Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic Remake Reportedly Deader than Alderaan

When they hired the city tv GTAV "virtual rape" girl to write on it I already started building the pine coffin.

Sony is losing games by the month it seems. 2024 could be a rough year. I mean not for the casuals that buy the popular games and get PS5 no matter. But for us hardcore fan it isn’t looking so good. Granted we knew this one wasn’t looking to promising to get released but it’s a bummer not knowing if Sony has any exclusives for the full 24 calendar.

@HonestHick Doesn't look rough to me. Granted it's a mix of 1st and 3rd (mainly 3rd) and some are timed or PS5/Pc only but there's plenty for 2024 even if they all don't release.

• Helldivers
• FF7 Rebirth
• TLOU 2 remaster
• Granblue Relink
• Rise of the ronin
• Concord
• Death Stranding
• Foamstars F2P
• Lost soul aside
• Pacific drive
• Stellar Blade
• MLB 24
• Phantom Blade Zero
• Silent Hill 2
  And the rumoured Spiderman 2 and Ragnarok Expansions.

What's Xbox got for 2024?

Embracer is obviously a sinking ship so I'm not surprised. Sony must've just decided it was better to cut their losses.

Even if it was a remaster, they should have gone ahead and finished it. Surely it would've made money.
What shambles... though after watching the video the guy has no sources. It's just his opinion.

@MrMagic Nobody mentioned Xbox. Why can't people just say their part without trying to ***** on everything else?

@Ichiban because things need comparisons to have context, it’s literally how the human brain has worked since the beginning of time.

You did 47 Push-ups? Ok, that number is meaningless without context. How do we put it in context? We ask how many push-ups other people can do.

@Ichiban likely because hick is generally highly critical of Sony, but not so critical of the team in Green. Mr magic is likely making the comparison there.

I'm fine with Sony cutting their loses on titles that aren't half baked, it's better than releasing a game should have been cancelled and is subsequently reviewed to oblivion.

Lol under the current climate there will be writers . Forcing a message on to it than making a great game. Nope I'm happy with the original the modders make some interesting mods for these 2 games. I'd rather stay with the originals thanks

@MrMagic currently
Stalker 2
ARA: History Untold
Hellblade 2
Avowed
Towerborne
Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024
Call of Duty 2024
Ark 2
33 Immortals

WoW is getting expansion and so is Diablo 4.

But XGS boss hinted at 4 big first-party games (1 per quarter) and since only big first-party games (not counting COD) are Hellblade 2 and Avowed, it seems like there will be more in second half of 2024. My hunch is Indiana Jones since according to the Bethesda FTC leak it was supposed to be out in 2022. So...reveal at TGA and release in october-november 2024?

I just noticed. The image you are using up top is from Star wars the old republic which is an ongoing game. Not Knights of the old republic.
Dunno if it was an oversight or purposeful.

@Ichiban To be fair, HonestHick specifically mentioned a lack of exclusives, which automatically involves other platforms. Otherwise they'd just be talking about a lack of games. And looking at the release schedule for January 2024 alone, a lack of games doesn't appear to be an immediate concern.

Announced a long time ago with a release date far, far away...

@MrMagic thats a decent amount of 3rd you listed. I really want Last of us 2 tho. I have no faith the Silent hill game will be done right but if it is i will get it. I didn’t mention Xbox so i am not going to list their 2024 schedule but it’s stacked and you should know that when you come to Pure Xbox. I never meant Sony has no games in 2024, i just meant they don’t seem to have a path of exclusives lined up. They have more news lately about canceled or delayed games than release dates was my point. I am a little concerned, looks like Jim Bob got fired for a reason, and it wasn’t just not blocking the ABK deal.

@Shepherd_Tallon I am shocked i have so many people disagreeing with what i said, maybe i didn’t word it right, cause all i see on here is people concerned about nothing from Sony 1st party lined up for 2024 and all we really for was Spider-man 2 for 2023. There has been more news about cancelled or delayed games than announced 2024 releases from Sony. I am a bit concerned. I really want the Last of Us 2 remastered and outside of that it’s a little dry for me. Let’s hope they have a big showcase planned this year 😊

@Godot25 Yeah so roughly about the same, that's not a bad list at all and hopefully we see something at the game awards that we weren't expecting.

@HonestHick 1st or 3rd it doesn't bother me as long as the games are good but I guess only time will tell.

@ChrisDeku The pushup comparison is one of the worst examples I have ever heard.

Possibly cars, fishing gear, football boots etc. But 47 pushups? Outside of the military I have never heard anyone talk about how many they do outside of a set of excersises which includes other excersises. You don't need competition to perform press ups.

@MrMagic i think we all can agree that all we want is good games. I have no doubt PS will have many excellent games in 2024. But i think it’s fair to say they are having some issues with live service titles and we know little to nothing about their first party games being worked on. Thats concerning cause for PS4 they announced games 2-3 years out. We are 3 years into PS5 and outside of insomniac we still don’t have much of a roadmap.

If this is true, then I am disappointed by the news.
But on the other hand, is Jeff Grubb truly a reliable source?

Games should not be announced until they are mostly done and the marketing campaign is about to start

@themcnoisy I think you’re in the wrong place, lad. You were looking for Push-Up Square? Yeah…

@Godot25 we're getting a new flight sim? 😯

@Godot25 none of those games will probably ever come out. Hellblade surprisingly still in limbo amd the rest meh.

i am not going to list their 2024 schedule but it’s stacked

First party studio output confirmed to be targeting is 2024 is literally Hellblade 2 and Avowed. That’s 2 games, and not big names.

@Torque What?
All of those games are confirmed to be out in 2024. Barring a huge delay of course. Which in case of Ark 2 is possible.

@ChrisDeku i would class hellblade as a big name, the first one won several awards and was a commercial sucess

@Sakai It’s a big name in the way that Returnal is a big name(or maybe Alan Wake is a better example but I’m biased and want to say that Alan Wake is much more beloved!), not in the way that God of War/Spider-man/Stafield is a big name.

Hellblade was made on a budget of $10m and broke even in approximately 3 months according to Ninja Theory. That mans sales for the first 3 months was about $10m net. We’re talking in the low hundreds of thousands. It was also a PS4/PC release and ported to Xbox later, so a good amount of its sales were on PlayStation one would assume. It was a 81/83 on Metacritic for PS4/PC so reasonably well received but not exceptional.

@ChrisDeku well yeah they are both big names, returnal was great

@Sakai Do you also consider Helldivers 2 a big game then? The first game coincidentally has the exact same metacritic score as Hellblade 81(PS4)83(PC) and had a slightly higher peak concurrent user count on steam than Hellblade and probably sold similar number of copies.

@ChrisDeku when discussing smaller sale volume games I would class hellblade and returnal as big names due to the number of awards they won, the industry recognition.

To the best of my knowledge Helldivers did not win any awards at all, so I would say no, but some people may have a different opinion

So Embracer group is now the FTX of publishing houses? Did they have any intention of these big announcements? Or just to buy half of Squ-Enix and shut down most of the studios. Good lord what a catastrophe. Just garage sale the studios to real publishers so folks can keep their jobs.

@ChrisDeku I would consider it with regards of pricing.
Helldivers 2 is 39,99€ on Steam
Hellblade 2 does not have a pricetag yet but there is no doubt it will be in 59,99€ - 69,99€ range.

I would not look at first Hellblade game and pass a judgement. Because while first game was budget title (and was sold for 30 bucks) made by 20 people, Ninja Theory currently has more then 140 employees. So I really doubt it's remotely comparable.

@Xbox_Dashboard It's only going to get worse, literally nothing is going to be left by the end. That's what happens when you build your entire future on a 2 billion dollar financing deal that isn't finalized yet.

The recklessness with which this company has been run is staggering. It's cost close to a 1000 people (and counting) their job, destroyed years worth of intellectual work and potentially ruined entire studios and their futures.

So much has been lost to the gaming industry because of Embracer Group's acquisition spree. It's depressing.

@HonestHick Sony obviously are having a few problems with some of their live service games but only a crazy person would think they didn't anticipate this could happen. That's obviously one of the reasons they put so many into development in the first place, also a while back Sony also said they would start announcing games closer to launch to avoid crunch and I'm glad because I definitely don't want another elder scrolls situation.

Now though everyone wants to see what Sony have up their sleeve and their competition have already shown their hand so it's going to be really interesting if they announce a showcase next year and Xbox have practically nothing new to show.

@Sakai @Godot25 I would say the first Hellblade wasn't a very big game. It did okay and earned some recognition but I don't think it made enough of an impact to make barely anyone want to buy an Xbox because of it.

Of course all that could change depending on the quality of the sequel but unfortunately I just don't see that happening at the moment. It's going have to be something really special to draw people in but I don't think it's even been marketed very well so far.

@ChrisDeku Can I get some directions to Push-Up Square? I think I've put on a little weight lately. 🤣👍

@Nem Aspyr already remastered the original in a pretty decent port, this was meant to be a ground-up remake.

@MrMagic The ability for a game to sell consoles is completely separate to it being a big name or not. As I already mentioned, I regard both Returnal and Hellblade as big names due to their industry recognition, not because of their ability to sell consoles.

Man they ***** up big time with this one smh 🤦

@somnambulance yeah 2023 was a outstanding year and i snagged FF16 and a few others on the Black Friday sale. Plus i have GP and a Switch so if 2024 is light, i should have plenty to play. But yes i love a good roadmap to be excited for and at the moment Sony is very light on that and maybe it’s cause they truly aren’t sure if some of their live service games will actually launch or not. But man would i love to know if the Santa Monica studio rumor of a Sci-fi game is real or not. That would be so cool. 😊

@Shepherd_Tallon yeah i get it, i just use my PS5 for exclusives only so that roadmap is important to me. But i still have decent amount to play there, just wish i knew a little more to be excited about. It isn’t going to hurt their business any or anything like that. 😊

@themightyant i agree, honesty will do that. Yeah i own all 3 consoles and of course have plenty to play. I am a Diablo junkie and have almost 600 hours into it. So that game alone will carry me. But i use my Xbox as my main platform and my PS5 and Switch for exclusives. So i enjoy having a roadmap for all 3 but even slightly more for Sony and Nintendo as i play less there but i enjoy their games so much. I am not the biggest marvel fan so Spider-man and Wolverine do very little if anything for me. But i am just waiting to know if the Santa Monica studio rumor of them working on a Sci fi title is real or not, cause i think that would be outstanding.

@Sakai I would say the big games attract people to the system but Hellblade just hasn't got that sort of pull. At least not yet anyway.

@MrMagic i am for sure wanting to see more of what PS has cooking. As for Xbox they have so many studios and IP’s now that i am not to worried about their 2024-2025 roadmap. They just need to get them right and if they hit a AAA game every 3 months they should have something worth my time to check out. The new Doom game should be closer to ready than not and of course Indiana Jones and Fallout look to be close if the leak was close to being accurate. Plus there is a lot of talk about Blizzards new survival game being far along into development, so we might get a look at that sooner than later also. For Sony i really just want to know if the Santa Monica rumor of a Sci fi game is real or not. I think that would be so cool.

@MrMagic i might not share your opinion completely, but I respect it.

@HonestHick I dunno man, I'm on xbox and all of their games are built as a 'platform' to sell additional crap. It doesn't work for me and (this is a big assumption) doesn't work for most of the community here.

I've been eagerly awaiting each release and they are nerfed and built for addons aka Minecraft. Age of empires 2 remastered as an example, had dlc. It just boggles my mind. I would much rather they concentrated on big fulfilling games than soulless service games but here we are.

@themcnoisy i honestly hear what you are saying and don’t entirely disagree but games as a service are here and they are likely not going away for any platform outside of Nintendo. Sony spent 3 billion dollars to get Bungie in house to help them understand that development. Most on here won’t admit this but Sony is nervous about the ABK deal. That deal alone gave MS some of the best service games in the industry, so they need to chase that down a little, the ceiling of what a single player game can make is just not enough to justify at times and Sony is for sure rethinking that currently. Look at me for example i have close to 600 hours into Diablo 4 and haven’t bought one thing on its store for the game. So lot’s of live service games can be enjoyed without having to be nickel and dime. I think Sony will do a good job at finding that balance. 😊

This whole Embracer debacle feels like it could have been avoided by having some sort of industry overseer. How are they allowed to just keep buying up companies with no long term plan?

@Godot25 Doubt it. They are never confirmed.

Was looking forward to this. It's a damn shame.

@Torque

Avowed, Hellblade 2, MFS2024 and Towerborne all had trailers during june's showcase with 2024 "release year"
Jesus. Microsoft Flight Sim even has year in it's name. It's hardly coming out in 2025.

Hellblade 2 was part of marketing push for Xbox so it's clear that they are ramping up for release. Towerborne was playable during Gamescom so it's also clear that game is close to release. ARA: History Untold is already in testing with players.

Stalker 2 is also pretty much given for 2024 since devs moved to Prague from Ukraine. Call of Duty is for sure coming in 2024.
Only question marks are 33 Immortals and Ark 2.

And as I said, XGS boss hinted for more AAA games for second half of 2024.

So at least try to get your fact straight instead of playing dumb.

@Godot25 Yes when they actually release, then come back to me. Until then. And no they didn't, Hellblade 2 still just promotes itself with just some mediocre cinematic. Still no trailer.

This is an utter embarrassment. KOTOR is one of the best IP's in gaming and the fact the original trilogy was never completed is a bad joke.

Sony needs to take this in hand and if needs be offer to co-produce a remake. The fact we keep getting remasters and remakes of games nobody wants while certain jewels of the industry are constantly overlooked is baffling. KOTOR, Dino Crisis and Onimusha to name but a few (there are many, many more). I just don't understand it.

The industry needs to stop shilling out on this repetitive and creatively devoid dross (Call of duty, assassin's creed and the endless string of GTA and dark souls rip offs) and we need to stop falling for it year after year.

@NomNom doesn’t seem so tbh, I’d say it’s even. Even so, that guy did seem to take it personal.

@ThorsHammer It really wasn't a remaster, it was a port. I don't think they changed anything.

@ChrisDeku Avowed is not big to casuals but it's big to people who enjoyed pillars of eternity considering it's in the same universe

Good. It was going to suck anyway.