If Microsoft's planned $68 billion buyout of Activision Blizzard has you wondering who's next, and whether the tech giant could scoop up your favourite Japanese publisher at any moment, then we've got good news: it probably, maybe, might not happen.
Video game consultant and writer Nathan Brown has penned a very informative article on the subject of overseas companies acquiring Japanese businesses, with the help of Japanese gaming industry analyst Serkan Toto. The article outlines why a Japanese firm like Sony would be a frontrunner in buying other Japanese companies — and why Microsoft can't simply waltz in and acquire whatever it wants.
We're obviously not going to copy and paste the whole article here, but the gist of it is that Japanese businesses tend to do things differently. Generally speaking, Japanese companies aren't keen on being bought up, with mergers — like Square Enix and Koei Tecmo — being much more common. Additionally, hostile takeovers are pretty much viewed as bad business from top to bottom.
Toto explains: "[Hostile takeovers] are generally considered the antithesis of the Japanese way of doing business, and almost always a very bad idea. A foreign entity taking over a publicly traded studio against its own will would be a suicide mission: everybody would leave instantly. I would bet my house this will not happen, ever." Basically, it would be a big pain in the arse for Microsoft to seal the deal on any Japanese company.
Toto continues: "Sony of course has the home-field advantage, and some of the challenges that would come up for Microsoft would not apply to Sony."
Toto even concludes with — dare we say — a bit of a tease: "It doesn’t have to be one of the publicly traded powerhouses, but I believe Sony is at least considering making a move in Japan soon.”
So there you have it; you don't have to lose anymore sleep over nightmares about Big Uncle Phil absorbing your beloved Japanese game devs. Although earlier in the article, Toto does temper things by saying "Nothing can be ruled out in this day and age". Uh oh!
Anyway, interesting stuff. What do you think is next for our industry? Could you see Sony snapping something up in Japan? What's happening with Microsoft? Become an armchair analyst in the comments section below.
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Title should be changed to reflect reality - Japanese studio more likely to sell to Sony.
And let’s not pretend we don’t all know why.
Level 5 would be cool.tecmo koei oh yeahhhh.vanillaware. no doubt playa.from software now thats legendary status.etc.word up son
With everything that's been happening of late, when I saw that thumbnail I expected the worst lol
With regards to the article. Japanese companies value loyalty a lot and I think if Sony went after any major publisher it would probably be Square Enix, and even then I can see it been a merger. Making it SIE Square or something.
I still would like to see a couple of Japanese studios on board. Arc System Works I've been saying for ages and maybe Level 5.
If it's a publisher, I hope Capcom.
I'd love to see Sony have more Japanese studios, they've always just had Japan Studio (now Team Asobi) and Polyphony Digital so them getting some Japanese talent would be interesting as they've never really focused on securing Japanese talent. I think a lot of it is just them having a lot of Japanese support in the past they never saw the need to bother. But it would be great for them to have one and would debunk some of the Sony hates Japan stuff you hear a lot these days.
I mean honestly I'd say Platinum would be my preferred pick right now, if we're looking at smaller companies and not publishers. They're obviously having a rough time over there.
Sony is looking to make more live service titles, they want to acquire a company in Japan, PlatinumGames stated today that they want to make more live service titles and they're located in Japan. I think it's a strong possibility that they will be acquired by Sony.
Atlus and/or FromSoft would be great aquisitions and in line with Sony’s style.
I honestly think this may age poorly. Not that I'm particularly knowledgeable on the subject or know more than the analyst being interviewed...
I just think deep down we all know what we're going to wake up to one day. Capcom, SEGA, Square Enix... Whoever it ends up being, Microsoft will end up getting one of them.
Ugh.
Hopefully not a company known for major multiplatform releases.
@Mega-Gazz Sega owns Atlus, and I doubt they're eager to sell. Besides, most of Atlus' IPs go to Nintendo systems. (theoretically, anyway; their output dipped mightily once the 3DS stopped being a viable platform).
Nobody please.
As long as it isn’t Capcom or Square-Enix, I don’t care. They’re doing fine on their own. Activision was/is a dumpster fire of scandal and needed a shake up. Bungie was maybe a bit more expensive than Sony should have paid, but makes sense for their live services needs. All for Sony getting Konami and whipping that circus into shape.
@get2sammyb I honestly think that Capcom and Square Enix are safe since they are doing well for themselves. I can't imagine them being willing to sell. Sega however isn't doing as well comparatively. I think if there's one Japanese publisher that will be acquired, either by Sony or Microsoft, it has to be Sega.
Microsoft can’t buy a Japanese publisher the Japanese government ain’t having that and plus Xbox doesn’t sell very well in Japan.
Neither the Zenimax or the AB buyouts were hostile takeovers though. Both companies were looking to sell
I would love for Sony to get Atlus and Square. I feel like since their is big history between Sony and both of those companies it makes sense.
Also yes I know that Atlus is owned by Sega so that would be more difficult, but I can imagine characters from Persona announcing "Oh hey we are with Sony now baby", in a Morgana voice of course.
The rise of Seenix Interactive Entertainment.
I’d rather Microsoft bought HudsonSoft from Konami and any other IP they seem to ignore.
Mostly because M$ out of the three needs some increased presence in Japan, and Konami doesn’t have much interest in the IP.
Sony should do what’s needed to unlock the Shadow Hearts IP.
I only want a Publisher if it makes sense for both.
Bandai makes the least sense. Sony won't support their more niche games. They'll just make Tekken.
Kadokawa has anime IPs and manga, but maybe it would be a monopoly for anime? Same thing for Square?
Fromsoftware is stuck with a company that really doesn't grow in gaming, plus Sony has two of FS's IPs, so idk what to think. Maybe FS will stop recycling sound effects if they join Sony.
Square has a lot of other things besides games, right? Would Sony care to handle that? Since MS can't acquire it, SE is basically a Sony exclusive thing already.
Konami - yeah, bunch of pachinko machines and fitness gyms. Just buy the IP. No need to buy the whole company lol and I keep laughing at people suggesting the whole company.
Sega - if they need help because of the arcade situation, sure. Why not, although they're not that lucrative.
now here's the one that makes total sense.
Someone that helps EVO, fills sony's genres that their first party doesn't do, could also benefit from Sony's pictures multimedia aproach, had to westernize their games to sell more copies, that has IPs that could be turned into GaaS and Bungie could help them, and could help them grow and bring dormant IPs.
You know who I'm talking about.
I still prefer Sony to go the studios approach.
here's a list a potential "good" gets.
Arcsystems (Best independent fighter developer I believe)
Slocap (Sifu 2 could be turned into an AAA game)
Fromsoftware (just FS)
Kojima - Don't like DS, but I would get him for Horror genre potential (Buy Silent Hill IP from Konami and #FKonami)
Deviation - FPS
Firewalk - FPS/TPS
Ember Labs
Haven - That inclusive GaaS
Absurd Venture - Dan Houser
Crytek - Another shooter dev
Techland - Could make a Co-Op game for Sony
Remedy - Tencent has their fingers on them.
Platinum - Tencent has their fingers on them.
Arrowhead - Worked with Sony previously
Said in a previous comment Microsoft would never buy a Japanese publicly traded publisher due to differing business cultures and a few people wanted to argue the point.
Well... I said the same thing this 'consultant' said about a month ago. Of course, I wasn't the only one who pointed it out. So when can we expect our six-figure salaries?
What does a consultant do again?
capcom fans hope that it’s not capcom . and honestly with the way sonys been , i hope not too . isn’t sony big on censorship ? so shouldn’t that mean japanese devs should stay far away . the playstation brand is american now .
sadly
@nomither6 Well Sony made god of war 3.
I think Sony has issue when it is 12 year old looking anime girls.
Have you seen some games on the ps store? Those waifu dating sims. I wouldn't blame them on censoring that lmao.
but dmc5 and resident evil sales improve a bit because of the sexy ladies they make, so I hope they don't get between that.
@uptownsoul forgot the VR potential with RE. That would be good.
I have been predicting Capcom to anyone who’ll listen.
I think sony are most likely to acquire Capcom then Square-Enix. Either of them I'd be happy with. But I'd especially love SEGA for the history and huge list of amazing IP's they've created over the years. I have a feeling they'll end up with Microsoft though. Hope I'm wrong.
@4kgk2 That makes it more likely. AB and Bungie got an investment from them. Maybe they know Capcom is a target and want to get something from that investment.
@Rural-Bandit Most of Capcom's games are not on switch. Doubt that will happen (Bethesda and AB happened and they made a lot of money with PS).
@RevGaming god of war 3 was over a decade ago and it basically wasn’t even the same company because a lot of people left , david jaffe and the former CEO of SIE too .
but i definitely agree with that second paragraph , i completely forgot about that trash , and still can’t believe that’s ever ok or acceptable , but i guess it’s tradition .
i was just speaking for the sake of fans of JRPGS overall , im not really bothered at the end of the day though personally
I can see where they are coming From.
In other news, snow is more likely to fall in Norway than in Ohio this week.
@nomither6 That's why I prefer Capcom.
Sony had to westernize their games, just like them, to be able to sell. Look at Monster Hunter World. Still baffles how many people ignored a great series all these years (still remember getting hyped at e3 2017). The only concern I can understand is Sony getting in the way of Capcom's sexy characters. Aloy is very attractive, but she isn't too sexualized.
Well Sony showcased Project Eve and were very present at that re8 showcase. Would like to see more Dragons Dogma, DMC, SF and more IPs being produced with a bigger sugar daddy.
Konami musn't be that costly to purchase nowadays. Think it would be great if we get the magic of International Superstar Soccer rebooted ( every two years release with a free update inbetween ideally imo ) with Sony applying much needed pressure on FIFA regarding licenses. Castlevania can do with a big budget new release, and Bluepoint can take care of a MGS remake.
The first and most important thing I would do is hold a staff meeting and say, "pack your bags we're moving back to Tokyo".
That'll be a start.
It would be atrocious if microsoft bought these Japanese publishers as there games tend to skip Xbox anyway
@Mega-Gazz if they wanted Atlus they'd have to buy Sega since that publisher already owns them, and thats not likely...but then again, nowadays never say never
Gamers are the ones that get hurt in this mass industry consolidation. Most of these companies aren't making anything all that exciting, but it's the well established (usually) third party games that will be missed out on.
@RevGaming Good list mate. Thought I'd give my thoughts.
Arc System Works: Goes without saying, and I'll be annoyed that Sony have Evo but don't plan on having a dedicated fighting game studio.
SloClap: Can't see that one happening tbh.
FromSoftware: If Kadokawa are open to selling them then 100%, only problem is Tencent have shares in Kadokawa too and could outbid Sony.
Kojima Productions: Love the guy but the studio's future rests on him been active and that might be too risky.
FireWalk, Haven and Deviation: Sony are likely to wait to see how their first games go. Sony XDev may play a big part in that.
EmberLab: I've got a feeling that Sony are close to getting them, Kena got pushed a fair bit during in Sony's Autumn lineup. And their next game is already confirmed for PlayStation.
Absured Venture: Would not surprise me if Sony already have a publishing deal with them due the strong ties with GTA.
Crytek: Surprised no one has picked them up yet, even just for the tech. Can't see Sony been interested.
Techland: May well depend on how well Dying Light 2 does, but have a feeling Sony will pass.
Remedy: Would suit Sony well but I think their acquisitions now will be about plugging gaps in the market that Sony haven't got much of a foot in.
Platinum Games: Don't think Sony haven't got much of a relationship in them and outside of Nier Automata haven't sold well either, Nintendo should buy them.
Arrowhead: Think that's a long shot, Sony haven't worked with them for years now.
@RevGaming that’s true , sony is good at making games so if fans can put a little bit of their kinks to the side , they could really be in for some good things .
i change my mind , you’re right
I hope Sony buy Square Enix and Capcom. But keep the games multi platform. Just keep them out of MS’ filthy mitts, please!
@AdamNovice Maybe Kadokawa can be convinced since Sony has two of their IPs and they have worked with Sony before? Idk if the future of what's selling is taken in consideration.
Arrowhead has a game for PS5 with Sony already.
Crytek is just to have another shooter dev. Bungie may not be enough.
Yeah, I understand the rest of your points.
Good points overall.
@Rmg0731 MS bring absolutely nothing to the table, let’s be honest. The gaming industry would be better off without them. Nintendo do their own thing - I’ve never owned a Nintendo console, or played any of their games but they have their dedicated fanbase. Sony and PlayStation IS the gaming industry for me. If they disappeared I wouldn’t consider myself a gamer anymore. Competition is good but not when it isn’t earned. MS are trying to buy their success and I just can’t respect that.
While I'm not a fan of whole publishers being bought up, Microsoft has made it so Sony has to consider doing the same or let Microsoft just keep buying its way to success.
Hypothetically, I would prefer Sony go for Square Enix because Final Fantasy is synonymous with PlayStation, but Sony has a fighting game tournament without any fighting games of their own, which makes me think Capcom could plug a gap. The unfortunate reality of this is Nintendo is going to get harmed in this escalating arms race. Bethesda and Activision-Blizzard do not make a lot of Switch games but Capcom and Square Enix do.
That said, the fewer publishers and studios Microsoft can buy, the better, so it's good they cannot easily just buy their way to success in Japan the way they are trying to in North America and Europe.
Hypothetically speaking, if Microsoft bought Sega, what would that mean for Atlus? Would Atlus have a say in the acquisition, would they be allowed to refuse or be given a choice to buy their way out or be sold to another, or would they be owned by Microsoft without choice but can be independent and continue to release their games on PS and Nintendo?
@uptownsoul I believe that Constantin Films are the ones that own the movie rights and Sony is just distributing the films. They might throw a bit of money in for product placement too.
But I can see how it appears Sony makes the films. Many distributors are blamed for ruining a film or making a great film, but are really just distributing them and have little to no involvement (not to say they can't have a lot of involvement).
@UnlimitedSevens states the f**kin obvious by the looks of it
@BritneyfR_ee
That's not entirely true. Xbox pushes PlayStation to be better. Whether you have zero interest in Xbox or not, their existence makes PlayStation better for us all.
It may not change the narrative but none of the recent acquisitions by Sony or Microsoft were categorized as hostile. That usually means a company buys up most of their stock or something.
@BritneyfR_ee I want them too! Most importantly with SE as long as it's still multiplatform. They make really good Switch games too. Would really love to have Sega+Atlus safe also for Persona.
@TheCollector316 Yes. This will be 360 vs ps3 kind of deal and we know we got a whole bunch of games from both sides, Single Player and Multi Player.
@GZoo I am thinking either a merger with Konami or Sony buys their IP. Konami makes bank in the pachinko machine business, their gaming studio not so much. But I’d love to see the IPs I grew up with in the 80s and 90s get revived and give them the love they deserve
@RevGaming yeah the last truly great generation
@TheCollector316 I would agree if MS brought anything to the table other than Halo and Forza…. but they don’t. MS is like the rich, privileged kid who gets ahead by throwing money at every problem. Whereas Sony is the kid on a scholarship who works twice as hard but still gets crapped on because they don’t have the same financial means as the privileged kids do. Screw those privileged a**holes!
SEGA did just offload their arcades, although I'd prefer them to be independent forever. If someone really does have to buy them, then let it be Sony.
Granted, it was a single private studio, but Zenimax Media bought Tango Gameworks over a decade ago. The source article says this has never happened. Hopefully, Sony isn't thinking Japanese studios and publishers are safe from Microsoft. They must be protected.
Sony/Square Enix or Sony/Capcom would be amazing...imagine the games they would produce!... Don't care what Microsoft does, they have like zero market share in Japan and will hopefully stay that way...
square enix already invests a lot in ps5. Star ocean, ffxvi, ffviire2, final fantasy origin, forspoken, Babylon's fall. At the same time switch gets triangle strategy, chocobo gp and I'm not saying they will be bad games but they have much less budget and look like indies. Capcom and sega may support the switch a bit more with some exclusives but overall they invest more in PlayStation as well.
@Quadalog Maybe the last popular one, but not the last one.
You need "consoles" to make cloud infrastructure, so I think consoles will always be there. I will always buy them and I think anyone who wants to play offline or have the least latency for competitive online games will get them. Just like real high end rigs for PC.
Lol yeah, MS take Sega, get their great IP and as a bonus all the current staff leave. Win win 😂
@BritneyfR_ee
You are certainly right there. Microsoft did barely more than Halo, Gears, and Forza for two decades. One thing people don't realize, especially Xbox fanboys, is Microsoft had to spend nearly $80B acquiring studios to STILL be behind Sony in gaming. That's pretty ludicrous to think about. When people have a choice, they choose PlayStation. The way Microsoft operates is removing choice.
@BritneyfR_ee couldnt have said it better myself. Look at the last decade at what MS has done in house. Practically nothing, majority of their playerbase and most podcast/writers of xbox wont buy, look at or give attention to games if they are not on gamepass. Halo infinited has dropped like 95% of players on pc in less than 2 months and hasnt been good since bungie left.
Sony and Microsoft have enough money to start up their own studios and come up with some new ip's instead of lazily buying up existing ones to shove into subscription services. These kind of deals benefit gamers and the whole industry very little.
I also hope the Activision buyout is deemed unlawful by the FTC (however improbably that is), that'd be a cause for celebration!
Now that Sony have bought Bungie and adapted the model to allow for multiplatform games, I'd love to see Sony buy Sega. There is so much potential with a lot of Sega games, but the company tends to be quite cheap with their games, Sony could really make a lot of their series shine. Ryu Ga Gotoku have the potential to be the Naughty Dog of the East. I'd love Sony to acquire Koei Temco too.
@BritneyfR_ee @TheCollector316
I agree with what both of you are saying, but Bethesda was going to close studios (Tango, Arkane and Machine probably) and AB needed a better work environment and it was all just COD ( I still think people are hoping too much on revivals of IPs tho).
What matters in the end, is good games. Good games regardless of how they were made. That's all I want.
@LtSarge Sega has just had record profits, I don't think they are doing badly. They aren't in as strong of a position as Square or Capcom, who both came back from the brink.
@Apfelschteiner Capcom cameback like the guy from Crunk ain't dead.
@nomither6 Maybe a big Japanese publisher coming into the Sony family will move them back towards being a Japanese company...
I just really hope that Microsoft stay away from the Japanese studios because Microsoft have such an awful corporate culture that devours the things that I love!
@Rural-Bandit You're talking about controllers again.
Gotta love it
it will be interesting for sure. i'd rather microsoft and sony buy up developers then Tencent
@BritneyfR_ee Sony are just the rich kids that want to make their own name and not live off their father's. They are still a very rich company, just not on the same scale as Microsoft.
@twitchtvpat I'm not sure which is worse between Microsoft and Tencent, I'd probably say Tencent. In general, I think countries should be much more protectionist about their culturally significant companies. America has a system that is great at driving wealth, but not cultural value or what is good for the people.
@TheCollector316 Are you sure Tango was bought, didn't Bethesda set up that studio from scratch?
@Apfelschteiner
Yes, I'm sure. The studio was founded in March 2010 and bought seven months later.
Microsoft right now has a Japanese studio so there are work arounds and behind the scenes moves they could make, money talks after all. Also I would rather Sony rehired every single talent they let go from Japan Studio, those guys were completely home grown and with Sony from the start.
I honestly don’t want Sony buying up a Japanese studio
@Gloamin. Definitely i agree.all of them are amazing picks.word up son
Square Enix please.
To stay on top of Microsoft then a japanese developer is not what sony need, they already have great support from Japanese companies especially square enix, what don't really need is a developer who owns a popular "casual" ip's such as ubisoft, EA and 2K
Sony is having perfect relationship with most japanese game companies. They release so many exclusives on Playstation even though it sells less than Switch in Japan. One reason is that multiplatform in general sell better at PS. Another reason is that Sony treats the software partners right. Nintendo is like, oh well we don't really need u we got Mario and Pikachu. This ignorance bite them in the ass during N64, GC (well with GC its the only time they really tried) and Wii U era
I hope both stay the hell away from Japanese devs, they're both too West focussed.
I don't fancy Sony pulling what they did to Japan Studio with Atlus.
@QBGaming12 Sony getting Atlus would be the death of any creativity they have.
No way would they see the 800k SMTV sold as a success so they'd be forced to pump out Persona and Persona spin-offs till the end of time.
@HeeHo Oh definitely, some of Atlus releases sell significantly less than most of Japan Studios output. But while Atlus celebrates those niche sales Sony goes "yuck we wanted tlou2 numbers 🤢 good bye Japan Studio! we'll keep a couple of you to make tech demos to show off new hardware ✌️"
@Perturbator MS could buy everything. That’s the problem. We need Sony to stop them from doing just that. If Sony buy Square Enix and Capcom (and keep all future releases multi platform) that should be enough to force MS to keep future COD games multi platform (or be seen as the ‘bad guys’ for withholding games, when the competition aren’t). It’s the only way to stop them.
@HeeHo Can we stop pretending Sony Japan was working out during the ps4 gen.
Gravity Rush and The Last Guardian? Who will miss that?
They took the best part from it (Astrobot) and focus on that.
Are we really comparing Sony Japan to a Japanese publisher that makes games that actually sell and are of higher quality?
Oh but they made ICO, Shadow of the Colossus... they're not as good anymore. Just like DICE, Bioware, Dead Rising devs etc.
Studios come and go.
I'm still mad a Visceral games, but EA would have killed that too by now. Respawn is next and EA will have not talent whatsover.
no one's pointing out the big elephant in the room: certain Chinese companies have been gobbling up Japanese devs as of late. they're basically the M$ in Japan in that they have more money to dish out than Sony ever can unfortunately.
....i hope i'm wrong
@BritneyfR_ee You know, I think that's slightly wrong, friendo. I believe MS has been trying to purchase a LOT of other devs (according to reports months ago) but I don't think everyone wants to sell - and that's good news!
The reason they got Activision is because of the internal turmoil within that company during the last months. Shareholders were likely getting nervous and wanted a reset of some sort.
And about MS "trading" exclusives" with Sony... I doubt it. Microsofts whole plan is getting Gamepass to be the Netflix of gaming. They won't be getting Sony-owned (Spartacus) games there, or vice versa.
@RevGaming "Gravity Rush and The Last Guardian? Who will miss that?"
Me and many others 😕
"They took the best part from it (Astrobot) and focus on that."
Their best part is making tech demo games to showcase new hardware? Astro bot to showcase PS VR, Astro bot to showcase Dualsense and Astrobot to showcase PS VR2...yeah the best part, way better then making full story games like Puppeteer and Bloodborne 👍
I'd like to think Microsoft would leave well alone - but its unlikely. I see their next move as being to pick up one of IO interactive, CD Projekt Red, or agreeing a deal with Square to purchase Crystal Dynamics to be honest. They have good relationships with the first 2, and could use Crystal to develop dormant IP they have scooped up.
As for Sony it would be madness to buy Konami and all that comes with it (pachinko, gyms etc) - tho i can see them trying to buy the ip for the likes of metal gear and silent hill if konami want out of the gaming space.
So long as i keep getting SEGA/ ATLUS, Capcom, Square Enix, and other talented japanese developers releasing on Playstation i can remain level-headed about the whole situation. For now.
@Juanalf Idk man. Ask Sony why the thought that lol.
@RevGaming I'm obviously still bitter 🥲 don't get me wrong the Astro game on PS5 was excellent but man just take a peek at Japan Studio wiki and see all the franchises and games they made since their founding in 1993.
You can say their games didn't sell but there was plenty of talent there. But is time to move on I guess, Sony building a new studio in Japan or buying a current one would help with the healing for me at least lol.
@Perturbator yeah, maybe. But MS are definitely the bad guys in this scenario. They crossed a line when they announced their acquisition of Activision. If Sony had done that, the gaming media would have pounced on them and dragged them for it. MS does it and it’s fine apparently. Double standards is clear to see and very wrong. I think some people just don’t like that PlayStation has been doing so well the last two console gens and they envy their success or don’t feel it’s deserved or something. All I’ll say is, thank god for Sony! Because the last two gens would have been absolutely barren without them. Imagine the last 10 years with just Xbox exclusives… I could probably count them on one hand.
Fun fact; The Netherlands was the first in the world to do business with Japan. Some Dutch people got killed but we thought the confusion was worth it. Sony and Dutchman Herman could do it.
@vapidwolf1
No kidding. I think I'm liking this consulting thing haha. If anyone needs any consulting work done, let me know!
@RevGaming people have short memories , but i remember clearly people didn't like those games when they came out. and now people act like they loved them. people only remember the good times , and not the bad. absobi is their main japan studio and they brought whoever was left from the japan studio, and i think asobi can make some good games ( that aren't astro bot releated , even though i love astro bot).
@Tielo
Is that true? If so, super interesting.
My only 5 cents is Sony has a pretty strong first party line-up as it is; my only hope for a potential merger/acquisition would be for Sony to buy IPs (not the whole company) from Konami. At least the game rights if not a wholesale purchase of the properties - they are clearly willing to sell at the moment based on recent outsourcing of development.
And that's not to save the IPs from Microsoft, it is to save them from, well... Konami itself. Truly an awful company and I hope their pachinko sector continues to tank. Google 'Konami Yakuza' if you fancy semi-plausible conspiracy theories. Firing Hideo is just the tip of the iceberg at Konami whether you actually believe they are run by an organized criminal syndicate or not.
Capcom is doing very well on its own and at this point, their games' quality often rivals Sony first party in my humble opinion. SquareEnix seems like a mess that would take awhile to sort out. If they hadn't made FF 14, I'd have wrote them off completely by this point (probably the most inefficient game publisher in history based on their track record).
Just leave it Sony! Go make some crummy live service games and don't touch Resident Evil!
@BritneyfR_ee Um. No. If Sony bought, there would be no backlash like there is for MS.
They're not bad guys. Activision needed to be bought out.
No. I think sony guys hate the fact that they may be third place for the first time lol.
I hope he is right. I only saw them with a chance to buy SEGA, but i don't want Sonic and persona to become xbox exclusives.
In honesty, japanese games tend to sell worse on Xbox, so it's not a good long term plan to sell. In likelyhood Microsoft will close them down when there isn't a return big enough for their tastes.
Actually, i do worry about Tango gameworks. I think things like Tokyo ghostwire do not resonate with the Xbox crowd. I think they will be the first to be closed down.
@BritneyfR_ee The reality is the live service games can't really afford to give up huge chunks of their player base away, so there is almost no chance of Call of Duty warzone not being on Playstation. Destiny will stay on Xbox, but I could imagine a world where the new game isn't on Xbox, certainly, it would be difficult to imagine Bungie making a Sony IP that is also released on Xbox. Sony will be releasing all new GaaS games on PC day and date.
@RevGaming Huh? Third on what? You do know the PS5 is vastly outselling the Xbox series, yes? MS had to run to the PC, services and buyouts to survive in the market.
Getting a bit ahead of yourself there buddy. A buyout doesn't mean it will all be flowers from here on out. Too early to tell and see if these aquisitions give fruit.
@RevGaming Gravity Rush 2 and the Last Guardian were both 8/9s out of 10 and in the case of the Last Guardian, one of the most special games that Sony has ever put out. Gravity Rush 2 was as good as it could have been realistically and it was green lit not expecting huge sales. Sony should have kept Japan Studio like they did with Bend. There are major parallels as both studios were poorly managed and struggled to get their games running on the game engines. Japan Studio should have been forced to pitch a game with a wider appeal then given the chance to prove themselves. Playstation has just shifted too far from the Japanese heritage. There should absolutely be room for the smaller games alongside the blockbusters.
@Juanalf I feel exactly the same way. Japan has the storytelling talent to make a 10 million-selling game. The story for Yakuza 6 outshone the Last of us part and God of War. In fact Sega would be a good buy because they just need a slightly bigger budget and a Western perspective on presentation, so fully voiced and properly animated, less bloat, more intuitive design of tutorials and/or onboarding.
@Nem yeah but that could change and that scares the hell out of playstation fans lol.
If they keep buying they will 100% beat ps5.
@Tielo Well, I'm quite certain that the Portuguese were trading with Japan before the Dutch, but they annoyed the Japanese Lords with their hard-selling of Catholicism, then yes the Dutch were assigned a key trade deal and even assigned the island of Dejima.
As much as for some reason Nioh wants us to believe that Willam Adams was Irish, he was in fact English, and he traveled to Japan on a Dutch ship.
If you are interested in this history at all I'd recommend reading Samurai William by Giles Milton.
@RevGaming Oh they would be. Any excuse to bash Sony/PlayStation these days…
If Playstation was third place (unlikely for the foreseeable) it wouldn’t be because MS had achieved anything, or earned it. But rather, they got their chequebook out. How is anyone ok with that? It’s obscene. And everything that’s wrong with the world these days.
@BritneyfR_ee welcome to the biz.
And no. Playstation has built so much good will over 4 gens that people would have been fine.
It's not that unlikely if MS buy Ubisoft lol
@Apfelschteiner They did pitch a game for wider audience. Astrobot.
I think Sony now has the mentality of big bucks. This Jim Ryan seems to be that way.
@RevGaming yes the last popular one and I don’t think console gaming is going anywhere for awhile, but I think the PS4 / Xbone generation has been the safest, kinda boring generation to date. Don’t get me wrong it had awesome games but it’s kind of a disappointment. Guess that is what happens though when there was no competition
@Quadalog Yeah. Xbox was a laughing stock all the way through.
@RevGaming
You know Xbox did pretty well with the 360. I know you are talking about the Xbox One, but sheesh they did fall short of the mark last gen, which is actually a shame because I like to see the stiff competition we saw during the PS3-360-Wii era. PS4 dominated... maybe too much?
@uptownsoul I Agree worth you and would love to see Capcom being part of the Sony family, Konami is another Japanese developer that is worth perusing, imagine a new Castlevania, MGS, Contra etc.
@UnlimitedSevens Ps2 did dominate too much.
@lolwhatno Oh. Idc either way. I'm just saying that Sony should let Capcom do whatever they want if they buy them. Including the sexy characters
I was curious about how Sony refers to Bungie as a publisher despite the acquisition. My thoughts are that Sony knows that anything they would generally buy need to be exclusive. They might use Bungie to acquire studios for their live action potential and keep them multi platform under the Bungie brand. I.e. Deviation.
Deviation is newly formed from former Call of duty devs, so they have a pre-existing relationship with Sony. Upon opening their new studio, without even announcing an IP, Sony signed them to a publishing deal. They've recently expanded with a new studio in Canada. How do they have the money? They have been acquired, the paper work won't be finalized until their game is released.
That's my running theory. Let me know what y'all think.
I'd be happy if sony didn't buy any studio's or devs as long as Microsoft don't buy them either
@LightningLeader Bandi Namco need to change their name to Bamco
The only purchase I'd be happy with is Konami, they are literally doing nothing with there games
Just buy the bulk of there IPs and what devs they have left
They can leave Yu gi oh, PES and the pachinko machines to what's left of Konami
@NomNom That's a really interesting thought. Sony want to keep clear boundaries, and the Bungie acquisition has signaled a big change in that a studio was explicitly described as not being part of PlayStation studios and being multiplatform. Although we have seen The Show forcibly moving to multiplatform releases and PC fast becoming a default platform. It would be really interesting to see if Bungie makes acquisitions or if Sony has a structure of PlayStation studios and automonous studios that are given a budget to spend are left to get on with things. I personally see the Bungie acquisition as mold-breaking. If Sega were acquired, I'd expect them to remain as Sega and be multiplatform, the same for Capcom of Square. When Microsoft acquired Zenimax, I thought it strange that they would maintain the structure where Bethesda are in charge of Machine Games, Tango Works, etc. (mostly because Bethesda didn't seem to be good at running the studios), but if there are to be all of these acquisitions, then it might make sense to keep the existing structures. In the case of Microsoft, I think that they should split us Activision and Blizzard and make them culturally distinct companies again.
@Dange I hope you are wrong too. Microsoft already ruined one of my childhood favourites in Rare. If they got their grubby mitts on Sega it would be a very sad day for gaming. Right now I'm feeling like I want Sony to acquire companies just to keep them away from Microsoft, but like some people have mentioned, it would be terrible if Sony just take the most lucrative IP and dump the less popular titles. Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio could be amazing with a little investment and Sony know-how. Japanese companies need to globalize in terms of business practices, but stay very distinctly Japanese.
@RevGaming Aloy is not attractive, it's her personality that you are attracted to. They really didn't need to make her less attractive for the sequel. Is Tifa sexualized or just attractive. I prefer the modern Lara Croft. Games are often supposed to be like TV and movies where you have more attractive and more charismatic characters that hold your interest, unless it is supposed to be more gritty, like The Last of Us, then less attractive characters are a good fit. There is no reason why DoA beach volleyball can't be allowed in the West, it should be allowed to exist alongside The Last of Us Part II.
@lolwhatno It should be possible to have what some people refer to as "sexualized", but I would refer to as attractive or sexy characters. It really depends on the tone of the game. There is space for the modern Lara, Tifa, Quiet, Aloy, and Ellie in games (I'd prefer it if Abby didn't exist).
Games are still immature. In the time of God of War it was kind of adolescent sexuality on display, but the pendulum has swung the other way to the extent that Sony games are strangely lacking in sexuality.
I could see Ms buying SEGA for $50B and Sony buying FromSoftware for $1.5B and then PushSpin posting outrages articles at Sony spending so much and undermining the gaming industry. Pachter will roll his eyes and pick his nose looking at Sony which is worth an article.
And then another outrage when we learn a good chunk of the money is to care for the staff.
@Apfelschteiner
I agree with you.
For instance fantasy has always been associated with sexualised characters both male and female. There s absolutely nothing wrong with it. Video games are also art. Free expression in art is important.
(Within reasonable limits re children representation for instance).
@lolwhatno My whole argument is that humans sexualize themselves, it's just human nature to use what you have. I don't see a huge difference to treating a professional athlete as a physical specimen. I just don't see sexualization as an inherent harm. It's actually just a part of human nature that we don't need to repress. It's healthy to consider a person as a whole, but I don't think young boys grow up with an unhealthy expectation of women based on their fantasies in movies, TV shows, and videogames because all boys grow up with other examples of women that they don't sexualize, and others that they may sexualize, but also see the value in their other attributes.
The people complaining about sexualization are usually not the ones who would be objectified. It tends to be that most really hot women are not feminists, like many people with high earning potential prefer lower taxes.
Young men are taught to be respectful to women to a fault. Women are not so fragile that they cannot be treated equally to men. It's unnatural not to sexualize women at all in society, the same goes for men. It's perfectly acceptable to decide what level of sexualization you are comfortable, but there is sexualization of Lara Croft in the modern games, or even Aloy because she is physically fit and intelligent and therefore attractive as a potential mate in an evolutionary sense. No matter what feminists say, evolution and biology are inherent facts.
@JJ2 The only thing that one might argue is that women should also have their eye candy in gaming. Equality should be about making things available to all, not taking away from one group.
@Apfelschteiner
Well yes. I think it’s just matter of free expression in art. With reasonable limits of course.
It’s fine if some games are heavily sexualised just like it’s fine if some games are heavily woke. Both should be accepted as free expression. Just don’t anyone criticise me or call me names because I’m not personally interested in one of those types.
How shocking!
All these buy ups dont really sit well with me but my selfish view is that if buyouts are going to happen regardless then id rather it be on the only console that i want to game on. SQenix would be amazing with a smattering of Konami's IP's but Capcom would be my hope if its going to happen. Naturally keeping all games multi platform.
It would be amazing if in response to these potential Sony and Microsoft acquisitions, someone like Koei Tecmo merged with Bandai Namco to form KTBN gamu.
@RevGaming yeah but OG Xbox had a few system buyers, Kotor, halo, fable and of course dead or alive beach volleyball. Idk I like exclusives, it’s gotten me to buy pretty much every system from 2000 onward. Being able to find games everywhere is boring and I hope it stops
@lolwhatno While I agree that not all human nature is acceptable in a civilized society, there are certain parts of human nature that are essential to our functioning including eating, drinking, sleeping, and reproducing (I wouldn't put keeping slaves on that list as my list is not about what people have been or could be comfortable with). It is necessary to sexualize to some extent you much agree, right? You don't take it to the extreme of whatever you like goes, just concede that an appropriate amount of sexualization is appropriate. You might be an extremist and say that sexuality should be kept private, but I'd argue that that is extremely repressive and inappropriate. It is necessary for those who are to reproduce to sustain the human race to be aware of who they find sexually attractive. Maybe I should ask if you are a guy or girl, because that might help as a frame of reference.
The thing about playing games is that it can be an entirely private pastime or at least something that consenting adults can do together knowing the parameters. So as long as we have age restrictions. All you would have to do is check the description of the game to see if it has sexuality and nudity to a degree that you are happy with. By the way, nudity is not necessarily sexual, but freeing the nipple is pretty unworkable. What is reasonable for society as a whole is another story really. Also, it's not entirely clear when a person is being sexually suggestive or just wearing clothes they feel comfortable in.
Is you playing games good for society? Not everything has to be good for society, rather the lack of harm. People sexualize others in their thoughts, and I'm not about to advocate for policing thoughts.
The comment about women not being so fragile is just that they are capable of sexualizing men, just as men sexualize them. The male gaze theory is repressive and excessive. It's like they want men to stare at the ground. We should be polite by not overly staring at people and try to make people feel comfortable.
The government should only be carrying out the will of the people not shaping it, so yes the government would have to be the ultimate enforcer, but we should be able to do that ourselves with agreed-on etiquette before it comes to government intervention.
I enjoy debating with you too. I did not take any offense and did not mean any.
I could not call myself a feminist, because I don't think equality should be gendered. I'd call myself an egalitarian. Women and men should be treated differently in some respects, but it should be balanced.
@jFug This or Square Enix would be big wins in my book just for the huge amount of valuable IP they come with.
Between the two I would prefer Capcom. Just imagine: PS Allstars VS Capcom.
I really don't like this kind of talk or scenario. I wish these platform holders would keep their wallets in their pocket and let everyone play games.
As for Sega being the one I worry about the most Microsoft in particular need to keep their damn gruuby mitts as far away as possible.
The other side of the world,
locked in a steel box with titanium chains wrapped around it,
dumped at the bottom of the deepest darkest pit of the ocean with whatever unholy things live down there guarding it.
They would destroy Sega.
@Apfelschteiner No. Aloy is attractive to me, but yes, her personality is also attractive.
Tifa is sexualized imo. Aerith is not although she's just as attractive.
I don't think Lara Croft is sexualized. Especially not compared to her old games.
@Apfelschteiner Kratos big muscles makes me release some testosterone of my own if I say so myself. It gives you that feeling of power.
Konami please.
@Quadalog I meant Xbox one. Sorry.
@Apfelschteiner Square Enix and Bandai Namco merge would be good to prevent being bought.
@RevGaming no worries, the naming of the systems could of been better
@Quadalog 2028: " Introducing Xbox Series 360"
@UltimateOtaku91
I agree with you, but Sony has to offset the loss of Activision-Blizzard and Bethesda first THEN no more acquisitions. We know Microsoft buys their way to success, so it's wishful thinking. They'll keep taking games away from PlayStation until they win. They have proven they can't win otherwise over the last two decades.
nothing is safe for Microsoft for buying companies such as Sega/Capcom or even Nintendo.
Sega is not a Japanese company despite its headquarters in tokyo.
@RevGaming Well,naturally, if one buys the whole market they have a good chance, but i am pretty sure those monopolistic practices will not be allowed.
I am not worried at all if i'm honest.
@HeeHo I doubt that. Atlus has put a ton of games out on Playstation. If SMTV was on Playstation and Switch that game would have obviously sold more. They would probably still let them work with Nintendo. I don't think that would be issue.
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