Sony will loose out on many Software and console sales with that. Especially since Games will 100% start to drop either day 1 on PC or shortly after that

Great news for PC gamers!!

In the business world, I believe they call this strategy "money for old rope".

Meh. Nearly four years after it's initial release on PS4, as long as they never release Sony games on both PS and PC on the same date then I'm fine with it.

I'd rather they kept exclusive games actually exclusive but the moment it was announced that HZD was going to be released on PC, this was always on the cards.

So it looks like PC for me in the future. Strange decision from a business point of view in my opinion, but it's always better if more people can play the best games.

@marty8370 Yes, I can easily wait 2-3 years. Enjoy paying £70 for games and PS+ subscriptions to have the privilege to play those games online!

@marty8370 What is nonsense? Sony censors games, primarily animé. More and more PlayStation exclusives are coming to pc. If it weren't for its ease of use, I wouldn't need a console and play on pc.

@truerbluer For real bro, I rarely pay full price for games. Way too expensive, unless I really want to play it, I don't mind waiting a few years. Plenty of games.

With all those comments everywhere about not buying a PS5 anymore since everything comes to PC anyway you must be a highly naive and delusional Fanboy to not see the damage this is causing lol

People seem to be jumping the gun here. It's great that PC players are going to get to play GoW but it seems like Sony's approach with it is that the games will be exclusive for a couple of years...and they've only released a few of their games on PC so far. There's no guarantee yet that every game Sony makes will jump to PC, not like Microsoft's games anyways, and I'm not sure where people immediately got to that leap in logic.

Interesting the various coping mechanisms going on in the comments. Some angry. Some trying to convince themselves that this is to get people hyped for the next god of war. Some convincing themselves they're fine with it long as it's last gen games. Some convincing themselves that PC releases will never be day and date.

PC gamers, with pc gaming rigs, that haven't bought into the PlayStation ecosystem yet, are not going to suddenly invest in ps5s after playing this.
Just like the majority of console players don't suddenly invest in gaming PC's when the same games are on pc.

This isn't a marketing tool designed to sell more copies of the next god of war on ps5. This is simply how things are right now - Sony has told you they want their games on pc. Sony has invested in studios purely to help speed up this. Sony will follow in Microsofts footsteps and eventually release games simultaneously on both platforms. This is their goal. Because they know that the vast majority of the millions that own consoles aren't on forums moaning about games coming to pc. They're casual gamers who buy like two games a year but sub yearly to plus to play with their friends. And this will be why even though playstation games will keep coming to pc...we'll still end up paying more as MP will always be behind a paywall for us.

So yeah, playstation games going to pc is inevitable. Accept it. But it's ok to not blindly accept it...as the question should eventually be asked - if this benefits all of us then why are we being charged to unlock multiplayer when PC gamers aren't.
Maybe right this second this is more an Xbox issue as playstation first party is mainly narrative driven single player affairs. Maybe when a game with mp hits pc and playstation that conversation will be sparked.
Maybe the conversation that will come earlier with Sony games will be if these games have more graphical options on pc, yet not releasing at £70 on the platform.

@AdamNovice I said this in another thread, but no one seems to have picked up on the fact that Uncharted 4 remaster is coming day and date to pc. I know it's not technically a new game, but the remaster of it IS and hasn't been on playstation systems previously. I think they're testing the waters for day and date releases down the line, as there hasn't been a storm of controversy surrounding that announcement I can see it happening more regularly.

@IonMagi
You don’t need a PS5 to play GOW

@ATaco because why would Sony suddenly stop with the PC Ports?

@Rural-Bandit
Xbox day 1 on pc not too much of an issue. )well not for me anyway) Imagine if on pc you get both Xbox and PlayStation games on day 1. Just think and you will see it’s a different issue. BOTH

@JJ2 since PS5 Games will also be on PC soon after that you wont need a PS5 at all

Thank God we’re not seeing the outrage people once had with these pc releases. Can’t wait to see the DF breakdown

@IonMagi
Then I will agree if they are day 1. I don’t agree as of now. I only care about facts.
Facts are : no. (As of now that’s a lie and it’s been about PS4 1P games)
All PS5 games don’t go to PC day 1 as far as I know

I hope they do a shoddy job and it's basically unplayable on PC. You know, a reversal of Cyberpunk.

😁

Oh and I hope Nintendo feel really really bad about depriving PS only gamers of BotW and release it on PS. After all, think of the sales!

😉

See, when people talk about the end of exclusivity they're basically referring to Sony only.

@IonMagi how is releasing a 3+ year old game on pc going to damage anything?

@theMEGAniggle Days Gone was barely 2 yeara old so its not "3 years+". And very soon all the old Games worth a PC Port will be on PC and they obviously wont stop then lol.

Only reason why I'm looking forward to this is to see all the youtube videos of crazy mods people are going to make for this.

I guess that Nvidia leak was accurate when it had listed God of War. Now I fully expect the PS5 games that were listed to come to PC too: Demon's Souls, Returnal, Horizon Forbidden West and Gran Turismo 7.

I'm curious to see if those rationalising these PS4 ports as simply old games will change their tune when PS5 games start getting ported quicker than anticipated.

PC players are in for a great time

@IonMagi i LOVE seeing people like you cry everytime sony announces a pc port, more are coming!

@RBMango do you believe pc gamers will purchase a ps5 for ragnarok? there is a reason why they never owned a ps4 or why they missed out on god of war in the first place. they will simply wait for ragnarok to get an inevitable pc release so i wouldn't expect this strategy to impact hardware sales for the better — perhaps for the worse, though.

I didn't care with Horizon and Days Gone, but with this, Uncharted, the Geforce Now leaks, and the Jim Ryan interview it clearly seems less like "Sony wants to give PC players a taste of what PS5/4 has to offer" and more like the Xbox model being the endgame or something similar. I'm sad that will be the case since I liked and grew up with the traditional model of making unique exclusives to sell unique hardware and I feel the consoles will have less value. What really irritates me though is if that's the case, I can't believe Sony is going to charge me $70 for their new games when PC will get them for like $50 in 2 years (at the latest) with better performance and features(DLSS, Ultrawidescreen). That's gonna cause me to sell my PS5 and go PC if anything.

You know, I feel like many here are appraising this, but I'd go a step further and say I wouldn't mind Sony making a PC Launcher instead of a PS6. Sorry Pushsquare, no idea what would happen to this site if that did ever happen. It's just eventually we could see prices of PC parts drop more and more focus towards making the games as best as they can be. Also, no exclusives! I guess a sub service plus prices on top (Amazon prime comes to mind... Who even subs to that nonsense?) could still come along and ruin it, though.

@Amppari im not crying, Im only realistic enough to think how this will impact the future of Sony I already own a Gaming PC and, like many others, wont be buying overpriced 80€ Games on PS5 anymore since they will be less than half of this price on Key Seller sites when they soon come to PC shortly after release

@Boodog actually, i am seeing mostly positive comments on here and only a handful of negative ones. seems like the hardcore sony fans have already thrown in the towel and no longer care about lack of playstation exclusivity. i was passionate about this topic a year ago but now i am over it as well. only sony will be able to evaluate if this impacts their business positively or negatively (as it could have an impact on their own hardware sales for the worse).

@Jayofmaya but you would need to pay $2000+ for a decent pc (if you can even find the compnents you need haha) to play ps5 games as opposed to the $600 asking price of a ps5. there is certainly better value for gamers when playing on a console, not to mention a better user experience on the whole and ease of use. moving over to pc would be one of the worst moves for sony as they would lose half of their market of users in the transition.

Expecting the "can this be on switch" comments...

Wow, Sony giving up the PS4’s literal highest-rated exclusive already. Well, just like with HFW, I have to wonder by how much Ragnarok was pushed back so that Santa Monica’s devs could work on this. It’s not like Nixxes is doing these port jobs all on their own.

But that’s okay, because we’re all perfectly fine with having to wait that much longer Sony’s first-party games because they want to chase after the PC market, aren’t we? I mean hell, at this point, I think Jim Ryan is just actively looking for ways not to benefit us PlayStation owners. ‘Cause it’s clear as day we aren’t the apple of Sony’s eye anymore. Nope. PC and soon mobile are, and we PS owners are just the chumps that Sony wants to mislead and charge out the ass.

In any case, give us day-and-date releases already and be done with it, Sony. We know now that we’re full steam ahead towards a future where PlayStation has no exclusives anymore, and we would appreciate you no longer letting us believe otherwise.

@Porco I think if Sony were to invest in PC components built by Sony instead (which would probably be an likely in this hypothetical circumstance) then prices would drop. However, I agree. The thing that consoles always have is ease of use. The less technical minded and busy of us would certainly lose interest in gaming. It would have to be made easier somehow for sure.

@Zag_Man 😂😂😂. Yeah. In the meantime ps5 is the fastest selling ps ever. That's despite people seeing that ps exclusives would come to pc.

"I was going to buy a PS4 in the New Year sales to play God of War but now I can just play it on my PC instead" said no one ever. One of the few ways for this game to make more money now.

@Porco you dont need to pay 2k+ for a decent PC lol, especially it you build it yourself

Jim Ryan: Look you PlayStation faithful, take this framerate patch and like it!

Jim Ryan: Hello PC folks! Look what we got for you. God of War! True 4k resolution! Better shadows, improved reflections, new graphics options! Ultra Wide screen support! Plus DLSS! It's the definitive version! All only for 49.99!

PlayStation faithful: ugh wait a minute, what about us? All we get is a framerate patch? Not even native 4k?😠 We're the ones who pushed your sales to 19.55 million! You don't care about us?😢

Jim Ryan: Fine you little s***s, we'll give you a native port. $69.99!😊

PlayStation faithful: 😲😢

@RubyCarbuncle Because people bought PS consoles for the exclusive Games and nothing will be "Only on Playstation" anymore And the PS5 really has nothing else what they do better than the competition, they even lost the majority of its JRPG Playerbase to Nintendo

@IonMagi but dude, why is that bad? Old games are coming into pc… wow

If I saw Returnal on pc or Demon souls on pc before 2022 then I’d be a little bit worried but as far as most normal people are concerned, it’s not that serious to be moaning about.

@theMEGAniggle What do you think will happen once Uncharted 4 + LL will release on PC in like spring 2022 or so? Every old Game worth a thing will be ported to PC then so they obviously will soon port the way newer Games like GoT. TloU and BB will get a Remaster which will Launch on PC Day1 and Spiderman might depend on what Marvel/Disney has to say in that regards

@RubyCarbuncle I mean sure, PS5 Games that are kinda irrelevant like Sackboy wont be worth the Port but everything else will. And soon also after a way shorter time than now. You heard Ryan lamenting about wanting to bring their First Party Games to way more people recently

Soo this means bye playstation,getting best version for 40 bucks,don't mind a little wait,no paywall for mp titles and others to come. Incredible,they will undo everything done with ps4. Those who think ps5 games are not coming PC after couple of years are delusional. Well thx Jimmy boy,haha

@IonMagi People buy consoles to play games, not just exclusive games. Some decide which console to buy based on the exclusives but majority of the best selling games on consoles are multiplatform. Why isn’t everybody just getting those on PC? Because people like playing games on consoles (and the hardware being relatively cheap doesn’t hurt).
Also Sony games are still only on PlayStation for ~3 years (almost 4 in case of GoW).

@Voltan I mean PC is by far the biggest market for Gaming so tons of people already buy them there. With the difference that many PC Players who only bought a PS4 for the exlucive Games wont do that anymore for the PS5 because everything comes to PC. And like I already said here many times, very soon al the "3-4 year old" Games will be on PC and they will start porting the way newer ones. Days Gone was already only 2 years old

Well it's been a good run for the last 27 years Sony but here we are. PlayStation consoles are no longer special. The one thing that set them apart was exclusives.

I'm glad I haven't yet bought many games on PS5 due to my backlog. That's just means I now don't have to because if 2 or so years is all I have to wait at present for the best version then so be it.
You expect me to pay £70 plus an online fee to play the worst version of your games?
The writing is on the wall and day and date games are inevitable.

This will not sell PS5's for the new installment as now it's clear future games will be ported regardless where that wasn't apparent before.

Since you seem intent on treating loyal console owners who have stuck with you since day one of the PSone as second class then so will I.

The PS5 is going in the cupboard and a new PC will take its place. And as many PC players do, I'll be playing all of the best versions of your games for free.

@IonMagi I didn't say that. You guys are just jumping the gun and making claims that you realistically can't back up yet. This is one of those things where we'll have to wait and see exactly what Sony's plans are. Some of you guys talk like you're insiders and know the inner workings of the company.

To everyone spreading doom and gloom though, Xbox Series X is apparently still selling well despite their exclusives all coming out day and date on PC as well. If I had to guess this is either a kneejerk reaction from some of you or just others that hate PlayStation and are taking a stab at them right now.

@IonMagi Except most games don’t sell more on PC than consoles. Even shooters that are supposed to be “unplayable” without a mouse.

I could see a world where Sony saves the R&D costs to build new hardware and sell it at low profit to just delivering their games and making peripherals on pc. No more OS maintenance, move the store to 100% digital delivery to cut out disc production costs and remove reselling physical to maximize profits on games. Hardware wise they might make console PCs running windows and PSVR. Not saying I necessarily want this but it makes a lot of sense.

I hope they push for PC for PS5 games… may not need to buy a PS5 afterall. More games for everyone.

@Voltan We only ever have console physical sales so no one knows how much they sell on PC. CDPR Games and pretty much every Bethesda Game at least sell way more on PC. Cyberpunk had like a 70% ratio for PC

Sometimes Sony make some smart moves and this approach is one of them.

@ATaco Xbox Series still has other things going for it tho. Great Backwards Compatibility, a very cheap console with the XSS (Amazon Germany sold it for 250€ recently) for Gamers who are happy with 1080p resolution and Gamepass. And PS literally has nothing in comparsion. Same as Nintendo basically but they at least realize that and keep their First Party Games Switch only bc of that. Handheld Gaming being bigger as ever also is their big plus point

No doubt a strategic release with Ragnarok coming out next year. This will do big numbers on PC and get some new people interested in God of War as a series.

Pretty much everything comes to PC now except first-party Nintendo stuff. It'll be interesting to see if the time frames for these ports lessen over the generation. I could see a scenario where pretty much every playstation "exclusive" is going to PC a year or so out from release.

Well, that's fine. The more games they port to PC, the more games I can play portably on the Steam Deck I plan to eventually get.

There'll never be one platform that has access to everything, but PC is getting really, really close.

Atreus: Father, i'm sorry to say our game is not going to be PS exclusive any more!
Kratos: BOY! Don't be Sorry... be Better! Go make a STEAM account!

@IonMagi come on now. a videocard alone on par with the power ps5 offers will be $500+ easily. we haven't even talked about the cpu and nvme prices. we are no longer in a world where you can build a pc with ps5-like specs for under $2000. accessibility of parts is just as bad in the pc market as it is for sony right now so there would be absolutely no benefit in doing so.

@Jayofmaya one thing is for certain... it would be interesting if sony got back into the pc hardware space (they used to make laptops). they may one day develop a playstation pc to compliment their console division. that woud be something.

Eh, I've already come in terms with Sony releasing their 1st parties on PC. Just as long as it's not a day and day release, it's fine. You still need them exclusives to sell your console.

@Porco the PS5 GPU is about the same as the normal RTX 2070, a years old GPU that was cheap before the age or scalpers lol. A CPU with the same specs as the PS5 is not expensive at all and neither are 16GB Ram. I have an Gaming Laptop with a 2080 Super, i7 4,4GHZ, 1 TB m.2 SSD and 32GB fast RAM and it was slightly below 2000. And obviously these Specs are way better than the PS5 and Gaming Laptops cost way more than Desktop PCs

Great for PC gamers.

Doesn't bother me in the slightlest tbh but hurry up with that Bloodborne remaster!

Never played a God of War game before and I was never going to before now. Thanks Sony!

@Zag_Man You forgot the advantages of moving to PC 😐 You won't have to pay the ridiculous $70 for games, won't ever need to pay for online and all while having the best version of said game.

As for the cost of a top of the line rig like Flossy Carter says "You gotta pay to play so let's play" 🙂

Even if Sony released games on pc on the same day, I would buy the playstation version as I don't have a gaming pc and have no desire to buy one.

Tired of all the console war nonsense these days. I'm happy more people get to play this game on an open platform that will get more revenue for even more great PlayStation games to come in the future.

@mrtennis1990 Mate, all the extra revenue will go into the pockets of already rich executives. There is ZERO benefit to PS loyalists.

Sony should have followed the lead of their fellow Japanese gaming company not bloody Microsoft. Buy a PC, you also more than likely buy Windows as well. Sony have fallen for Microsoft's trap.

It won't change my plans as I don't like PC gaming but millions out there will be much less inclined to buy a PS5 and will look at alternatives. Maybe that's Sony's plan, to become a software only developer.

Keep your exclusive games, exclusive. It's a worrying trend and it's only going to get worse.

I don't see Xbox gamers clamouring for Starfield and TES 6 to come to PS, the very opposite in fact. Switch owners aren't up in arms over how unfair it is the latest Mario or Zelda game aren't being released on other platforms. Why are Sony fans expected to be generous and not others?

How is this a negative to anyone? You choose a $500 easy to use box, I choose a $1500+ customized rig. I love all the people who say it makes Playstation hardware pointless, then they look at the prices of GPU's and go right back to their console. I mean ***** some of you had a hard time putting in the Ps5's secondary SSD, do you really want to get into PC gaming?

Wow this comment section is toxic.... And PlayStation loyalist? Sony doesn't care if you are loyal to them just like Xbox or Nintendo dont care either.

@Col_McCafferty I actually agree with you when it comes to the point of people not needing to get the ps5 hardware if games start coming to pc closer to day and date. I appreciate the response mate!

huh? what is the point in owning sony hardware again if they release on pc anyways?

@gollumb82 pc imo is a worth while investment, for naughty games aswell as easy access to pc games and better higher resolutions...

currently playing yakuza 3-5 remaster on pc and i wish that judgement would hurry up and come on pc too.

@IonMagi I've seen you say several times in this comments section the games will come to pc day one? Please show us exactly where Jim Ryan said this? He said he wants to get the games to as many people as possible! There are many ways to do this. Mobile, streaming( possibly netflix), the older games to pc as we're seeing.
And the whole just build your own pc makes me laugh. I gamed on pc exclusively for over 20 years. I spent £1000s on new systems, upgrades and monitors over that time just to keep up. Then there is the whole patches, gpu drivers and the big one, cheating! It's massive on pc.
The vast majority of people that buy consoles just want the convenience of putting a box under their TV, turning it on and gaming. You think parents are going to start going out and building their kids pcs? Going to keep upgrading it? No they want to buy a box and not worry for 7 years.
The last pc I had built 4 years ago my eldest plays on. Cost me £1500 and the ps5 is more powerful now. I'm an old git now, I like sitting on my sofa in front of my 55 inch TV with the dualsense. And I'm certainly not prepared to wait 3 to 4 years to play the next GOW.
Personally I think it's a genuis move by Sony. Make millions more from old games, and spread the brand. So they lose a few thousand hardware sales, they potentially could make many many more from people like myself.

@Amusei Tell that to Nintendo and Microsoft

Everyone has fair points so far, quite an enjoyable comments section. My two pence;

Sony are using staff to develop these ports when we are crying out for PS5 stuff. I think that's fair and I want more games!

What's the point in buying into an ecosystem if it's games are being built towards the lowest common denominator - In this instance, low end PCs?

Is this PC centric direction because of Chinas appetite for PC gaming? And loads of Chinese companies are about to bring crazy good PC games out? They hardly have a console market to speak of. I think this is the most reasonable hypothesis. Sony and Microsoft are trying to cater to a new group of gamers brought into gaming through MMOs and mobile crap. Whoopee the golden age is behind us people.

Sod it. PS5 will be my last console. I'm taking up going outside and gardening.

@IonMagi so what? You keep saying the same thing but so what? Old games will come onto pc…… wow

Get that fake outrage outta here

Got to love this community on push square..so god of war is coming to the pc after 3 years..so what? I have a pc that will play games (not the modern releases granted..well not with all the bells and whistles anyway) but i choose to play on my ps5 because i'm getting older and lazier in my gaming habits and i just cant be arsed with updating gpu drivers etc,etc anymore..i'm happy playing my ps5 versions and i dont get this "i'm not buying another sony console again" or the "i'm done with sony now" mentality...how sad and entitled you sound..one person on here even said they had never played god of war and never intended to either..so why are you commenting on a topic that is about a game you never intended to play? Just to try and make yourself relevant thats why bucko..jog on..play games on whatever platform you choose and be happy...is it really that hard to be content with what you have?

@truerbluer I expect those games to hit PC at the end of lifetime of PlayStation 5, after PlayStation 6 or whatever will be announced.

@viktorcode I don't like companies. I like videogames. Sony are not the good guys, neither are the others.

@Serialsid finally somebody actualy made sense..i salute you..

And the PS5 gets the next gen upgrade too? For 10$? Or now we doesn't have this chance now? Or it's already sold on PS4 be happy with the 60 fps unlock?

@viktorcode If the people in charge of PlayStation were smart they would hold on to the current gen exclusives at least for the duration of the generation. However the Nvidia leaks prove otherwise and I predict we'll start to see some of them announced next year, certainly by the end of 2023 - it would align with their statements of an expected 2 year gap between platforms.

@gollumb82 I think he wont care you still wikl buy the game in the end.

@themcnoisy Congrats its a 3 year old game. 🤪

I am a pc gamer most of the time, but I like the idea of exclusive games for consoles. When i bought N Switch 2 years ago, there was so many exclusive games that I didn’t play on pc. 2-3 months ago i bought a ps4 pro, played so far god of war and tlou. I found myself skiping some good games that were exclusive for sony at some point, because i already played them on pc. I can understand why some will not buy a sony console if more exclusive games will come to pc.

Now imagine if gpu's sold at MSRP and not to scalpers how bad the ps5 would look. RTX3070 with 499$..would you choose a ps5 knowing that sooner or later there would be no difference in the game library with a PC?

@Serialsid Herman didnt rule it out during his Interview back then when HZD came to PC so its basically confirmed He even said the same line as Phil Spencer and like 2 years later they started with Day1 Releases lol

@truerbluer it will be funny once PS5 Games come to PC because they will run on any HDD which will prove that the PS5 SSD is completly overhyped

@Flaming_Kaiser
I know. But I will be gaming on a platform that gives me access to all Xbox exclusives and most PS exclusives. With the best backwards compatibility, too. It costs twice as much as a PS5, sure, but at least you can get the games on the cheap. The Last of Us coming out on PC will be the final straw for me and I expect it to happen sooner rather than later.

@gollumb82 Im to lazy to be bothered with a PC and i just love the Playstation platform when the consoles end i will probably go retro.

Think this make total sense from both the business side a consumer side. Business side means Sony can make money from selling the port and more importantly bring in new fans for the sequel which will drive more console sales. And for the consumer it means more people get to experience an amazing 10/10 game without any ps players feel cheated as the game came out 3 years ago and up to this point fallen largely out of relevance and off most people's radar.

@edwardex people just enjoying crying and complaining like children, putting old games on pc doesn't take any reason away from getting a ps5

@IonMagi You are free to predict "The end of PlayStation" then, by all means go ahead. You can try to convince people not to buy the "dying console" all you want. At the end of the day though there will always be people that simply don't want a PC. They want a box they can set up in their living room, hook up to their main tv and turn on to play games for a while. It doesn't really get deeper than that for most people.

Are people really still under the delusion that this will only ever be older games? Have we all not seen the Nvidia leak which showed that even games that haven't come out on PS5 yet (GT7) are ALREADY being primed for a PC port?

The window of exclusivity will inevitably shrink. Sony's going the way of MS, just a matter of when.

@art_of_the_kill do you wanna make a bet?

It does seem to me that it's devaluing the playstation brand somewhat, but I guess they've had plenty of meetings about it and know what they are doing.

If you’re a patient person and can wait 1 or 2 years you can play PlayStation ‘exclusives’ on a PC going forward it seems. Great time to be a PC gamer. Personally I like ease of use of the consoles so stick to them but there’s no denying Sony Exclusives are becoming well… less exclusive.

A lot of Sony fans like to laugh at Xbox having no exclusives because they also release on PC, can’t really laugh at them anymore as Sony are doing the same, only with a slightly different strategy.

@zebric21 you realize you need a cpu , psu , ram , hard drive , ect ,ect. if you want something that will last you are looking to at least dropping over 2k at the end of it.

@Fenbops
" A lot of Sony fans like to laugh at Xbox having no exclusives because they also release on PC, can’t really laugh at them anymore as Sony are doing the same, only with a slightly different strategy.". Check mate this is the only reason PlayStation loyalist are mad. TheY lose one less argument over xbox

@art_of_the_kill that list doesn't mean anything. i mean mario games were on that list too.

Great news, glad more people will get to play this game, I thoroughly enjoyed it when I finally got round to it last year.

As for the death of PlayStation, I doubt it. Might there be a few lost PlayStation sales? Sure, but most people who buy a console do so because they want something they can just turn on and play games on their TV with no hassle. I've been almost exclusively playing on PC most of my life, but the amount of time you spend fiddling with stuff isn't zero, and it's really annoying when you have an hour or so to sit down to play a new game and half of that is taken up with other stuff. It only happens once in a blue moon, but on my PlayStation I know that's not going to happen. The PS5 also cost less than a new graphics card, and I know it'll play everything for the next 5-7 years. That's a lot of peace of mind. I'll probably be building a new rig when Windows 10 is EOL, but only to play stuff with a big modding scene, or which isn't on PlayStation, because having gamed exclusively on PC for most of the last decade, I'm really enjoying my PS5.

@IonMagi nothing is confirmed, just what you want to believe in your head. At no point have they said day and date releases. Would not make any business sense for Sony's model, it makes sense for MS.

@art_of_the_kill wow a leak said so. It must be true then!

@IonMagi Digital Foundry partially proved that when they tested R&C: Rift Apart with a slower speed SSD not on Sony's recommended list and found only negligible differences from the native PS5 SSD. Along with Sony's PS4-PS5 cross-gen commitment, PCs will have no problems running upcoming "PS5" games.

Oh wow... this is a tremendolously bad decision that will be payed with lost playstation 5 hardware and software sales.

good , the less exclusives for stuff , the better . tired of having to buy a whole console just because 1 game is on it that i wan't ; it ain't the 2000's anymore & im sure a huge amount of people feel this way about buying nintendo devices for example .

So what's the point of owning a Playstation now? Yes I can play the new God of War earlier but it will eventually trickle down to PC. I don't want to pay 70 dollars anyway for their new games so I just wait a couple years for it to release cheaper on PC.
Probably all exclusives will come from now on to PC. Does Sony just want to be like Sega now? Sony does realize that MS owns Windows right? The more games come to Windows the less reason is there for people to buy a Playstation.

I wonder why Nintendo does not release Breath of the Wild for PC? Maybe they want to keep people in their own ecosystem? Oh well Nintendo management is probably just not as smart as Jim Ryan.

People are gonna flip out over a 3-year-old game going to another platform? I don’t believe it... 😒

@AhmadSumadi My popcorn is ready.

@nomither6 well unfortunately, Nintendo has no interest in porting games to PC

I do see some sort of a pattern here. Sony is releasing games on PC that are getting sequels on the PS consoles. HZD, GOW, and I think U5 is in the works too so U4 got ported as well. So, I think we will see Spider-Man 2018 (and maybe even Miles Morales) on PC before Spider-Man 2 comes out on PS5.

@Jester1701one probably because Nintendo isn't interested in putting games in PC.

Also their business model is different compared to Sony and Microsoft, I believe.

@anoyonmus also, Nintendo doesn’t lower prices to their games and for some reason no one gets upset about it... 🤷🏾‍♂️

@anoyonmus there isn't much of a pattern when you consider day's gone and death stranding also got ported to pc. uncharted 4 is coming soon. sony's goal is to port its entire catalogue to pc.

@Porco well sorry. THEIR BIGGEST AND WELL KNOWN games are getting sequels and the prequels of the sequels are getting ported to PC.

I would guess Spider-Man 2018 and Miles Morales will make its way to PC eventually

@AhmadSumadi true. Oh yeah btw, I have been reading a lot of twitter comments and a lot of people are pretty mad about this. Those Playstation fanboys also said Nintendo understands the importance of exclusives and how important it is to the community

@ShogunRok I don't agree. Imagine what would happen to Switch sales if their games were on PC or PS5? It wouldn't have sold nearly as well. There might be no immediate consequences, but I think it will be a bad idea eventually. Only a good move in the short term. Honestly, next time leadership changes, it wouldn't surprise me if they reversed the decision. Might even pull some games from PC to solidify the message.

@Col_McCafferty
God of War and Horizon aren't coming to Xbox either. Xbox puts their exclusives on PC also, but you already know this. So I'm not sure why you think Sony is the only one being generous, which is a strange word to use. Seems they are taking steps to adapt to a changing market.

And here I am who still hasn’t played this game.

the "only on playstation" logo is now a thing of the past my friends... we are indeed living in strange times, lol!

You know that Sony will put games on pc day one soon, it's a money maker for em and like all companies they like to make money and no matter how many fans say no Sony don't they still will, the pc market is a massive one to just stick to games that have been out on console for years they will want the lion share of both console and pc ,it makes sense
And for all those who say pcs are more expensive yes you are correct but look at the choice you get when you play pc. Sony/Microsoft/epic/steam/ even vr games with quest blah blah you never miss out on a game again ( apart from nintendo)

I wouldn't be surprised if ragnarok they announce released the same time on pc and that's why gow is being released soon to get pc players who haven't played em into the franchise

I'm firmly in the camp of "If your IP is a console exclusive, one that's key to your brand, then it should stay that way"; the only reason why Sony and Nintendo stand out is due to their exclusive library; you remove that, and next thing you know, people suddenly won't care about which console they buy, because now, all of a sudden there's little reason to, because you're just choosing between three near identical boxes.

I've also never really bought into the argument of "But more people get to play it" for a number of reasons, but the number one gripe I have is the idea that it being a console exclusive is some sort of barrier. How? Unless you're a stickler for getting a PS5 (which admittedly seems to remain an unlikely prospect for a few more months at least) there's nothing stopping you from buying a PS4 or a Switch and playing their exclusive titles that way.

Whatever, at the end of the day its just a video game I don't really care. Release the same day as PC? Who cares, I don't have the time to complain about meaningless arguments.

@RedKnight34 good lord dont start this argument off again..i've made this point a few times in the past and some people just wont see the fact you cant make a pc for £450 that will perform the same as a ps5..if you are willing to spend around £800 then its possible...you are poking the trolls for no good reason my friend..

@truerbluer for a console the latest generations are amazing for what they offer in terms of everything (we have never had it better)..dedicated gaming pc's are going to be able to play ps5 games better than they run on said console but at a premium..not all pc's are created equally and there are always going to be people who bought a pc maybe 2 years ago lets say for arguments sake around a £1000 (probably mid to high spec,certainly not ultra super dooper) that are going to be faced with a hefty upgrade cost just to play a game...suddenly a £30 pc game becomes upwards of £300+...not for me i'm afraid and i am not knocking pc gamers (only the ignorrant know alls who just cant see past their 8ft long noses)..i'll stick with my ps5 for however long this gen lasts safe in the knowledge that it will run everything for years to come without pricey upgrades..can pc gamers say the same thing? Honestly?

Oh wow this is still going with 200+ comments?
I guess it makes sense since there isn’t much news/articles to talk about on Push.
Well congrats to PC owners who will be able to buy a last gen game that’s been available on PS+ for a while I guess.
And outrage about ‘All PS5 games will be on pC’ is a bit like an outrage about PlayStation stopping selling retails discs. That may happen one day but that’s building castles (PCs?) in the air.
Facts are a few PS4 games are getting ported and you can buy them again on PC. 🥱

@mucc
Haha that’s so true. It makes me laugh when people who are scared of using a screwdriver are bragging about PC gaming. 😂
There’s absolutely nothing worth getting worried about a few PS4 games you can buy on PC. It requires quite a few IFs to be worried about PlayStation in the long term.

Don't see why people are mad, all the good GoW games are still PS exclusive

@Ken_Kaniff "Sony is riding on the coattails of the success of the PS4 atm. Sony just started this PC porting around the start of this generation. Once the majority of Sonys catalog is on PC and the casuals see they can play all their games on PC instead of wasting money on a console that record breaking will stop."

And when you're proven wrong, I'm sure you'll admit you were mistaken. 100%.

@IonMagi "Soon Day1 PC releases will happen (see the recent Jim Ryan Interview) and then its basically over for PS in the console market. "

Nice crystal ball you got there. Define "soon". And wanna bet on it?

@naruball A timeframe from only 6 months would be already hurting console and Game sales lol. And yeah, Im taking the bet on it. Go back to the Herman Interviews when HZD was announced for PC, he didnt rule it out completly that Games will come to PC when they first Release. And also after Uncharted comes to PC in Spring/Summer every "old" Game worth a Port will be on PC (TloU is getting a Remake after all) and then what? You think they stop with the PC releases for 2022? No lol, they will obviously port the way newer Games then until the timeframe gets smaller and smaller. I mean they literally bought a Studio especially for PC Ports

@twitchtvpat paying more for a gaming pc is obvious but there is no online multiplayer paywall and also a PC can do some actual work too and make you money. Don't get me wrong i do prefer the console format any day but sony is walking a thin line to alienate their hardware efforts.

@IonMagi Please try to stick to one topic at a time. You asserted that "soon" there will be Day 1 releases. How soon? In a year? 2 years? When exactly? I'll wait so that we can place a bet.

@Northern_munkey I think you're forgetting that PCs have graphical settings that can be toggled, so even a PC that's 2 years old will have little trouble running PS5 games on low settings. Sure they won't look as good as PS5 does but they'll still have the most future-proof version of the game that they can maximise should they choose to upgrade in future, unlike the PS5 version.

I agree that at the moment the latest consoles are great value for performance but that's primarily due to how screwed the GPU market is. When that market does eventually stabilise PCs will become a far more attractive choice than ever before especially now with Sony blessing it with ports. Although the initial cost of a PC seems high, the long-term savings can be made through not needing to pay for online multiplayer and the games costing significantly less (good luck getting PC gamers to pay £70 for games). Not to mention there's also the piracy avenue available for stingy people.

@truerbluer 1. ps+ is not mandatory. People who don't play online don't need it. 2. ps+ comes with free games, themes, avatars, etc. So it's not like you're only paying for access to online multiplayer. 3. As for the games, prices come down faster than ever, so it's not like the average console gamer is paying £70 for a game.

@naruball 2023

Or 2022 if TloU2 Factions actually comes out then lol.

@naruball I don't understand what point you're trying to counter. People don't have to play online on PC either but they don't have to pay anything should they decide to. As for game prices, you can't really beat free can you? I know it's a taboo subject but the reality is that option is always going to be available and probably plays a large part in why PCs are so popular in less affluent places of the world.

Thankfully, as all the Sony 'exclusives' (can we call them that any more?) are releasing on the PS4 along with all the other big hitter titles so I can stand at the sidelines and watch this ****storm hit without spending a penny on new hardware.

Sony Worldwide need to rehire some people who actually gave a stuff about the PS brand and legacy and politely ask the current liabilities to bog off...

Not Bloodborne, but I'm glad nonetheless.

I finished God of War (2018) first time on PS5 just a couple of months ago, but I wouldn't mind playing on PC at native 4K.

@IonMagi I think Uncharted Legacy of Thieves Collection will be February or March given the "Early 2022" release window given in the PS Showcase. We'll probably see PC ports every 1-2 months and given how awkward it would be to start the Uncharted franchise with 4 and Lost Legacy, I'm leaning towards Nathan Drake Collection coming to PC in December 2021 (Game Awards shadow drop).

So that means that these graphical improvements will find its way to PS5 as well right? Right?

@Deadlyblack They could call it Mod of War

@truerbluer my points were clear. Not sure why you struggle to comprehend what I wrote.

You asserted that gaming on PC is cheaper in the long run partly because online is not behind a paywall. I explained that ps+ doesn't only give you access to online multiplayer. And if you don't play online at all, then you save nothing anyway.

As for piracy, it's completely irrelevant. The topic of discussion is whether Sony should have kept their first party games exclusive on ps consoles. They have nothing to gain from pirates, so bringing them up makes no sense in this particular case.

Smart move. Get them hooked and dying to play the sequel.

@IonMagi excellent. 2023 it is then. If first party ps games are not released day 1 on PC by the end of 2023, you have to change your avatar to the one I choose for you forever. Ok? Same for me. You can choose whatever you want. I don't mind.

@truerbluer you have to spend anywhere from £800 to £1500 for a decent pc to match the ps5. At least £400 on a graphics card to make it a bit future proof, and a decent Cpu and ssd(more games are requiring that now on pc). That's a big out lay. Yeah it's free to game online but enjoy all the cheaters and hackers. And this whole they get to game online for free is funny. You think people that can spend that sort of money would worry about £36 a year? That's the most I've ever paid(sony discounts it at least twice a year) and for that I get 36 plus games and cloud storage.
And yes games are £70, but they seem to drop very quickly. I've picked up games cheaper on the ps store in sales than steam are selling them at. Plus let's be honest most console buyers are casuals, they are not on a site like this. You think they can be bothered with graphics settings and updating the gpu drivers every month? That in 3 to 4 years they will have to start worrying if their pc meets the minimum requirements?

And the whole day and date argument is silly, as it would ruin the whole PlayStation business model. Sony needs to sell consoles, they need to have the ps store in people's homes. Last year they sold around 330 million games, and they have said themselves that digital now accounts for 71% of their sales. That is a massive amount of revenue for them, much bigger than putting the games on a pc where they would not get any cut of the 3rd party sales from people not buying their console. How many fifa/cod/battlefield sales would they lose? No they need to have ps5's in people's houses. I would bet anyone on here no ps5 exclusives will launch day and date this gen. The only time Sony will ever do this is when streaming is the only way. That boxes are no longer a thing, and then it will be a ps app on your TV or computer and you'll play them through their store.

@Darth_Stofi Maybe. For 80€ obviously tho

@naruball sure, and like I said Factions will be the first Day1 PC drop so it could already be 2022 when ND cleans up their messy production

@Serialsid very well said.

@Grumblevolcano Possible. GoT will then be end of 2022 most likely or the TloU Remake with Tlou2 following shortly after

Funny how Xbox Series S/X have sold over 6 million units, despite there not really being a single new game released on them that you couldn’t also play on PC. But yeah, a formerly exclusive game that’s soon four years old being released on PC is definitely the first sign of PS4/PS5 becoming obsolete.

Even if Ragnarok would come out on the same day on PS4/PS5 and PC, I don’t think millions of people would go ”Well gee, I better spend hundreds of dollars to upgrade my PC/buy a completely new one to play it there!” instead of just buying a console or the game for a console they already have. Even limited exclusivity isn’t going to suddenly make majority of the playerbase patiently wait for a very anticipated game to come out on PC instead.

I would honestly be glad if I there was a singular platform that I could play everything on, but until then, I continue to play on multiple platforms and have fun doing so.

ANYWAY…as for GoW, this is neat! Game already plays perfectly on PS5 for me, so I don’t have a reason to get it on PC, except maybe way later when it’s on sale and people have put out bonkers mods for it.

I think the big bet for sony is now to keep the promise for next-gen experiences..I will anxiously wait for the new HZD and GOD to see if they deliver in their cross-gen state or will be held back. Right now the ps5 seems like a ps4 pro 2.0.

@zebric21 they barely look better than their PS4 counterpart Games lol. Sad to think that not a single true Next Gen Game comes until 2023 or 2024

@IonMagi I don't care if they choose to port their flagship games to PC but don't make your loyal fans that happily paid premium so many years look like second class citizens..We were advertised ray tracing,VRR and next gen games..maybe start delivering Jim..

@truerbluer no i wasnt forgetting but you proved a point i was making..that is...wait for it...a pc that is of a certain age/price point wont be able to run a ps5 game to the same exact same level of fidelity..you said so your self.."Sure they won't look as good as PS5 does" and that was my point...thankyou..

Yay, time to play free of charge. Please release all your exclusive to PC, Sony.

BRILLIANT! Il snag this on steam and listen to mr Christopher judge with rtx on 🤣😂 iv upgraded my rig this is gona be FUN! BRING ON THE MODS! i wana see Teal'c instead of kratos! 😂🤣

Most of you guys are happy about Sony, saying smart move smart move. But I'm taking my feelings here: I HATE THESE DECISIONS. To hell with expanding the audience. It's like selling your dynasty cheap just to get extra dollars. Ok, go sell other stuff like days gone elsewhere, but not something that is part of your identity! F@#* you sony!

Exclusives no More. A PC and a switch is all you need to play EVERYTHING.

So much hypocrisy. So many shills saying it's great or awesome. Tell me 1, just ONE, advantage this brings to long time costumers of playstation. The people that have been loyal to the brand since PS1/2, what's so good about this? People here sound like simps.

@Oscarjpc as long as you've got patience then yes you might get to play "EVERYTHING", but it's not guaranteed and you don't know when! Me I like to play games when they come out. By the time they come to pc I'll be paying the next great Sony game. But hey you do you.

@ShogunRok....... But how much has HZD PC sold so far......... I can bet its already forgotten title in the PC community

@Oscarjpc do you understand what the word hypocrisy means? One advantage straight off, it gives Sony millions more revenue which they can put back into game development which we then all benefit from. Two it spreads the brand name and the quality of the games, potentially making new hardware customers which again gives them more money. I'm not saying it's awesome or great, just a smart business decision for them.

And if your that bothered about what a billion dollar company is doing and it effects you that much, just take your money elsewhere. I have no loyalty to any plastic box, I just like Sony's games and hardware. I find it strange you think just because you've bought their consoles over the years your entitled to anything!

Oh Dear, MS games are on PC day 1 and can look better, provided you have a £2K PC. Nintendo games are on PC day one because Nintendo does security like its still 1982. My son was playing BOTW in 4K with ray tracing the other day. Both are still going strong.

The simple fact is Sony wants to make more money in return for the games it creates. End of. And PC is a giant un tapped market that is not owned or controlled by a competitor. In fact Sony has invested heavily into the Epic games store. Clearly Sony wants a piece of the PC pie.

@GREGORIAN Yeah probably not a massive amount, but it still gives more scope to the brand. The bottom line is that the games Sony ports to PC have probably sold just about all they're going to sell on PS4. From Sony's perspective as a business, there's no real reason not to put its games on PC a few years after release.

@Oscarjpc you sound angry. Did Sony hurt you?

@Serialsid he clearly doesn't. Every time I see the word "hypocrisy" thrown around, I simply laugh. These people are unintentionally funny.

@ShogunRok I believe it sold 716000 in its first month and it's over a million now. Like you say it's a good business decision to port over old games. That's potentially a million more customers that may be tempted to buy a ps5 to play the latest sequel. Probably no where near that number but it's smart move to try.

@CynicalGamer..... I don't think the reaction is dramatic..... I mean by the same logic why would anyone buy a Ps5 to play Ragnarok when it will be free on PC in 2025 with all bells and whistles and mods....... So how does that help the new title and the new Console.

Personally it's a slap in the face for life long loyal playstation fans.

I mean why do we still need a Nintendo system to play any Mario bar Mario run or any Zelda game. Cause Nintendo are loyal to their fan base, that's why the after the ps2/ps2 Era they run away with the Japan market from Sony.

I mean if I knew these game were going to come to PC I would not have wasted my money the Ps4 pro in 2018, I would have just waited and bought a 3080/3090 and played the games for free via piracy. I don't buy games offline games on PC cause can easily pirate them for free or get them for less than 10 dollars at launch

@GREGORIAN i dont feel as though i've been slapped in the face,mistreated,cheated or lied to...i simply dont care if playstation games ship on the pc at any point in the future..i'll buy them on my ps5 and i'll enjoy them on my ps5..

@GREGORIAN also sounds like you condone piracy too..

@GREGORIAN then clearly playstation isn't for you. Sell your console and all of its games and steal them on PC when they come out, because yeah, piracy is cool and all.

@GREGORIAN So if I'm understanding you right the main reason Sony should not release their games on PC is because you will pirate them? You make it sound like Sony is responsible for your moral standing. I mean you be you but expecting any games company to give a ***** about hurting the feelings of a openly confessed pirate just not going to happen. I think you will find you have lost all credibility on this forum.

@Northern_munkey..... Not necessarily supporting piracy but try to relay that the PC space is pretty much jungle where games are subject to anything pretty much from full price, discount, free and free to play to completely free via piracy for example fifa needs ea's origin and always on line connection yet there are people and places that sell fifa completely playable on line with the ceveat of not being able to play Ultimate Team.

Some people may say it's a small market or whatever but I title that sell 20 million minimum has +- 5 to 10 million sales lost to that. This is why GTA has sold more on console than PC even though PC has larger numbers of gamers in terms of people activity using their PCs for gaming.

There is a reason Nintendo games generally top the charts outside of AAA games and some Sony first party titles, and it's because you only find Nintendo games on a Nintendo system and if you don't have a Nintendo system then it means you don't necessarily like their taste of games simple as that.

Nintendo systems are technically less power full than others which would imply their production values and most likely dev cost are lower which would imply they are making more money than anybody on their games in terms of cost vs profit, hence they are able to keep game prices at launch values through a games life cycle without the need to quickly discount games to attract sales to meet production
costs as Sony have been doing. These makes Nintendo games thus valuable to the consumer who sees value in their game no droping halve in value a month after launch and profitable to Nintendo, which makes Nintendo able to focus on game quality over quantity and not needing to port their games to other systems for some extra cash grab.

Pockeman Go was very lucrative for Nintendo yet they've never ported it to any other system trying to cash grab.

I bet breath of the wild will likely sell more Switches than HZFW and Ragnarok will sell PS5's apart from people who had already planed to get one.

@naruball..... You should go hunt for pirates on another site not here.....as you clearly liken hunting for pirates and stuff..

@TooBarFoo.... Nope you didn't understand me right sirry sir......

@Rural-Bandit........ Alright I guess it's good they were able to make profit as they had planned and great for the people who have got the game on PC. I suppose it's just games at the end of the day.

@ShogunRok... Yeah, well definitely double dipping never hurt anybody.

This right here helped me in deciding not to get a PS5. These games will all make their way to PC sooner or later.

@Link41x well at least that will give someone else more of a chance to buy one. 👍

@GREGORIAN try to reason it how you will but you just simply implied that piracy is ok...i dont care if you do but dont try and justify it...your other points are somewhat valid i guess but i dont really care that much either to be honest..

@GREGORIAN Hard disagree. Most gamers are not patient enough to wait until 2025 even with the bells and whistles. I for one will not wait for the pc version. I might however double dip for it. I have had every playstation console and I don't consider this a slap in the face. Nintendo has plenty of games that were not originally on it. They lost a MHW exclusive anyway. Their success stems from portability. I know that's why I bought one. Also most people are not going to buy a strong GPU. Most gamers are hardware casuals and are content with a cheaper console that has the games they want. So this "just get a pc" mentality on enthusiasts sites is not representative of most of Sony's customers.

Edit: I'm quoting the 2025 you mentioned.

@Jaz007 gee i wonder why . maybe because nintendos consoles are horrible

@Serialsid Agreed. Not a bad console don't get me wrong, would just rather use the PC then have multiple systems.

Can't wait to see Jim Ryan destroy the PS brand step by step.
Those Jim Ryan fanboys are just as hypocritical and foolish as Phil Spencer fanboys.

@PC_Peasant Ex PlayStation boss Shawn Layden in an interview 2 weeks ago.

“The idea of going to PC—and I don’t think you’ll ever see PlayStation do a day and date with PC, but you know, never say never—but the strategy as we were developing it when I was there was that we need to go out to where these new customers are, these new fans could be,” he said.

“We need to go to where they are because they’ve decided not to go to come to my house so I’ve got to go to their house now.

“And what’s the best way to go to their house? Why don’t I take one of our top selling games, which has already blown up the marketplace, it’s already been out there for 18 months or 24 months, there’s no real retail activity against that title, I’m not trading off one sale for another, and bring that to the personal computer platform and let them have an idea – you guys choose not to come to PlayStation but let me show you what you’re missing.”

For Layden, “there’s no losing in this transaction” as PC game sales aren’t coming at the expense of console software purchases, and ideally they might encourage PC players to buy a console down the line.

“It’s a way of outreach, that’s how I see it – trying to get to the people that the platform doesn’t currently speak to,” he said.

So Jim Ryan is just carrying on from Shawn's planning and strategy. I think he makes compete sense in this interview. And if you think destroying a brand is having the hottest selling bit of tech in the world right now, and Sony having their biggest 1st quarter revenue in the history of the company then..... 🤷

@Serialsid 👊

@Serialsid First, brand loyalty is actually incredibly important. Just ask Samsung if you don't believe me. An erosion of costumers is your first step into oblivion. That's why Samsung phones are nowhere near what they used to be. it is actually quite dangerous not to cater to your core audience. But I guess you're not a marketing genius. Second, you just reinforce my point. This is about them making more though to make more of the same cookie cutter third person narrative on rails experience with an over the shoulder camera and a lackey character to talk to through the story. There is ZERO innovation in the last 5 years of playstation "exclusives" good quality games but all of them DERIVATIVE or sequels. I still remember times of Locoroco, Vib-Ribbon, Journey, Flower, Sound Shapes, Tokyo Jungle, to name a few.
Zero risk now.
So, yes, I am right. Zero good news for old costumers, zero advantages for long time consumers.

@Oscarjpc but they have no erosion of customers? They have the hottest gaming console on the market, that has been their most successful console launch in Sony's history. They literally can't make the ps5 fast enough. And this is 18Months after they started porting over games to the pc, we all knew this was coming and still people want their console!
Brand loyalty only goes so far. They don't owe you anything, and you don't owe them anything. There is nothing stopping you saying nah, I'm going xbox this generation! They make a product, you can to choose to buy it or not. Sounds to me like you don't like them or their product anymore and have no interest in their games so I wonder why your so bothered? Sounds like your time with Sony is done, hope you find the games your looking for elsewhere. 👍

Edit: I'll just add that those crap over the shoulder derivative games you dislike so much are the reason they sold 116 million ps4's, that they are what the core fans want. To ditch them to make games like Sound Shapes or Tokyo Jungle would go against what these core players want. But then I guess your not a marketing genius either!

@Serialsid If you don't see a problem in a multimillion-dollar game company producing just one type of game all the time and how this leads to market exhaustion, then obviously you are not a genius indeed. Keep buttering up Playstation, see what benefits brings you. I must remind you that Sony's best selling console ever was the PS2 which introduced dozens of new IPS in very different genres. PS4 brought 2 new ips, Days Gone and HZD both the same over the shoulder tp cinematic drama. And Sony in all their wisdom already abandoned DG because it wasn´t a ten million seller. With that mentality, PS chances of innovating and creating new genre defying milestones is very grimm. it is sad.

@Oscarjpc I didn't say they only make one sort of game, you did! I think they make some very different types of games and are already trying to boarden out this generation, especially on the multiplayer side. Just the other month they stated they have 25 games in development and nearly half of them are new IP's! Is that enough for you? Doesn't sound too grim to me! You must have missed that!
And how am I buttering up PlayStation? You think they are reading this forum? I just think your being very over the top about them porting over old games, potentially bringing in more customers!
At the end of the day we're just taking about computer games, nothing worth getting all upset about. I personally have a series x sat next to my ps5 and a switch upstairs. I just love playing great games on whatever box they are on. Lifes too short to have loyalty to a billion dollar corporation.

If this ends up hurting Playstation sales Sony will stop. They are only doing this to make more money, if sales dip in PS they are screwed. Sony makes some money off exclusives but most of their money comes off of people buying non Playstation games and them getting 30 percent. As soon as that is hurt they will stop putting exclusive games on PC. This is Jim Ryan and and we will see if this continues to work.

@Coltaine22 I think your completely correct, if this strategy starts to hurt ps5 sales it will stop. But I don't believe selling older games to a new audience will hurt sales enough to out weigh the benefits.
And it was Shawn Layden that started this strategy (look at my post 283 for his interview a few weeks ago), Jim Ryan is just carrying it out. I think Shawn makes some very good reasons for doing these ports.

@dasd2 Yeah, there's absolutely no reason to buy a PlayStation anymore if a previously exclusive game may, potentially, eventually also go to PC 3 years after launch.