Always-online connections in games are becoming increasingly common, but rarely do they go down well with fans. We’ve seen enormous backlashes to the likes of Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League, and despite its co-op focus, it looks like PAYDAY 3 may be next in line. Confirmed during a livestream with the game’s community manager Almir Listo, it sounds like you’ll need to be connected to the Internet to do anything in Starbreeze Studios’ latest.
“You’ll be able to play by yourself, but I do believe that you’ll have to have a connection in order to play because it's made in Unreal Engine, it's using cross-progression, crossplay, I do believe you'll need to be online to play,” he explained. A lot of these justifications don’t really make sense to us – Unreal Engine, for example, does not require an Internet connection – but we suppose Listo was scrambling for reasons to justify the decision among an increasingly hostile chat.
Obviously this series is primarily targeted at online play anyway, so in our opinion the decision doesn’t hurt as much as if it was a purely single player experience. However, many on the game’s Reddit page are pointing out that they’ve logged hundreds of hours offline in Payday 2, and don’t want to have to deal with potential server outages, disconnects, and so on. Some have even threatened to cancel their pre-orders!
With the game due out on 24th September, we doubt Starbreeze Studios will backtrack on this decision this late in development, so you’re probably just going to have to determine whether the always-online connection is a deal-breaker for you.
[source youtube.com, via thegamer.com]
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I lost interest in pay day for around 6 years now, so it doesn't bother me as I did not even plan in getting it in the first place.
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Interesting, a big part of why I never have these games a chance is I always thought they were online-only games…
MS buying publishers for GP is like making games always online
He does understand Unreal like every engine doesn't need to be always online?
Payday 2 I actually played loads offline, I never could be bothered with randoms. It’s a shame that this is always online but the games I guess were always that sort of game.
I mean, my broadband router is on 24/7 and my PS5 is always connected to it.
But hey let me moan and complain for the hell of it, right?
@Atreus97 And when the servers are off on their end through no fault of your own, you’ll play the game how?
I never understood why this is a problem, most people have their PS5 connected and broadband always on?
Looks like someone is making same mistake as Blizzard with Diablo 4...
@TripleKing333
What a tragedy. Perhaps I'll go for a walk, or ya know, play something else.
@riceNpea you might have to explain how?
I can play all games i buy offline even if they are in Game Pass, and I don’t even need my Xbox online to play games I download from game pass. I think my primary Xbox only needs to be online for the download and once a month for installed game pass games to be playable.
Always online means the game won’t work at all if your internet goes down for the day or if the servers are overloaded.
@Atreus97 Don’t walk off a cliff. That would be tragic.
So, we traded the ability to play with other people for always online? Is it too late to reverse course?
@Atreus97
In theory sure that should be fine but in practice it hasn’t worked yet. Just look at all of the server issues Diablo 4 had on launch with people losing hundreds of hours of progress due to no fault of their own. Not to mention that not everyone’s Wi-Fi is good and not everyone regularly has Wi-Fi. Online only for single player is pointless overall and does more harm than good.
There's a third game coming? I had no idea lol, I only ever hear about 2 for the last several years.
@SJR
1) Not everyone’s internet connection is stable; 2) servers go down, it’s good to have single player content to play in such situations, which shouldn’t require the online connection;
I'm not expecting Pay Day 3 to do all that well tbh. Especially when the only games that they made after 2 was the terrible and misleading walking dead game and Raid: WW2. Those games were practically a copy paste version of Pay Day 2 so it's difficult to get excited about this and especially with this type of news.
Quote unreleased suicide quad game but what about Diablo 4?
@djlard what d4 is and what this is trying to be, isn't the same. Always online may not be what people think d4 should use, but its far more egregious here.
@Total_Weirdo no. They aren't like that at all. Waiting for game pass....smh. y'all don't love gaming.
I didn't think this was news. I always presumed PayDay was a always online game anyway. Its an online co op game. It never started as a single player game to begin with.
So can't really grumble with it.
@Total_Weirdo I enjoyed payday 2 ,it's more technical in how you plan it takes alot of pre thought and being with some gd friends helps a lot ,the ai was as dumb as a bag of bricks when I last played it
Payday 2 was a great game and I always played it with my friends and randoms as well. So the always on Internet is not bothering me.
September is the heist month!
As long as PS+ or GamePass has online only games it doesn't bother me as much.
@Soulless666 did u have the same prob with AI as I did ? They were useless , I might have well taken a toddler to do the bank job with me
Boo for always on, though I know this game isn’t one really meant to be solo.
I mean, i thought these games were made to be played online. its not something like left 4 dead where you have AI companions. you either play with other people or you have an objectivelly worse experience.
its different from Diablo 4, another always online game but the game was designed to be played solo but you still get server lag.
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