Digital Foundry Tech Review Shows Just How Far The Last of Us: Part I Has Come

I am sure this comment section will not at all be a s--t show.

I almost wrote a comment directed at the haters. Almost. Not worth it. The game looks great and I'm ready to experience it again. Thanks Naughty Dog for your dedication and effort put into this franchise.

Really enjoy watching these types of videos. Looks wonderful.

At last some silence from the haters!

I will wait for a sale or pick up a SH copy as I never got to play TLOU a whole lot, only occasionaly on my friend's PS3 and later on PS4.
I still think it is pointless to remake (not remaster) a game that is not older than 10 years, not to mention the ridiculous 70 euro pricetag, but if this is a way for Naughty Dog to test modern tech for newer IPs on PS5, then it's all good

I watched the video, no doubt it looks improved but I can't help feeling that it would of looked even better if they waited a few more years.

Still I'll definitely get this eventually since its definitely a step up, just not at full price.

@gollumb82 Haters? You mean the dismissive term when people don't accept any kind of criticism or opinion opposite to theirs?

It definitely looks better, but in my opinion not enough to justify buying it at full price.

I think we can all appreciate that this is one of the best narrative games to ever be released. The story, the world building, the performances the characters put in we’re all phenomenal.

To improve upon that and make it better to play will only increase the level of immersion and the enjoyment of the game. Also it will ensure this story will have a longer lifespan into the future.

I wouldn’t say it needed to remake. The original would still have stood on its own. But improving this game isn’t a bad thing. I’m not sure it needed all the hate.

I don't know that Giant Bomb Quick Look seemed about as definitive as it gets for TLOUP1 coverage. 🤣

@Pat_trick no. The term is used for people who are actively hating on a game instead of simply raising valid points against it.

@Pat_trick
No. I mean the same people who keep coming into the comments section of every single article regarding this game to say the same negative thing over and over again. I'd say that describes a hater, don't you?

Seems like a full remake to me, the team have done a great job, the price is subjective and its value will be different to each person, but no one can argue that this is a cash grab as this video shows the work they have put into this, especially with the amount of accessibility options included.

Overpriced.... Maybe
Cash grab..... Definitely not

@naruball @Pat_trick let me help you both out with a simple, yet long winded explanation.

There are haters who are pouring fuel on the fire to spark outrage from those who were unimpressed but on the fence. They are also actively trying to damage Naughty Dog’s reputation and the games legacy.

There are critics who do not see the validity of the remaster and would prefer Naughty Dog working on new projects and may be vocally against the game, but don’t hate it. (These are the guys likely being offended for wrongly being called haters)

There are neutrals who don’t really care either way but may be discouraged from purchasing the game due to the haters propaganda.

There are fans who are impressed with the remaster but can’t justify it or think it’s over priced.

There are fans who love the changes and will invest in the game again and support what Naughty Dog are doing.

There are also fans who are fired up because of haters who keep s***ing all over their beloved franchise and the developers and thus add more fuel to the fire because the trolls and haters love that reaction and want to stoke the flames.

And both all of those categories get bundled together in the epic war between fans and haters.

Conclusion: It’s all wasted energy that could be spent doing something good instead but no one will realise that because they enjoy the drama.

@UltimateOtaku91 this! £70 for any game is overpriced but the hard work and effort they poured into it clearly shows it was no cash grab. Plus the devs don’t even set the pricing, corporate do

John says in the video that the unlocked framerate also works for the 30/40 fps mode. Is that true? Would mean that ND implemented an own LFC like Insomniac did.

@Kienda very well said.

@Kienda and those trolls will plague ND for the rest of time. It all started with TLOU 2, and no matter what it is that ND do, they get bashed on. I bet it’ll happen with Factions too.

There’s criticism then there’s endless repetition of a single phrase that isn’t really true. There’s criticism then there’s constantly bringing up story points of TLOU 2 that some weren’t happy with. It’s really time for them to move on

@theMEGAniggle
It's the same way I feel about everyone who wouldn't stop complaining about the new Star Wars or the last season of Game of Thrones because they didn't go the way they specifically wanted. They just went on and on and on and on, and acted so extremely that you would think it somehow ruined their lives. It's a work of fictional entertainment, move the hell on.

Remaking every asset is fantastic and it looks amazing…. But a huge part of a game is, you know, the story and acting. You only have one time that you are shocked by the opening act and the twists and turns in the game.
For newcomers, it’s 100% worth the $70…. But I’ll wait till it’s free or on deep discount.

@Reeneman oh, I really hope so. That display mode is a literal (pun intended) game changer, for me.

@gollumb82 maybe Sony couldve quelled their anger a little by maybe not charging 70 quid for it,I dont believe for one minute theyve put as much work into this as they did in the original I mean the foundation was already there ,I dont get credit from my Mrs for building the house when I just decorate the kitchen do I, maybe I should to be fair 😁

@PegasusActual93 that's not really fair.

Of Game of Thrones and Star Wars, GoT almost unanimously ***** off the fanbase by objectively rushing the final seasons and putting out poorly written trash. There's a reason Game of Thrones was almost wiped from pop culture overnight, despite being in vogue for almost a decade.

The Last of Us had a throwaway line about a sandwich and a trans character (which all the bigots thought was a completely different character, at first).

The Last of Us was dumped on by incel sexual frustration and alt-right activists inserting woke culture wars into the game.

It’s simple all you moaning out there.
You pay you play.
If you don’t wanna play you don’t pay.

@tallythwack
That's the thing. I do get why people are upset about the price. I do. However, I also believe any criticism in this regard should be directed at Sony. At least I think it's Sony that sets the prices. As for it being the same game: Bioware remade Mass Effect 1-3 in the same way and few people complained about it being a cash grab.

I'll probably get the complete edition on PS5 when they release it with part 2 and the multiplayer next year for the same price.

@PegasusActual93 my friend watched the new ones and said he enjoyed them way more than the original & prequel trilogy. They are good but one or two silly things happen and people decide to just bash on them.

As for GOT, yes seasons 1-6 were perfect, season 7 a little shaky and season 8 was abysmal. The reason why it got hate was due to the writers just abandoning everything they built for the last decade and favouring some questionable writing. That was enough to sour the taste of the whole franchise for many including myself. However, I agree. It shouldn't lead to constant bullying of the writers and everything that came with it.

People can and should voice their opinion, but trolls are trolls and trolls will troll.

@gollumb82 @PenguinLtd biggest difference was that Mass Effect Legendary wasn't remastered for PS4 and then remade one gen later like TLOU. I'm sure if it was then you'd see some sparks, but maybe not, because like you said it was essentially £20 per game.

I think if we saw a £50 price then it wouldn't be so bad. £35 is a little low considering the efforts don't you think?

@gollumb82 at the risk of being labelled a ‘hater’, the Mass Effect Trilogy contained three massive games and all the DLC. Hundreds of hours of content (compared to 15 or so hours for TLoU Remake). I think I picked up the ME Trillogy for about £45 at release too. That’s why there wasn’t as much backlash, because the value was clearly there.

I am actually looking forward to playing TLoU Remake but it should never have been a £70 game. I’m sure if ND (one of Sony’s most prized devs) objected to charging fans £70, Sony would have listened. But they clearly didn’t.

@theMEGAniggle
My complaint isn't the criticism, it was the fact people were whining for YEARS and took it WAY too personally. They were just movies and shows. There's no shortage of other things you can focus on, stop dwelling on it for so long.

@theMEGAniggle @PenguinLtd
Fair points guys. I guess Sony would say that the pricing is different because of inflation, higher costs of work/living etc. Plus, The Last of Us is a staple franchise for PS. Thanks for the civil discussion and valid points. Rare these days.

@BritneyfR_ee
Nah. I've read too many of your posts to know better than label you a hater 😉 I guess it comes down to Sony and other publishers banking on people splurging on their favourite franchises without batting an eye. In my case that's Mass Effect, The Last of Us and Uncharted (used to be MGS and Gran Turismo too). Whenever any of the above are announced, I buy them. Simple as that. Price is not a factor, but I realise neutrals will look at me and label me a fool 🤷‍♂️

@gollumb82 @naruball You're both right. But when you start your sentence with "I almost wrote a comment directed at the haters" it looks like you were trying to tease some people.

Maybe I've read too much into it, but that's why I replied.

Also I think "hater" is an umbrella term that is rarely useful and it's continuously used as a means to avoid criticism and to create two opposite groups instead of fomenting rational discussion.

@PegasusActual93 no no no, I'm agreeing with you. They ARE just games, movies and shows. I was just explaining why those media you listed were hated on.

These commenters/trolls have a whole life that they can focus on, but they choose to make their life bashing media made by someone far more skilled than them at what they're doing.

My view is voice your concern and stop dwelling on it for so long, move on.

@BritneyfR_ee Nah, Naughty Dog has zero say on price point. Don't get me wrong, I agree that launching this at £70 is a terrible decision, but this lies 100% on the publishing side of Sony, not the developers.

@PenguinLtd I might have a logical explanation. I'm now realising that at launch, for £50 you get Miles Morales. For £70 you also got the Spider-Man Remaster.

Maybe Sony are seeing it as £50 for TLOU. £70 for TLOU + Left Behind DLC.

@Pat_trick
It's all good. Maybe frustration with those critics got the better of me. Didn't want to start an argument. It is, however, nice to see many commenters actually being very measured and rational in their responses.

theres alot of hate posts because there is 15billion articles on trying to say how nice it is. which noone disagrees with. the 70quid complaints are valid. esp when the ps4 version is on plus. oh and the new version is missing factions.

like buying a car and its missing the seats

oh and imo i think its 70 because its going to be a new ps5 bundle

Love love the last of us but really don't need this one..glad it looks great and love the improvements but I can wait until it's on PS extra

I thought TLOU was an amazing game on ps3. I won't pick it up again though, but I would play it if it comes to extra.

I got the digital PS5 (had no choice.) I've played the remaster on the PS4 way back. If this gets to 20 to 30 bucks one day I'll download it.

I'm curious. Do the people who are complaining about the price of this remaster also go into their local bakeries and complain about the price of a loaf of bread? To me the logic is the same. This loaf of bread contains the same ingredients in the same amounts made by the same people using the same expertise as the loaf I bought yesterday and the day before and the day before and the day before. Would they demand the bread be sold to them at a cheaper price because they were a regular? Would they complain that the cost of a loaf of bread has increased by 15% because the cost of flour, salt and yeast (not to mention associated transportation costs) increased constantly over the years but the bakery waited until they could wait no longer to raise the price? Would they make an argument that the population of their city increased over time so more people must be consuming more bread and this should cancel out the need to raise the price and the bakery is only doing it out of greed and it's no way reflective of the increased amount of labor (which now commands higher wages as they also have to contend with inflation) to meet the increased demand and increased expectations of quality which comes with increased competition due to the increase in consumers? Would they launch public attacks on the owners of the bakery and demand an apology because the owners of the bakery had the temerity to adjust the recipe or to promote gluten-free alternatives? I don't think any level-headed consumers would do such things but it goes without saying that many people who identify as gamers are not level-headed and probably have a great deal of difficulty navigating the real world.

If you think my logic sounds ridiculous, I'd suggest looking in the mirror.

@hi_drnick
your analogy just doesnt work fyi. and your logic is ridiculous and its still the same in the mirror.

I actually have to walk through a house of mirrors each time I need to visit my local bakery, so these comments hit me pretty hard.

@stvevan why doesn't it work?

@stvevan strong argument right here.

No, u. There you go. An equally good one.

@Pat_trick Definitely not enough for me to pay full price for the 3rd time. Great game but it’s almost entirely story driven, so I can’t see replaying the same story 3x.

Still a definite waste of talent of one of the best studios out there.

It already takes years for new games to release and now those years are delayed further by using some of the best in the industry on what should have been an outsourced project. I don’t care that this started as another studios project that failed, it shouldn’t have gone to Naughty Dog. You’ll probably want to respond that it was a good training project for the PS5. The PS5 is very similar to the PS4. Please don’t buy into that these people needed training. Then you hear it was a good project in between projects. If that’s the truth, Naughty Dog leadership needs to be fired.

@hi_drnick
because i need food. and if you think people dont complain about food, petrol or any product you are wrong. tho if my bakery made 2 loaves i buy one, 6mth later they sell me the 2nd, but it has a new package and price rise. id complain.

ill use my analogy. you buy a car, a new one comes out that has shinier paint. but its missing the seats (factions missing) but they are charging you full retail. you wouldnt be happy and you would complain. especially when you feel you are being exploited.

@jrt87 yeah, absolutely, those are valid complaints personal to you... Not the sort of mindlessness we saw in the loudest voices

@stvevan you would complain once. Not every time you visit the store. Not curse at them. Call them names. High five others who call them names. Over and over again. As for the loaf of bread, you don't need that. You can eat something else. Or you can buy it from somewhere else. Just like video games.

There you go. Your entire counterargument falls apart.

Will there be a tlou part 2 remake, made in tlou3 engine, towards the end of the ps5 era or a launch ps6 title? Asking for a friend.

@stvevan thanks for proving my point, buddy.

@naruball but i can only buy tlou from ND/Sony.

the shop would only announce it once. not have several articles saying the same thing.

so there goes your trying to be clever. anyway some will believe its worth 70 to them. its their money and entitled to buy what they wish.

What a ridiculous analogy. Food is constantly needed to survive and once you eat it it's gone.

Let's just ignore the fact that one is sustenance and the other is entertainment, an extreme case of apples to oranges:

If I play the Last of Us Remaster it doesn't vanish after I complete it. The disk and/or file doesn't disintegrate right after completion.I can go ahead and play it again. Your loaf of bread isn't coming back.

If the bakery made you vomit your bread, reformed it into a loaf, baked it, and sprinkled some new sesame seeds on top and charged you more than they did the first loaf you bought and vomited, then it would MAYBE make sense as an analogy.

I'll probably buy this when they bundle it with the LOU Part 2 PS5 super-bundle, for just $150. It might be two years away, but c'mon, you all know that's coming. Though honestly, I'll wait for that bundle to hit $35 or PS Plus - by 2025 at the latest, I'd wager.

The improvements look pretty solid, mostly - though I still think I prefer some of the original player models over some of the changes, just aesthetically. But it's a game I've played twice already, and I'm not quite ready to dive in again - not for $70. Sure, it looks prettier, but I'm constantly told it's about the gameplay and not the pixel count, right? So...I've enjoyed this gameplay twice already, I need some more distance before I dive in again, though I expect to enjoy it when I do.

@Shepherd_Tallon I was in the same boat as you. Got it early and played around 2 hours. It is SO good man, you've got a treat to look forward to.

"complain about the price of a loaf of bread?"

Some of y'all never had Nans, and it shows.

@hi_drnick
1. Yes, sometimes I complain about the price of a loaf of bread - have you seen the prices these days? Inflation is real, and discretionary spending - like entertainment - is what typically gets shut out. As much as I love video games, I'd rather eat. So the rising costs of bread make me MORE sensitive to the rising costs of video games, not LESS sensitive to it.

2. Your analogy is awful, as so many have pointed out. If every loaf of bread required coming up with a new, unique recipe which contributed to the price, then when someone used the same old recipe for a new loaf of bread (thus eliminating huge costs of research, writing, art direction...er, pan-crafting) then yes - I'd expect that loaf to be priced lower, since it's using the same old recipe. In fact, that's reflected in real life - the bread churned out by a factory bakery is typically much less expensive than the "artisan" bread hand-crafted by your local baker.

@gollumb82 except you got 3 games with a mass of dlc with mass effect.

@hi_drnick this comment was as long as 25 baguettes ,but not as tasty.

This has turned in to a thread about repackaging old loaves of bread with some new toppings at higher prices and not complaining about that. I was following for a while, but things got a little stale.

@nestalgia ha. i like it

Looking forward to bashing some hypocrites down the line. You are setting your own rules. hahaha

@hi_drnick do you expect anyone to read that 🤦

@Grimwood Did you read anywhere in my comment me saying that I was going to buy it?

This gen is all about puddles 😂

@NEStalgia It has just turned into a thread of half- baked analogies. Everyone kneads to stop loafing around and going against the grain.

Yeah, not spending a full $70 for this 8 (or 9) year old game, the ps4 release is good enough with high res and 60 fps. Why make new games where you can remaster the old game and sells it at the same price, so lazy.

@Pat_trick No he really means the haters and i cant agree more. 🤪

@tseliot The PS4 remaster was not full price. 🤪

@Flaming_Kaiser Thanks for the reply, it was very constructive. I also like the emoji at the end, it gives even more legitimacy to your opinion.

I know it looks better than the original, which is preciselly why I think it looks worse, realism doesnt automatically ==prettier and I think this is a pretty clear case of this happening, maybe I'm biased, maybe i'm a "hater" (which I dont think I am, I love the original and part 2) but I dont think this is worth my money, there was never anything missing in the original experience, let alone in the ps4 remaster.

To everyone else who thinks this is worth it, I do hope you enjoy your experience, The Last of Us is something trully special and that will never change

My goodness, the "lovers" in this thread (I mean, I can't think of a better term for the opposite of "haters", can you?) really seem to be out in force and feeling particularly self righteous today

I get it - you're not a hater. Just move on with your lives instead of fixating on the haters already

I’ll take a remake from Naughty Dog every year over the trash being put out by Embracer Group.