Takes, both good and bad, are aired on Twitter as a matter of course, and the realm of video games is no exception. The good ones are often elevated, and the bad ones are usually mocked or simply ignored. Some are so spectacular, however, that they can unite an entire industry, resulting in a teachable moment we can all learn something from.
In the wake of the spectacular leak of 90ish mid-development clips of the hotly anticipated Grand Theft Auto 6 (a situation which has potentially drawn the eye of the FBI), one take towered above the rest.
Its author (whose Tweets are now protected) got the ball rolling after imperiously declaring, "If you knew how game development goes, you'd know that visuals are one of the first things done." This sentiment struck a chord, one that was quickly set upon and distilled into a simpler, but more succinct form.
Naturally, this take drew the eye of professional video game developers who disagreed, to put things mildly. Devs began to share comparisons of their games, between the earliest iterations and concepts and the finished product, and we have highlighted several of these below. Fans and critics joined in, too, in a moment of healing and celebration not often seen in the normally secretive video game industry:
Screenshots of iconic games paint a similar picture, showing just how far games come from inception to full release. We often take for granted that development cycle, and the many, many iterations a concept goes through before achieving its final form.
Others were more emphatic and direct in their response:
What do you think of this whole situation? Is this top-tier trolling, or something that people genuinely believe? Warm up those takes in the comments section below.
[source resetera.com, via kotaku.com.au]
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Twitter should not be taken as a means to gauge anything. Its a cesspit filled with people that have nothing better to do with their lives than be on Twitter all the time. Everything skews to the negative.
Glad to see the Devs banding together.
You love to see it π
Hopefully the original tweet wasn't being sarcastic though π
LOVE THIS! Anyone who has worked as a creative on any large scale project knows that it only all starts coming together towards the end. Before then is almost always looks like it is: A Work in Progress!
Good on devs to close ranks here and hopefully also educate many on the process at the same time. It's a long, slow, iterative one with many failures on the way, hopefully, to success.
Glad to see the community band together against the uninformed masses and trolls. More unity please.
Thereβs no good meme on Twitter. They are all cringe by default.
Unfortunately thatβs how some people get their info without having to make an effort trying to use their brain.
Lmao they should add that thunderjaw to Horizon, I'd 100% reinstall it just to see that. π
What a load of w******. Some bloke says something they dont agree with and they are rude about it, in Cliff's case insulting.
I usually feel sorry for devs when it's fanbase turns on them for perceived problems, and the devs ask for tolerance and understanding, and here he is acting just as sarcastic, self-righteous and in some cases totally disparaging. Hypocrite. He could just made his point in a kinder fashion.
Moral of the story - don't upset the man babies!
I genuinely can't believe some people actually think that way, you would think even someone who's knows next to nothing about game design would use common sense to determine they focus on testing the game itself before working much if at all on graphics.
@riceNpea what a load ofβ¦ water? Idk a cuss word that starts with βWβ.. why tf are you so worked up about something that doesnβt involve you directly.. I praise all these devs defending R* and so does everyone else.. besides trolls like you.. get over urself
@riceNpea That Twitter user got exactly what he deserved for talking out of his ass about a matter he knows nothing about. There's no "agreeing" or "disagreeing" with unbridled ignorance, what the guy claimed was simply false.
And the immense majority of dev responses highlighted on this article are not even "rude" in the slightest, they're just straight up showing the reality of their respective games' early builds. How thin is your skin, exactly?
@WolfyTn 'besides trolls like you'
That seems a bit uncalled for, i.e. Labelling him as a 'Troll'. You could have just disagreed with him, without the personal attack.
@Gaia093 I was talking about Cliff. I thought I'd made that clear. Sorry if I hadn't π
Edit: reading it back I can see what a mess I made of my point!!! ππ
@WolfyTn I'm not a troll. I said something because this is a comment section and it seemed to me a hypocrisy that someone said something on Twitter and rather than critics it respectfully Cliffy calls him names. You've got yourself worked up over something I said that doesn't affect you directly too. There's an irony in that. But it's your right, where here to express views and I'm not going to take anything you say personally, even though you chose to name call to do it.
I accept that maybe I am wasting my time and didn't make myself clear.
A bad Twitter take? I never thought I'd see the day! Truly shocking!
@Hengist thank you for that
The sad part is how many people saw that tweet and thought to themselves that he must be right because it gained attraction.
@Shepherd_Tallon the original tweet had a follow up claiming they majored in game design and didn't seem sarcastic but then again Poe's law is a thing
Aww, maybe they just got all confused as visuals technically can come first. But in that case they are called "concept art"
The making of HZD is a nice video by the way, if anyone wants to see more polygon dinobots in a Zelda like world π
@Voltan I saw a screenshot of the original tweet in the end.
Bloody hell.
What's that old saying? Better to keep your mouth shut and appear the fool rather than opening it and proving it? π€
If you say things that are unanimously inaccurate then expect at least one person to correct you
Considering the amount of abuse they get, I don't have much issue with Devs calling out what is a strange take on development..
Can't say I'm surprised mind, Twitter and horrendous takes, go hand in hand like Tories and bad policies. π€£
people get angry over nothing these days.
I'm also of the opinion that Social media should just be switched off.
surprise people getting shi*ty on and over twitter.
so glad i have 0 'social' media. and only see the odd bit in news
I do love when people get together like this! It's also interesting to see just how bad everything looks at the start
This is why we can't get to see more of the development process for games! Glad some of theses dafties are getting roasted online by folk who actually know what it takes to deliver a video game.
@Jey887 Have my upvote!
(1) I think Twitter comments from random people should generally be ignored (2) I think itβs awesome for game devs to educate gamers on their process and support each other.
@riceNpea I think I kinda agree with you a little actually. This could be some 12 year old trying to seem smart and then an entire industry piles on him/her (though let's be honest this was almost definitely a guy). Seems a bit overkill. Especially with suicide rates what they are these days and how that has a lot to do with social media and how we treat each other.
Anyway, just seems weird to latch onto what was surely some nobody's comment. It's whatever I guess though. I can't say I'm always the nicest person online but I do try to avoid insulting people or piling on when someone has clearly been proven wrong.
@Voltan oh wow, so they even doubled down? Weird.
@zupertramp that was the giar of what I was clumsily trying to say, thanks.
@riceNpea When you see or hear things like this every single day, about the career you pour your heart and soul into from ignorant and arrogant people not just on stupid bird app, but everywhere, I think it's understandable to be a little frustrated.
Especially when people seem understand you better when you're more incendiary. People understand being shamed for being ignorant moreso than being educated in a polite way.
And even still, it's text, and people can still perceive the kinder way as being condescending anyway, so there's really no point.
If it's a kid, then the responsibility falls on the parents for letting them on the stupid bird app. No one under 18 should really be on there.
@Constable_What fwiw I definitely understand their frustration. I guess I just feel uncomfortable with the way we roast each other and engage in pile ons. It just feels like there's a better way we could all communicate, and shut down bad takes especially when it's not even a particularly heinous one - just ignorant.
That said I'd still buy games from these companies.
Edit: and I should also mention I stand in solidarity with them against leakers and hackers. all ire should be directed in that direction imo.
@zupertramp It's just how people have always communicated with each other. At least nowadays you get roasted on Twitter, rather than roasted at the stake.
Progress hey?
I mean if you're on Twitter it can happen to you too. Twitter isn't as bad as a real stake, but it's a stake you willingly tie yourself to lmao.
@Constable_What I guess... I'd just hate to see something dumb I've said get so much attention it becomes a news story. It's one thing to get clowned on by your peer group. It's another thing when it's the whole world, or what must feel like the whole world.
Lol, really resisting the urge to go on a Yuval Noah Harari inspired rant about how we were never meant to be able to interact with as many people as we do now.
@zupertramp One has to qualify everything one says on the internet if one is afraid of being dogpiled, and I doubt just from how you write your thoughts anything you said you'd get such negative traction. You tend to be choose your words in a considerate manner, from my observation.
At least on the internet when you say something dumb it will be forgotten pretty soon after someone else says something dumb. There are no shortage of dumb things said on the internet.
@FoxMcMuffin after first making a comment....right?
@FoxMcMuffin hey thanks mate!
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